Part I. Evacuated Maria Oršić SS group meditating on Orion (Digital Art/Video of Zevism)

[MercuryWisdom]

So, I don't want to comment on the previous part of this discussion, just chiming in on this reply.

I realize how it might seem like what you're saying - that our recent transformation comes at a cost of authenticity and with the aim to accommodate the expansion efforts and the position of newcomers but actually it is the exact opposite. This aspect of our spectrum of existence that is being emphasized is only adding to our authenticity because it is who we really are. No one is acting or pretending especially not to gain numbers because those that belong in our fold will end up here regardless of details and circumstances.

I care very little for labels and appearances but still hold some emotional ties to being a satanist (in spite of all the unfortunate associations that it brings in the minds of the ignorant public), addressing our Father as Satan because of all the beautiful and strong realities like the all important Truth that it entails. At the same time it is important to acknowledge what our growth brings. Very simple yet simultaneously complex and nuanced. For me it all comes down to the eternal truth that is reality, more of which gets revealed to us along the way.

I sincerely wish that your inner conflict on this matter is soon resolved (and it surely will) so that it doesn't produce adversity and form impediments on your path, as well as for anyone who's still digesting these questions.

All the best

SWP

Thank you brother

 

[SoulSails13]

My apologies in advance if this post comes across as overly self centered. For me if this place was not being previously associated with national socialism, I most likely wouldn't have been so open to it. So I understand fully what Mercury's issue is, and why he responded the way he did.
Thankfully this didn't completely spiral out of control, and was clarified properly, which relieves me.

 

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

The problem here is that, if we are going to take the path of "fuck new people" Temple of Zeus is going to stagnate. We are aiming to become a global religion that people all over the world can resonate with so we need to be considerate of matters that are under international and moral scrutinity so to say (due to ongoing enemy control)

This is not to say that anything about Nazism should be "forbidden" in the public, that would be plain wrong, but we do need to find the fine line of balance in how we express publicly. I believe @Ol argedco luciftias has a strong point about the levels of information people should know depending on what level they are at. The truth about Nazism is something the majority of people in general are not ready to handle, which is mostly due to decades of enemy brainwashing.

The solution is not to create an obvious link and connection between Nazism and Zevism as a means of promoting either, as this will likely scare people away more than it will educate them, but a better approach might be to introduce people to this information when they are already aware and comfortable with the more "basic" facts, i.e. the Gods, spirituality, powers of the mind, enemy control etc.

Our main purpose at the end of the day is to create a connection between the Gods and people, everything else falls as a lower priority and as SG Blitzkrieg said, must be carefully considered as to not jeopardize our ability and potential to grow and reach as many people as we can because the more people we reach, the more powerful and influential our religion and movement will become on a global scale.

 

[Truth_Seekah]

Your idea of Maria Orsic, or ideas relating to Zevism, meditation, and other core beliefs of ours, are totally different from what the average person has been led to believe. If these concepts are simply presented as is to the general public, they will reject them, no matter how much you may try to logically explain.

We need people connecting to the Gods and meditation, which will give them the tools to truly have proper ideas about reality. Yet, this doesn't happen when they come here and see a large Nazi thread, as they will just leave. In that case, what benefit did either they or ourselves gain from that?

Our ideas are not camouflaged in a manner outside of our control or in a way that suppresses our inner beliefs, but how we present and interact with others determines how much they will understand and adopt what we already know is true.

I mean.. HPS Maxine spoke the truth and it worked great. I came from the public, i was one of those people who came to this ministry as a kid without any clue in mind on what truth was and it didnt stop me. Truth is truth. You're either telling the truth or making shit up and that's what people are searching for these days. If you have evidence to support your facts they are willing to listen if you can set up a proper audience and tone to encourage it.

 

[Truth_Seekah]

I mean.. HPS Maxine spoke the truth and it worked great. I came from the public, i was one of those people who came to this ministry as a kid without any clue in mind on what truth was and it didnt stop me. Truth is truth. You're either telling the truth or making shit up and that's what people are searching for these days. If you have evidence to support your facts they are willing to listen if you can set up a proper audience and tone to encourage it.

I should've also added. Didn't 90% of us all come from the time when HPs Maxine was around? Seems numbers are deflating now a bit.. but what do i know... ive only ran into more people who have walked away from the ministry than anything as of recently and it is absolutely sad.

 

[Truth_Seekah]

Just because you say this it doesn't make it respectful. You were indeed very disrespectful.
I know it's hard for people to make this change but we are Zevists which is a spiritual religion of the Gods, this is our main focus here from now on. Can you talk about Nazism and Satanism randomly to people on the street? No. Will they accept? No. Can you talk about ancient religions and Gods to people on the street? Yes. Will they accept? Maybe. Here is nothing different electronically, we are not meant to be a few thousands of people of the billions, but a recognized and accepted religion world wide.

