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potgieterjennifer

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Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet. What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
Well, he is my Guardian too. I do not know him as well as I would
like, because I only found out he was my guardian a few months ago and
i am not very advanced yet, psychically, so cannot hear his voice. But
from the little I have experienced with him thus far, I can tell you
that he is very kind and thoughtful. He has sent me hellhounds to
protect me, when angels have attacked me. And I have felt his presence
a few times; he has a very powerful, yet warm and calming energy. As
long as you are respectful, he will be so with you as well. And as for
him saying you are not ready to see him in a dream, it pretty much
means just that. You are not yet ready to have a dream of him, for
whatever reason. Lol. The Gods know, though, so do not press him
unduly for visions of himself in a dream. When the time is right, you
will see him in a dream. I have been a dedicated Spiritual Satanist
for almost five years now. During that time I had been wanting to know
who my Guardian Daemon was so so very, very badly. I kept asking
Father to just tell me, or for my Guardian to reveal him/herself to me
somehow. And I got nil. But just like 7 months or so ago, I finally
came to know that it was Lord Andras. I had been drawn to posts about
him lately, and I had always thought he was a neat Daemon and had been
interested in perhaps meeting him, but it just had taken me a hwile to
connect the dots, so to speak. And now, at last, i know that it is he
who is my protector, my guardian and friend. I feel so very honoured
and privileged to know that such a great and powerful god such as my
Lord Andras thinks that I am special, and worthy of his help and
attention. He is truly wonderful, wise and beautiful! I am so blessed
in Satan...Hail Father Satan always! Hail my mighty Lord Andras!

On 3/18/13, potgieterjennifer <potgieterjennifer@... wrote:
Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other sigils, I
asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I can find about
him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also asked him if I could
see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet. What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer" <potgieterjennifer@... wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet. What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
He really means your not ready yet. Do you know how awsum he is? Like he won't try to scare to but his energy on this plane is amazeing you would see energy sparking everywhere and aww man you might be scared away...he wants you to be strong first!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 20, 2013, at 11:59 PM, "Ian" <iantmcgee@... wrote:
 
I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer" <potgieterjennifer@... wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet. What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
http://astralartsofthegods.weebly.com/godsdemons.html

Have you seen this link? Tanya.Azazel (from these JoS groups) put up this website. I believe a picture of Lord Andras is on there.You can meditate on His sigil. When I want to build a relationship with one of the Gods/Goddesses, I just pray to Them, and talk to Them as I would a friend. They DO hear us.I haven't seen the Gods face-to-face either yet, though They do send Their animals and other symbols that are sacred to Them in dreams or in the physical world, in the way of messages.Just keep aware.
Hail Satan!
From: potgieterjennifer <potgieterjennifer@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:45:18 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Lord Andras

  Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet. What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!



 
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross quite intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and where we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you need to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him and understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how to fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found from personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you. Serious ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of humour :) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat himself He is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@... wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer" <potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet. What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you. Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@... wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He was sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves they were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or They were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for Him. It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last time I started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create for me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours and come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do The messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand out beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what They look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like Tarot cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book with drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences from actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you. Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
this one night, I had a vision; or at least I guess it was a vision.
It had that kind of quality about it, you know? So, I was sort of
upset, and I started thinking of Lord Andras. And then, it was like I
could see him and myself. We were on this beach, and there were these
two wolves with him. I don't know what colour they were, but since I
don't think in colours anyways I wouldn't remember that. Lol. But he
and I were sitting on the shoreline you know, like a little ways off
from the water's edge, and the two wolves were like frolicking in the
surf and stuff. Andras was laughing at their antics; they were
basically acting like a couple of giant puppy dogs, cavorting in the
ocean and chasing each other around and around in the sand. I dunno.
It may have just been a daydream of mine, not really a vision, but it
did have that sort of surreal quality, and I was to the point where I
could almost smell the brine of the sea, and hear the waves and the
crying of the gulls, so maybe it was really a vision. But either way,
it was a very nice thought and I appreciate it, whatever it truly may
have been. It made me feel better and not upset anymore, whatever it
was. And I Love my Andras for that! Hail Father Satan always! Hail
Lord Andras!

