Saturn

[Hasani Baron]

 

[belthazorthemighty1]

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[Shan823]

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To:
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@...
Subject: Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To:
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@...
Subject: Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[avemerodak]

Saturn in fact is always bad. In a way or another one. I think we should do the saturn mantra now because he is in libra.
When it will be in scorpio, saturn will be more nasty.
In my case, I do it now for several weeks. One time spirituel mantra, one time material mantra. Better to prevent the bad effects of this filthy planet.
What do you think ?
Then, even if you have saturn in 1er house, you can bind this damn planet doing mantras HP Pythia gave to us.
Don't worry.
Hail Satan !

--- In , "Shannon Outlaw" <soutlaw92@... wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To:
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@...
Subject: Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[Sven]

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In , Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To:
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@...
Subject: Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[siguarddraconis]

Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter, so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In , "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@... wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In , Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@ wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To:
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[Shan823]

siguard, any house that saturn touches will cause it misfortune and negativity in some way as saturn is generally a bad planet. Malefic. Saturn in the second is not good for money and finances so if i were you i would work on the saturn, jupiter and sun square. And also work on money spells. 

From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To:
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 4:03:49 PM
Subject: Re: Saturn

  Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter, so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In , "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@... wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In , Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@ wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To:
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[avemerodak]

Siguard, I would like to add something here.
I noticed in my own experience but also during all my practice that the planets are not working anymore in the sens we except it when we reach a true spiritual level.
That is very important to keep in mind, and I would be very grateful if HP Pythia agree to give her opinion and advices here.
I read and have read a lot all JOS and I have all the booklets. I remember very well what HP Pythia said about Saturne in a very bad aspect with the ruler of her lunar chart. Nothing bad happened. Because she was in a sens "higher" than saturn, I don't know how to explain it better. Then Saturn can't touch her.
But, dont worry Siguard, really and all of you, brothers and sisters, this filthy planet will not be strong anymore, especially if you work the mantra HP Pythia gave which works amazingly (I do it for a while now) and empower your aura and chakra.
WORK WITH THE FIRE.
This filth of saturn is another way to activate the bad seeds of karma in us.
Exactly like in the cerebellum we have like an "enemy program". I experimented it, unfortunately.
Well, Saturn can be overcome.
And by the way, I knew personally 2 people who have saturne in the 2th house and they have a lot of properties, houses, and so on they rent. (they believe in nothing)
Then, obviously, saturn in 2 is :
1 - what Shannon said, she is absolutely right ;
2 - there is a possibility of being "landlord". But of course, all depends too of the other aspects of your chart.
HP Pythia do you agree or not ?
Hail Satan !

--- In , Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:

siguard, any house that saturn touches will cause it misfortune and negativity
in some way as saturn is generally a bad planet. Malefic. Saturn in the second
is not good for money and finances so if i were you i would work on the saturn,
jupiter and sun square. And also work on money spells. 




________________________________
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To:
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 4:03:49 PM
Subject: Re: Saturn

 
Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter,
so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In , "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In , Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@
wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good
unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To:
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[High Priestess Pythia]

This is true, in that consistent meditation acts as a strong buffer to bad planetary energies. As for the Saturn, when it is in the second house, ironically, this does not necessarily mean life long poverty. Never give one who has a 2nd house Saturn any cheap trinkets or items that have little or no value as a gift, as these people take offense at such things. They place much importance on the value of the gift, not the thought, as a rule [there is always the exception, though].

There are millionaires who have a 2nd house Saturn. Most have to work hard though and money is not handed to them in life.

Those with Capricorn rising and Saturn as their chart ruler- the saturn here functions a bit differently. At worst, these people can be severely pessimistic at times, but the saturn transits through each of the houses fares better than for the rest of us. For example, the capricorn rising person who has a saturn transit to the 7th house of marriage and partnerships will more than often get married or in a permanent relationship. Those with other ascending signs usually experience break-ups and other problems.


