Question #468: Azazel and his relationship with Saturn.

[Ask Satya Operator]

Hello everyone.

I am embarrassed to be asking something that could be typical of a beginner, so I do it anonymously.

I think Azazel is my guardian as I dreamed of him, he was advising me and he let me know his name. I also have Saturn at 6 degrees of Aquarius in my midheaven and I have the Sun in Capricorn.

My question is: being Apollo a solar God or bearer of the sun or light, why is his planet Saturn and how is Saturn related to him?

I am trying to draw my own conclusions, for example: my natal chart is very unfavorable, I am already working on it.

My saturn is so strong that it was overshadowing the characteristics of my ascendant. I think it has something to do with that.

Thanks for reading me.

 

[Novice Priest Karnonnos]

This is actually a very complex question. In Ancient Babylon, Saturn was considered to be 'the star of the Sun'', 'the Sun of the Night' and was referred to as 'the Indicator' by the Babylonians and Greeks. Diodorus claimed to the Babylonians, Saturn gave the most important and grave predictions. You probably know that Gods associated with Azazel, such as Apollo, deal with predictions and oracles.

Conventionally Saturn and The Sun appear to have oppositional characteristics (with Leo opposing Aquarius, The Sun ruling life and vitality and Saturn ruling limitations and death) but there is more to this relationship than meets the eye. That is part of the mysteries of Azazel.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Hello everyone.

I am embarrassed to be asking something that could be typical of a beginner, so I do it anonymously.

I think Azazel is my guardian as I dreamed of him, he was advising me and he let me know his name. I also have Saturn at 6 degrees of Aquarius in my midheaven and I have the Sun in Capricorn.

My question is: being Apollo a solar God or bearer of the sun or light, why is his planet Saturn and how is Saturn related to him?

I am trying to draw my own conclusions, for example: my natal chart is very unfavorable, I am already working on it.

My saturn is so strong that it was overshadowing the characteristics of my ascendant. I think it has something to do with that.

Thanks for reading me.

I wanted to ask this about Astarte as well since she mostly rules Venus.

 

[Epiphany]

Hello everyone.

I am embarrassed to be asking something that could be typical of a beginner, so I do it anonymously.

I think Azazel is my guardian as I dreamed of him, he was advising me and he let me know his name. I also have Saturn at 6 degrees of Aquarius in my midheaven and I have the Sun in Capricorn.

My question is: being Apollo a solar God or bearer of the sun or light, why is his planet Saturn and how is Saturn related to him?

I am trying to draw my own conclusions, for example: my natal chart is very unfavorable, I am already working on it.

My saturn is so strong that it was overshadowing the characteristics of my ascendant. I think it has something to do with that.

Thanks for reading me.

That is a great question. I don't have an answer for you, but these sermons might help you:

HP. Zevios Metathronos
Elysian Fields, Heaven, Saturn and Magnum Opus
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=23180&hilit=saturn

HP. Zevios Metathronos
The Wisdom Of Saturn
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=53366&hilit=saturn

 

[Anunakovich]

Hello everyone.

I am embarrassed to be asking something that could be typical of a beginner, so I do it anonymously.

I think Azazel is my guardian as I dreamed of him, he was advising me and he let me know his name. I also have Saturn at 6 degrees of Aquarius in my midheaven and I have the Sun in Capricorn.

My question is: being Apollo a solar God or bearer of the sun or light, why is his planet Saturn and how is Saturn related to him?

I am trying to draw my own conclusions, for example: my natal chart is very unfavorable, I am already working on it.

My saturn is so strong that it was overshadowing the characteristics of my ascendant. I think it has something to do with that.

Thanks for reading me.

Saturn's metal is lead
Azazel's metal is lead, Azazel is not the sun, but rather the light is the same as Mitre, the sun is specifically helios.
Saturn is associated with honesty, Saturn is considered to never lie
Saturn is a receptacle a vessel
When the vessel is filled with water
Aquarius appears
The sword is a symbol of knowledge
The sword has a correspondence with the element of air
Saturn's Number: 8
Zodiac Sign: Capricorn & Aquarius is Like that of... Baldur
The southern lunar node is Ketu the ghost planet is also associated with Azazel
Ketu number is 7 (it's close to me because I'm Ketu)
Ketu manages the old people. The bodily constitution of Ketu people is dominated by the dosha "wind", which makes them restless.
Ketu's friends are Mercury, Venus, Rahu and Saturn

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

This is actually a very complex question. In Ancient Babylon, Saturn was considered to be 'the star of the Sun'', 'the Sun of the Night' and was referred to as 'the Indicator' by the Babylonians and Greeks. Diodorus claimed to the Babylonians, Saturn gave the most important and grave predictions. You probably know that Gods associated with Azazel, such as Apollo, deal with predictions and oracles.

Conventionally Saturn and The Sun appear to have oppositional characteristics (with Leo opposing Aquarius, The Sun ruling life and vitality and Saturn ruling limitations and death) but there is more to this relationship than meets the eye. That is part of the mysteries of Azazel.

Saturn is the "Oracle" and there are direct links within this because divination is based on discerning cause and effect in whole complex fabric of the reality. This is not fully about only grave and negative predictions. The Sun of the Night is about spiritual knowledge and this is related to more Gods that teach this.

There is a concept in one book called "The Book of Five Rings" by Miyamoto Musashi that stated: " No Design, No Conception".

Here this is a fundamental spiritual knowledge, as all nature is and follows a design, a fabric and a geometry, a Saturn. Once there is design there is conceptualization, and this refers to the act of the consciousness of living beings, expanding our consciousness - a process of conceptualizing our design.

Living is a process of conceptualizing our design, Magic is a process of design and conceptualization, literally, this is how it forms in existence.

To Design something, to comprehend and conceptualize is known for examples to Yogis who taught and understood, that if one knows the formation at atomic levels and more, they get to know and see how an object truly exist, then if enacted in their mind, this will materialize physically. This is a siddhi in itself.

This goes in more depth as : " When word and action are spontaneously the same" . This is very deep as well. Once nature happens, words and action happen, and every action is spontaneously conceptualized by design. Everything and all is naturally to be divined, discerned, since all that is comes from a fabric of design and our abillity is therefore dependent on our perception and conceptualizing power.

This knowledge can be attributed directly to the power of divining, which is Our Sun (consciousness) attributed to Saturn (design - reality). There is No Sun Born without Saturn, and as the impersonal - personal polarity exist, this is of the same nature.

There IS obviously a lot more in-depth concepts and spiritual knowledge about his to be known that should be done in meditation.