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Managing (and Mastering) a Prominent Neptune

AvatarHigh Priestess Lydia Coventina9 min to read

There are 6 indicators of a Prominent Neptune in a natal chart, some charts may have a combination of a few of these:

-Pisces Ascendant (Neptune is a chart ruler)
-Neptune in the 1st house (Neptune is a chart ruler)
-Neptune conjunct an angle (such as in the 12th house but conjunct AC, or conjunct DC, MC, IC)
-Neptune is retrograde (Rx)
-Neptune on a critical degree
-Neptune conjunct a chart ruler

In the beneficial way, some people have a prominent Neptune from past life spiritual and/or artistic/musical development. In the destructive way, some people have it from a past life of drug abuse (laudanum addiction, opium in the form of snuff boxes, alcohol, etc, were very prevalent in the past few centuries); or other causes.

Neptune rules spirituality, creativity, art, music, inspiration, meditation, psychic phenomena, the ethereal, idealism. But also deceit, deception, insanity, illusions, delusion, confusion, being lost in fantasies.

Neptune has no form, is vague, misty, and drifts away. Which is also why it’s enticing, because human nature enjoys mystery. Most of us are drawn to things unknown. We like exploring what might be out there, and this is what leads to spiritual development.

But having a prominent Neptune can be dangerous. People have drifted aimlessly through life, succumbing to drugs and alcohol and escapism, never making anything of themselves, never growing. Neptune, by its very nature of confusion and delusion, is difficult to manage. It’s difficult to realize what is happening or how lost you are or might get.

But if you master your Neptune, you can have spiritual abilities and artistic skills, as well as being more functional in other areas of your life.

The way to do this is to allow Neptune to have its reign, while sublimating the harmful tendencies of it into a beneficial form through expression relating to Neptune and Venus. Neptune is the higher octave of Venus. Venus gives form, and expresses in a refined, beautiful, and harmonious way. Neptune cannot be allowed to be ugly, as that will be destructive, and disconnects it from Venus.

Development and refinement of talent is supposed to happen, this is the natural course. Otherwise you will stagnate your growth, and growth must continue. This is how we evolve as individuals and as a civilization.

Methods to manage your Prominent Neptune:

-Meditation. Not always the structured power meditation of vibrating mantras, but trance, which should be done daily. Take care of your soul and develop it, connect to your Guardian Demon for advice tailored to your individual practice.

You can get crystals and meditate with the crystal. Feel the energy. This can be very beneficial for those who are susceptible to drug use, wanting to feel altered states. You can get altered states with meditation, and crystals all have their own energy, which can be very enjoyable to feel. You can get into a state where you feel like your physical body is the crystal, with your mind completely in tune with the crystal. No mantras required, just trance with the crystal.

-Learning art. If you think you don’t have any artistic talent, this is fine! People with artistic ability developed their talent from learning it in their past life, or inherited it from their parent or grandparent who learned and developed it, and then they further developed it. Everyone starts somewhere, and everyone can learn to draw or paint or sculpt. I mean that- anyone can learn. It just requires consistent practice. Consider it a form of meditation, which is it, because it helps make the left-brain dormant and allows the right-brain to activate.

But the key is to actually learn. Don’t just take a pencil and start randomly drawing then give up because it looks worse than a 5 year old’s attempts. Look for tutorials online (countless videos are free), books, or a class in your location. Learn, and keep learning and practicing.

-Learning music. You listen to music and enjoy it, but when you learn some basic music theory, a whole new world opens up. It can be enjoyable to learn to read music, seeing the notes on sheet music and finding the patterns and pulses. Get an instrument, or learn to sing (your voice is an instrument), something you feel drawn to, and learn the basics. Just don’t go all out and spend a lot of money on what you think is the best instrument, only to realize you don’t enjoy it and want to try something else. Get a cheap option, then reward yourself with a better one after 6 months or so of continuous practice. The point is to learn music, not trying to sound professional right away, which you won’t anyway.

Even if you have no aim to play professionally, just learning some basics will expand your mind, and start putting your Neptune into form. This is why I recommend learning to read music, the basics of which can be learned in a week. It gives form to the music, and will give you the ability to understand melody and rhythm in a further conscious as well as subconscious way. And there is a childlike sense of fun when you learn a new song, as well as the intellectual enjoyment of learning how it is performed.

