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Path To The Godhead - Checkpoints & Evil

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos4 min to read

When one begins their journey in Zevism and the Path of the Gods, they do not immediately understand where it's going to end if adhered to properly. This ends in the Godhead, or the discovery of your own internal deified potential, powers and spiritual capacities.

One cannot even imagine it at first, so certain estimations are made that this or that would be the result. But the reality is, the end of this path far exceeds all of these expectations; but the "how" one will reach them, cannot be immediately decided when one has no clue what to expect or of what experiences it will entail in the first place.

One has to discover, learn and keep going. The path is for the most part "hidden", and even the words of others can help but it's not the same as one walking it for themselves. One must experience.

The above is not a simple or surface level task, and with honesty, one can ascertain how they are growing in that regard and where they are at the present moment. If expectations are kept to the side, one can see and enjoy where they are at, on their current level. And the less misplaced expectations, the better.

Since the above process is nothing to take lightly, it takes a while and it's important to give one's self to that process. One learns as one unfolds; not when one tries to force certain types of circumstances.

However this process is not only a spiritual process, it also has to do with certain checkpoints in your life, which relate around success, overcoming your obstacles, defeating certain forms of negativity in your life, establishing routines and overall, a path to over-coming. When this path is sufficiently followed, then these progressively combine with your spiritual progression to bring you closer to the Godhead. This process cannot be reached through delusion, but it can only be guaranteed through the mutual progression of you as a whole physically and spiritually.

You will not achieve a full level of Godhead without having done sufficient tasks physically or spiritually. These go together and cannot be separated.

As one keeps going and is determined and repetitive in the path, they find out that they are proceeding. One may not always know "where to" at first, but there are signs and in many cases a strong sense of inner knowing. One of the most major things for one to attain, is to understand the very subtle inner voice that tries to lead you to development, which is overshadowed many times through the falsehood of temporal loud noises in your life.

It's important on this path, when all the odds show you that you might fail, to understand which steps you must take in order to proceed. Sometimes, you might have to cut back or re-evaluate, and on others, you might have to push forth past the obstacles and break them. This "how you know about this" is one of the most important steps in your progression and can only be borne out of long-term experience and inner learning.

Awakening the God within is not a straightforward process and there are no bailouts. One makes major progress and they keep at it, and they eventually transform themselves step by step and in given checkpoints. Before these checkpoints, there is going to be considerable pressure to keep you beneath the checkpoint. These forces that set themselves there, are there to train you so that you proceed in your advancement.

Lastly, it's important to understand that the path to the Godhead is more important than "setting anyone straight". This also involves the enemy; the enemy would be irrelevant in a world where people were already straightened out; the priority is always on you and on our own to grow. The rest with the enemy is just a side by-product that is not the pertinent or anywhere close to the main goal of this path, whatsoever.

Because the enemy is rendered powerless when people restore their access to God, which is the most important topic in itself. When one awakens the internal power of the Gods, then all other lies on any side, do start to disappear.

Those who have the Power of the Gods within them, cannot be touched by evil. Evil is not more important than the goodness of walking the path, and it becomes it's servant and irrelevant after one is powerful enough.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

#20

This is very much needed just now HPZM

Brilliant thank you brother

Ave Satanas

#21

I have done many workings that resulted in basic strengthening to my life or routines, none of which would appear magical in origin to the average person, but all important to my advancement as an Zevism.

I think this is a very important point JG Blitzkreing. I have noticed this too. These routines and repetitive things are the most valuable for the advancement, but also for other goals in the life.

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#22

Tittle is a kind of mistake. I hope so.
How do you even know how checkpoints and path to Godhood looks like?
Even if you tried to show people sort of "unknown" how it is:
YES, way is hidden
YES, tasks spiritualy and physicaly
but it's well known generalities without further valuable lesson. This kind of lessons are lazy - populism, but in JOS closed group.

Don't be afraid to teach specific true - shocking true. All deep-in truths are mostly shocking isn't it? I also was afraid of people reaction to the "hardest info",
but let people reject or approve it. Anyway they will learn something if they want to find. We don't have time for such curiosities.

