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Ritual’s and wings of the soul - “am I a Yehubor” q’s

Sundara

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I sincerely thought I was over this thought long ago, It’s stupid as fuck to always be wondering this stuff and I see it all the times on the forums. I think I know I’m not but then I think the Ritual’s are a great sure fire way to have a without a doubt answer.

I was 99.9% sure prior after a long time of dealing with the question, then during the Ritual I had an incredibly positive experience but then a slight “negative” one on top of it. It didn’t have a negative result, but as I was clearing the junk off my soul and feeling my wings like never before in the middle, it’s like I hit some blockage and had a lot of emotions come up. I stopped for a second and cried for some reason. It felt really good to cry, like I’d been holding it back. Afterward the astral was super clear and shiny and I felt so free. During the process, I saw some really negative links and flaws that I need to clear out, but not that I could immediately get rid of. It seems like they’re links that leave me open to attacks or like enemy links, or holes that allow for enemy energy to seep in. I felt my wings all night after that though, and the following day was incredible. Aside from one thing, Going through hard Saturn transits and got pulled over, looked at the cop and thought “man what a dick, how about don’t give me a ticket you prick” and he came back with a smile on his face and said he would let me off with a warning. Not sure if negative or positive. Seems like people are a lot nicer after Ritual’s and I feel more sociable, connected to the world, connected to my kids, and just happy and fearless. For some reason I’ve been feeling fear and question prior to doing the Ritual’s though,

I wish there was something like tinder but for “am I a Yehubor” as well lol



Would this qualify as a completely positive Ritual experience, and does feeling the wings of your soul heavily throughout the whole process 100% say you’re not a Yehubor?
 
Sundara said:
I sincerely thought I was over this thought long ago, It’s stupid as fuck to always be wondering this stuff and I see it all the times on the forums. I think I know I’m not but then I think the Ritual’s are a great sure fire way to have a without a doubt answer.

I was 99.9% sure prior after a long time of dealing with the question, then during the Ritual I had an incredibly positive experience but then a slight “negative” one on top of it. It didn’t have a negative result, but as I was clearing the junk off my soul and feeling my wings like never before in the middle, it’s like I hit some blockage and had a lot of emotions come up. I stopped for a second and cried for some reason. It felt really good to cry, like I’d been holding it back. Afterward the astral was super clear and shiny and I felt so free. During the process, I saw some really negative links and flaws that I need to clear out, but not that I could immediately get rid of. It seems like they’re links that leave me open to attacks or like enemy links, or holes that allow for enemy energy to seep in. I felt my wings all night after that though, and the following day was incredible. Aside from one thing, Going through hard Saturn transits and got pulled over, looked at the cop and thought “man what a dick, how about don’t give me a ticket you prick” and he came back with a smile on his face and said he would let me off with a warning. Not sure if negative or positive. Seems like people are a lot nicer after Ritual’s and I feel more sociable, connected to the world, connected to my kids, and just happy and fearless. For some reason I’ve been feeling fear and question prior to doing the Ritual’s though,

I wish there was something like tinder but for “am I a Yehubor” as well lol



Would this qualify as a completely positive Ritual experience, and does feeling the wings of your soul heavily throughout the whole process 100% say you’re not a Yehubor?

It does not matter see-->
How to overcome "Am I Yehuborim?" phase
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=158814#p158814
 
Sundara said:


Seriously Sundara, you're good, you're not a Yehubor. The Ritual would be legit tearing your soul apart, not freeing it to the point that your astral wings finally release. Our astral wings represent the freedom of our soul, the bigger, healthier and stronger they are, the more powerful and free the soul of the individual is. If the yehuborim did have astral wings the Ritual would be ripping them off or destroying them, not making them stronger.

The Ritual removes curses and bindings from our soul to free us, when filth and garbage is cleaned from our soul it surfaces and manifests in their negative forms as fear, sadness, anxiety, etc, but as the negative energy keeps being cleaned out these negative manifestations lessen more and more in time until they're gone completely.
 
Sundara said:
Aside from one thing, Going through hard Saturn transits and got pulled over, looked at the cop and thought “man what a dick, how about don’t give me a ticket you prick” and he came back with a smile on his face and said he would let me off with a warning. Not sure if negative or positive.
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Well gee, I'd say avoiding a $200 ticket (or whatever the amount is, depending on what you were stopped for) is a good thing. I've managed to get out of really expensive tickets somehow (Like "no insurance" tickets for example, those are really expensive)

I do have a little psychological trick you could use on law enforcement, this works if you're in the USA.