Actually I have gone before some people in the public and helped passed a torch on some of these things and it has worked. I know this wasn't a comment towards me but I am a witness. More people are waking up, people want to know truth. They want answers. If you have evidence that says you are right what can they say? The only real problem I've ever faced when trying to pass a torch was when xians were asking me questions and then when I gave them evidence they couldn't refute they told me "have faith". Even with that being said they will do the same regardless even if you do hide it.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

The public awakenings of the world are directly because of the Gods, and the ritual schedules that we have been doing for all these years. As a couple years ago we have finished the Final RTR, that the entire structure of jewish magic has been erased. And the Race Awakening rituals, Gods rituals, and everything else. It is clear to see how all of the world has changed directly from these schedules.

Candace Owens has the largest podcast in the world right now, and every day she talks about the criminal jews lying, cheating, stealing, blackmailing, and emotionally manipulating to force the world to work for their jewish plans. Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes are leading the global conversations now, because of the spiritual pathways that have been opened and blockages removed by the Gods and our work with the Gods to make Truth come to the world. There is not any political group existing anymore that is supportive of the jewish crimes and they are receiving the reputation that they have earned for themselves for their centuries of genocides and crimes against humanity. I also am extremely thankful to Candace as a black woman who has a large black audience that she makes it perfectly clear that all of these jewish zionist criminals are not white, and they are entirely seperate from white people.

 

[Truth_Seekah]

The public awakenings of the world are directly because of the Gods, and the ritual schedules that we have been doing for all these years. As a couple years ago we have finished the Final RTR, that the entire structure of jewish magic has been erased. And the Race Awakening rituals, Gods rituals, and everything else. It is clear to see how all of the world has changed directly from these schedules.

Candace Owens has the largest podcast in the world right now, and every day she talks about the criminal jews lying, cheating, stealing, blackmailing, and emotionally manipulating to force the world to work for their jewish plans. Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes are leading the global conversations now, because of the spiritual pathways that have been opened and blockages removed by the Gods and our work with the Gods to make Truth come to the world. There is not any political group existing anymore that is supportive of the jewish crimes and they are receiving the reputation that they have earned for themselves for their centuries of genocides and crimes against humanity. I also am extremely thankful to Candace as a black woman who has a large black audience that she makes it perfectly clear that all of these jewish zionist criminals are not white, and they are entirely seperate from white people.

so you mean to tell me some bible thumpers are out there doing more work than most. If people are looking up to them they're gonna run right back into the same cycle. Fueling the same bullshit system. That was how they gained power, how they created a god that never existed in the first place.

She is promoting Christian bullshit and the people are seeing this and "turning to God". Nick Fuentes is sucking the catholic church like a 80s hooker would, over glammorizing..creating a system for people to get sucked into now. For the essence and life of our human people to get sucked into and drained to fuel their crap again.

Leading the spot, but at what cost? Maybe there should be atheist (at least, if people are scared to come out *1) out there exposing the lies of the churches and the bible and these dogmatic abrahamic systems so people arent getting sucked into that bullshit. Exposing the corruption in history while people are bringing a great light to the advancements of our ancient ancestors. The knowledge bestowed on them from the gods. While real history is getting taught.

Sayless. I'll work to get my voice out there more even if the shit cuts this one short. Alive or dead I know the gods are there with me and what ever test, what ever trial i have to face i am willing to do it for them, for our people, for the innocent. For those who were too weak to defend themselves.

*1) if the world was good and we are done with our work then nobody should be scared to come out. Go ahead show the world everyone has magick, show them the truth that our gods reveal to those the secrets of this world and its likeness for those who are worthy or are we keeping our mouths shut still? Are we still online telling others not to reveal our identies for our safety.... are we still suppressing truths about ourselves to fit in a crowded box we were never meant to fit in? A box designed as a trap for many. Because there isn't an enemy anymore right?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

so you mean to tell me some bible thumpers are out there doing more work than most. If people are looking up to them they're gonna run right back into the same cycle. Fueling the same bullshit system. That was how they gained power, how they created a god that never existed in the first place.

She is promoting Christian bullshit and the people are seeing this and "turning to God". Nick Fuentes is sucking the catholic church like a 80s hooker would, over glammorizing..creating a system for people to get sucked into now. For the essence and life of our human people to get sucked into and drained to fuel their crap again.