On 3/25/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He was
sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves they
were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or They
were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for Him.
It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last time I
started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats
when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened
twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create for
me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours and
come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much
faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do The
messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand out
beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what They
look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each
Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like Tarot
cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book with
drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences from
actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that
gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross
quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and
where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you
need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him
and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how
to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found
from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you.
Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for
one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of
humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat
himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was
in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect
with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit
about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All
I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready
yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
From my experience, the Messenger Demons are about 1.-1.5 feet tall, with black fur and a red muscled chest, bright red. And They have black leathery bat-like wings and almond shaped red eyes.This is just my interpretation though, when I see them astrally. Maybe others have a different experience and would like to share.Please keep us updated on your drawings and art, I for one would love to see the pictures of the Gods. :)
Hail Satan!
From: Serpentfire666 <firebird894@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 6:32:41 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras

  He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He was sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves they were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or They were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for Him. It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last time I started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create for me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours and come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do The messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand out beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what They look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like Tarot cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book with drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences from actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you. Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!

 
That's really amazing. Thanks for sharing!
Hail Satan!
From: Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:46:57 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras

  this one night, I had a vision; or at least I guess it was a vision.
It had that kind of quality about it, you know? So, I was sort of
upset, and I started thinking of Lord Andras. And then, it was like I
could see him and myself. We were on this beach, and there were these
two wolves with him. I don't know what colour they were, but since I
don't think in colours anyways I wouldn't remember that. Lol. But he
and I were sitting on the shoreline you know, like a little ways off
from the water's edge, and the two wolves were like frolicking in the
surf and stuff. Andras was laughing at their antics; they were
basically acting like a couple of giant puppy dogs, cavorting in the
ocean and chasing each other around and around in the sand. I dunno.
It may have just been a daydream of mine, not really a vision, but it
did have that sort of surreal quality, and I was to the point where I
could almost smell the brine of the sea, and hear the waves and the
crying of the gulls, so maybe it was really a vision. But either way,
it was a very nice thought and I appreciate it, whatever it truly may
have been. It made me feel better and not upset anymore, whatever it
was. And I Love my Andras for that! Hail Father Satan always! Hail
Lord Andras!

On 3/25/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He was
sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves they
were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or They
were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for Him.
It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last time I
started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats
when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened
twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create for
me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours and
come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much
faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do The
messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand out
beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what They
look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each
Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like Tarot
cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book with
drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences from
actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that
gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross
quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and
where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you
need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him
and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how
to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found
from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you.
Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for
one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of
humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat
himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was
in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect
with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit
about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All
I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready
yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!

 
How do you get the messenger daemons to come? I am sorta confused on
that point; Maxine was never very specific.

On 3/25/13, Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:
That's really amazing. Thanks for sharing!

Hail Satan!


________________________________
From: Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:46:57 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras



this one night, I had a vision; or at least I guess it was a vision.
It had that kind of quality about it, you know? So, I was sort of
upset, and I started thinking of Lord Andras. And then, it was like I
could see him and myself. We were on this beach, and there were these
two wolves with him. I don't know what colour they were, but since I
don't think in colours anyways I wouldn't remember that. Lol. But he
and I were sitting on the shoreline you know, like a little ways off
from the water's edge, and the two wolves were like frolicking in the
surf and stuff. Andras was laughing at their antics; they were
basically acting like a couple of giant puppy dogs, cavorting in the
ocean and chasing each other around and around in the sand. I dunno.
It may have just been a daydream of mine, not really a vision, but it
did have that sort of surreal quality, and I was to the point where I
could almost smell the brine of the sea, and hear the waves and the
crying of the gulls, so maybe it was really a vision. But either way,
it was a very nice thought and I appreciate it, whatever it truly may
have been. It made me feel better and not upset anymore, whatever it
was. And I Love my Andras for that! Hail Father Satan always! Hail
Lord Andras!