You order one of these Blue Line Flag stickers, right?

https://www.thinbluelineusa.com/products/thin-blue-line-american-flag-sticker-4-x-6-inches?keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAjwwMn1BRAUEiwAZ_jnEsWjBo27inwPFk6uvVi_pI2qBaIiKmyLaguuJ2ZLxPXSUY7inNMAZBoCD5gQAvD_BwE

You put them on the back of your car and you're less likely to get pulled over because you are seen as a vocal supporter of law enforcement. Even if you do get pulled over, the cop will probably be easier on you. My father drove without a license for 20 years, and he put that sticker on the back of his truck, and boom, no cop has messed with him (He got his license back now so...) but this works as a psychological tool.
 
I also experienced fear and hesitance before the Ritual last night. I mean, that didn't stop me though lol. figure of the past yes, slight paranoia this will TOTALLY stop me from doing the Ritual :lol:.

Pretty sure that doesn't make ya a Yehubor, I know I'm not. It hadnt happened to me before up until that point. If your life isn't flat out being destroyed by the Ritual you're most likely not a Yehubor. Plus, correct me if I am wrong but don't yehuborim lack wings? It seems like one of the traits they'd be missing considering the things its related to.
 
Arin said:
Pretty sure that doesn't make ya a Yehubor, I know I'm not. It hadnt happened to me before up until that point. If your life isn't flat out being destroyed by the Ritual you're most likely not a Yehubor. Plus, correct me if I am wrong but don't yehuborim lack wings? It seems like one of the traits they'd be missing considering the things its related to.

Well gee, if that's true, then my anxieties on the subject are relieved....my wings are out almost all the time. Black as a raven's wings, and flowing in the wind.
 
Arin said:
I also experienced fear and hesitance before the Ritual last night. I mean, that didn't stop me though lol. figure of the past yes, slight paranoia this will TOTALLY stop me from doing the Ritual :lol:.

Pretty sure that doesn't make ya a Yehubor, I know I'm not. It hadnt happened to me before up until that point. If your life isn't flat out being destroyed by the Ritual you're most likely not a Yehubor. Plus, correct me if I am wrong but don't yehuborim lack wings? It seems like one of the traits they'd be missing considering the things its related to.

Is that true? They do seem too crunchy and robotic, not sure how wings could flutter around their weird exoskeleton :lol:

Well, I feel pretty awful for even allowing the thought back in to begin with, it’s discrediting to my other spiritual experiences and the help that the Gods give. It’s an offensive thought, I take offense to my own anxious thoughts at times. I was done with that thought for so long, I completely forgot about it and then when I started doing Ritual’s it just picked back up. I’ll just chuck it in the fuck it bucket again.. :twisted:
 
I think it's the enemy (there are more grey's in the astral) attacking. Fear, anxiety and doubts, it never happened to me but the last month during the Yehuborim holidays i felt it so much. Now it's under controll.
 
Sundara said:
Arin said:
I also experienced fear and hesitance before the Ritual last night. I mean, that didn't stop me though lol. figure of the past yes, slight paranoia this will TOTALLY stop me from doing the Ritual :lol:.

Pretty sure that doesn't make ya a Yehubor, I know I'm not. It hadnt happened to me before up until that point. If your life isn't flat out being destroyed by the Ritual you're most likely not a Yehubor. Plus, correct me if I am wrong but don't yehuborim lack wings? It seems like one of the traits they'd be missing considering the things its related to.

Is that true? They do seem too crunchy and robotic, not sure how wings could flutter around their weird exoskeleton :lol:

Well, I feel pretty awful for even allowing the thought back in to begin with, it’s discrediting to my other spiritual experiences and the help that the Gods give. It’s an offensive thought, I take offense to my own anxious thoughts at times. I was done with that thought for so long, I completely forgot about it and then when I started doing Ritual’s it just picked back up. I’ll just chuck it in the fuck it bucket again.. :twisted:
[quote"ShadowTheRaven"]...[/quote]

I can't really confirm or deny it (cant see the astral, with the exceptions of a few times), what I can say though is that a Yehubor in NO WAY would obtain them via Ritual and ToZ meditations lmao. It is possible for yehuborim to spiritually advance but they do it in a very different way then we do. You guys don't have anything to worry about, really. If you've had positive experiences from dedicating and doing Rituals you are probably not a Yehubor, especially considering its already been a few months or more for the both of ya. Plus, Sundara ( and Shadow ) even if you hadn't provided input on the subject I was already pretty sure you two weren't yehuborim. Really, don't worry. :smile:

If someone who can see the astral could input on this I'd appreciate it.
 
