Meditations for beginners? and questions

Yoga can warm your body and theres outside and download meditation pdfs there are 3 i think

Here's some good important things you can do just sitting there silently.
Invoke Akasha
Chakra spin https://templeofzeus.org/EZ_Chakra_Spin.php
Pineal https://templeofzeus.org/Pineal_Meditation.php
3rd eye + pineal https://templeofzeus.org/Opening_The_Third_Eye.php
Double Serpent https://templeofzeus.org/Serpent_Meditation_II.php

And for cold room, I know these ones really work.
Expand the sushumna for more heat https://templeofzeus.org/Heat_meditation.php
and invoking fire

Here's some good important things you can do just sitting there silently.
Invoke Akasha
Chakra spin https://templeofzeus.org/EZ_Chakra_Spin.php
Pineal https://templeofzeus.org/Pineal_Meditation.php
3rd eye + pineal https://templeofzeus.org/Opening_The_Third_Eye.php
Double Serpent https://templeofzeus.org/Serpent_Meditation_II.php

And for cold room, I know these ones really work.
Expand the sushumna for more heat https://templeofzeus.org/Heat_meditation.php
and invoking fire it matter in which way you rotate the chakras?

Does it matter in which way you rotate the chakras?

However you feel is best.

Does it matter in which way you rotate the chakras?

However you feel is best.

Thank you bro.

Here's some good important things you can do just sitting there silently.
Invoke Akasha
Chakra spin https://templeofzeus.org/EZ_Chakra_Spin.php
Pineal https://templeofzeus.org/Pineal_Meditation.php
3rd eye + pineal https://templeofzeus.org/Opening_The_Third_Eye.php
Double Serpent https://templeofzeus.org/Serpent_Meditation_II.php

And for cold room, I know these ones really work.
Expand the sushumna for more heat https://templeofzeus.org/Heat_meditation.php
and invoking fire are you fucking serious? You recommend a total beginner to Invoke fire?!
This is an advanced meditation! The advanced aspect of pyrokinesis!
You know it is „advanced“ for a reason right?

Here's some good important things you can do just sitting there silently.
Invoke Akasha
Chakra spin https://templeofzeus.org/EZ_Chakra_Spin.php
Pineal https://templeofzeus.org/Pineal_Meditation.php
3rd eye + pineal https://templeofzeus.org/Opening_The_Third_Eye.php
Double Serpent https://templeofzeus.org/Serpent_Meditation_II.php

And for cold room, I know these ones really work.
Expand the sushumna for more heat https://templeofzeus.org/Heat_meditation.php
and invoking fire are you fucking serious? You recommend a total beginner to Invoke fire?!
This is an advanced meditation! The advanced aspect of pyrokinesis!
You know it is „advanced“ for a reason right?

Dude are you fucking serious? You recommend a total beginner to Invoke fire?!
This is an advanced meditation! The advanced aspect of pyrokinesis!
You know it is „advanced“ for a reason right?

I'm guessing that you haven't personally tried invoking the elements yet and that's why you seem to be overreacting? And by the way, this isn't "advanced pyrokinesis" that's a completely separate page underneath. This is just plain simple element handling, not some advanced extra high level element handling. This is the very basics of it. It isn't my fault that the elements are under the column that says "Advanced" on it, if they were in the "Intermediate" column you wouldn't care. But I think the Intermediate column was already too full, so it looks nicer to put things in a third column. Does this scare you? Just simply being slightly to the right on the page? Because that is also where "Tuning Chakras Through Vibration" is, and I consider this to be probably the single most important thing for beginners to do, after opening the chakras. Also the same column as "Breathing light into your pineal" and "Spinning your chakras fast" Are these meditations too scary and dangerous for anyone to have a little try, because they're in the "Big bad Advanced column"? Would you be so scared if I recommended Water? Or Air? What's the difference, all the elements work together. All the elements have equal potential to be a bit uncomfortable or even dangerous if misused. And all of them are perfectly harmless, even for total beginners, if they just try a little bit.

