Our temple is no longer a place for freedom of expression

You are like someone who goes into a car show and sees a beautiful Ferrari and would love to own it, but would you even know how to drive it?
You want the things you want without the responsibility or accountability.
If you are not just whinging and making excuses, then get serious and meditate. Then you will advance, become more wise, and probably come back and apologise for your foolishness.

Why is it always the 2 month old accounts who act as if they are prominent and important members? Or pretend as if they have been here for many years? When everyone can see that the account is 2 months and 2 days old. Or act as if they are better than the High Priests or even the Gods themselves? Or work to defend trolls and enemy agents? Or work only to attempt to cause arguments and confusion?

As such a recent beginner, the focus should just be on trying to learn as much as possible. Not to instead try to tear down what has been built by greater men.

It is not necessary to answer these questions because it is already known.

Not all of the new members Ol argedco.
Some of us don't pretend, but are honest and truthful on our path with the Gods, and have genuine love for HP Zevios Matathronos and the community here.

Why is it always the 2 month old accounts who act as if they are prominent and important members? Or pretend as if they have been here for many years? When everyone can see that the account is 2 months and 2 days old. Or act as if they are better than the High Priests or even the Gods themselves? Or work to defend trolls and enemy agents? Or work only to attempt to cause arguments and confusion?

As such a recent beginner, the focus should just be on trying to learn as much as possible. Not to instead try to tear down what has been built by greater men.

It is not necessary to answer these questions because it is already known.

U haven't read that I just said, I was with JOS long time ago without account, but if you can't believe that people can create new accounts even if they've been initiated for a very long time, I feel sorry for you, whoever you are

Disagreeing with you doesn't mean they removed your freedom of expression. They didn't censor or ban you for saying that, did they?

I am also a Zevist, I was enitiated since childhood, all the yehubors all the abrahamists who attacked me are now thriving, healthy, and richer than me. The Gods didn't destroy any of them, but I finished only one with my own hands physically because i was run of my patience. The Gods are not babysitters they don't do all the work for us for sure and i can see that clearly. All the curses I did were useless and the Gods always responded to me only at the moment when I was looking for the truth but not punish the enemies and those enemies usualy muslims
Perhaps I'm motivated by resentment here because I see that enemies haven't been punished, but they continue to live totaly fine

and now I will explain the root of my resentment - why should the Gods destroy the trolls who attacked the others Zevists when they showed mercy to people who physically threatened me and slandered me for my views?

and now I will explain the root of my resentment - why should the Gods destroy the trolls who attacked the others Zevists when they showed mercy to people who physically threatened me and slandered me for my views?

but I haven't been angry with anyone for a long time and I don't want any revenge, these are all unnecessary emotions that are not worth my attention, and I even stopped paying attention to this injustice. I just focused on myself and my spirituality instead of fighting countless hordes of enemies, and since I gave up politics to the end and since I focused on myself and the gods, life has become much calmer

Free will is the individual judgement and action made within a given circumstance. Fate places us inside circumstances; free will determines our choices within such circumstances.

The Gods see the entire situation and to which extent the individual acted either due to free will or fate.

Then the question is, when we do the Nemesis Ritual for example, does Nemesis decide who to punish and how to administer justice? or are we taking the energy of Nemesis and channeling it in the right direction?

You act as if you know better than a Priest. A member of the Clergy. Think about that for a second.

Aside from maybe HPZM, I actually am for criticising everyone where necessary. Let's not create an environment where people become immune to criticism just because of rank. That's how you end up with personality cults. Notice how it was so hard for many of us to accept HPS Pythia was wrong about many things. Why do you want us to repeat the same cycles? Let people call out even clergy, provided they're not trolling or being assholes.

If you are interested in the truth, none of what you say is the truth. In reality, the Gods do mandate that we self defend ourselves. If one is walking down the street with their wife and they are attacked, one must defend their wife, not just say "Nemesis will handle it". Unless you live in wonderland, you would understand how these things work, and what true disrespect it is to the Gods, to heap human affairs on them and essentially by extending your irrationality, allow all injustice to reign supreme.

None of what you say, makes any objective sense. This also goes to show, how much confusion is heaped upon the line of no "mediators".

In the real world, there are two notions of justice; one is human action, the second is Divine. The latter concerns itself with very serious crimes, the first, must exist in order to keep a balanced society.

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This is very serious. If there are any public rituals to protect the temple, I'd love to partake. Cursed be such vermin.

It was explained to you before. What we safely ignore is someone who does a harmless prank, like puts a whoopee cushion on your seat. Someone who does an attack (attacks website integrity) cannot be safely ignored.

Further, it does not matter if you are "above them" or not. Yes, in most cases, a person who attacks is a lowly individual. However, because they attack, we have to defend. Their low status is not an excuse or shield for them hurting us.

Indeed Guardian. I am not on VT yet so I hope there's public rituals to curse the people doing these serious attacks.

