regarding fascism

[karlburdo1]

Hello everybody. Some things have been bugging me recently. I am trying to embrace the idea that A.Hitler meant well for the gentiles. Personally I come from a Slavic country. There is a lot of misconception for sure. After all we were attacked and a lot of intelligentsia here were killed ... by nazis. Let's assume they were Yehubor lackeys etc. Fact is this doesn't sound good and any argument is ruined by this simple historical fact. 
Now, the other issue is how should I understand fascism. Is Italian, Spanish or Chroatian fascism somehow different from German fascism? All of a sudden you say that South american junta did some wrong things. However Hitler supported Chroatian and Italian fascists, who were pro church and committed some atrocities. It's really confusing. Can someone smart enlighten me? 
Praise the Gentile Gods

 

[Egon Albrecht]

Why shocking? Simple because someone dares to defy the so called "official history" or what you call by "facts". Do you sincerely believe the powers does want you to know the real facts? LoL you even quotes wikipedia, which was neither to taken seriously by any double digit IQ person. If you believe so then you probably believes in what the mainstream have to say about Satan, the Holohoax and the lies about Hitler just because the general population take it as "facts".

You tries to say you not believe the general lies about Hitler but you fall believening "facts" just because they seems official and with a certain authority. They even build a monument about the "nazi cruelty" against some people then it have to be true. Why someone would invent such a terrible lie? LoL they have dozens of monuments about the holohoax and it doesn't make it true.
Shocked to discover the "historical facts" of your country are built upon lies? Why a government would make official such terrible slanders!!! OHHHH!!!!!
wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes ... rld_War_II
This link contains most of the details.

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Hello Sir
Thank you for replying. It's shocking to hear you claim my country's historical facts are a lie. We have many graves and monuments to victims from September 1939 in Poland. It did happen. How can you claim it did not? I'm not saying Hitler's Germany was out to enslave our nation but they did kill some teachers, priests (even though catholic) and some other burgois patriots in 1939. Of course commies killed patriots in the east, I know. 
Do you know about the pack Ribbentrop - Molotov? 
Kind RegardsKarl

<egon88 wrote:
Slanders apart, there was no such a thing of "German fascism" and it is a lie nazism did killed any slavic intelligentsia, on the contrary, was the communists who did it along with oppressing the rest of the populatio, of which the nazis helped to free and even created NS communities there for the slavics: there were receptioned as salvators by the slavic population.
Adolf Hitler, Man of Peace : http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic318.html

Understanding National Socialism
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic2297.html

 

[karlburdo1]

@Egon 88 I do appreciate all comments. I'm happy you think Slavs deserve to be treated well. Also I am really  happy my question has been posted for others consideration. However I must disagree. It's a historical fact that Germans killed many members of Polish intelligentsia in September 1939. I'm not talking about Soviet crimes in the east of Polish territory (Katyn forest). This needs to be clarified. I even know that Germans killed a few Polish catholic priests, which is shocking because Germany had a concordat with the Vatican.  
I hope to have an honest discussion here. Praise to the Gentile Gods !Hail Satan !

 

[karlburdo1]

@tuareme I'm aware of Katyn killings. But you are clearly deluded as to Nazi intentions in Poland. Right after they came in September 1939, they killed hundreds of Poles (commies were not here until 1944-45 so commies couldn't kill in Pomerania and Central Poland), then they took away bigger farms from Polish owners and gave them to their own people. This I know from my gradfather when he still lived and he lived over 90 years. 
Thanks for the discussion though.

 

[[email protected]]

Probably due to some Poles retaliating the German advancement. You're aware that Hitler wished to regain the territories as well as save the ethnic Germans that were in the new Polish territory being treat with extreme hostility, yes? The Polish Anti-Air would even open fire on German civilian aircraft. The minorities, the ethnic Germans were physically assaulted, had their farms and homes torched, stores boycotted, not only that, but even the Polish officials would shoot at the refugees of the fleeing Germans that wanted freedom from the hostile oppression (80,000 German refugees were in Danzig and the German Reich.)
Also, Communists were invading the Eastern side of Poland in 1939, the same time Germany invaded Poland in the West. So to say the Communists were not there until 1944-1945 then you'd find you are the one who is truly deluded.
So yes, it would make sense that about a hundred Polish officials were killed by the German advancement to save the German minorities in Poland as well as re-taking the German territory. Please don't call me "deluded" if you have no idea what the German intentions even were.
Thanks a lot.

