satanama666 said:
Gear88 said:
Thank you a bit hard to read but I understand.
You should definitely try and improve your conceptualization of English Paragraphs. I'm one to talk as I have my own issues as well. Your good you seem to make proper statements and keep it well in your own slightly limited English.
Sheer fact is your statement basically boils down to unplanned wild free market PLUS(Combine) with Planned Economy to kinda kick people and countries asses until they are a Hypercorporation that is the State and the Company all in one.
What is your take on Directing Economy of NS Germany?
Not planned but neither not free to build whatever and powerbomb oppositions. I know someone mentioned Walther Funk was placed as Planned Economy as the war dragged on. But it seemed to imply Directing Economic principle rather than outright planned.
For example needing 50,000 tons of toilet paper only to realize you needed 65,000 tons or American style make 150,000 tons of toilet paper and then dump the rest everywhere powerbombing other competition.
It seems as you put it one is total hyper domination. Reminds me of playing Shadowbane and how the Asian players were hyper over competitive even to the point of hacking and duping items.
The other seems to construct everything from the microcosmic from the very small to the very large. I know microeconomics is a popular term popping up sometime in the last 30 years as things are scaled down. But microeconomics seems on a small scale to imply appropriate survival and existence through proper provisions.
I apologize if I don't 100% click with your statements. I have spent a long time focusing on econ principles in NatSoc. And it's real tough.
The Directing Economy is interesting from a mega account someone had.
I apologize of I can't find it but try and search it around. German Institute of Business: Directing Economy.
the search led nowhere,but my own conclusions are that a thing such as natsoc economy doesn't exist.economy is only a means to an end,and the natsoc end is for it to serve the people's needs rather than actually having a stable structure and it's mainly based on labor giving value to money and everything in general for that matter.for that reason it's standardly defined as a mixed economy(free market-central planned)based mostly on public works.hitler even had a quote saying"the basic feature of our economic theory is that we don't have one"which pretty much says everything.
i also have a question for you:why can't you just,umm,simply RESEARCH on your own,think thoroughly what you've learnt,put the pieces together and form an opinion of your own?as any other human being,you've got things such as logic and reason you can use for such things.no one is supposed to think for you,just as market speculation doesn't grow food,sew clothes,build houses etc or how spiritual strength and immortality can't be achieved with someone else meditating for you(things that may sound comfortable,but also make people lazy and dependent if it was the case).YOU have to do all these things and you should be thankful for this opportunity to achieve self-reliance,very needed regardless of anything.
Don't you think I've never done that?
Don't you think I've never read anything on NS economy, if this economic system is so easy to understand I'd have the answers to it don't you think.
If there are entities at play that literally state this is eval 'n' sheit. And I can't find one goddamn good deep dive of the economy.
Perhaps the question you should state is not "Am I so lazy I don't investigate?"
The question you should ask is "If you deep dived everything like this to the best of your capacity. Why do you even bother with others opinion if you formed your own understanding?"
Because I'd like to hear other people's opinion.
You really think I can go on the internet I go on Google or Dogpile or some normal or meta search engine and go
What is the National Socialist economy?
And poof like WOW so much to learn. You really think it's as simple as that. With the way the internet moves and all these books and all this stuff it becomes too much too burdonsome. I like deep diving even if it is to my detriment even if it's to the detriment of losing out on pre-, basic, intermediate and yes even advanced information.
But it's not like I can rent or buy or look up "National Socialist principle of economy". IF anything how much of mainstream or non-mainstream should I listen to.
See this is exactly why I should stop posting on the forums. Or for that manner bother with thinking this stuff. I've spent years thinking this stuff gets no where.
One person says this, another says that, another says yet another something. And in the end it's like "Fellow NS/SS personnel; Do any of you motherfuckers know a single goddamn thing about the NS economy; yes or no?"
It's like for example I know it's a creditless system. I have no idea if certain credit is used per say. I know it uses borrow from the citizens to fund the Government.
I know it's not set in stone and we can add stuff for example backings by Labor, Goods, Services, Infrastructure, E.o.t.m.o.e(Exchange of the Medium of Exchange), and a few other things I'm forgetting. I assume the gold-standard is used in some way. Like Russia they are on the gold-standard gold-backed gold-equivalent rubles but it limits growth unfortunately gold-standard does make it hard to conduct war. Albeit with other backing and labor plus borrowing from citizens i.e. Feder Money/Bills/Dollars. Feder's system could in essence be considered a more modern LYB(Low-Yield Bond) available not just for State use but also 3% back money to the person. Doesn't seem like much put in 18,000RM and get back 540RM isn't much but I figure in a NatSoc economy the scales of economy are MUCH lower and potentially a crypto/gold style deflationary system.
EOTMOE is important as in the NS economy doesn't need to be moved or put money into like in our system where everyone is bombarded with buying stuff. But when money is used by a person that medium of exchange force multiplies a person's buying power.
I've studied the NS economy except here on JoS and a handful of other places like VHO with Degrelle's statements and a few other places.
No one person or thing is going to say Hey look Nazi economy good, everything else is bad. This is why here are hundreds if not thousands of pages of documentation that show this economy fixed their nation and made it the enemy of everyone else.
It's like my stupid family that knows I'm NS/SS. If NS economy is so good why is it no one else in the World does it?
It literally fixed their nation and my family laughs and goes capitalism is the way to go it survived the War and made America rich.
Don't you think I don't study NS and apply NS logic to other economies to understand this system. Except taking things from many economic systems and doing a lot of American alternative economic theorums. Bluntly you state Hitler "We don't have an economic theory".
If it's that easy then might as well state "Take every single economic principle in the World that is positive. And apply it to the nation. Nothing bad, no berging, nor steining of shekels. No take it and apply it and see what happens".