I know you have good intent, we're in the same team but with different experiences. The problem is that people taking this post like "HEY HEY GODHOOD HERE, CLAIM IT OR IT WILL GONE!". Intuition, empathy will tell you it's true or not. Don't tempt them in that way - more harming than beneficient.
People won't accept easily new deep-facts that harm their own corruption. Transformation isn't easy path - because you must learn how let die things that harm us. How to use life to proudly stand against Death. You can fight her or love her. The true might is to learn both.
AND WITH DEEP VALUABLE TRUTH YOU KILL A PART IN EACH PEOPLE. How they react? Angery, Rejectment, Arrogance, because all want to live. It's the hardest work starting from Saturn and ending on Pluto and further into ad infinitum. Black work, because learning people that Death isn't bad is a....issue.

"Hey I killed a part in you, but I'm happy that you appreaciated it, because you understand that my action helped you to broke you free (achieve bountiful wisodm)"

#23
Absolutesaid:post: 1115448

Tittle is a kind of mistake. I hope so.
How do you even know how checkpoints and path to Godhood looks like?
Even if you tried to show people sort of "unknown" how it is:
YES, way is hidden
YES, tasks spiritualy and physicaly
but it's well known generalities without further valuable lesson. This kind of lessons are lazy - populism, but in JOS closed group.

Don't be afraid to teach specific true - shocking true. All deep-in truths are mostly shocking isn't it? I also was afraid of people reaction to the "hardest info",
but let people reject or approve it. Anyway they will learn something if they want to find. We don't have time for such curiosities.

I know you have good intent, we're in the same team but with different experiences. The problem is that people taking this post like "HEY HEY GODHOOD HERE, CLAIM IT OR IT WILL GONE!". Intuition, empathy will tell you it's true or not. Don't tempt them in that way - more harming than beneficient.
People won't accept easily new deep-facts that harm their own corruption. Transformation isn't easy path - because you must learn how let die things that harm us. How to use life to proudly stand against Death. You can fight her or love her. The true might is to learn both.
AND WITH DEEP VALUABLE TRUTH YOU KILL A PART IN EACH PEOPLE. How they react? Angery, Rejectment, Arrogance, because all want to live. It's the hardest work starting from Saturn and ending on Pluto and further into ad infinitum. Black work, because learning people that Death isn't bad is a....issue.

You approach this topic from a state of double ignorance, the message of the post is lost on you because you view it through a lens of generalizations and populism, therefore missing what is said entirely. To equate this with lazyness of all things, says more about the state of your mind than anything else. Anyone can open a book by Plato or Socrates and read it with whatever bias to reach as false a conclusion about the contents as they want, the individual perception by a person of lesser knowledge does not reflect on the value and knowledge contained within a text.

Ask yourself, do you know what it means to do sufficient tasks spiritually and physically to reach the Godhead? This sermon is written to help one make this realization, what does it mean, how does it apply to my life, what do I need to do to awaken the God within? It is a key to self reflection, that applies to people on all levels.

As is often the case with sermons by HPZM, what you gain from them depends on your own level, to someone who is on a more initiatory stage in their Spiritual Satanic Path, a sermon or other spiritual text may appear very simple, because the writing does not really click with you yet since your consciousness is not receptive of the knowledge contained in the information.

HPZM knows what the checkpoints in life are to approach the Godhead. Of course as High Priest of the JoS, he understands this very well, because he lives it and pioneers this, therefore he can teach. He is one of the few in history qualified to teach about this.

There are both Hard Truths and Subtle Truths, some Truths are rather simple in nature, but complex and deep in reality, the complexity only being understood after deeper reflection upon the seemingly obvious. The JoS teaches the hard Truths, and the subtle Truths. Both are equally important.

The sermon teaches a few keys that are necessary to reach the Godhead, to be taken in together with other sermons and information about the Godhead to help initiates build a full picture over this process and how to apply it to their own lives, and Ascend themselves.

Nowhere does it say, or give an impression like this:

"HEY HEY GODHOOD HERE, CLAIM IT OR IT WILL GONE!"

If that is all you interpret from this text, you really have a very long way to go. But that is fine, the deeper you are in the darkness, the more potential enlightenment is possible, as there is more to illuminate, so you can learn a lot.

What you wrote here, how "People will not accept easily facts that harm their own corruption", you should reflect on that yourself, because it is very relevant to your present state.

Death is only a part of Transformation, not the sole part, it is one step in the Transformative Process. Creation, Regeneration and Resurrection are all part of this process too. Focusing too much on one side leads you nowhere, especially an obsession over the Death/Nigredo. Neither is the Death/Nigredo something you power through, it is something that moulds you regardless of your will, either you understand and grow from it, or it will destroy you, so before one can go into this stage of transformation, a lot of reflection and inner realization needs to take place, otherwise the ignorant self unwittingly remains in the darkness and will simply die, rather than Transform.

