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Satan Means Truth in Slavic Language

bsod

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Hello guys, I want to bring to the table a topic I have not yet seen mentioned by anyone anywhere.

But before I begin, some background:
This is my first post. I've been reading this website and it's forum for a few months now. I discovered Paganism over 4 years ago, and Luciferianism/Gnosticism 2 years ago, though I did not really study Spiritual Satanism until recently. I am of Eastern Slavic ancestry and I speak Russian. For those past few years I have been gradually learning more about the old ways and native Slavic-Aryan faith. I have also studied linguistics for the past few years which has for me I feel has unlocked a greater capacity to understand hidden meanings and etymologies in languages.

Recently it has occurred to me that Satan means truth in Russian and Slavic language, after having learned it's meanings in Sanskrit language.

The name "Satan" in Russian/Slavic is in fact the word "Istina", the common word for truth, which may at first glance appear to be completely unrelated, and just a bogus linguistic connection - however there is something important to be considered here, that is that the Hebrew language DOES NOT borrow vowels in loan words - only consonants. This is because of Hebrew's Semitic grammar which is based off of a consonantal root system, where only consonants hold lexical information, and vowels encode conjugation, declension, and derivational meanings, when a foreign word is borrowed, the original vowels are dropped and new vowels are inserted in various patterns in accordance to the grammar. Therefore the word iSTiNa is borrowed as S-T-N, the vowels a - a are inserted to derive the name "adversary"

This page will explain Semitic and Hebrew grammar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_root

Contrary to what (((scholars))) claim, Satan, both the name and the being is in no way of Hebrew origin. This is established knowledge on this site so I will not elaborate much more on that fact.

However I do have some other theories, much of which are discussed on Russian speaking web but not elsewhere, I can make separate post if anybody is interested.
1. Hebrew is an artificial language created in the middle ages by Kabbalists as a an occult language, grafted from Arabic mainly and borrowing lots of Greek, Latin, Vedic (Slavic) vocabulary. This ties into Anatoly Fomenko's theories about ancient history being a hoax, that really all occurred in the middle ages (all of human history is only 1000 years old), if this is true (I believe it is from my research), it makes sense that the Yehubor have falsely purported it's age being thousands of years old when really it's only centuries, this also ties into Tartaria/Mudflood theories. The reason I believe it is an artificial language is because the consonantal root grammar seems very improbable to have evolved naturally, even though there are hypotheses how this grammar came about - there are no solid explanations. On Russian speaking web it is theorized that Arabic/Semitic languages descended from an ancient constructed language which was specifically created by our ancestors to avoid decipherment by the enemy AI.
2. Perun is Baal Zebul, aka Pir Bub, Baal. Likewise Dazhbog is Azazel. Many so called Pagans are still under the influence of the Judeo-Christian program, and shun away Spiritual Satanism, usually by delusional of it being Abrahamic or somehow hostile. Remember, Demons are the Gods of the Gentiles.
3. Old Slavic (Slovian) was the original Indo European language which was spoken across the world in ancient times, and PIE is a hoax created by Jesuit Anglo historians. Sanskrit is a creole of Slavic-Dravidian languages. The name Samskrita (as it's actually pronounced) is a Russian word which can be understood as Samoskrytyy, meaning Self-Hidden. Old Slavic was a highly sophisticated and advanced language designed to encode high levels of information in words, it was ciphered by Slavic Sages into a new language to hide information from the enemies, what we know as Sanskrit. What made this language sophisticated and advanced is worthy of it's own post but I can answer if anyone is interested. The reason why I conclude PIE to be a hoax is because of the high lexical (also grammatical) similarity between Sanskrit and Slavic indicate there was a RECENT relationship between the ancient Slavs and Indians, 1000 years ago, not 5000, the similarity of many of the words cannot be explained by the existing theory.

Anyways I am wondering if there any Slavic Pagans here? Has anyone has come to the same conclusion that I have?
 
bsod said:
3. Old Slavic (Slovian) was the original Indo European language which was spoken across the world in ancient times, and PIE is a hoax created by Jesuit Anglo historians. Sanskrit is a creole of Slavic-Dravidian languages. The name Samskrita (as it's actually pronounced) is a Russian word which can be understood as Samoskrytyy, meaning Self-Hidden. Old Slavic was a highly sophisticated and advanced language designed to encode high levels of information in words, it was ciphered by Slavic Sages into a new language to hide information from the enemies, what we know as Sanskrit. What made this language sophisticated and advanced is worthy of it's own post but I can answer if anyone is interested. The reason why I conclude PIE to be a hoax is because of the high lexical (also grammatical) similarity between Sanskrit and Slavic indicate there was a RECENT relationship between the ancient Slavs and Indians, 1000 years ago, not 5000, the similarity of many of the words cannot be explained by the existing theory.
Interesting post.
With PIE do you mean protoindoeuropean?
 
