Pact with God

[diexell4]

Hey guys I did a blood pact with a god. One from the joy of satan of course. I did it with a evocation he showed me clearly he was there, but he had to go in the ritual. The next day I asked him again with a burning candle if he accepted it and the candle did a bang like air would be broken. His element is also air. So I know he accepted it 100%! The pact includes that the pact is only one month valid. He has in this month 4 oppurtunitys to do his part of the agreement. The first one is over so there are 3 left. My question is if I get a so clear sign from him that he accepts the agreement, does he do his part ? Because this sign was the best sign I ever got from a demon. Would a demon give me such a clear sign and then don't his part? That would make no sense for me why he should give me such a positive sign and then don't help me ? Because of this time limit im afraid that he probably don't do it. But I think if a demon uses his time to give me such a clear sign he wants that I know he helps me ? Is this right ? Im a little bit confused.I want to add I did a blood agreement because its sth really important for me I know oral would be fine.
What do you guys think??Ty you!!!
Hail satan!Hail demons of the hell from satan!!

 

[murat yekta bektaş]

Hi. Could you explain your pact in detail ? I wanna do same thing . I dont know clearly how can I do pact with Lucifer ? Please share your knowledges . TY  Hail SATAN
2017-07-08 10:50 GMT+03:00 diexell4@... [JoyofSatan666] :

  Hey guys I did a blood pact with a god. One from the joy of satan of course. I did it with a evocation he showed me clearly he was there, but he had to go in the ritual. The next day I asked him again with a burning candle if he accepted it and the candle did a bang like air would be broken. His element is also air. So I know he accepted it 100%! The pact includes that the pact is only one month valid. He has in this month 4 oppurtunitys to do his part of the agreement. The first one is over so there are 3 left. My question is if I get a so clear sign from him that he accepts the agreement, does he do his part ? Because this sign was the best sign I ever got from a demon. Would a demon give me such a clear sign and then don't his part? That would make no sense for me why he should give me such a positive sign and then don't help me ? Because of this time limit im afraid that he probably don't do it. But I think if a demon uses his time to give me such a clear sign he wants that I know he helps me ? Is this right ? Im a little bit confused.I want to add I did a blood agreement because its sth really important for me I know oral would be fine.
What do you guys think??Ty you!!!
Hail satan!Hail demons of the hell from satan!!

 

[hiroaugust1986]

I understand how you feel. I been through this as well.
Just have patience try to do other activities so you don't become overly anxious or even doubt the demon.
Believe me, its harder when your expecting or waiting for a demon to act but just do your normal meditations and fight the enemy. If they say they giing to help you then take their word for it.

I too know all too well! I am also waiting so I am coming from experience, I hope this helps even if it is very little. Keep your trust in Satan.

Hail Satan!

 

[yamans123]

Warning: i am not an advanced Zevism so those are just guess.
I think you wound receive signs if you look for them and if you can "see" them. Look for positive changes in the topic you asked for. As i think from my best teachers they were never full explaining themselves and to understand them you should add something from yourself. I think demons can do same if it is possible and if they think it would be better for you in your journey to advance. Also may i ask you what did you offered ıf its not personal? As i mentioned in my old posts i want to give something to a spesific demon without something in return like an offering.
Hail Father Satan!

 

[all me]

you can't sell your soul or make such a pact with Satan and his demons. Dedicating your soul to Satan isn't selling your soul or doing it for your desires in return. JoyofSatan recognizes Satan as the true god and knows that humanity is an unfinished project so we dedicate ourselves to our true god and dedicate to finishing his unfinished project and this is accomplished through spirituality; meditation, yoga, breathing excercises etc and raising the serpent of Satan up the spine to ascend and become as
The gods.

So don't expect a demon or a Satan to "do their " part for you desires in exchange for your worship or anything
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Hey guys I did a blood pact with a
god. One from the joy of satan of course. I did it with a
evocation he showed me clearly he was there, but he had to
go in the ritual. The next day I asked him again with a
burning candle if he accepted it and the candle did a bang
like air would be broken. His element is also air. So I know
he accepted it 100%! The pact includes that the pact is only
one month valid. He has in this month 4 oppurtunitys to do
his part of the agreement. The first one is over so there
are 3 left. My question is if I get a so clear sign from him
that he accepts the agreement, does he do his part ? Because

this sign was the best sign I ever got from a demon. Would a
demon give me such a clear sign and then don't his part?
That would make no sense for me why he should give me such a
positive sign and then don't help me ? Because of this
time limit im afraid that he probably don't do it. But I
think if a demon uses his time to give me such a clear sign
he wants that I know he helps me ? Is this right ? Im a
little bit confused.I want to add I did
a blood agreement because its sth really important for me I
know oral would be fine.
What do you guys think??Ty
you!!!
Hail satan!Hail
demons of the hell from satan!!