Spend some time learning music, and some time freely making your own music. You can go into a meditative state and just play the random notes that feel right to you in the moment. This might take some months of attempts, but consistently trying this will help to unlock your creativity, while allowing your prominent Neptune to express itself in a way that allows for talent to develop.

-Dancing. Learn actual dances, the steps, and learn to time your steps to the music. You can also do free-form intuitive dancing to music that helps you get lost in the moment, maybe even get some ambient lighting to add to the atmosphere of it, but learn some real dances as well. If you can’t attend a class, you can find tutorials online and practice by yourself at home, for that creative outlet, while also improving your physical fitness at the same time.

-Creative writing. Turn your daydreams, fantasies, and idealism into written art. Instead of just sitting there aimlessly daydreaming, sit in front of your computer and write them down. And then, go over what you’ve written and edit to improve it. Learn how to write, learn how to be engaging in your storytelling. It might take some years, but you will develop a viable skill, and improve your communication ability along the way. You might even get it published, but at the very least, you will embark on a journey of self-discovery and creativity.

The key is to actually learn something for yourself, and keep working on it. Don’t just observe it. Don’t just keep listening to music or appreciating art passively. Learn something relating to Neptune, and consistently work on it. This will activate the creative ability of your soul, and sublimate the negative tendencies of the planet into beneficial personal growth in the form of development of talent, which also leads to expansion of your mind.

Consider it a life-long practice. Don’t think you need to perfect your skill in one month only to give up because you didn’t meet your unrealistic goal. Adopt your new artistic interest as part of your identity, make it a part of who you are, and keep practicing and developing and refining it for the rest of your life.

I would also advise people with a prominent Neptune to do something Neptunian first thing upon waking. If you immediately go on your phone or take in the news of the day, subjecting your mind to negativity or anything that affects you in a bad way, this can bring you down for the entire day. Neptune is easily inspired, but also easily distraught. Focus on something inspiring such as listening to enjoyable music or practicing art or reading an engaging book instead. If you live with people who bring you down, consider getting in the habit of waking up earlier than them to have quiet time to yourself and meditate or listen to music, then practice art, for example.

A problem with prominent Neptune is being highly sensitive. This sensitivity can be used for good (spirituality, empathy, compassion, etc), but it can also be harmful to you. You will need to develop the strength to overcome or ignore a lot in life. The world we live in is very corrupt and degenerate, don’t let it affect you or drag you down. This inner strength is built in small part from life experience, but mainly from spiritual advancement and getting closer to our Gods. Let anything that may harm you, brush past you like it’s in the wind. Put your mind to what is important to you.

One final point to touch on: Idealism. Prominent Neptune likes the thought of sacrificing for the good of something. The Gods want you to live your life, it’s why we are here. They do not want you to shut off from the entire world just to work on art or meditation. Find other areas of your life that you need, and work towards your goals. Any area you struggle with, you have all the tools you need to overcome it.

Two additional methods which greatly help manage prominent Neptune, albeit not for creative expression:

-Yoga, which helps to connect the soul to the physical body, allowing for development of the soul through the physical body.

-Physical exercise is also very beneficial, as it connects you to the physical realm and improves mental health. Work on improving your physique and feel mentally better. Make sure you are eating well enough to fuel your body for exercise, otherwise you might feel depleted, which people with prominent Neptune are more susceptible to.

May all of you with a prominent Neptune develop your creative and spiritual talents in the most fulfilling way for you, under the guidance and will of our Gods.

[The above methods can of course be practiced by anyone, and these practices will help to develop the abilities of the right brain hemisphere.]

#62

Hi HPS Lydia. So I guess with Libra rising and Venus conjunct Neptune and Uranus in the 3rd house on the same degree it fits your example. Would you say that quitting caffeine is a wise choice? I feel like I have too many thoughts on my mind.

Try yerba mate if you need caffeine, it has a smoother effect than caffeine from coffee. But try decreasing it anyway, most people don't need as much as they think they do, and drinking more water will help with alertness as most people are dehydrated to an extent.

Hello HPS Lydia!

May you give us hint about managing other Retro transcendental planets (Uranus,Neptune and Pluto) as well?

I will soon :)

#63

Try yerba mate if you need caffeine, it has a smoother effect than caffeine from coffee. But try decreasing it anyway, most people don't need as much as they think they do, and drinking more water will help with alertness as most people are dehydrated to an extent.