Don't trust Fomenko, look at the evidence. Part of what you said is true but the middle age thing is a lie. I'm slavic and a linguist, you're on to something and you should keep digging. Ask any of the Gods, they will tell you. Also try and find out about the true origin of the runes, our greatest gift. Slovo is what our tribes were named after, not slava. Good luck on your quests.
 
Shemsu said:
Don't trust Fomenko, look at the evidence.
I agree with that, I did not know this author and I just did some research on his books regarding chronology. There is something I don't like at all about the energy of these books.
 
Great post, in my day to day speach when I agree with people i say Istina(truth) instead of Slazem se(I agree) because Lazem means to lie, and "se" - me-myself, so Slazem se - i lie to myself.

Also when pondering about the God Odin i realised that the number 1 in russian is writen Odin. I got no clue why that is, perhaps like one God, or the first God? Have you got perhpas any insights into that?

Cheers!
 
bsod said:

Is this you in the profile picture? Please change this immediately, out of personal safety, especially since you gave other information about yourself.

For safety purposes, keep yourself totally anonymous, as the enemy would love to ruin you if they could.
 
F_For_Flamingo said:
Great post, in my day to day speach when I agree with people i say Istina(truth) instead of Slazem se(I agree) because Lazem means to lie, and "se" - me-myself, so Slazem se - i lie to myself.

Also when pondering about the God Odin i realised that the number 1 in russian is writen Odin. I got no clue why that is, perhaps like one God, or the first God? Have you got perhpas any insights into that?

Cheers!

Never thought about it that way, blew my mind. Thanx for the revelation. I used to know a guy everyone called Istina because he was a pathological liar. Young people and sarcasm, right?
Russian has a lot of interesting things like that. But did you know that in old church slavonic (which was not invented by Cyril and Methodius as history books would have you believe. it was a simplification of an already existing language spoken by slavic tribes and written by pagan priests with an ancient form of runes (chertki i reski) sadly erased from memory by bloody genocides) the letters had numerical value and some other meanings as well? You probably did but here it is anyways for others who didn't.

 
Shemsu said:
F_For_Flamingo said:
Great post, in my day to day speach when I agree with people i say Istina(truth) instead of Slazem se(I agree) because Lazem means to lie, and "se" - me-myself, so Slazem se - i lie to myself.

Also when pondering about the God Odin i realised that the number 1 in russian is writen Odin. I got no clue why that is, perhaps like one God, or the first God? Have you got perhpas any insights into that?

Cheers!

Never thought about it that way, blew my mind. Thanx for the revelation. I used to know a guy everyone called Istina because he was a pathological liar. Young people and sarcasm, right?
Russian has a lot of interesting things like that. But did you know that in old church slavonic (which was not invented by Cyril and Methodius as history books would have you believe. it was a simplification of an already existing language spoken by slavic tribes and written by pagan priests with an ancient form of runes (chertki i reski) sadly erased from memory by bloody genocides) the letters had numerical value and some other meanings as well? You probably did but here it is anyways for others who didn't.


Thank you I did not know this, I will look into it.

Don't worry brother with time everything that was hidden about the Slavic will come to light.

Even some things like saying that the word Slav comes froms Slave, when it comes from Slavni-famous/glorious.

Thanks again for sharing this information!

Cheers!
 
As a man who seeks the cradle of all languages, this sets me back on square one sadly.

I'm now confused on what was originally spoken.
 
Ludwick said:
As a man who seeks the cradle of all languages, this sets me back on square one sadly.

I'm now confused on what was originally spoken.

You don't have to look at it that way. Try to see it as a step forward. Your quest is a noble and worthy one. No matter how you call it, that language did exist, it's just a matter of determining the period in our history that you want to examine. Protoindoeuropean as the linguistic community fancies calling it was a later version containing some elements of the earlier language of the global civilization that went under. Tartarian/Lemurian is probably what you seek. Ask a God that you have a relationship with or Satan himself maybe? Good luck and check out the deeper origin of runes. They definitely weren't made from the latin alphabet but the other way around. Historical records were mostly erased from physical reality but the truth is still here.
 