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[zolaluckystar1]

The Gods are very responsible. If one of them says they'll do something, they do it. Period.
This notion that the Gods would only do something on some kind of time limit is not correct. And it makes me wonder if you in fact, contacted one of Satan's Demons, or if you are being decieved by an enemy angel. The Gods don't do things on condition. The Gods see you trying your best and they help you. There are no 'conditions' in this sense. Yes, we make agreements with them and the one thing they want of us above any other is to put our efforts into helping with the fight. This is the best thing one can do.
Selling ones soul is completely alien to the Gods and to Father Satan. He has no need of slavish worship. This concept of 'selling ones soul' is Xian propaganda. It is not accurate. Satan doesn't need/want this. And nor do the other Gods.
And I don't think the Gods would put their help on some condition of a timeline. They help you, no matter where you are at (If you are truly Dedicated). This idea that they only will help you if it falls into some kind of timeline I think, is of the enemy. Out Gods are very generous with their time and help, they don't fix it onto some bloody timeline and if you 'fail' to match up to their expectation of the time, then they walk away.....NO. This isn't how they work.

 

[hiroaugust1986]

I also like to add is that I hope it goes well because, that kind of pact does not bode so well. From my experience it just ends one way and you end up more confused.

Like I said before just focus on meditations and Ritual.

The reason being is that it may be disguising itself and your unaware, especially if your not use to it.

Then again I'm not here to put you down or judge you just know if you make a pact like this and it doesn't work out, hopefully you learn from it.

 

[yamans123]

I dont think he/she tried to sell his/her soul but it seems like asked for something and offered something in return. We all know Satan and Demons willing to help us but the way he/she does is not disrespectful in my opinion. I think ıts like a pray but with an offering in the end.

 

[hiroaugust1986]

Yamans and Zola I agree with totally. Zola said a very important point how thet will not put a timeline or whatever on you. If they going to help just do your part, that is why I suggested Ritual,meditations.

Zola is usually right on these stuff from my experience.

Hail satan!

 

[all me]

You are not supposed to ask for something in return when you dedicate your soul to Satan. Again, it's not selling your soul or receiving benefits for your worship.

One thing people need to understand, Satan doesn't need your soul nor does any other demon.


The truth is, you need them, so they can guide you to spiritually advance your soul.


Satanism isn't about genies granting wishes or anything like that.
I suggest you fully read the website before asking any other questions so you can understand what Satanism is about.
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I dont think he/she tried to sell his/her soul but
it seems like asked for something and offered something in
return. We all know Satan and Demons willing to help us but
the way he/she does is not disrespectful in my opinion. I
think ıts like a pray but with an offering in the end.









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[zolaluckystar1]

I didn't say anything out of judging you or anybody, apoligies if I came off wrong on that. I don't think you did anything that was disrespectful or anything like that. I just wanted to help you see that our Gods don't do things in half measures. They don't put timeline conditions on us. Remember: these are incredibly advanced People/Beings/Gods who are immortal. So time to them is not what it is to us.
So when this timeline business was told, it made my red flags go off as this isn't how our Gods do things, and I wanted to point that out. I said it because I don't want you to be decieved by the enemy. They work really hard at trying to mislead and fuck up new people, who are vulnerable, well meaning, sincere but, vulnerable who are new and still in need of education.
My own experience with Satan's Demons is that they are very dependable and honest, and they don't fuck around or lead people off on tangents like: if you don't do something I want in the time I designate, then I'll abandon you. if you are a dedicated Zevism, then you are family and they will care for you and look out for you like family. They are really amazing!

 

[David Bo]

Yeah true.  Well, as I've been meditating and recalling my past, I've looked at all the minor little things that were clues that the Gods were there with me.  They are very patient as they knew it would take awhile before I recognized it was them.  As far as Timelines go, on the "other way around" the Gods do have the ability to get out of that "we are immortal and time is  different" by actually coming down to our level and helping us out with specific things.  But this happens more often only when we have built a very strong relationship with them and have been working with them harder than most.  A strong relationship and working constantly with them = a beacon bringing them to our physical level as far as Manifestations into the physical and time goes.