Leading the spot, but at what cost? Maybe there should be atheist (at least, if people are scared to come out *1) out there exposing the lies of the churches and the bible and these dogmatic abrahamic systems so people arent getting sucked into that bullshit. Exposing the corruption in history while people are bringing a great light to the advancements of our ancient ancestors. The knowledge bestowed on them from the gods. While real history is getting taught.

Sayless. I'll work to get my voice out there more even if the shit cuts this one short. Alive or dead I know the gods are there with me and what ever test, what ever trial i have to face i am willing to do it for them, for our people, for the innocent. For those who were too weak to defend themselves.

*1) if the world was good and we are done with our work then nobody should be scared to come out. Go ahead show the world everyone has magick, show them the truth that our gods reveal to those the secrets of this world and its likeness for those who are worthy or are we keeping our mouths shut still? Are we still online telling others not to reveal our identies for our safety.... are we still suppressing truths about ourselves to fit in a crowded box we were never meant to fit in? A box designed as a trap for many. Because there isn't an enemy anymore right?

I am not saying that Candace or Nick are perfect. I have seen some things from both of them, but I am not a regular viewer and have not seen everything from them. I am not endorsing them or saying that they are right about everything.

I only am saying that it is a good sign that now the largest shows in the world and the leading conversations are all about jews being evil and deserve to be held accountable for their centuries of crimes against humanity. These topics used to be hidden and private that most people did not know about or did not believe. Somebody's career used to be ended for even mentioning a crime done by jews. Now their guilt for their crimes is all returned to them for them to have the reputation that they deserve, which is direct result of our ritual schedules. I am just saying this is a very good sign.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I should've also added. Didn't 90% of us all come from the time when HPs Maxine was around? Seems numbers are deflating now a bit.. but what do i know... ive only ran into more people who have walked away from the ministry than anything as of recently and it is absolutely sad.

Our growth of new members joining is accelerating enormously. We are gaining more people than ever before.

 

[V12-POWER]

I disagree with a lot of opinions here. Make of this what you will. Joined in 2017 but was lurking since 2015. The Joy of Satan website and the Satanisgod.org domains (now Temple of Zeus and Zeusisgod) did not care about softening the truth. Aside from meditations and information of the human soul. You were greeted with harsh criticisms and above all, TRUTHS of the Jews, the Holohoax, Christianism, History and Sacred symbols.

The National Socialist party was a beam of light in a sea of darkness. There was no holding back in telling and saying things about Hitler, the Nazis, SS, etc. It was a brutal shock to be greeted with all this information. Those like me who only came for curiousity about meditations, saw all this. And we stayed and we never looked back at any other wannabe shit out there. Even when we were not completely in agreement (ignorance from the INDIVIDUALS perspective) We stayed and this grew from within.

I mean, some posts from HP Hooded Cobra and HPS Maxine from the era straight out told you to fuck off if you didnt like the facts...Maybe not the best tone, yeah, but that was as real as it could get.

Why now, in a moment in history where a lot of people truly despise jews, we need to say things like "Lets hold back cause new people might not like it". Doesnt this go against everything that makes us what we are? Catering to the weak minded, to the uninformed? I refuse to believe we are entering this kind of discussions when we should be PUSHING this more than ever. We arent a bunch of sensitive faggots. I and all of the old members here spent years doing rituals to fight the enemy and make the truth resurface. Not this, which is lame to be honest.

The National Socialist party succeeded because their goals were unmovable, because they did not care about the way they were seen; for they knew they were right. So im feeling rather sad that we come to this. Let people post things of the era, if its historically accurate, of course. Hitler is a God after all, he deserves all the recognition he can get.

As for the pictures, they arent bad but they are the typical AI kinda style. And Maria Orsic, well...

The beauty of this woman is from another planet, the kind that only exists in dreams, otherworldly indeed. These AI pictures of her just, you know...

 

[Helleniser]

Why now, in a moment in history where a lot of people truly despise jews, we need to say things like "Lets hold back cause new people might not like it". Doesnt this go against everything that makes us what we are? Catering to the weak minded, to the uninformed? I refuse to believe we are entering this kind of discussions when we should be PUSHING this more than ever. We arent a bunch of sensitive faggots. I and all of the old members here spent years doing rituals to fight the enemy and make the truth resurface. Not this, which is lame to be honest.

Imagine trying to persuade someone in real life while wearing an SS Uniform. Only a handful of people out of a thousand would listen to you.

But if you sat down with a thousand people and explained that history is not what we have been taught to believe it is, and used logical arguments and facts, you would persuade a few dozen people and would help others at least break some mental barriers.

You're right about now being the perfect time to get our message across. But if we had not made certain decisions, we would have been led to larger problems in the long run.