The Gods Need answers from People of knowledge on Satanism V.S other religions

[TruthSeekerLegend]

I am a free soul, I only seek the truth, and I want peace and happiness for everyone. I have read the spiritual satanism page, and I have a few questions, since as you say, satanism allows free thinking and questioning. For context, I come from Muslim background, though I was never spiritually practicing it, but I do have general knowledge than average Muslim. I am NOT preaching anything, just stating what's on my mind.

1. On “living life”​

You say Satan wants his followers to “live life to the fullest” with full pleasure, yet history (or your own life) shows unrestrained lust destroys families, spreads disease, fuels greed, and corrupts societies. If something leads to harm, how can it be called good or “freedom,” when even basic logic and morality demand self-control for true well-being? Sure, you may say Satanism does not explicitly encourage these extremes, but this appears only on the surface, because underneath, every practice rooted in serving desire over discipline ultimately leads to moral decay, spiritual emptiness, and self-destruction. We are taught that our desires will never satisfy us. The forum here is full of depressed people, is it because they are seeking something their own nature is against it? if reflected on this, it would mean that Satan is promising nothing but delusion?

2. On “Satan as Creator”​

You claim Satan/Enki is the “True Creator” of humanity through genetic engineering. If he is the creator, why is there no preserved, consistent revelation from him throughout history, while Allah’s message has remained intact in the Qur’an for over 1400 years without alteration?

3. On “Freedom vs. Tyranny”​

You present Satan as a liberator from “tyranny,” yet you describe pledging commitment to him and working under demons’ guidance. How is dependence on demons true freedom, while worshiping Allah Who asks for no mediators, not for angels, humans, or demons - only him is labeled slavery?

4. On “Knowledge Suppression”​

You say religions like Islam/Christianity suppressed “true spiritual knowledge,” but Islam historically led the Golden Age of science, mathematics, and medicine, while the rest of the world was in the dark ages. How do you reconcile that with your claim that Islam’s purpose is to destroy knowledge? Did you know that the first word that was reveled to the prophet of Islam was 'Read'.? The God of islam is always encouraging learning,reflection on the creation of existence, be aware of one's self and that we should detach from the 'neediness' of other's or anything that is material, and you can see this clearly in the Sufi Muslims, who's only need and want is love and prosperity. They possess powerful spiritual connection with Allah.

5. On “Morality and Guidance”​

If Satan “has nothing to hide” and promotes freedom, why has his worship historically been associated with secrecy, hidden orders, and moral corruption, whereas Allah’s guidance in the Qur’an is openly recited in every mosque daily?

6. On “Gods as Extraterrestrials”​

You say the “Original Gods” are advanced extraterrestrials. If they were truly godlike, why do they have needs, limitations, and the ability to “lose battles” as you claim Satan did, qualities that contradict the very definition of God? in Islam, the creator is not begotten, is not created, is not born, doesn't have needs, does not get tired, he is everywhere, inside us.

Thank you in advance and appreciate your guidance.

 

[Hárbarðr]

Hello. First of all your questions are based on outdated knowledge. Are you are aware that we are the Temple of Zeus and are called Zevists now?

And you are putting all your questions in quotes which makes it impossible to quote.

Anyway:

1. On “living life”

Your argument is a strawman. We do have ethics. If you look on the website there is an entire ethics section. However, controlling everything harms and stifles people. Most people today who are doing drugs e.t.c. are pushing to the other extreme because they were oppressed by oppressive religions.

Also a counterpoint: those Abrahamic religions who claim that no rules cause "evil" are the ones which have mass murdered millions to force their beliefs. Islam is especially the bloodiest religion of all of them, even your Quran is full of verses condoning mass murder and other horrible things:

Skeptic's Annotated Bible / Quran / Book of Mormon

www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

If you are defending Pisslam, you are the least one to talk about "morality" as it is easily the cruelest and most violent religion ever existed.

No Pagan or Satanist or Zevist ever committed all those atrocities that Shitslam ever committed in all history.

No Pagan or Zevist advocates marrying a 9 year old like your pedophile prophet did, according to the autentic hadith Sahih Bukhari. So spare me your talk about "morality" because your religion is the most immoral.

2. On “Satan as Creator”

Your argument here is a non-sequitur. A shitty book doesn't mean anything. Indeed, if the age of a book and whether something is written there meant anything then the Vedas being the oldest books mean that Vedism is the true religion. What are you waiting for? Convert to Hinduism since you believe that!