Hail Zeus Forever!
- Voice of Enki [SG]

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#24

Thank you.

Really insirational writing.

HAIL SATAN!

#25

Thank You HPZM666 for the wise sermon.
Everything little by little becoming clearer.

#26

When one begins their journey in Spiritual Satanism and the Path of the Gods, they do not immediately understand where it's going to end if adhered to properly. This ends in the Godhead, or the discovery of your own internal deified potential, powers and spiritual capacities.

One cannot even imagine it at first, so certain estimations are made that this or that would be the result. But the reality is, the end of this path far exceeds all of these expectations; but the "how" one will reach them, cannot be immediately decided when one has no clue what to expect or of what experiences it will entail in the first place.

One has to discover, learn and keep going. The path is for the most part "hidden", and even the words of others can help but it's not the same as one walking it for themselves. One must experience.

Thank you for making this post HPZM

#27

I appreciate the post, but what does “awakening the Godhead” mean in practice?

For now my practices involve chakra work and God rituals, as well as certain mantras like SATANAMA. I’m in the process of developing a routine for such.

What would be a proper routine to ensure long-term progress look like? Would doing about 30 mantras at least for each chakra and a God ritual daily be a good staple for gradual progress and evolution? I like to think of it as adding 1 coin a day to a jar, as it’s obviously a long-term project, but I want to make sure what I’m putting in the jar is actually a coin.

It means to start giving birth to and cultivating your own divine consciousness. Kundalini, Meditation but above all mental work, is required to that end. The Godhead is a path, and not a set destination; one keeps growing and growing from human to this consequential end.

Thank You HPZM666 for the wise sermon.
Everything little by little becoming clearer.

I am very glad this is the case, thank you. This is most valuable feedback. If post clarify and guide, they are successful.

You approach this topic from a state of double ignorance, the message of the post is lost on you because you view it through a lens of generalizations and populism, therefore missing what is said entirely. To equate this with lazyness of all things, says more about the state of your mind than anything else. Anyone can open a book by Plato or Socrates and read it with whatever bias to reach as false a conclusion about the contents as they want, the individual perception by a person of lesser knowledge does not reflect on the value and knowledge contained within a text.

Ask yourself, do you know what it means to do sufficient tasks spiritually and physically to reach the Godhead? This sermon is written to help one make this realization, what does it mean, how does it apply to my life, what do I need to do to awaken the God within? It is a key to self reflection, that applies to people on all levels.

As is often the case with sermons by HPZM, what you gain from them depends on your own level, to someone who is on a more initiatory stage in their Spiritual Satanic Path, a sermon or other spiritual text may appear very simple, because the writing does not really click with you yet since your consciousness is not receptive of the knowledge contained in the information.

It's absolutely as you say, thank you for the wise input brother and JG VoE.

I think this is a very important point JG Blitzkreing. I have noticed this too. These routines and repetitive things are the most valuable for the advancement, but also for other goals in the life.

Yes, absolutely, its as JG Blitz says. It's important to remember that the major aspect of this work is also based on routines and internal development. Improvement of habits = Improvement of the self.

Thank you, High Priest.

I've always had a tendency to be negative and too hard on myself. Always feeling like I'm not doing enough, I'm not good enough, etc.

But, as I look back, I can see how far I've come, already. And really, I'm not even two years in after my Dedication, so I should be a bit more reasonable, right? As you say, it's about where I am now, in the present moment. I must remain patient; these things come with time.

To be critical is great, to evaluate. But if one beats themselves down all the time worse than any enemy, does that sound remotely logical? One cannot grow when one is ruining themselves with overbearing or even irrational criticism.

#28

As we walk everything becomes clear on this path.

In the beginning I really didn't know what to expect or where I'd end up, I never expected to make it as far as I have.

I still have alot to work on in my spiritual and material aspects of life, but looking at who I was before and who I am now is like two vastly different people, now I am alot stronger and refined in many ways.

Sure, I would have expected some weaknesses and issues I have to be ironed out by now with how long I've been on the path, but even then this is a lesson for me to learn.

Everything takes time and it varies on an individual basis.

As I walk I will do my best to reach the end of this path in this life, immortalized and be able to give abundantly to the world, the Joy of Satanas, and serve under our beloved creator Lord Satanas.

And if I do not? That is okay, I have made peace with that possible outcome at this point. Regardless, I will do everything in my power to take this body and soul I have to divine heights.