In addition to water, adding electrolytes is essential. Most people lack these as well. @Pzvx

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#64

Andras did not cause damage to your sister or her fetus. Why would he? Regardless, I am glad you have a good relationship with him and I hope you develop it further.

It was just a thought that's why I texted IF I know he didn't

To me, you are the most hateful of all gods who hold Olympus... Were you of some other god and prove so ruinous, long since would you have been dropped beneath the gods of the bright sky".

-Zeus to ares

#65
sailhatan88(new account)said:post: 1133683

It was just a thought that's why I texted IF I know he didn't

Ans only reason why I thought it was. A Possibility was because my roommate at the time who is my sisters boyfriends brother kept complaining about my sigil banners in my room on the wall especially andras's sigil I know I was extremely upset at my sister over calling me telling me to take it down it did not mean ANY disrespect towards him in my post or make him look bad i just wanted to glorify him didn't care to hear your opinion about it either( i shouldn't have posted about it),I just thought maybe it was a possibility but I'm glad to Be reassured he didn't do that to my sister even he would have it wouldn't have made me think any different about him I'm going to try and delete the post because I really don't care too see the negative feedback from it from any of you thanks this is why I usually don't post on here due to getting opinions I didn't care to hear (tho that's one of the whole reasoning of posting Is to get others opinion about stuff)

To me, you are the most hateful of all gods who hold Olympus... Were you of some other god and prove so ruinous, long since would you have been dropped beneath the gods of the bright sky".

-Zeus to ares

#66

Andras did not cause damage to your sister or her fetus. Why would he? Regardless, I am glad you have a good relationship with him and I hope you develop it further.

You are obviously a really respected person on here I wanted to apologize to you for any negative attitude I may seem like I had towards you in my post I apologize Ill try not to post on here about my experiencesor what I thought was the case but thank you for the reply I don't Want to ever create disunity on here which Is why I don't post usually cause I'm to hateful half the time and noone on here wants to see that shit

To me, you are the most hateful of all gods who hold Olympus... Were you of some other god and prove so ruinous, long since would you have been dropped beneath the gods of the bright sky".

-Zeus to ares

#67

I'm sure many of you are aware but the Templeofzeus. Website is down

To me, you are the most hateful of all gods who hold Olympus... Were you of some other god and prove so ruinous, long since would you have been dropped beneath the gods of the bright sky".

-Zeus to ares

#68

There are 6 indicators of a Prominent Neptune in a natal chart, some charts may have a combination of a few of these:

-Pisces Ascendant (Neptune is a chart ruler)
-Neptune in the 1st house (Neptune is a chart ruler)
-Neptune conjunct an angle (such as in the 12th house but conjunct AC, or conjunct DC, MC, IC)
-Neptune is retrograde (Rx)
-Neptune on a critical degree
-Neptune conjunct a chart ruler

In the beneficial way, some people have a prominent Neptune from past life spiritual and/or artistic/musical development. In the destructive way, some people have it from a past life of drug abuse (laudanum addiction, opium in the form of snuff boxes, alcohol, etc, were very prevalent in the past few centuries); or other causes.

Bump

#70

Thank you High Priestess Lydia.🙏🏻

#71

Can we simply do a freeing the soul working of negative Neptune karma/influence.?

#72

Can we simply do a freeing the soul working of negative Neptune karma/influence.?

For the negative problems, yes. But some people had great talent in past lives and are now sadly misguided and wasting the energy on escapism instead of continuing with art, music, etc.

Removing, is not always the solution.

#73

For the negative problems, yes. But some people had great talent in past lives and are now sadly misguided and wasting the energy on escapism instead of continuing with art, music, etc.

Removing, is not always the solution.

Thank you HPS

#74

For the negative problems, yes. But some people had great talent in past lives and are now sadly misguided and wasting the energy on escapism instead of continuing with art, music, etc.

Removing, is not always the solution.

Is possible that in other past lives I had a great talent for writing, for example, and in this present life I have lost and forgotten it. I have never used drugs, but all my life I have felt aimless in this aspect and have never managed to find my professional vocation.

#75

Is possible that in other past lives I had a great talent for writing, for example, and in this present life I have lost and forgotten it. I have never used drugs, but all my life I have felt aimless in this aspect and have never managed to find my professional vocation.

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