 

[enal_loric]

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[Shannon Outlaw]

Nicely said, Tuareme!



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On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:57 AM PST tuareme@... wrote:

Probably due to some Poles retaliating the German advancement. You're aware that Hitler wished to regain the territories as well as save the ethnic Germans that were in the new Polish territory being treat with extreme hostility, yes? The Polish Anti-Air would even open fire on German civilian aircraft. The minorities, the ethnic Germans were physically assaulted, had their farms and homes torched, stores boycotted, not only that, but even the Polish officials would shoot at the refugees of the fleeing Germans that wanted freedom from the hostile oppression (80,000 German refugees were in Danzig and the German Reich.)


Also, Communists were invading the Eastern side of Poland in 1939, the same time Germany invaded Poland in the West. So to say the Communists were not there until 1944-1945 then you'd find you are the one who is truly deluded.


So yes, it would make sense that about a hundred Polish officials were killed by the German advancement to save the German minorities in Poland as well as re-taking the German territory. Please don't call me "deluded" if you have no idea what the German intentions even were.


Thanks a lot.

 

[JoS Forum Contributions]

This is clearly lies as stated the Communists invaded Poland in 39 and took half of it. The Reds also invaded Poland in the early 20's but where turned back.
The situation is Poland has been under Communist rule for decades and as such has been subject to the Communist state religion and its rewriting of history.  The massacres that occurred where done by Polish death squads in places such as Broomberg where over 50,000 ethnic Germans where murdered which was the climax of a campaign to ethnically cleanse them that had been on going for awhile. This was what sparked the invasion into Poland to put an end to this. As the German Leaders stated in their speeches to the subject to the public. This happened after Hitler had made numerous appeals to the Polish government and League of Nations simply for the Polish government to respect the human rights of the ethnic Germans.  He even offered the Polish government economic boons and concessions for agreement for respect of their human rights.
What happened to cause the escalation of violence that caused the German humanitarian intervention. Was the Polish government had made a secret deal with England and France to engage Germany into conflict so the other two nations could have an excuse to declare war on Germany. Poland was promised more German land. Poland had been fighting conflicts of extending its territory leading up this as well.
Behind this was the Yehuborim who's plan was to have Poland, France and England bleed themselves out fighting Germany. And then they would sweep down on them all with the Red Army and put the rest of Europe under Communism. Churchill had his foreign minister in Moscow in 40 securing a pledge from Stalin to invade Europe in 42 or 43. Which is what caused the Axis invasion into the Soviet Union. As known the Red Army was planning to invade Europe in the following spring so they had to act fast to save Europe.
Mullins stated in his work that Stalin had a nervous breakdown over this. And Abe Heirmann a high ranking Yehuborim banker was flown in from America to quietly run the Soviet Union till Stalin recovered in 43. 

 

[karlburdo1]

@ Enal Loric: As far as I know the space online is nearly infinite, and we are all important to our Father. You can ignore my posts if some facts bother you. To tell someone they waste space when they try to reach some important conclusions and discuss history is an example of being a blind fanatic. 
@Tuareme: I was not aware of 80,000 refugees, I will have to study it. However what I wrote was true and it seems you can't handle the truth. In the period between 1918 and 1939 there were many rich Germans in the Polish territory, landowners, and probably some poor Germans too. They didn't flee and they employed local Polish workforce all right. They seemed to get along somehow. 
I may be wrong as to Hitler's intentions but I know that some Polish owners were expelled by German officials, so it was more like land robbery. 
Also I dislike the fact Hitler's Germany tried to force us to speak only German, they only allowed Polish language in Warsaw and Cracow regions. Fact is Pomerania was not always German. For periods it was but there were Polish nationals here too. 
Anyway I'd like to thank the moderators for allowing this discussion and not kicking me out. I remain interested in NS and something pulls me toward JOS as a whole. I can't explain it. Something rings true about satanism, but I reserve my right to stay open minded and question some things. 

 

[karlburdo1]

I'm honored by your reply HP Mageson. Could you specify where I lied?