Your basically stating Hitler came about and just trolled the World epically. It reminds me of Dr.Dalton's Mein Kampf when Gottfried Feder spoke "Hitler had one of his famous flashes of superstition and said "Economic principle?!?! holy shit I have a HUGE hole in my doctrine".
Don't you think I studied HistoryReviewed on Bitchute and his video on NS economy. He calls it Controlled Capitalism a better name would be Regulated Capitalism as it's anti-laiazze faire. Funny it's not even CC or RC nor Capitalism it's Socialism but not a Marxian Socialism.
The funny part is except for some interesting stuff. I highly doubt HistoryReviewed even knows what NSE is. If anything with the blunt Hitler statement did even Hitler and his entire country know what NS is.
Are you saying simply do good things and apply good things and that is it.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mSgEber5EcC0/
Maybe I'm making mountains out of anthills. But sheer fact is just because I don't want to research or lazy or whatever. Doesn't mean I never did research. But why bother researching everything gets taken down the internet or you lose information or not write things down or type things down.
Funny there was a HUGE anit-holohax website and it was changed re-arranged and then eventually shut down. Why? It talked about the huge microwave ovens cooking the clothing 2 minutes to kill lice and pest, 5 minutes to kill streph bacteria to prevent strephthroat and potentially other bacteria and germs who knows.
Why was the website taken down?
Sometimes the internet really is pointless. It's just a perpetual digital sandbox rewritten and recreated. Might as well create blockchaining websites and block-ledger websites and make sites nigh impossible to change or eliminate. Except probably a massive DDOS if somehow that holohax revisionist website could be up then cool if not then I just wasted 3 hours of my time researching only for it a few days later go under, changed, then poof gone.
All that information, all that data, all those pictures, all the information. Poof gone just like that snapped up in the eternal law of it's hard to create up but easy to destroy down.
So how is it I didn't study or contemplate NSE?
I want others opinion to add to my ever growing databanks. Not just individual specific tidbits but also general consensus. Not like my friend he studies like crazy but unless there is a general consensus among many he doesn't acclimate it to his databanks. I bank all the data no matter what and build model systems for and against. I can even attack my own system and yes I've gone through the whole is NS/SS fake is it just bored people making shit up cause life sucks and whatnot. I can be extremely despondent.
Like I said before everyone is capitalist and wants a Americana system. I don't I'm like try NS maybe you'll like it.
But I attack my own NS beliefs and figure if everyone is against me and I have to keep it a secret what is the point of studying or doing anything. IF the only thing is myself. Except JoS and my friend this triangle Me, Friend, and JoS are the only things that delve into topics deemed by everyone as evil or bad or negative or I hate Hitler, indeed why do you NPC hate Hitler. He killed people, so? lots of people killed others. Why do you hate Hitler? I don't know people hate him. Like my friend said not even these NPCs care to study one shred of information on why they hate this time period. They just state hate Hitler again Why? they don't even bother to study why they hate him. They just hate him cause the World says it.
I'm up against the World. It's Atlas with the Earth and every single motherfucker in the World is eating shit and not doing anything.
At this point the study of NS and NSE and anything related to this line of this realm. Is simply for personal understanding and study. It goes in my head and just simply think and study.
Knowing me I'd probably be considered a National Socialist Theoretician both hostile and inimical to NS and friendly and happy to be NS. In other words I can leverage my mind to understand multiple sides friendly and not. Sorta like military forces who train with OpFor, Oppositional Forces. IF anything OpFor, in modern times gives soldiers a false representation of combatants because they believe they are professionally trained. Nothing wrong with training professionally but even unprofessional people can take people out.
So how is it I never studied this stuff?
IF anything like I said above does any JoS member even have a degree of tremendous understanding on the economic system. No, likely never, there is not a professional person a Doctor hell even a crappy Doctor a stupid degree by a person who is so pigeonholed into one sector of reality that only proper and healthy study habits allows them to gaze forth elsewhere. But is in no way shape or form a generalist or a jack of all trade master of none.
Neither Doctor a master of one nor a generalist such as myself posses the understanding of the NSES(National Socialist Economic System).
Thus we doomed ourselves of wonderful technology and only to destroy it. Like the Romans, collapse we lost the technology of the bathroom, toilets, and pipes.
We lost technology that no one posses. How do we get the technology back?
And even then why would anyone bother to implement this technology. Except a few rogue NS groups out in the World. No one gives a shit about this time period or if they do it's simply to attack it and go "See those Maga trumpists are Nazi or righties are nazies". Or everyones social marxist usage just throw it out whenever and see for effect.
In the end why do you bother to attack me if I anything you should state "It's a shame there isn't that much information except some shreds of sermons and texts and passages around the internet there is barely a pamphlet's worth available to inscribe into society".
IF anything like I said and my friend said SS = Evil religious shit stupid devil stuff, and NS = the worst possible thing ever invented OMFG these people are beyond Satanic.
When stupid NPCs of the World believe NS = Beyond Satanic.
You got an issue.
Now you know why I don't bother much with anything. I just exist thinking back and going, just for my personal World I study this. Nothing more, nothing less.
For my senses especially my eyes and ears only. The Few, the Proud, the NS/SS.
Hell when even my own NS/SS personnel state my Worldview is considered not silly nor stupid no "Disgusting". It comes to show you even my own side detests me. I'm simply stating a truth and a factor of how shitty life is. But apparently we got Hitlers upon Hitlers here everyone is eqwalz 'n' sheit look at my feasting and beasting and I'm ravaging society and the enemy.
Either way I studied okay but I'd like others opinion as well.
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