You just assume that it's something difficult or dangerous, when it really isn't if you're at least a little bit careful. I didn't say do it in huge amounts. There's warnings on that page to go slow with it and start a little at a time, so I expected him to respect these warnings and go slow which is perfectly safe. I don't really believe in those types of limitations, "You aren't allowed to try this because it says advanced on it" I never restricted myself from trying anything like that, I started as an absolute beginner trying everything especially the stuff that says advanced. There isn't anything unsafe about invoking a little fire as long as you start slow and don't do it too often. Invoking the elements is perfectly safe, unless someone is willfully ignoring the warnings and doing way too much more than it recommends. I suggest everyone to at least try all the elements. There really isn't anything on ToZ that you can't try. If something is too much for you, all that will happen is you will simply feel that it's too much and you won't do it anymore, but there's no harm in trying. The only possible harm would only come from repeatedly overdoing something way past the point that you already feel that it's too much. But there isn't anything wrong with testing your boundaries or trying something new. It might even be exactly what you needed.

And this isn't some meaningless idea from me with no basis either, as a very beginner, I have invoked way too much fire before. I mean literally the month that I found the website. It was somewhat on purpose, I knew I was going way past the recommended amount of breathes, and I wasn't breathing it back out. The worst that could happen is just being really hot and uncomfortable for a little while, but then it's obvious to invoke water to balance it out. Then maybe feel a little weird for a couple days, I mean emotionally from the big increase of fire and water. But you balance it out and you're all good. As a total beginner, I invoked too much of all the elements at some point. But this was never from doing the number it recommends on the page, the only discomfort was only ever from doing much more than recommended. I'm definitely NOT recommending to do what I did, but at the same time I think of it as a harmless learning experience. Nothing but some temporary mild discomfort for a short time. And I personally know from this that it is totally harmless if you at least have the common sense to listen to the recommended number of breathes. Starting small how it says to and just getting a feel for the elements, it's not only harmless, but it's important just to get a taste for them.

And I know from personal experience, if you are in an very cold environment you can easily keep yourself warm by expanding the sushumna and invoking fire. He said he actually can't be in his room because it's so cold, this is the way to fix that.

Everybody should read every single link on the meditations page, and judge for themselves what you are ready to try. These meditations often work together, being on a slightly different side of the page doesn't mean you shouldn't try it. NinRick, I think you should take a couple breathes of fire, or any other element of your choosing, just to see it really is absolutely harmless if you start small. There isn't much reason to make any sort of limitation "You can't try this yet." The only way to see where a boundary is is by taking a bit of a step towards it, there's nothing wrong with this.

Dude are you fucking serious? You recommend a total beginner to Invoke fire?!
This is an advanced meditation! The advanced aspect of pyrokinesis!
You know it is „advanced“ for a reason right?

I'm guessing that you haven't personally tried invoking the elements yet and that's why you seem to be overreacting? And by the way, this isn't "advanced pyrokinesis" that's a completely separate page underneath. This is just plain simple element handling, not some advanced extra high level element handling. This is the very basics of it. It isn't my fault that the elements are under the column that says "Advanced" on it, if they were in the "Intermediate" column you wouldn't care. But I think the Intermediate column was already too full, so it looks nicer to put things in a third column. Does this scare you? Just simply being slightly to the right on the page? Because that is also where "Tuning Chakras Through Vibration" is, and I consider this to be probably the single most important thing for beginners to do, after opening the chakras. Also the same column as "Breathing light into your pineal" and "Spinning your chakras fast" Are these meditations too scary and dangerous for anyone to have a little try, because they're in the "Big bad Advanced column"? Would you be so scared if I recommended Water? Or Air? What's the difference, all the elements work together. All the elements have equal potential to be a bit uncomfortable or even dangerous if misused. And all of them are perfectly harmless, even for total beginners, if they just try a little bit.

