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[destroyer]

I’ve escaped the Abrahamic religions and the non-Protestants only to end up here in a labyrinth.
If in those other religions I felt crucified, here I feel like I'm in a cage.
I want to follow my own laws, not those of the clergy or the universe. I want to follow my own path and my passions, not those of the clergy, the community, or the gods—regardless of whether they exist or not, I don't care, because it is my life, not the life of one of you, or the universe’s, or Maat’s, or Isfet’s, or any other man-made fantasy.
It is my life; an Alpha cannot be controlled by another Alpha.
I want to look at the sky and say, "It's the best day to go out with friends and have fun," or "It’s a beautiful day, I need to enjoy it."
I don't want to look at the sky and say, "Oh wow, Ra brought the sun to the sky, but he couldn't bring me a win or a bit of luck."
I don't want you to take all these things too seriously; I just kindly ask you to exclude me from this site, and that is all—p
lease.

 

[Asra]

Can you elaborate? What doesn't the Clergy let you do? Also ToZ doesnt forbid you from having hobbies or going out with friends. You also don't have to go spam 20 rituals of Ra per day. As you can see the platform where group rituals take place isn't labeled as mandatory or anything like that.

 

[destroyer]

Can you elaborate? What doesn't the Clergy let you do? Also ToZ doesnt forbid you from having hobbies or going out with friends. You also don't have to go spam 20 rituals of Ra per day. As you can see the platform where group rituals take place isn't labeled as mandatory or anything like that.

I just want to be excluded, so I can stop thinking about all these things and forget them

 

[Asra]

I just want to be excluded, so I can stop thinking about all these things and forget them

Well, if there's no way for you to re-think this, what's stopping you from logging out and closing the tab? There's no one keeping you here by force.

 

[Asra]

Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely tell you to stay. But if you're not going to accept second opinions or friendly advice, I don't see the purpose of making a post, just to stir up replies.

 

[destroyer]

Can you elaborate? What doesn't the Clergy let you do? Also ToZ doesnt forbid you from having hobbies or going out with friends. You also don't have to go spam 20 rituals of Ra per day. As you can see the platform where group rituals take place isn't labeled as mandatory or anything like that.

It’s not for me, brother. I am that 'drugged man with a chained soul who cannot see the gods'; I have involuntary tremors because of the drugs that serve ISFET.
Gambling winnings do not represent the laws of Maat, so I never obtain them.
My magic doesn't work because I don't know how to perform magic, even though I follow all the rules necessary to produce a spell. My passions are just a birburim or something like that, which is part of yehuborim, so I should set them aside.
And as someone chasing more wealth, I am once again defying the laws of some sage—a law that also belongs to Maat. I am an anthropodic animal driven by impulses, who must become human and perhaps, in 65,749 years, reach the level of the clergy through long meditations.
These are just a few of the things the website has conveyed to me about myself lately. What do you think? It’s a chaos, a labyrinth in which my mind gets lost, and that is why I want a self-exclusion.

 

[destroyer]

Well, if there's no way for you to re-think this, what's stopping you from logging out and closing the tab? There's no one keeping you here by force.

That is exactly what I was thinking about, and that is what I am going to do starting right now.

 

[Darkspirit]

Either you want or not you are connected to all these you mentioned and more. You live by the laws of the Universe, you can't escape.
You live with people, if you don't want to have God/Gods the others will choose for you.
Yehuborim, Birburim...ect will exist everywhere, either you want to see it or not.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Your “own laws” are just what your genes, environment and chart programmed you with.

Following Ma’at which is just being of an ordered character is simply about freeing yourself and abiding by Divine principles that will give you true freedom.

By not being spiritual you’re ensalving yourself, not freeing yourself.

Your karma, blockages and astrological influences are still there whether you believe in them or not.

I recently started practicing the bandha for the root chakra granthi that HPS posted and a lot of rage that I felt from work just dissapeared, and I feel calmer in general as now the energy circulation is better.

Try the bandha for the root chakra and you’ll see for yourself the results.

 

[Asra]

Still, if there are things you need help with, you can share them. Create a thread, or, if they're personal, use the Ask Zeus service. I'm sure there are many members in this community that would gladly answer your questions, or share their experiences.

Just so you know, ToZ has always said members should have a personal life and not use religion as a form of escapism or create their entire personality around it. So friends, hobbies, missions - those are encouraged. Maybe it's a misunderstanding on your side. If you do end up leaving, know you can always return in the future. No one is cursing, banning, or indirectly forcing you to meditate or do rituals. ToZ just gives you knowledge, aka tells you how to do them. Ultimately, it's your life, you have free will, and you can choose not to. The only consequence will be that, while others advance, you won't get the benefits that those who are consistent with them get.

 

[AFODO]

I want to look at the sky and say, "It's the best day to go out with friends and have fun," or "It’s a beautiful day, I need to enjoy it."

That would be very good yes, do so. Nobody said not to do.