I have nothing but gratitude and the deepest respect for Demoness Pythia, High Priest Zevios Metathronos, High Priestess Lydia, and all of our beloved Guardians.

I extend as well in nothing but kindness and reverence for our people, our family here who is working to emulate and become like the Gods. May our beloved creator help us walk upwards until we are immortalized in the the divine light once again whole, complete at the end of this whole great process.

HAIL TO SATANAS!

HAIL TO ALL OF THE GODS AND GODDESSES!

HAIL TO THE JOY OF SATANAS!

“Come to me, O Lord IAO, great Zeus-Ammon, hidden fire, all-seeing one, ram-horned, first and last, who rules from the sun.”
PGM V.96–172

“I am Atum, when I was alone in Nun. I am the beginning and the end.”
Coffin Texts, Spell 714

(Enki of Eridu, Lord of the Earth -- Poem)
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#29

Everything takes time and it varies on an individual basis.

Everyone has to do their own part; not the part of anyone else but themselves.

The individual journey is the important thing. One a collective level we can attain things that we would never attain as individuals. That's the collective level.

The individual level is another situation and the two must not be conflated in negative comparisson. They connect, but they are not one and the same. I will never be the best artist for the JoS in this lifetime, someone else will be. It's all good and exactly as it should be.

As we try to perform on the general aspect of the whole, we also overcome a lot of things in ourselves that we would not otherwise have overcome.

The degree of any individual is how much they are overcoming in their own individual context, not in "comparisson". Comparisson can mislead in self-evaluation. It's erroneous to use in the context of self judgement.

The heroic route is anyone who is essentially doing the self improvement and fixing; it's the same underlying principle for anyone here, without exemptions. That's how self value is judged. The heroic nature is the nature that does it's own lifting, and the rest will come to everyone.

#30

Everyone has to do their own part; not the part of anyone else but themselves.

The individual journey is the important thing. One a collective level we can attain things that we would never attain as individuals. That's the collective level.

The individual level is another situation and the two must not be conflated in negative comparisson. They connect, but they are not one and the same. I will never be the best artist for the JoS in this lifetime, someone else will be. It's all good and exactly as it should be.

Thank you very much for pointing this out. Sometimes I neglect to elaborate.

“Come to me, O Lord IAO, great Zeus-Ammon, hidden fire, all-seeing one, ram-horned, first and last, who rules from the sun.”
PGM V.96–172

“I am Atum, when I was alone in Nun. I am the beginning and the end.”
Coffin Texts, Spell 714

(Enki of Eridu, Lord of the Earth -- Poem)
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87236

#31

I agree with everything. Thank you High Priest Zevios Metathronos.

#32

There are things in terms of perception and understanding that cannot be explained in words, they have to be experienced.
Very well detailed post HP!

#33

Beautiful sermon, thank you HPZM 666!

#35

You approach this topic from a state of double ignorance, the message of the post is lost on you because you view it through a lens of generalizations and populism, therefore missing what is said entirely. To equate this with lazyness of all things, says more about the state of your mind than anything else. Anyone can open a book by Plato or Socrates and read it with whatever bias to reach as false a conclusion about the contents as they want, the individual perception by a person of lesser knowledge does not reflect on the value and knowledge contained within a text.

Ask yourself, do you know what it means to do sufficient tasks spiritually and physically to reach the Godhead? This sermon is written to help one make this realization, what does it mean, how does it apply to my life, what do I need to do to awaken the God within? It is a key to self reflection, that applies to people on all levels.

As is often the case with sermons by HPZM, what you gain from them depends on your own level, to someone who is on a more initiatory stage in their Spiritual Satanic Path, a sermon or other spiritual text may appear very simple, because the writing does not really click with you yet since your consciousness is not receptive of the knowledge contained in the information.

I didn't write my respond to you, so stop

You approach this topic from a state of double ignorance, the message of the post is lost on you because you view it through a lens of generalizations and populism, therefore missing what is said entirely. To equate this with lazyness of all things, says more about the state of your mind than anything else. Anyone can open a book by Plato or Socrates and read it with whatever bias to reach as false a conclusion about the contents as they want, the individual perception by a person of lesser knowledge does not reflect on the value and knowledge contained within a text.

Ask yourself, do you know what it means to do sufficient tasks spiritually and physically to reach the Godhead? This sermon is written to help one make this realization, what does it mean, how does it apply to my life, what do I need to do to awaken the God within? It is a key to self reflection, that applies to people on all levels.