  I didn't say anything out of judging you or anybody, apoligies if I came off wrong on that. I don't think you did anything that was disrespectful or anything like that. I just wanted to help you see that our Gods don't do things in half measures. They don't put timeline conditions on us. Remember: these are incredibly advanced People/Beings/Gods who are immortal. So time to them is not what it is to us.
So when this timeline business was told, it made my red flags go off as this isn't how our Gods do things, and I wanted to point that out. I said it because I don't want you to be decieved by the enemy. They work really hard at trying to mislead and fuck up new people, who are vulnerable, well meaning, sincere but, vulnerable who are new and still in need of education.
My own experience with Satan's Demons is that they are very dependable and honest, and they don't fuck around or lead people off on tangents like: if you don't do something I want in the time I designate, then I'll abandon you. if you are a dedicated Zevism, then you are family and they will care for you and look out for you like family. They are really amazing!

 

[diexell4]

In the pact I painted by a evocation clearly the sigil of the demon on the paper. And also the demon was there he showed it clearly by the candle. The sign was the next day. My return is sex energy and sth private. I think a angel or sth cannot trap me in this situation because the god were in the room and I draw his sigil next to the condition, burned the paper and throw the ash into a field. 2 Chances are left. I don't know why he let me wait but I have patience. He could helped me earlier and then it would helped not only me more but also other spiritual satanists thats the reason im confused why he waits until the last option. 

 

[hiroaugust1986]

I been down this road. Hopefully this turns out in your favor but if it does not keep mediating.


From experience this only goes one way, just know what other comments pertain to your situation.
I know this all too well, just wait like you said and see.

Just know if the opposite happens you may get negative thoughts like leaving or giving up, just know we here on the Jos gave you some food for thought.
I can not and won't judge because I wasn't there in your ritual but I know from personal experience.

Lastly, you do sound convinced like I was cause you had all the signs that this is in fact legit but out of care we need you to just wait. Its your choice.

 

[hiroaugust1986]

To add , just listen to your self. Being confused is not a good sign. Reading your posts more thoroughly I can see that it is almost the end of the month. I would like to ask you a question.

Did you ask if the demon is from satan? If this month ends or the time line concludes then What? Upon witnessing all these signs what would you do when you don't receive what was asked?
If you asked it was from satan and still didn't receive what you asked would you leave?

I'm asking these questions sincerely because, these things happen and people tend to feel salty afterwards.

Hope it works out. )

 

[yamans123]

Also i would like to add something personal. When i pray to Satan or when i ask for something i always ask it if it is best for me and if it is right time for me to have it. We are all human at all and our desires may end up in tricky situations so i personally ask Satan to show me if i am in the right track. Its up to you i am just giving my opinion.
Hail Satan and All Gods of Elysium !

 

[hiroaugust1986]

No problems! @yamans


I see you feel connected to satan but I still would like you to keep your guard up because things may turn sour.
You may be young or not we can be vulernable to trickery. We can perform rituals and not get the desired result so we may quit or leave due to high expectations.

You see?

Not that I'm one to judge and say you spoke to him or not or your going to get what you ask for. It really depends. Know why? Direct experience is key here. And I think your additional thoughts are wonderful!

 

[diexell4]

I didnt asked if he she it is from satan. I focused on the sigil from the demon and a candle was lighted up. I asked him the second time as I talked with him (with the focus on the sigil) that if he agreed he should give me a sign pls. And then the thing I wrote about happened. The first time I talked to him I said the details from the agreement, what I will give him what he will give me. And over satan (the standard evocation ritual I asked him to come, then the flame gave me a clear sign that he is here. This flame sign is very rare and only there when a god came. If he wouldn't help me I say to myself he wouldn't came, because he knew the details before I evocated him. The thing is this I give this demon so much and also help the joy of satan community so I wouldn't know why he helps me. Two weeks left, we will see. I don't want to imagine what I would do when I don't help because why should he showed me he is there and came for the agreement...So I will think positive until the last day the agreement is over. 
Hail satan

 

[babyb00m]

The Gods have intelligence and knowledge beyond human comprehension. Your request can be granted in extremely unexpected ways. For example, when I was new I asked the Gods for help with freeing myself from enemy attacks. I was expecting a Demon to blast the enemy entities off of me. I ended up very disappointed because the enemy attacks continued and no Demon showed up to chase away the enemy entities. The Gods fulfilled the request by waking me up in the middle of the night after I had fallen asleep without meditating. By getting me to meditate consistently, I would empower myself enough to be able to free myself from the enemy attacks.

 

[hiroaugust1986]

That all sounds all to familiar so all I can say please wait and see. The reason why I say to keep your guard up because things may turn sour.

I love the idea of staying positive that is the way. I would just live my life and not worry. Hope it goes well btw! ?