High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org

--- In , "avemerodak" <avemerodak@... wrote:

Siguard, I would like to add something here.
I noticed in my own experience but also during all my practice that the planets are not working anymore in the sens we except it when we reach a true spiritual level.
That is very important to keep in mind, and I would be very grateful if HP Pythia agree to give her opinion and advices here.
I read and have read a lot all JOS and I have all the booklets. I remember very well what HP Pythia said about Saturne in a very bad aspect with the ruler of her lunar chart. Nothing bad happened. Because she was in a sens "higher" than saturn, I don't know how to explain it better. Then Saturn can't touch her.
But, dont worry Siguard, really and all of you, brothers and sisters, this filthy planet will not be strong anymore, especially if you work the mantra HP Pythia gave which works amazingly (I do it for a while now) and empower your aura and chakra.
WORK WITH THE FIRE.
This filth of saturn is another way to activate the bad seeds of karma in us.
Exactly like in the cerebellum we have like an "enemy program". I experimented it, unfortunately.
Well, Saturn can be overcome.
And by the way, I knew personally 2 people who have saturne in the 2th house and they have a lot of properties, houses, and so on they rent. (they believe in nothing)
Then, obviously, saturn in 2 is :
1 - what Shannon said, she is absolutely right ;
2 - there is a possibility of being "landlord". But of course, all depends too of the other aspects of your chart.
HP Pythia do you agree or not ?
Hail Satan !

--- In , Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:

siguard, any house that saturn touches will cause it misfortune and negativity
in some way as saturn is generally a bad planet. Malefic. Saturn in the second
is not good for money and finances so if i were you i would work on the saturn,
jupiter and sun square. And also work on money spells.Â




________________________________
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@
To:
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 4:03:49 PM
Subject: Re: Saturn

Â
Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter,
so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In , "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In , Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@
wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good
unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To:
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[avemerodak]

Thanks a lot HP Pythia and again, I learned things ! Thanks !!!!
Hail Satan !

--- In , High Priestess Pythia <... wrote:


This is true, in that consistent meditation acts as a strong buffer to bad planetary energies. As for the Saturn, when it is in the second house, ironically, this does not necessarily mean life long poverty. Never give one who has a 2nd house Saturn any cheap trinkets or items that have little or no value as a gift, as these people take offense at such things. They place much importance on the value of the gift, not the thought, as a rule [there is always the exception, though].

There are millionaires who have a 2nd house Saturn. Most have to work hard though and money is not handed to them in life.

Those with Capricorn rising and Saturn as their chart ruler- the saturn here functions a bit differently. At worst, these people can be severely pessimistic at times, but the saturn transits through each of the houses fares better than for the rest of us. For example, the capricorn rising person who has a saturn transit to the 7th house of marriage and partnerships will more than often get married or in a permanent relationship. Those with other ascending signs usually experience break-ups and other problems.


High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org


--- In , "avemerodak" <avemerodak@ wrote:

Siguard, I would like to add something here.
I noticed in my own experience but also during all my practice that the planets are not working anymore in the sens we except it when we reach a true spiritual level.
That is very important to keep in mind, and I would be very grateful if HP Pythia agree to give her opinion and advices here.
I read and have read a lot all JOS and I have all the booklets. I remember very well what HP Pythia said about Saturne in a very bad aspect with the ruler of her lunar chart. Nothing bad happened. Because she was in a sens "higher" than saturn, I don't know how to explain it better. Then Saturn can't touch her.
But, dont worry Siguard, really and all of you, brothers and sisters, this filthy planet will not be strong anymore, especially if you work the mantra HP Pythia gave which works amazingly (I do it for a while now) and empower your aura and chakra.
WORK WITH THE FIRE.
This filth of saturn is another way to activate the bad seeds of karma in us.
Exactly like in the cerebellum we have like an "enemy program". I experimented it, unfortunately.
Well, Saturn can be overcome.
And by the way, I knew personally 2 people who have saturne in the 2th house and they have a lot of properties, houses, and so on they rent. (they believe in nothing)
Then, obviously, saturn in 2 is :
1 - what Shannon said, she is absolutely right ;
2 - there is a possibility of being "landlord". But of course, all depends too of the other aspects of your chart.
HP Pythia do you agree or not ?
Hail Satan !