The ritual against the enemies and those trols was performed by me, how do I know that they were punished and what if they're wont gonna be punished? because if they are not gona be punished, it will only confirm my words that the Gods are not interested in trolls and it's all just sophistry and waste of time

Hey brother, don't go down the path of disrespecting the Gods. They are absolutely very powerful. However, they created us with all our capabilities and so they certainly expect us to act like it. We can't just sit and let hackers and other scum attack us "because the Gods". I do believe the Gods can handle stuff beyond us and do, say state sponsored threat actors.

But we can't just let random enemies group up and attack us as they please. If you're walking down the street and someone attacks you, I expect you to knock them out. Same story here. I'm glad you joined in on the rituals. They absolutely work, anyone who's been around for at least a year knows that.

I hope you resolve your issues with the Priest brother.

Aside from maybe HPZM, I actually am for criticising everyone where necessary. Let's not create an environment where people become immune to criticism just because of rank. That's how you end up with personality cults. Notice how it was so hard for many of us to accept HPS Pythia was wrong about many things. Why do you want us to repeat the same cycles? Let people call out even clergy, provided they're not trolling or being assholes.

If you were part of the situation, you would not comment this way. Obviously, it was not about cultish behavior, but a legitimate call for action by the Clergy. Then a newbie comes along and starts "cricic" based on a lack of understanding of the situation. So much for that criticism. Quite honestly, I have yet to see much real reason for criticism. Minor things, mainly. Some things that will correct themselves as time goes by. Not something like the birth of a personality cult. Lol.

Aside from maybe HPZM, I actually am for criticising everyone where necessary. Let's not create an environment where people become immune to criticism just because of rank. That's how you end up with personality cults. Notice how it was so hard for many of us to accept HPS Pythia was wrong about many things. Why do you want us to repeat the same cycles? Let people call out even clergy, provided they're not trolling or being assholes.

actualy i made one mistake, i gonna write about that in another one article to say my appology

If you were part of the situation, you would not comment this way. Obviously, it was not about cultish behavior, but a legitimate call for action by the Clergy. Then a newbie comes along and starts "cricic" based on a lack of understanding of the situation. So much for that criticism. Quite honestly, I have yet to see much real reason for criticism. Minor things, mainly. Some things that will correct themselves as time goes by. Not something like the birth of a personality cult. Lol.

i repeat, i was with ToZ more than 10 years

Disagreeing with you doesn't mean they removed your freedom of expression. They didn't censor or ban you for saying that, did they?

U haven't read that I just said, I was with JOS long time ago without account, but if you can't believe that people can create new accounts even if they've been initiated for a very long time, I feel sorry for you, whoever you are

Yes this is the same story every time. Maybe it is true for you. In almost all other examples of people saying this, it is usually not true.

i know myself, i meet Nemesis, i've made my own conclusions. Moreover, even in the old JOS it was said that there can be no intermediaries between people and Gods. I admire the zevists and clergy, but the truth is more precious to me

You’ve met nemesis ..

U haven't read that I just said, I was with JOS long time ago without account, but if you can't believe that people can create new accounts even if they've been initiated for a very long time, I feel sorry for you, whoever you are

Not "with JoS", you were consuming what JoS was offering for free without contributing. At least being active in the social aspect, that is bare minimum contribution to people who handed you true spirituality on a silver platter.

"No intermediaries" = humanity can directly connect to the Gods, no chosen group, no Kagoim.

Not "no Priests ever, no mystery cults with bars for entry ever, no forbidden knowledge ever", this would mean that Pythagoras was not a real Zevist and neither were any ancient cultures.

This is protestant, individualistic, "me and my Bible" rhetoric, just for Zevism.

If you can advance just fine without the HoO materials, why whine about them?

Yes, in absolute theory, someone worthy enough who has advanced considerably would be directly given things like the Opening of the Mouth by the Gods.
You are not in that situation. The Gods already "gave you the Opening" in that you simply need to advance, do some money workings for a few years, contribute to the ToZ and show real allegiance, and get the Opening. Very simple.
Or keep going on your own "journey" "by yourself with no mediators", and stop bothering us with petty drama.

how do u know if i haven't lifted a finger? and why u act like another one troll? If you call yourself a Zevist, behave yourself, and if you don't know how to maintain a normal discussion, go back to kindergarten. and I don't understand this tendency to pester people's avatars, don't you have anything else to fuck about? Or is that the best you can do? there is nothing good in censorship and not when there is nothing good in it, if you start behaving like the Inquisition, you will descend to the level of the Abrahamic who burned witches at the stake, and you will understand that there is nothing good in censorship when u yourself one day become its victim, I wish you gonna experience that one day as well soon

And again, I wasn't defending the trolls. I was just talking about the measure and that cursing to death for spam is too much and after all i read that wrong way. If instead of discussing, you turn to trolling and censorship, that already speaks for itself. I'm not going to stoop to the same level. I will continue to act independently

Not all of the new members Ol argedco.
Some of us don't pretend, but are honest and truthful on our path with the Gods, and have genuine love for HP Zevios Matathronos and the community here.

True, my account still says new but ive been around for over a decade. I also cant react with anything except for thumbs up to posts 🤷