 

[hiroaugust1986]

It all sounds good to me bro!

However I wish to say is I hope it works out because, the jos members say we all need to say if the actual demon is from satan because it can go wrong.

But however all you can do is wait and see. I ask to see if it was from Satan and I didn't receive. My point? If varies from person to person, this is why I can not judge. I just experience the situation differently and I felt I should give a dive because it can go wrong. I had all the signs like you had and i still disnt recieve them still. Am i bitter? Nope, just makes me think.


It just may not be your situation. Hope it bodes well!

 

[hiroaugust1986]

One last point just continue to love the gods and work on your self. I feel much better serving without expecting something and i feel like a weight is off my shoulders when i just mediate not worry excitable over what may or may not happen.
Of course this is how we humans are so we need to just wait.

I feel happier being with the gods! ?

 

[Raptor RokN Roll]

The lesson here is that when you make a request for help, to be very very specific.  The Devil is in the details.

 

[Elizabeth I Juarez]

I need this..how please

Elizabeth

  Hey guys I did a blood pact with a god. One from the joy of satan of course. I did it with a evocation he showed me clearly he was there, but he had to go in the ritual. The next day I asked him again with a burning candle if he accepted it and the candle did a bang like air would be broken. His element is also air. So I know he accepted it 100%! The pact includes that the pact is only one month valid. He has in this month 4 oppurtunitys to do his part of the agreement. The first one is over so there are 3 left. My question is if I get a so clear sign from him that he accepts the agreement, does he do his part ? Because this sign was the best sign I ever got from a demon. Would a demon give me such a clear sign and then don't his part? That would make no sense for me why he should give me such a positive sign and then don't help me ? Because of this time limit im afraid that he probably don't do it. But I think if a demon uses his time to give me such a clear sign he wants that I know he helps me ? Is this right ? Im a little bit confused.I want to add I did a blood agreement because its sth really important for me I know oral would be fine.
What do you guys think??Ty you!!!
Hail satan!Hail demons of the hell from satan!!

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[hiroaugust1986]

Encouraging ,@Johnson.

That seems to be a very inspiring experience. They help in their own ways not the exact way we want them to.

 

[hiroaugust1986]

@Elisabeth, continue to meditate and become closer to Satan. It is like any other relationship between two persons.

If you truly want to have such a relationship...meditate and even ask Satan for help and become aware of signs. Our dear brother/ sister Johnson's experience helps us to see that clearly. Just ask and wait for the gods. Just remember to be be aware. If your senses are not open to the astral then you could be receiving signs but your unaware.

 

[diexell4]

The worst case happened. Nothing happened. I got signs that he will  help me but nothing happened. Probaply It was because the pact was to unspecific but I said everything to him. I did a new one with one week left.  I talked open to satan and the gods that I don't like it how I get treated and that this pact is necessary for my spiritual advancement. I will offer this pact when again nothing happened other entities the enemy included.  They will help me for sure. So because satan and the demon don't help me they help indirect the enemy because they know I will go.... Was  a nice time..Its sad to leave all this but It has to be done...We will see if my last cry gets understanding.
satan 666

 

[hiroaugust1986]

Not trying to hurt you but, would like to add that if you feel you need to go to the enemy then go. Yeah I know it sounds harsh but only the strong survive man.
Remember this, if you do decide to go do know you left because you really didn't love Satan. You were with him because of what you wanted only.

Not going to force you BUT if your going to stay and see what happens then do so.

This is why you should not expect anything and just enjoy your spiritual development. When one expect so much they become so consumed that when reality hits them they sound like you my dear friend.
If you tried to just wait and see the result then you'll actually see something more marvelous.

 

[starduststreakoflightning]

I think he's trolling. First our gods don't do this kind of things. Second, you can't just demand them to do stuff for you. You got to earn their help. They're not your servants. If they wanted, they could crush you like a bug, because you're that compared to their might and spiritual advancement. But they don't, because they care about us and they want to see us walk among them like gods. Thinking of them like genies of the lamp is very disrespectful and in most cases you'll just be ignored. There's no such thing as them having to do something that's required for your advancement. No help is required. You can advance on your own, without any outside help. They can help if they feel like it and they will, but there's no obligation for them to do so. YOU are the one who should treat them better.
Face reality. Nobody will serve you spiritual advancement on a silver platter. NOBODY. Especially the enemy. They will pretend to help, while doing you countless damage. It's your life, buddy. You're either delusional at this point or you're trolling us. If you're delusional, you need to face reality and take your time to get accustomed to it. If you are an infiltrator, get the fuck out.