Another reason why your argument is retarded is that we are not blind-faithers who look to a blind faith book to have blind faith. We unlock our astral senses and communicate with the Gods directly. You are talking about delusion yet you really advocate having blind faith in a book. Can you contact "allah" directly and ask him if the Qur'an is true? My question is rhetorical of course, because "Allah" doesn't exist. Many of us can and do contact our Gods directly.

3. On “Freedom vs. Tyranny”

That's a non-sequitur again. It's also a strawman. No one ever said that Zeus is like Allah, a monotheistic god. Zeus and rhe God's purpose is to guide us on the advancement of our sould. They don't want or need blind worship. Blind, slavish worship and obedience to an external being is slavery, tyranny. Which is exactly what shitslam advocates. Even its name means submission. Imagine that!

4. On “Knowledge Suppression”

Another strawman. You realize that by knowledge we mean occult, esoteric knowledge like magick and stuff about inner knowledge of the soul, right? Seriously, you need to read the site more.

5. On “Morality and Guidance”

Blame the Abrahamic religions for that. The reason we were secret all those years bis because we have been heavily persecuted and murdered by your intolerant religions. I mean, not only do you persecute us, forcing us to hide our beliefs but then you have the audacity to claim that the fact that we hide because of your persecution is something bad!

6. On “Gods as Extraterrestrials”

Nobody said that we use the same definition of god as you do. Again you should pay more attention to the site as it has explained all that

 

[Hárbarðr]

Read this website first before replying to my post, as it proves Islam is a vicious, evil hoax:

Islamic Evil – Showing the Truth about the Evils of Islamic Culture

islamicevil.com

 

[Hárbarðr]

I am a free soul, I only seek the truth, and I want peace and happiness for everyone.

Also, drop your Taqiyya because we can see past it. You're not a "free soul", you are an Islamic proselytizer. I've seen you on X/Twitter commenting under HP Hoodedcobra's and other non-muslims' posts trying to push Islam. If you were free open minded you would question Islam first and foremost before going to a small forum to use typical islamic apologist arguments to try to prove Islam is better than us. I've argued with hardcore muslism, they use the exact same arguments as you.

You're probably an extremist muslim trying to push Islam to people whom you think are "sinful" according to your psychopathic religion because you believe you are scoring brownie points with Allahshole and you will get like 72 virgins after you die.

 

[Hárbarðr]

Your argument is a strawman. We do have ethics. If you look on the website there is an entire ethics section. However, controlling everything harms and stifles people. Most people today who are doing drugs e.t.c. are pushing to the other extreme because they were oppressed by oppressive religions.

Regarding that, you also seem to take the entire freedom thing and make it as if that it's all we're about.

It's true that everyone is accepted here and is free to follow their nature. But we do have a higher purpose. We're not Laveyans. You're not arguing with Laveyans here who think the whole purpose is hedonism only. Everyone here works to transform and improve themselves.

This social chaos you said is caused by people who think hedonism is the ultimate purpose and there is nothing more than fulfilling our personal desires. We don't think that, so this argument is irrelevant.

Moreover you took the example of some newbies who are depressed (and they probably misunderstand our purpose here. You should really read my posts where I reply to people who want to use a spell for changing every minor thing instead of changing themselves first, I do not condone that sort of thing) and make it as if they represent everyone here. Why don't you find examples of long-term members, clergy and guardians here? Nobody of them is depressed.

Transforming your soul and balancing your chakras makes you happier in general. Power meditations and working to improve your soul is the main practice here. You can easily see a difference even doing them only for a couple of months.

It's also true that focusing only on desires can make you depressed, however also suppressing them is very damaging psychologically.

This is a basic psychological fact. Any religion that tells you to suppress your desires creates psychological problems and even worse, can make you a very unstable and insane person. Suppressing sexuality is the worst: if you do that you create Islamic rape gangs (like in Britain and other European cities, again blame your evil religion for that) and Catholic pedophile priests.

 

[OttoHart]

I'd answer if there weren't 50 strawman fallacies in every question. Getting a headache just for reading this.
This is not someone genuinely "curious", it's just someone trying to catch us.

Someone actually curious wouldn't leap to conclusions like this person does ("you say God teach and guide, but this tyranny, you say tyranny bad, what give?").

This is just a bunch of word salad, assuming this word must mean this specific definition, and a bunch of projecting.
Take this garbage to a christian debater, we have better things to do.