You just assume that it's something difficult or dangerous, when it really isn't if you're at least a little bit careful. I didn't say do it in huge amounts. There's warnings on that page to go slow with it and start a little at a time, so I expected him to respect these warnings and go slow which is perfectly safe. I don't really believe in those types of limitations, "You aren't allowed to try this because it says advanced on it" I never restricted myself from trying anything like that, I started as an absolute beginner trying everything especially the stuff that says advanced. There isn't anything unsafe about invoking a little fire as long as you start slow and don't do it too often. Invoking the elements is perfectly safe, unless someone is willfully ignoring the warnings and doing way too much more than it recommends. I suggest everyone to at least try all the elements. There really isn't anything on ToZ that you can't try. If something is too much for you, all that will happen is you will simply feel that it's too much and you won't do it anymore, but there's no harm in trying. The only possible harm would only come from repeatedly overdoing something way past the point that you already feel that it's too much. But there isn't anything wrong with testing your boundaries or trying something new. It might even be exactly what you needed.

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Now reading this you are probably right , I overreacted. It‘s like you say if you go nice and slow nothing bad should happen.
I overreacted because it says that it is potentally harmful and advanced.

Now reading this you are probably right , I overreacted. It‘s like you say if you go nice and slow nothing bad should happen.
I overreacted because it says that it is potentally harmful and advanced.

No problem brother, It's a good thing that you're so careful. I just think you're never too early to try any of the meditations. None of them are too powerful to even try. Because if it's too much, it'll be obvious and you just don't do as much next time. And if you try something that you thought before might be too advanced for you, you might find it was exactly what you needed. It might slow people down too much if they are worried about getting to the next step, even if they're ready for it. The worst that could possibly happen from overdoing a meditation you aren't ready for is just feeling overloaded, but then you just give the extra energy back to Satan or your guardian and everything's good. The only possible real harm would have to come from repeatedly doing something all the time long after you already felt that it's way too much to handle.

One thing important with elements, don't do extra if you can't feel it at first. Because especially with beginners, you usually start to feel the elements hours or even a day after you invoked it, and it all hits at once. This is how people get really uncomfortably overloaded. Which is equally uncomfortable no matter which element it is, just that they work different ways. So stay close to the recommended number. If you want to do extra, remember to breathe them back out.

Now reading this you are probably right , I overreacted. It‘s like you say if you go nice and slow nothing bad should happen.
I overreacted because it says that it is potentally harmful and advanced.

No problem brother, It's a good thing that you're so careful. I just think you're never too early to try any of the meditations. None of them are too powerful to even try. Because if it's too much, it'll be obvious and you just don't do as much next time. And if you try something that you thought before might be too advanced for you, you might find it was exactly what you needed. It might slow people down too much if they are worried about getting to the next step, even if they're ready for it. The worst that could possibly happen from overdoing a meditation you aren't ready for is just feeling overloaded, but then you just give the extra energy back to Satan or your guardian and everything's good. The only possible real harm would have to come from repeatedly doing something all the time long after you already felt that it's way too much to handle.

One thing important with elements, don't do extra if you can't feel it at first. Because especially with beginners, you usually start to feel the elements hours or even a day after you invoked it, and it all hits at once. This is how people get really uncomfortably overloaded. Which is equally uncomfortable no matter which element it is, just that they work different ways. So stay close to the recommended number. If you want to do extra, remember to breathe them back out.

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Wait... Did you just Jedi Mind trick him?

Youre over reacting, waves hand. Youre right I over reacted.

Astonishing.

Wait... Did you just Jedi Mind trick him?

Youre over reacting, waves hand. Youre right I over reacted.

Astonishing.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Can't argue with a mix of a strong soul and perfect logic :D

Wait... Did you just Jedi Mind trick him?

Youre over reacting, waves hand. Youre right I over reacted.

Astonishing.

*Waves hand* You don't need to see my identification.

We don't need to see their identification.

OP, any meditation in the beginner section will do just fine.

Aldrick, this is a skill you need! :lol: If you just use the force on people, you can avoid some of these arguments you've gotten in. :lol:

I almost always completely agree with you, but some times the whole "I'm the alpha male and if you don't agree with me that's just because you're an angry little boy" thing, to some people it kinda gets in the way of your message. But with me, I got a way of more gently showing them my side of it. Like which of these below is better?

:o Well you're just WRONG little boy! :twisted:

or

:D I'm right, this is why and how I'm right, and now that you see it like this both of us are right! :D

Because with some people, they get so hung up on the way that the message is presented that they get all defensive and skip over and ignore what your message really was to begin with.