On 3/25/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He
was
sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves
they
were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or They
were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for
Him.
It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last time
I
started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats
when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened
twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create
for
me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours and
come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much
faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do
The
messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand
out
beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what
They
look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each
Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like
Tarot
cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book
with
drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences
from
actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that
gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross
quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and
where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and
you
need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him
and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you
how
to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have
found
from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you.
Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for
one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of
humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat
himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was
in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect
with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit
about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes.
All
I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I
also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready
yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
I imagine about 4-6 of Them flying into my room and landing on my couch, or wherever I need Them at that time. I then respectfully ask Them for help. They are very quiet and do not speak or have communicated to me.When I was very new and the Greys were harassing me, or Christians were praying for me and I did not know who was doing so, and it got to be too much, I would call for Them, and They would come. The harassment would stop, the prayers would stop.I don't call Them for this now, because I can handle it. Because I am a bit stronger now. (Except for one time, in January 2013. And Lady Marchosias came instead.)
I have also seen a different type of Demon. They are like Gargoyles: a medium gray and a bit smaller in width and bulk then the Messenger Demons.I saw Them in a circle one time, about 5 of Them, flying above my bed when I was  lying there. This was before I was a Satanist. I was about 21 or 22 at the time, and living with my ex.Another time, when I was a Satanist, I was on the train and I was worried about two Gentile Asian kids, under the age of 10. I felt they were in danger or something. So I called the Messenger Demons. Two came and sat on the poles that people raise their arms to hang on to. They looked at me, Their faces and eyes somewhat unreadable. Then I looked and saw these Grey Demons follow the kids out of the train. I felt calmer and better.
Has anyone else seen these Grey Gargoyle like Demons?
Hail Satan!
From: Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:29:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras

  How do you get the messenger daemons to come? I am sorta confused on
that point; Maxine was never very specific.

On 3/25/13, Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:
That's really amazing. Thanks for sharing!

Hail Satan!


________________________________
From: Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:46:57 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras



this one night, I had a vision; or at least I guess it was a vision.
It had that kind of quality about it, you know? So, I was sort of
upset, and I started thinking of Lord Andras. And then, it was like I
could see him and myself. We were on this beach, and there were these
two wolves with him. I don't know what colour they were, but since I
don't think in colours anyways I wouldn't remember that. Lol. But he
and I were sitting on the shoreline you know, like a little ways off
from the water's edge, and the two wolves were like frolicking in the
surf and stuff. Andras was laughing at their antics; they were
basically acting like a couple of giant puppy dogs, cavorting in the
ocean and chasing each other around and around in the sand. I dunno.
It may have just been a daydream of mine, not really a vision, but it
did have that sort of surreal quality, and I was to the point where I
could almost smell the brine of the sea, and hear the waves and the
crying of the gulls, so maybe it was really a vision. But either way,
it was a very nice thought and I appreciate it, whatever it truly may
have been. It made me feel better and not upset anymore, whatever it
was. And I Love my Andras for that! Hail Father Satan always! Hail
Lord Andras!

On 3/25/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He
was
sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves
they
were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or They
were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for
Him.
It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last time
I
started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats
when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened
twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create
for
me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours and
come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much
faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do
The
messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand
out
beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what
They
look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each
Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like
Tarot
cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book
with
drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences
from
actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that
gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross
quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and
where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and
you
need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him
and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you
how
to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have
found
from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you.
Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for
one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of
humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat
himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was
in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect
with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit
about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes.
All
I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I
also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready
yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!

 
What do they desire in return for their services, or do they even want
anything?

On 3/25/13, Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:
I imagine about 4-6 of Them flying into my room and landing on my couch, or
wherever I need Them at that time.
I then respectfully ask Them for help. They are very quiet and do not speak
or have communicated to me.
When I was very new and the Greys were harassing me, or Christians were
praying for me and I did not know who was doing so, and it got to be too
much, I would call for Them, and They would come. The harassment would stop,
the prayers would stop.
I don't call Them for this now, because I can handle it. Because I am a bit
stronger now. (Except for one time, in January 2013. And Lady Marchosias
came instead.)

I have also seen a different type of Demon. They are like Gargoyles: a
medium gray and a bit smaller in width and bulk then the Messenger Demons.
I saw Them in a circle one time, about 5 of Them, flying above my bed when I
was  lying there. This was before I was a Satanist. I was about 21 or 22 at
the time, and living with my ex.
Another time, when I was a Satanist, I was on the train and I was worried
about two Gentile Asian kids, under the age of 10. I felt they were in
danger or something. So I called the Messenger Demons. Two came and sat on
the poles that people raise their arms to hang on to. They looked at me,
Their faces and eyes somewhat unreadable. Then I looked and saw these Grey
Demons follow the kids out of the train. I felt calmer and better.

