I wonder what everyone knows and think about Roman Ungern Sternberg. He is a German and Baltic gentleman. And it is a warlord supporting the Mongols around Baikal. He fought with yehuborim and communists throughout his war life. Then he was executed. And he believed it was Genghis Khan's reincarnation of. Is he traditional or Buddhist? :?:
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Roman Ungern Sternberg
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Jax666
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I'm a mongolian and from what i know,Prince.of.wallachia said:
Ungern Sternberg was a buddhist, appointed Ching Wang, brave lord by Bogdu Khan, the religious leader and the mongolian monarch after freeing Ulan-Bator(Ulaanbaatar) from Chinese Guomingdan soldiers. He originally intended to make mongolia a basis to fight bosheviks but lost the upper hand to the Peoples party of mongolia and the red army. He came to mongolia through baikal, where buryat-mongols lived and from there acquired hundreds of buryat mongol warriors who desired the unification and independence for all the mongols. He is indeed regarded as a god of war or rencarnation of the Khan.
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There are diaries and writings about him, Ungern talked about his ancestry to Ossendovski, according to which he is a descendant from german knights, whose grandfather got expelled to Russia after being caught as a pirate in early 19th century. He was a loyal military officer of the Russian kingdom, a warrior who fought at the russian side during the first world war and went to the royal military academy in Siberia. He and his superior and co-leader Ataman Simonov, after the emergence of the bolsheviks, used panmongolism, in other words, intended to unite all the mongols to use them as their military basis to fight the communist revolutionaries and to renominate the Tsar as the ruler of Russia. Also, berg is not really a jewish word or surname originally. Berg means mountain in german, and there are many streets and districts with berg names. The reason there are many yehuborim with this name is yehuborim lived in villages on mountain lands, an example of it would be Amschel Rothschild.Shael said:
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The reason why many yehuborim got themselves the surname "-berg" is because it was supposed to mean like, a mountain of something. For example Goldberg = mountain of gold.Jax911 said:
I'm not too well versed in history, but I remember the HPs talking about some events a few hundreds years or so ago, where yehuborim got assigned "new" surnames upon immigration. Based on their wealth, they received different levels of surnames. Goldberg would be a rather prestigious jewish surname, whereas Steinberg (for example) would be a less wealthy one.
About this person, I do not know the historical "facts" or anything. I merely pointed out the surname which may raise suspicion.
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Shael said:
Looking for images of him on Google one quickly realizes that he was a Aryan gentile.
I see impossible for him to be the reincarnation of Genghis Khan because he was Aryan and instead Genghis Khan was Asian.
Wotanwarrior said:Shael said:
Looking for images of him on Google one quickly realizes that he was a Aryan gentile.
I see impossible for him to be the reincarnation of Genghis Khan because he was Aryan and instead Genghis Khan was Asian.
Yes, true..
https://youtu.be/Qis9pI8Yr1Q
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I know, the belief of him being the reincarnation of the Khan, is rather a buddhistic view as we all know that mongols in the 20th century were heavily indoctrinated by buddhism. He is seen as a god war and a liberator of the mongols by some but also as a bandit and feudal by some(which is a communist point of view as one can see).Wotanwarrior said:Shael said:
Looking for images of him on Google one quickly realizes that he was a Aryan gentile.
I see impossible for him to be the reincarnation of Genghis Khan because he was Aryan and instead Genghis Khan was Asian.
I'm not new with this Baron Ungern-Sternberg. He is seen as an excuse to promote the idiotic and anti-spiritual ideology of the Perennial Philosophy, better known as Perennialism. I have already exposed it as a false doctrine that has nothing to do with real Zevism, let alone Ancient Paganism. Anyway, he is seen as a "Perennialist" because he was born as a Lutheran who also prayed in Russian Orthodox Churches and Mongol Buddhist Temples, while also attending shaman ceremonies (from the Pagan Religion of Tengrism) and making friends with Muslims. And, as you said, he was seen by Mongols as an incarnation of Mahakala, the Buddhist version of Shiva. He is also described to have swallowed a St. George medal before dying.
Now, other than possibly being spiritually wrong, he identified as a reincarnation of a person from another race (Genghis Khan) and even wanted to create, according to some of his modern followers, an Eurasian Empire with the Japanese Showa Emperor and the last member of the Qing Dynasty, which would be dangerous from any WW2 regime viewpoint. And it seems that he was not just for Traditionalism, but for Barbarism, which is Abrahmic, not Zevist.
The only interpretation that could make him pass for an Zevism is the one of Jean Mabire, where he is claimed to have criticized both Buddhism and Xianity, while identify only with Tengrism. But this version is not considered reliable.
He may have killed many yehuborim and commies, and he still pisses off some of the latter, but there is no reason for any Zevism to believe that he is 100% a model to follow, when we had people in history who did for Satan more than he did.
I also prefer to keep myself away from his modern day followers, as they reject Nationalsocialism while promoting Barbarism, Perennialism and even Eurasianism, things that Nazbols also loves.
Now, other than possibly being spiritually wrong, he identified as a reincarnation of a person from another race (Genghis Khan) and even wanted to create, according to some of his modern followers, an Eurasian Empire with the Japanese Showa Emperor and the last member of the Qing Dynasty, which would be dangerous from any WW2 regime viewpoint. And it seems that he was not just for Traditionalism, but for Barbarism, which is Abrahmic, not Zevist.
The only interpretation that could make him pass for an Zevism is the one of Jean Mabire, where he is claimed to have criticized both Buddhism and Xianity, while identify only with Tengrism. But this version is not considered reliable.
He may have killed many yehuborim and commies, and he still pisses off some of the latter, but there is no reason for any Zevism to believe that he is 100% a model to follow, when we had people in history who did for Satan more than he did.
I also prefer to keep myself away from his modern day followers, as they reject Nationalsocialism while promoting Barbarism, Perennialism and even Eurasianism, things that Nazbols also loves.
