Order of the Dragon - it existed before Sigismund and 1408?

[Serbon]

I came across some information about this, and I want to hear your opinion:

1. Miloš Obilić - Son of a dragon
Miloš Obilić was a serbian knight, who died in 1389 in the battle of Kosovo Polje, defending Serbia from the ottoman invasion. He got famous for bravely killing the ottoman sultan Murad the First.
Miloš was known as "Zmajević" translated as "The little dragon" or "The son of a dragon", just like Vlad The Impaler (Dracula).
This shows something interesting, was Miloš's father part of the Order of the Dragon? Remember, this was way before 1408.

2. Serbian medieval knight's plate armours

It was very common of high ranking serbian knight - BEFORE 1408 - to have dragon symbols on their helmets.
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But even after 1408, the order was highly respected among Serbs, becoming a part of both our oral tradition and poetry.

Stefan Lazarević, who also was a knight of the order, made a new symbol for his dynasty and Serbia:

Dragon with a symbol of Nemanjići dynasty

 

[RED DAWN]

I came across some information about this, and I want to hear your opinion:

1. Miloš Obilić - Son of a dragon
Miloš Obilić was a serbian knight, who died in 1389 in the battle of Kosovo Polje, defending Serbia from the ottoman invasion. He got famous for bravely killing the ottoman sultan Murad the First.
Miloš was known as "Zmajević" translated as "The little dragon" or "The son of a dragon", just like Vlad The Impaler (Dracula).
This shows something interesting, was Miloš's father part of the Order of the Dragon? Remember, this was way before 1408.

2. Serbian medieval knight's plate armours

It was very common of high ranking serbian knight - BEFORE 1408 - to have dragon symbols on their helmets.
-------
But even after 1408, the order was highly respected among Serbs, becoming a part of both our oral tradition and poetry.

Stefan Lazarević, who also was a knight of the order, made a new symbol for his dynasty and Serbia:

Dragon with a symbol of Nemanjići dynasty

"...becoming a part of both our oral tradition and poetry.", you're Serbian?

I'm not familiar with the order, though I asked about it and apparently "Miloš Obilić" was a xian involved in a historical battle near Kosovo. It's a myth, and even the myth has nothing Zevist about it. That's about it.The order of the dragon was for the most part a xian organization.

 

[Serbon]

"...becoming a part of both our oral tradition and poetry.", you're Serbian?

I'm not familiar with the order, though I asked about it and apparently "Miloš Obilić" was a xian involved in a historical battle near Kosovo. It's a myth, and even the myth has nothing Zevist about it. That's about it.The order of the dragon was for the most part a xian organization.

Yes, I am Serbian

The battle is not a myth, the assasination of murad isn't a myth aswell.

There are many historical figures that were Zevists but for which enemy claims otherwise (Rasputin, Vlad Dracula,...)
I think it's either Mageson or HPHC that wrote a sermon on the order a few years ago, it was a Zevist order.

 

[RED DAWN]

"...becoming a part of both our oral tradition and poetry.", you're Serbian?

I'm not familiar with the order, though I asked about it and apparently "Miloš Obilić" was a xian involved in a historical battle near Kosovo. It's a myth, and even the myth has nothing Zevist about it. That's about it.The order of the dragon was for the most part a xian organization.

Yes, I am Serbian

The battle is not a myth, the assasination of murad isn't a myth aswell.

There are many historical figures that were Zevists but for which enemy claims otherwise (Rasputin, Vlad Dracula,...)
I think it's either Mageson or HPHC that wrote a sermon on the order a few years ago, it was a Zevist order.

figure of the past, well I have bad news for you in that case. Your government is preparing to criminalize occult practices and materials. It's odd since criminal occult organizations like the black rose don't even exist anymore.

 

[Serbon]

"...becoming a part of both our oral tradition and poetry.", you're Serbian?

I'm not familiar with the order, though I asked about it and apparently "Miloš Obilić" was a xian involved in a historical battle near Kosovo. It's a myth, and even the myth has nothing Zevist about it. That's about it.The order of the dragon was for the most part a xian organization.

Yes, I am Serbian

The battle is not a myth, the assasination of murad isn't a myth aswell.

There are many historical figures that were Zevists but for which enemy claims otherwise (Rasputin, Vlad Dracula,...)
I think it's either Mageson or HPHC that wrote a sermon on the order a few years ago, it was a Zevist order.

figure of the past, well I have bad news for you in that case. Your government is preparing to criminalize occult practices and materials. It's odd since criminal occult organizations like the black rose don't even exist anymore.

They already criminilazed it in 2016 I think

 

[F_For_Flamingo]

Hail Brother!

Our history was heavily distorted and perverted.

My personal belief ist that the order of the Dragon was established long before 1389, but christianity has destroyed all the information about it.

One such example is the "saint george kills the dragon" a representation of christianity killing the Kundalini in the people.

Since most of the information is gone, it would be best to open your astral senses and ask the Gods directly(can't do that yet myself).

Sorry i can't be of any help but if i find some information about it i will definetly share it with you here.

Hail Father Satan!
Hail Mother Lilith!
Hail Biffrons!
Hail Guardian!

 

[F_For_Flamingo]

"...becoming a part of both our oral tradition and poetry.", you're Serbian?

I'm not familiar with the order, though I asked about it and apparently "Miloš Obilić" was a xian involved in a historical battle near Kosovo. It's a myth, and even the myth has nothing Zevist about it. That's about it.The order of the dragon was for the most part a xian organization.

Yes, I am Serbian

The battle is not a myth, the assasination of murad isn't a myth aswell.

There are many historical figures that were Zevists but for which enemy claims otherwise (Rasputin, Vlad Dracula,...)
I think it's either Mageson or HPHC that wrote a sermon on the order a few years ago, it was a Zevist order.

figure of the past, well I have bad news for you in that case. Your government is preparing to criminalize occult practices and materials. It's odd since criminal occult organizations like the black rose don't even exist anymore.

Hail!

Im curious, where did you get this information?

 

[Victorian]

Yes the order of Dragon was Zevist in nature.... Dragon represents kundalini....

 

[Epiphany]

Yes the order of Dragon was Zevist in nature.... Dragon represents kundalini....

I was enamored with dragons when I was a kid. I never saw them as just giant flying lizards that breathe fire like others saw them, and I could never see the "serpent" in the bible as just a representation of a biblical boogeyman. There was something especially magical about them, but I couldn't find out why or what it was, until I found the ToZ and realized what they represent.