I don't want to look at the sky and say, "Oh wow, Ra brought the sun to the sky, but he couldn't bring me a win or a bit of luck."
I don't want you to take all these things too seriously

You are not condemned to do so. These develop by themselves not by force. Or maybe in your case, never. And that is fine. You don't necessary have to go out and the first thing you must think about is wow how good it is that the Gods made Earth and me so I can be here, in order to be a Zevist. These should not come out of blind fate, nobody expect you to be like this out of blindness, especially not the Gods, these will come with experience and advancement.

Zevism proposes a system of ascent so you can ascend in the cosmic order. Everyone is part of the cosmic order, this is not something "we came up with" or the Gods, it's there by default, by the nature of existence. Same as in a company, if you work at a company you are part of a rank in the company. If you exist, you are part of the cosmic order.

Zevism suggests to ascend in this system, but for some, they might not want this. That's fine. This system, that was given by the Gods, is not enforced, and more so, it is adjusted to every level. You don't have to be ultra religious as a beginner. As a newcomer, or someone who doesn't understand these things you don't have to. As a High Priest, yes, this is your life, but not by force, but by nature and own will.

At your level you can just meditate, or do yoga, or whatever is content with your level and confort. You can also not partake in anything because nobody forces you. The Gods give you complete freedom over this.

So my question is, what do you want? Do you want to advance spiritually? Do you want to advance in anyway? Because if yes, this place is the right place. If you don't want anything currently and completely content with your current state and life, than it is likely that the Zevist path, as of now, is not for you. Just like it's not for many billions of people.

 

[Asra]

It’s not for me, brother. I am that 'drugged man with a chained soul who cannot see the gods'; I have involuntary tremors because of the drugs that serve ISFET.
Gambling winnings do not represent the laws of Maat, so I never obtain them.
My magic doesn't work because I don't know how to perform magic, even though I follow all the rules necessary to produce a spell. My passions are just a birburim or something like that, which is part of yehuborim, so I should set them aside.
And as someone chasing more wealth, I am once again defying the laws of some sage—a law that also belongs to Maat. I am an anthropodic animal driven by impulses, who must become human and perhaps, in 65,749 years, reach the level of the clergy through long meditations.
These are just a few of the things the website has conveyed to me about myself lately. What do you think? It’s a chaos, a labyrinth in which my mind gets lost, and that is why I want a self-exclusion.

What exactly are you trying to escape by leaving the ToZ? Stripping the spiritual terms aside, your problems are drug addiction and gambling. Whether you ignore the Maat-Izfet framework or not, these problems will remain, even after you leave the Temple, because they're material.

The issue is not the Temple. It didn't create your problems. The Temple just named them and specified their source. You can cleanse these from your life. You aren't condemned to be forever enslaved, the way you describe yourself. You seem to be harsh on yourself. You also don't have to be the level of clergy to get rid of these problems, and you don't have to start with long meditations. You need a daily routine, on which you can build once you're consistent, starting with short sessions. Getting good at magic is something you can improve by meditating and practicing it. If you're currently not advanced enough, then you could use a direct, physical approach to your problems, until you can create the desired impact spiritually.

Also, building wealth is something encouraged here. You're not defying any law.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

It’s not for me, brother. I am that 'drugged man with a chained soul who cannot see the gods'; I have involuntary tremors because of the drugs that serve ISFET.
Gambling winnings do not represent the laws of Maat, so I never obtain them.
My magic doesn't work because I don't know how to perform magic, even though I follow all the rules necessary to produce a spell. My passions are just a birburim or something like that, which is part of yehuborim, so I should set them aside.
And as someone chasing more wealth, I am once again defying the laws of some sage—a law that also belongs to Maat. I am an anthropodic animal driven by impulses, who must become human and perhaps, in 65,749 years, reach the level of the clergy through long meditations.
These are just a few of the things the website has conveyed to me about myself lately. What do you think? It’s a chaos, a labyrinth in which my mind gets lost, and that is why I want a self-exclusion.

I think you need to get over the xian programming.

Clergy and Guardians have both said that making a lot of money is not only NOT against spirituality but it’s actually a virtue.

Gambling is a shitty way to make money.

Your magick doesn’t work because your soul is full of dross and blockages. A car that’s full of soil and crap covering the engine and pipes and with wheels full of holes isn’t going to work. Fix the car first before you can drive.

I think you can probably make money from gambling with magick but you need a powerful soul for that. Probability is still a thing and gambling games are meant to make the host money, the host wins most of the time and gives the winners a fraction of what he earned through zero risk.

This is why learning what granthis are is important, and yoga especially.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Heroes must step forward and children must sit on the bench. Enough "discourses" on you eternally having to accept you are worthless and others having to come to tell you "It's okay". I tell you with all my heart that I believe in you and I believe in you FOR REASONS I KNOW VERY WELL - But still you want to take 5 years out of your life, to condemn yourself that you cannot do X and Y, because you want the COMFORT OF STUPIDITY - But this STUPIDITY is not yours, so GET OVER IT. It's NOT okay for us to be worthless.

You can either continue this self-loathing or start loving yourself and making improvements.