But Aldrick, there is one thing you are wrong about. Hail Mother Lilith's / Flaming Red Rose's thread about Memorable Experiences With Our Gods, just ignore it. I understand that's just your kind of humor and you don't really mean anything bad, but at the same time one thing that really bothers me and most of us here is when I see an important thread being clogged up with all kinds of meaningless worthless bullshit that doesn't belong. This is such an important topic for everyone to share their stories, and so everyone can have a better understanding of the personalities and works of our gods, and it really just isn't the place for someone going on and on with different comments just to say
8-) :x "I'm a big boy now and I'm going to keep talking if I want to!" :x 8-)
If it was some low-level topic it wouldn't matter much what you write, but that one is too important it's not meant for your crying.

Wait... Did you just Jedi Mind trick him?

Youre over reacting, waves hand. Youre right I over reacted.

Astonishing.

Aldrick, this is a skill you need! :lol: If you just use the force on people, you can avoid some of these arguments you've gotten in. :lol:

I almost always completely agree with you, but some times the whole "I'm the alpha male and if you don't agree with me that's just because you're an angry little boy" thing, to some people it kinda gets in the way of your message. But with me, I got a way of more gently showing them my side of it. Like which of these below is better?

:o Well you're just WRONG little boy! :twisted:

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If I may make a suggestion, the second one sounds less asshole-ish.

The whole "I'm the alpha male and if you don't agree with me that's just because you're an angry little boy, or retarded shit, or whatever" just puts people off, and creates the response of "Well fuck you, I'm gonna do what I wanna do, and if you don't like it, you can suck my ass"

Also, @Ol argedco luciftias did HML really change her name to Flaming Red Rose? It's like everyone wants to change their username. I tried to create a new one under the name of "Shadow" but apparently that's taken, and "Wolfsschanze" is just my producer's alias so...

Now reading this you are probably right , I overreacted. It‘s like you say if you go nice and slow nothing bad should happen.
I overreacted because it says that it is potentally harmful and advanced.

No problem brother, It's a good thing that you're so careful. I just think you're never too early to try any of the meditations. None of them are too powerful to even try. Because if it's too much, it'll be obvious and you just don't do as much next time. And if you try something that you thought before might be too advanced for you, you might find it was exactly what you needed. It might slow people down too much if they are worried about getting to the next step, even if they're ready for it. The worst that could possibly happen from overdoing a meditation you aren't ready for is just feeling overloaded, but then you just give the extra energy back to Satan or your guardian and everything's good. The only possible real harm would have to come from repeatedly doing something all the time long after you already felt that it's way too much to handle.

One thing important with elements, don't do extra if you can't feel it at first. Because especially with beginners, you usually start to feel the elements hours or even a day after you invoked it, and it all hits at once. This is how people get really uncomfortably overloaded. Which is equally uncomfortable no matter which element it is, just that they work different ways. So stay close to the recommended number. If you want to do extra, remember to breathe them back out.

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Wait... Did you just Jedi Mind trick him?

Youre over reacting, waves hand. Youre right I over reacted.

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How can I argue with someone about invoking fire while I have 0 experience with invoking and while he is speaking from experience? :lol: He is probably right that invoking fire wont harm too much. Also the „do not limit youself“ got through me haha

Also, @Ol argedco luciftias did HML really change her name to Flaming Red Rose? It's like everyone wants to change their username. I tried to create a new one under the name of "Shadow" but apparently that's taken, and "Wolfsschanze" is just my producer's alias so...

Yes. Sinistra was saying stuff like she shouldn't go around impersonating a goddess, so she changed it.

My 2 cent opinion.

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If FRR is upset (or whatever) with Aldrick, I think she can resolve things by herself and doesn't need a lawyer to defend her lol.

Another thing. Everyone here is fucking FREE " :evil: :twisted: " to express their opinion (in a respectful, decent way), whether you like the way its written or not.
If someone is sensible or something similar, cannot blame a member for expressing their honest opinion.

Yes. Sinistra was saying stuff like she shouldn't go around impersonating a goddess, so she changed it.

I don't get it. How is "Hail Mother Lilith" an impersonation? That's called tribute, not impersonation.