Shemsu said:
Good luck and check out the deeper origin of runes. They definitely weren't made from the latin alphabet but the other way around. Historical records were mostly erased from physical reality but the truth is still here.
A book that I found very interesting is, "Runes and the Orgins of Writing" by Alain de Benoist.
Although the author is right-wing his research is done in a very academic way, it is not an attempt to glorify Runes at all costs. There is no search for a definitive thesis but a number of question marks are highlighted that suggest that probably the Mediterranean alphabets and the Runes have a common ancestor, so in a genealogical hierarchy they are probably on the same level.
 
Lykos said:
Shemsu said:
Good luck and check out the deeper origin of runes. They definitely weren't made from the latin alphabet but the other way around. Historical records were mostly erased from physical reality but the truth is still here.
A book that I found very interesting is, "Runes and the Orgins of Writing" by Alain de Benoist.
Although the author is right-wing his research is done in a very academic way, it is not an attempt to glorify Runes at all costs. There is no search for a definitive thesis but a number of question marks are highlighted that suggest that probably the Mediterranean alphabets and the Runes have a common ancestor, so in a genealogical hierarchy they are probably on the same level.

Many years ago in a book titled "knjiga o knjizi" I found some intriguing clues about runestones in a country near me. The funny thing was they were a few centuries older than scandinavian counterparts, a bit different and weren't supposed to exist, at least not in southeastern europe. I went to see it and it was right there in a churchyard overgrown with weeds however during the last war here it got removed or destroyed. Based on that and oral tradition that the high priests of our tribes used an ancient form of runes from time immemorial only known to them and used for special occasions and rituals for the Gods I have to disagree on them being on same level as other mediterranean alphabets. Unfortunately they wrote on wood which easily decays so...
 
Shemsu said:
Don't trust Fomenko, look at the evidence. Part of what you said is true but the middle age thing is a lie. I'm slavic and a linguist, you're on to something and you should keep digging. Ask any of the Gods, they will tell you. Also try and find out about the true origin of the runes, our greatest gift. Slovo is what our tribes were named after, not slava. Good luck on your quests.

Why do you not trust him? I've studied his work for a few years now and I am yet to be able to refute any of his claims in spite of how absolutely ludicrous they are. The (((Scaligerian chronology))) (what we are taught in schools) is completely flawed, nonsensical, and inconsistent to say the least, especially when one analyzes historical astronomical data, for example Lunar and Solar eclipses which would have been impossible to occur according to history as we are taught.

All of history that we are taught was exclusively invented and written down by Christian monks, whereas almost all Pagan knowledge was destroyed. The Church has falsified history in order to validate their religion and slander Pre Christian Europeans as some sort of primitive barbaric savages. They claim the Bible to be almost 2000 years old when really it's only 400 years old (and I can prove it).
 
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bsod said:

Is this you in the profile picture? Please change this immediately, out of personal safety, especially since you gave other information about yourself.

For safety purposes, keep yourself totally anonymous, as the enemy would love to ruin you if they could.

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bsod said:
Shemsu said:
Don't trust Fomenko, look at the evidence. Part of what you said is true but the middle age thing is a lie. I'm slavic and a linguist, you're on to something and you should keep digging. Ask any of the Gods, they will tell you. Also try and find out about the true origin of the runes, our greatest gift. Slovo is what our tribes were named after, not slava. Good luck on your quests.

Why do you not trust him? I've studied his work for a few years now and I am yet to be able to refute any of his claims in spite of how absolutely ludicrous they are. The (((Scaligerian chronology))) (what we are taught in schools) is completely flawed, nonsensical, and inconsistent to say the least, especially when one analyzes historical astronomical data, for example Lunar and Solar eclipses which would have been impossible to occur according to history as we are taught.

All of history that we are taught was exclusively invented and written down by Christian monks, whereas almost all Pagan knowledge was destroyed. The Church has falsified history in order to validate their religion and slander Pre Christian Europeans as some sort of primitive barbaric savages. They claim the Bible to be almost 2000 years old when really it's only 400 years old (and I can prove it).

He is not absolutely wrong about everything but he is not ok mentally. While a brilliant mathematical mind can be used to process large amounts of information his psychological issues in combination with wishful thinking bring about what you read. His scientific and statistical methods are flawed. Yes carbon dating is not accurate but not by as much as he claims, yes we have been lied to and history was falsified by the catholic church but his version is not correct either. I like to keep an opened mind so please present your evidence (you said you can prove it). My information comes from a source I'd trust over any human scientist. And Tartaria or whatever you wish to call it did exist but much farther into the past, more than 12000bc. It wasn't melted by an xfactor event, it went down in a terrible war some people here know about. Don't be discouraged to dig deeper. All the best
 

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