--- In , Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:

siguard, any house that saturn touches will cause it misfortune and negativity
in some way as saturn is generally a bad planet. Malefic. Saturn in the second
is not good for money and finances so if i were you i would work on the saturn,
jupiter and sun square. And also work on money spells.Â




________________________________
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@
To:
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 4:03:49 PM
Subject: Re: Saturn

Â
Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter,
so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In , "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In , Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@
wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good
unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To:
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[siguarddraconis]

To summarise my inner state - I'm overjoyed =D Not because I have 2nd Saturn but because of what you said - Shannon, Avemerodak and High Priestess Pythia

And High Priestess, I also read, from an outside source that 2nd Saturn MAY contribute to wealth - but obviously via hard work. The Qabalistic Saturn square isn't that long (the shortest I guess), so I can perform the magic many times.

Once again, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK!!!

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In , High Priestess Pythia <... wrote:


This is true, in that consistent meditation acts as a strong buffer to bad planetary energies. As for the Saturn, when it is in the second house, ironically, this does not necessarily mean life long poverty. Never give one who has a 2nd house Saturn any cheap trinkets or items that have little or no value as a gift, as these people take offense at such things. They place much importance on the value of the gift, not the thought, as a rule [there is always the exception, though].

There are millionaires who have a 2nd house Saturn. Most have to work hard though and money is not handed to them in life.

Those with Capricorn rising and Saturn as their chart ruler- the saturn here functions a bit differently. At worst, these people can be severely pessimistic at times, but the saturn transits through each of the houses fares better than for the rest of us. For example, the capricorn rising person who has a saturn transit to the 7th house of marriage and partnerships will more than often get married or in a permanent relationship. Those with other ascending signs usually experience break-ups and other problems.


High Priestess Pythia
http://www.templeofzeus.org


--- In , "avemerodak" <avemerodak@ wrote:

Siguard, I would like to add something here.
I noticed in my own experience but also during all my practice that the planets are not working anymore in the sens we except it when we reach a true spiritual level.
That is very important to keep in mind, and I would be very grateful if HP Pythia agree to give her opinion and advices here.
I read and have read a lot all JOS and I have all the booklets. I remember very well what HP Pythia said about Saturne in a very bad aspect with the ruler of her lunar chart. Nothing bad happened. Because she was in a sens "higher" than saturn, I don't know how to explain it better. Then Saturn can't touch her.
But, dont worry Siguard, really and all of you, brothers and sisters, this filthy planet will not be strong anymore, especially if you work the mantra HP Pythia gave which works amazingly (I do it for a while now) and empower your aura and chakra.
WORK WITH THE FIRE.
This filth of saturn is another way to activate the bad seeds of karma in us.
Exactly like in the cerebellum we have like an "enemy program". I experimented it, unfortunately.
Well, Saturn can be overcome.
And by the way, I knew personally 2 people who have saturne in the 2th house and they have a lot of properties, houses, and so on they rent. (they believe in nothing)
Then, obviously, saturn in 2 is :
1 - what Shannon said, she is absolutely right ;
2 - there is a possibility of being "landlord". But of course, all depends too of the other aspects of your chart.
HP Pythia do you agree or not ?
Hail Satan !

--- In , Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:

siguard, any house that saturn touches will cause it misfortune and negativity
in some way as saturn is generally a bad planet. Malefic. Saturn in the second
is not good for money and finances so if i were you i would work on the saturn,
jupiter and sun square. And also work on money spells.Â




________________________________
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@
To:
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 4:03:49 PM
Subject: Re: Saturn

Â
Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter,
so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In , "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In , Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@
wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good
unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To:
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?

 

[fadiinflames]

this is amazing , thank you  HP mageson