Has anyone else seen these Grey Gargoyle like Demons?

Hail Satan!


________________________________
From: Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:29:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras



How do you get the messenger daemons to come? I am sorta confused on
that point; Maxine was never very specific.

On 3/25/13, Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:
That's really amazing. Thanks for sharing!

Hail Satan!


________________________________
From: Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:46:57 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras



this one night, I had a vision; or at least I guess it was a vision.
It had that kind of quality about it, you know? So, I was sort of
upset, and I started thinking of Lord Andras. And then, it was like I
could see him and myself. We were on this beach, and there were these
two wolves with him. I don't know what colour they were, but since I
don't think in colours anyways I wouldn't remember that. Lol. But he
and I were sitting on the shoreline you know, like a little ways off
from the water's edge, and the two wolves were like frolicking in the
surf and stuff. Andras was laughing at their antics; they were
basically acting like a couple of giant puppy dogs, cavorting in the
ocean and chasing each other around and around in the sand. I dunno.
It may have just been a daydream of mine, not really a vision, but it
did have that sort of surreal quality, and I was to the point where I
could almost smell the brine of the sea, and hear the waves and the
crying of the gulls, so maybe it was really a vision. But either way,
it was a very nice thought and I appreciate it, whatever it truly may
have been. It made me feel better and not upset anymore, whatever it
was. And I Love my Andras for that! Hail Father Satan always! Hail
Lord Andras!

On 3/25/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He
was
sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves
they
were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or
They
were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for
Him.
It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last
time
I
started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats
when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened
twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create
for
me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours
and
come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much
faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do
The
messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand
out
beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what
They
look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each
Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like
Tarot
cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book
with
drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences
from
actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that
gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come
accross
quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and
where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and
you
need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him
and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you
how
to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have
found
from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you.
Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for
one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of
humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat
himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I
was
in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally
connect
with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit
about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes.
All
I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I
also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready
yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
No one should be afraid of the Gods
Fear is a tool of the enemy .





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you. Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
I havn't seen them but a way I imagine them and it might sound weird I have always loved the stone statues of the Gargoyles and things like that animals with wings I picture them comming to life and the eyes comming to life. Maybe its because I have the statues around the garden on fences and stuff its what my mind just makes up.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:

From my experience, the Messenger Demons are about 1.-1.5 feet tall, with black fur and a red muscled chest, bright red. And They have black leathery bat-like wings and almond shaped red eyes.
This is just my interpretation though, when I see them astrally. Maybe others have a different experience and would like to share.
Please keep us updated on your drawings and art, I for one would love to see the pictures of the Gods. :)

Hail Satan!


________________________________
From: Serpentfire666 <firebird894@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 6:32:41 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras


 
He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He was sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves they were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or They were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for Him. It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last time I started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create for me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours and come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do The messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand out beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what
They look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like Tarot cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book with drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences from actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@ wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you. Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
Maybe they do come and we just havn't seen them sometimes if it is not what you expect you don't notice at first and then you remember things and go 'ahhhh' maybe thats who it was lol.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

How do you get the messenger daemons to come? I am sorta confused on
that point; Maxine was never very specific.

On 3/25/13, Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:
That's really amazing. Thanks for sharing!

Hail Satan!


________________________________
From: Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:46:57 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras



this one night, I had a vision; or at least I guess it was a vision.
It had that kind of quality about it, you know? So, I was sort of
upset, and I started thinking of Lord Andras. And then, it was like I
could see him and myself. We were on this beach, and there were these
two wolves with him. I don't know what colour they were, but since I
don't think in colours anyways I wouldn't remember that. Lol. But he
and I were sitting on the shoreline you know, like a little ways off
from the water's edge, and the two wolves were like frolicking in the
surf and stuff. Andras was laughing at their antics; they were
basically acting like a couple of giant puppy dogs, cavorting in the
ocean and chasing each other around and around in the sand. I dunno.
It may have just been a daydream of mine, not really a vision, but it
did have that sort of surreal quality, and I was to the point where I
could almost smell the brine of the sea, and hear the waves and the
crying of the gulls, so maybe it was really a vision. But either way,
it was a very nice thought and I appreciate it, whatever it truly may
have been. It made me feel better and not upset anymore, whatever it
was. And I Love my Andras for that! Hail Father Satan always! Hail
Lord Andras!