ShadowTheRaven said:
Sundara said:
Aside from one thing, Going through hard Saturn transits and got pulled over, looked at the cop and thought “man what a dick, how about don’t give me a ticket you prick” and he came back with a smile on his face and said he would let me off with a warning. Not sure if negative or positive.
.
Well gee, I'd say avoiding a $200 ticket (or whatever the amount is, depending on what you were stopped for) is a good thing. I've managed to get out of really expensive tickets somehow (Like "no insurance" tickets for example, those are really expensive)

I do have a little psychological trick you could use on law enforcement, this works if you're in the USA.

You order one of these Blue Line Flag stickers, right?

https://www.thinbluelineusa.com/products/thin-blue-line-american-flag-sticker-4-x-6-inches?keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAjwwMn1BRAUEiwAZ_jnEsWjBo27inwPFk6uvVi_pI2qBaIiKmyLaguuJ2ZLxPXSUY7inNMAZBoCD5gQAvD_BwE

You put them on the back of your car and you're less likely to get pulled over because you are seen as a vocal supporter of law enforcement. Even if you do get pulled over, the cop will probably be easier on you. My father drove without a license for 20 years, and he put that sticker on the back of his truck, and boom, no cop has messed with him (He got his license back now so...) but this works as a psychological tool.

That is mind-blowing.
 
Ghost in the Machine said:
Sundara said:


Seriously Sundara, you're good, you're not a Yehubor. The Ritual would be legit tearing your soul apart, not freeing it to the point that your astral wings finally release. Our astral wings represent the freedom of our soul, the bigger, healthier and stronger they are, the more powerful and free the soul of the individual is. If the yehuborim did have astral wings the Ritual would be ripping them off or destroying them, not making them stronger.

The Ritual removes curses and bindings from our soul to free us, when filth and garbage is cleaned from our soul it surfaces and manifests in their negative forms as fear, sadness, anxiety, etc, but as the negative energy keeps being cleaned out these negative manifestations lessen more and more in time until they're gone completely.



Do your wings ever itch though? I’ve heard of hurting before but lately they’re also itchy. Could just be allergies of some sort in a similar location, cuz usually my whole body itches but right now it’s just my shoulder areas
 
Sundara said:
Ghost in the Machine said:

Do your wings ever itch though? I’ve heard of hurting before but lately they’re also itchy. Could just be allergies of some sort in a similar location, cuz usually my whole body itches but right now it’s just my shoulder areas

Not for me, but I've had intense shoulder aches that lasted for a week when I first started working on them. It feels pleasurable when I focus energy to them nowadays.

I have felt itching however when I was opening my minor body chakras, along with pinching, ticklish sensations and something akin to an electrical charge, all changing from point to point. Perhaps this is a similar case for you and your astral wings. The astral wings are connected through a few minor chakra points and the shoulder chakras, the itching is very likely just the physical manifestation of them being stimulated.

Sensations vary from person to person on each thing and are different for everyone. There's nothing wrong about it and there's no cause for alarm.
 
Ghost in the Machine said:
Sundara said:
Ghost in the Machine said:

Do your wings ever itch though? I’ve heard of hurting before but lately they’re also itchy. Could just be allergies of some sort in a similar location, cuz usually my whole body itches but right now it’s just my shoulder areas

Not for me, but I've had intense shoulder aches that lasted for a week when I first started working on them. It feels pleasurable when I focus energy to them nowadays.

I have felt itching however when I was opening my minor body chakras, along with pinching, ticklish sensations and something akin to an electrical charge, all changing from point to point. Perhaps this is a similar case for you and your astral wings. The astral wings are connected through a few minor chakra points and the shoulder chakras, the itching is very likely just the physical manifestation of them being stimulated.

Sensations vary from person to person on each thing and are different for everyone. There's nothing wrong about it and there's no cause for alarm.



Yeah I’m just curious because as they get stronger there are such new things that come along. I first felt them when I was in high school, it’s been off and on, but nothing flutters them quite like the Ritual’s. Nothing ever single handedly and so easily like the Ritual’s, even with a lack of focus it’s beautiful. The itching almost feels like it’d be feathers resting or poking into my back, I think the most likely explanation is the minor chakras being stimulated though.
 