As is often the case with sermons by HPZM, what you gain from them depends on your own level, to someone who is on a more initiatory stage in their Spiritual Satanic Path, a sermon or other spiritual text may appear very simple, because the writing does not really click with you yet since your consciousness is not receptive of the knowledge contained in the information.

I didn't include your persona to my message. So I politely reprimand you to stop acting like knight in golden armor.
HPC have his own mind to read or reply if he want. That's how fate works. Everybody have his own acts, decisions and consequences.
I doubt he need a kind of mortal "Guardian", who reply to not his own messages. Amusing, isn't it?
Why I didn't include you? Because you aren't targeted by me to understand. Quality of your reply about Who exactly I'm and how I act is enough valuable proof to reject my attention from your person. I don't have time for such pleasures like "argue and brawl with all".
My apologize.

#36
Absolutesaid:post: 1115783

I didn't write my respond to you, so stop

I didn't include your persona to my message. So I politely reprimand you to stop acting like knight in golden armor.
HPC have his own mind to read or reply if he want. That's how fate works. Everybody have his own acts, decisions and consequences.
I doubt he need a kind of mortal "Guardian", who reply to not his own messages. Amusing, isn't it?
Why I didn't include you? Because you aren't targeted by me to understand. Quality of your reply about Who exactly I'm and how I act is enough valuable proof to reject my attention from your person. I don't have time for such pleasures like "argue and brawl with all".
My apologize.

Don't mistake my response for an argument,

I am merely educating you over things that you misconstrue and falsehoods which you accuse High priest Zevios off which stem from your own lack of understanding. When I see something like this, I reply to educate and inform where understanding is lacking.

Since you are on a very low level of understanding, I replied to explain a few simple things to you that are going over your head.

Anyone can reply to you to do the same. This is going to happen when you speak on an open forum, especially when you speak falsehoods that need rectification.

Whether you actually learn something or not is ultimately up to you, however I will not let false conjectures stemming from exceptionally low levels of wisdom and understanding remain unanswered when I see them.

Hail Zeus Forever!
- Voice of Enki [SG]

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#37

Don't mistake my response for an argument,

I am merely educating you over things that you misconstrue and falsehoods which you accuse High priest Zevios off which stem from your own lack of understanding. When I see something like this, I reply to educate and inform where understanding is lacking.

Since you are on a very low level of understanding, I replied to explain a few simple things to you that are going over your head.

Totally agree, forum is public and everyone can reply, but a sucessfull conversation require two sides.
I didn't get curious about your reflection. - Sorry.
I will be fair. I didn't even read what you wanted to say.
I just felt what you stated - content, intention and value of it and righteously decided to reject it. I put my heart efforts to judge.

Reading require more time than feeling. When I feel something is valuable I fully prise it and read.
If I have enough patience I read some "low quality light statements", but not for me - for the others.
I know I won't save World alone and I'm not indestructible, but I want to share my joy, will, support and knowledge with worthy people. I'm proud of not being alone & about that Gods put their trust to me, so I have full support to do my responsible "black job" for all beloved existing lives - plants, animals, Gods and humanity.
Last category is the most heartbreaking - creating such grief and unnecessary brutalism. 😢

#38

When one begins their journey in Spiritual Satanism and the Path of the Gods, they do not immediately understand where it's going to end if adhered to properly. This ends in the Godhead, or the discovery of your own internal deified potential, powers and spiritual capacities.

One cannot even imagine it at first, so certain estimations are made that this or that would be the result. But the reality is, the end of this path far exceeds all of these expectations; but the "how" one will reach them, cannot be immediately decided when one has no clue what to expect or of what experiences it will entail in the first place.

One has to discover, learn and keep going. The path is for the most part "hidden", and even the words of others can help but it's not the same as one walking it for themselves. One must experience.

The last paragraph really got me.
Secondly I have changed my focus for this year. It's all encompassing, it's all because of this sermon and this sermon just reminds me the real reason I dedicated: it wasn't about material expectations, I wanted to be different, powerful, special, capable of truly helping in a world where people lied, faked miracles, fake wisdom, faked being godly, I wanted to be the light. The Truth, the Power, the representative. I must walk this road.
I also find out each time I'm focused like this, I'm happier, more sane. Now I'm with the family of truth and it's treasures, it's better.