On 3/25/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He
was
sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves
they
were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or They
were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for
Him.
It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last time
I
started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats
when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened
twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create
for
me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours and
come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much
faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do
The
messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand
out
beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what
They
look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each
Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like
Tarot
cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book
with
drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences
from
actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that
gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@
wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@ wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross
quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and
where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and
you
need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him
and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you
how
to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have
found
from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you.
Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for
one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of
humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat
himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was
in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect
with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit
about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes.
All
I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I
also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready
yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
One time I called Them to help me out. I was in a jam. It's a bit embarressing, I don't want to mention what the jam was for. They came and sat on my couch, and I asked Them for help.One of my Guardians told me what They wanted was for me to participate in spiritual warfare.It seems logical for me to believe that.
Hail Satan!
From: Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 2:30:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras

  What do they desire in return for their services, or do they even want
anything?

On 3/25/13, Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:
I imagine about 4-6 of Them flying into my room and landing on my couch, or
wherever I need Them at that time.
I then respectfully ask Them for help. They are very quiet and do not speak
or have communicated to me.
When I was very new and the Greys were harassing me, or Christians were
praying for me and I did not know who was doing so, and it got to be too
much, I would call for Them, and They would come. The harassment would stop,
the prayers would stop.
I don't call Them for this now, because I can handle it. Because I am a bit
stronger now. (Except for one time, in January 2013. And Lady Marchosias
came instead.)

I have also seen a different type of Demon. They are like Gargoyles: a
medium gray and a bit smaller in width and bulk then the Messenger Demons.
I saw Them in a circle one time, about 5 of Them, flying above my bed when I
was  lying there. This was before I was a Satanist. I was about 21 or 22 at
the time, and living with my ex.
Another time, when I was a Satanist, I was on the train and I was worried
about two Gentile Asian kids, under the age of 10. I felt they were in
danger or something. So I called the Messenger Demons. Two came and sat on
the poles that people raise their arms to hang on to. They looked at me,
Their faces and eyes somewhat unreadable. Then I looked and saw these Grey
Demons follow the kids out of the train. I felt calmer and better.

Has anyone else seen these Grey Gargoyle like Demons?

Hail Satan!


________________________________
From: Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:29:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras



How do you get the messenger daemons to come? I am sorta confused on
that point; Maxine was never very specific.

On 3/25/13, Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:
That's really amazing. Thanks for sharing!

Hail Satan!


________________________________
From: Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:46:57 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras



this one night, I had a vision; or at least I guess it was a vision.
It had that kind of quality about it, you know? So, I was sort of
upset, and I started thinking of Lord Andras. And then, it was like I
could see him and myself. We were on this beach, and there were these
two wolves with him. I don't know what colour they were, but since I
don't think in colours anyways I wouldn't remember that. Lol. But he
and I were sitting on the shoreline you know, like a little ways off
from the water's edge, and the two wolves were like frolicking in the
surf and stuff. Andras was laughing at their antics; they were
basically acting like a couple of giant puppy dogs, cavorting in the
ocean and chasing each other around and around in the sand. I dunno.
It may have just been a daydream of mine, not really a vision, but it
did have that sort of surreal quality, and I was to the point where I
could almost smell the brine of the sea, and hear the waves and the
crying of the gulls, so maybe it was really a vision. But either way,
it was a very nice thought and I appreciate it, whatever it truly may
have been. It made me feel better and not upset anymore, whatever it
was. And I Love my Andras for that! Hail Father Satan always! Hail
Lord Andras!

On 3/25/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He
was
sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves
they
were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or
They
were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for
Him.
It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last
time
I
started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats
when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened
twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create
for
me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours
and
come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much
faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do
The
messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand
out
beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what
They
look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each
Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like
Tarot
cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book
with
drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences
from
actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that
gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come
accross
quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and
where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and
you
need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him
and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you
how
to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have
found
from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you.
Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for
one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of
humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat
himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I
was
in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally
connect
with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit
about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes.
All
I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I
also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready
yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!