Ghost in the Machine said:
Not for me, but I've had intense shoulder aches that lasted for a week when I first started working on them. It feels pleasurable when I focus energy to them nowadays.

I have felt itching however when I was opening my minor body chakras, along with pinching, ticklish sensations and something akin to an electrical charge, all changing from point to point. Perhaps this is a similar case for you and your astral wings. The astral wings are connected through a few minor chakra points and the shoulder chakras, the itching is very likely just the physical manifestation of them being stimulated.

Sensations vary from person to person on each thing and are different for everyone. There's nothing wrong about it and there's no cause for alarm.

When I work on my wings, they hurt...like they're actually trying to come out of my back. Imagine how painful that sounds, a huge pair of wings just sprout out of your back with the pain of a thousand deaths.
 
ShadowTheRaven said:
Ghost in the Machine said:

When I work on my wings, they hurt...like they're actually trying to come out of my back. Imagine how painful that sounds, a huge pair of wings just sprout out of your back with the pain of a thousand deaths.

That sounds more like a blockage/binding of sorts to me that their fighting through.

Try vibrating the MUNKA rune intensely 9 times into each of these points shown below. Do this twice a day once in the morning and once in the evening for at least a week while visualizing a barrier/chains/wall/cage shattering, crumbling, breaking away and being destroyed into nothing, allowing your wings to come out.

Wings1.jpg


The wings like I said represent the soul's freedom, if your soul is not free to a decent degree they will not come out or will struggle to come out and this can be agonizingly painful. So in addition you might need to free your soul further. The Sun Square "for help in health and overall spiritual advancement related to the Sun" helps with doing this.
 
ShadowTheRaven said:
Ghost in the Machine said:
Not for me, but I've had intense shoulder aches that lasted for a week when I first started working on them. It feels pleasurable when I focus energy to them nowadays.

I have felt itching however when I was opening my minor body chakras, along with pinching, ticklish sensations and something akin to an electrical charge, all changing from point to point. Perhaps this is a similar case for you and your astral wings. The astral wings are connected through a few minor chakra points and the shoulder chakras, the itching is very likely just the physical manifestation of them being stimulated.

Sensations vary from person to person on each thing and are different for everyone. There's nothing wrong about it and there's no cause for alarm.

When I work on my wings, they hurt...like they're actually trying to come out of my back. Imagine how painful that sounds, a huge pair of wings just sprout out of your back with the pain of a thousand deaths.


I think I’m going through that with the lower points. I’ve always felt more of a tickle and rush but where the lower points are.... what the fuck lmao

I was at a friends today and thought something had bit or stung me. I took off my shirt and my friend said she couldn’t see shit. It feels like someone is prodding me with a hot iron. A small one though, so it’s not bad.
 
Ghost in the Machine said:
ShadowTheRaven said:
Ghost in the Machine said:

When I work on my wings, they hurt...like they're actually trying to come out of my back. Imagine how painful that sounds, a huge pair of wings just sprout out of your back with the pain of a thousand deaths.

That sounds more like a blockage/binding of sorts to me that their fighting through.

Try vibrating the MUNKA rune intensely 9 times into each of these points shown below. Do this twice a day once in the morning and once in the evening for at least a week while visualizing a barrier/chains/wall/cage shattering, crumbling, breaking away and being destroyed into nothing, allowing your wings to come out.

Wings1.jpg


The wings like I said represent the soul's freedom, if your soul is not free to a decent degree they will not come out or will struggle to come out and this can be agonizingly painful. So in addition you might need to free your soul further. The Sun Square "for help in health and overall spiritual advancement related to the Sun" helps with doing this.
Regarding the image, exactly in those parts marked I have started feeling pressure, or rather, vibration. It doesn't make me uncomfortable, it feels like slight numbness or just a feeling that makes me be aware that the specific area is "active".

Usually I don't really "feel" my back and after doing more and more Rituals and meditations daily this feeling of pressure in that area started to manifest.

Any idea what it might mean?
 
Baolan666 said:
Regarding the image, exactly in those parts marked I have started feeling pressure, or rather, vibration. It doesn't make me uncomfortable, it feels like slight numbness or just a feeling that makes me be aware that the specific area is "active".

Usually I don't really "feel" my back and after doing more and more Rituals and meditations daily this feeling of pressure in that area started to manifest.

Any idea what it might mean?

It means you are growing wings. :) Keep on going.
 

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