HAIL ZEUS ♾️
HP ZEVIOS IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME! GREAT TEACHER WITH BIGGEST HEART FOR THIS FAMILY!
HAIL ZEUS!

#39

Quite a few times I had felt like certain lessons I learned evolved in their definition or application over time. I would learn a micro-skill, then later I would learn something new, and from these two lessons I was able to combine them in a manner that changed my approach to a given situation in a stronger way.

For us to make certain decisive actions in our life, such as a career upgrade, this can require an underlying bed of small changes that ultimately support and drive one larger one. In the moment, such smaller changes may not immediately have value, or perhaps we may not even feel a strong enough need to change our behavior. The tidal wave builds, so to speak, and this hits the energy requirement to make a breakthrough. For those with chemistry knowledge, I believe this mirrors in energy states of systems or molecular changes.

Earlier today I was making changes to my schedule and reflecting on how my previously learned experience with certain meditations and workings allowed me to make informed choices that someone just starting would have no clue about.

You're truly transforming. Your words hit with a different voice. I can sense it

HAIL ZEUS ♾️
HP ZEVIOS IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME! GREAT TEACHER WITH BIGGEST HEART FOR THIS FAMILY!
HAIL ZEUS!

#40
Absolutesaid:post: 1115448

Tittle is a kind of mistake. I hope so.
How do you even know how checkpoints and path to Godhood looks like?
Even if you tried to show people sort of "unknown" how it is:

I'd say you're right and wrong at the same time.
Much of your criticism is due to the fact that you don't know the Cobra High Priest exactly as well as you could.
Through capturing the essence of what he tries to say in various sermons, as far as possible.

I like his sermons because he teaches that the path has two parts, and not everyone knew or was aware of that.

Meditating is very easy

Now, adopting good habits and abandoning bad habits and working on the brain/mind is much more difficult than doing a power meditation.

Intellection is a good thing, but it makes us arrogant enough to be able to be receptive to messages, a reception from the Heart.

Even depending on the Heart, it's still possible to understand things through the intellect, you just have to put the right effort into certain aspects of the mind that I can't name.
Since it's all very intuitive.

You are correct in your motives, because I understand you in that respect.
Things are very simple, so we have to accept that there is nothing so transcendental or absurd, just accept the simplicity of things and that perhaps there is nothing beyond that.

I liked what you said about Saturn and Pluto

I particularly believe that Saturn is the concrete and true Reality and that the qualities of the other planets are just a limited way of translating reality (Saturn) through the filter of the mind.

So: love, war, wealth are all filtered illusions
The problem is that a lot of material is lost in the refinement and translation. Unfortunately, in order for humans to understand things, they have to dilute reality into very specific concepts.

... εἰ δὲ νοεῖς, ἔστιν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ϰαὶ σωμάτων ἀσώματα. — Ποῖα; ἔφη ὁ βασιλεύς. — Τὰ ἐν τοῖς ἐσόπτροις φαινόμενα σώματα οὐ δοϰεῖ σοι ἀσώματα εἶναι; — Οὕτως ἔχει, ὦ Τάτ· ϑείως νοεῖς, ὁ βασιλεὺς εἶπεν. — Ἔστι δὲ ϰαὶ ἀσώματα ἄλλα, οἷον αἱ ἰδέαι οὐ δοϰοῦσιν εἶναί σοι, ἀσώματοι οὖσαι, ἐν σώματι φαινόμεναι, οὐ μόνον τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀλλὰ ϰαὶ τῶν ἀψύχων; — Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Τάτ. — Οὕτως ἀνταναϰλάσεις εἰσὶ τῶν ἀσωμάτων πρὸς τὰ σώματα, ϰαὶ τῶν σωμάτων πρὸς τὰ ἀσώματα, τουτέστι τοῦ αἰσϑητοῦ πρὸς τὸν νοητὸν ϰόσμον ϰαὶ τοῦ νοητοῦ πρὸς τὸν αἰσϑητόν· διὸ προσϰύνει τὰ ἀγάλματα, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὡς ϰαὶ αὐτὰ ἰδέας ἔχοντα ἀπὸ τοῦ νοητοῦ ϰόσμου. ὁ οὖν βασιλεὺς ἐξαναστὰς ἔφη, Ὥρα ἐστίν, ὦ προφήτα, περὶ τὴν τῶν ξένων ἐπιμέλειαν γενέσϑαι· τῇ δὲ ἐπιούσῃ περὶ τῶν ἑξης ϑεολογήσομεν.