 
I hear you. What I desire is to see the great old churches in Europe, where they have the Gargoyles at the very top, at the balcony, looking over the entire city. It's not enough for me to look at it in a book. I imagine the majesty of those places can only be seen and truly appreciated in person.
There's nothing like that here where I live. 
Hail Satan!
From: Serpentfire666 <firebird894@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:27:18 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras

  I havn't seen them but a way I imagine them and it might sound weird I have always loved the stone statues of the Gargoyles and things like that animals with wings I picture them comming to life and the eyes comming to life. Maybe its because I have the statues around the garden on fences and stuff its what my mind just makes up.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:

From my experience, the Messenger Demons are about 1.-1.5 feet tall, with black fur and a red muscled chest, bright red. And They have black leathery bat-like wings and almond shaped red eyes.
This is just my interpretation though, when I see them astrally. Maybe others have a different experience and would like to share.
Please keep us updated on your drawings and art, I for one would love to see the pictures of the Gods. :)

Hail Satan!


________________________________
From: Serpentfire666 <firebird894@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 6:32:41 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Lord Andras


 
He showed me a vision of Himself once sitting in a forest on a log, He was sitting there in this big sort of trenchcoat surrounded by grey wolves they were all around Him there I don't know if He was talking to Them, or They were all just hanging out but I think He would like me to draw this for Him. It will be an honour but I have to get Amun Ra done next because last time I started drawing Ra with His falcon it was going to be in Egypt and thats when Andras came and it turned into a drawing of Him lol thats happened twice now lol I have a waiting list it's very long. If They could create for me a little bubble outside of Time where I can sit and draw for hours and come back and still get everything else done I would do Them all much faster. I feel I need to draw all of The Gods and Then also I want to do The messenger Demons with the red eyes I want to really make The eyes stand out beautifull. I havn't personally seen Them yet but I have an idea what
They look like. I also had it come to me to do a deck of cards, one for each Demon with Their Sigil, colour and important things all on each like Tarot cards sort of but for The Gods all in order. It will be cards or a book with drawings, that was another idea to do with descriptions and experiences from actual Satanists about The Gods of Hell to counter all the bullshit that gets written. Thats a long term project.

I keep getting ideas but still noway to stretch the day longer lol

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@ wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you. Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!

 
For me no fear, but the word I think is 'intense' the energy it can be intense especially if you have never felt anything like it before and are not used to it at first it can be a bit of a suprise, or a shock not in a bad way but its a deep intense feeling. I have found some of The Gods to be more 'intense' in their presence and others to be softer. Not softer as in weaker but just a different feel. I think They could come to Us much stronger if We are stronger because the energy is very strong for some people not ready for it.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "High Priestess Myla Limlal" <limlal8@... wrote:

No one should be afraid of the Gods
Fear is a tool of the enemy .





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@ wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you. Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
Yes, exactly! Intense is the word. Lol. Lord Sorath's energy was the
most intense I have ever felt in a God...overpowering.

On 3/25/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@... wrote:
For me no fear, but the word I think is 'intense' the energy it can be
intense especially if you have never felt anything like it before and are
not used to it at first it can be a bit of a suprise, or a shock not in a
bad way but its a deep intense feeling. I have found some of The Gods to be
more 'intense' in their presence and others to be softer. Not softer as in
weaker but just a different feel. I think They could come to Us much
stronger if We are stronger because the energy is very strong for some
people not ready for it.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "High Priestess Myla Limlal"
<limlal8@... wrote:

No one should be afraid of the Gods
Fear is a tool of the enemy .





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@ wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross
quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and
where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and
you need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him
and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you
how to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have
found from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you.
Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for
one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of
humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat
himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was
in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect
with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit
about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes.
All I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I
also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready
yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
True !



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@... wrote:

For me no fear, but the word I think is 'intense' the energy it can be intense especially if you have never felt anything like it before and are not used to it at first it can be a bit of a suprise, or a shock not in a bad way but its a deep intense feeling. I have found some of The Gods to be more 'intense' in their presence and others to be softer. Not softer as in weaker but just a different feel. I think They could come to Us much stronger if We are stronger because the energy is very strong for some people not ready for it.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "High Priestess Myla Limlal" <limlal8@ wrote:

No one should be afraid of the Gods
Fear is a tool of the enemy .





--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allison P <apocalypseofjon@ wrote:

I was never afraid of him, funnily enough. Lol. And when he has come
to me, the few times I have been privileged to have him come, I have
always felt very safe and protected around him. He has a very powerful
energy, but it is warm and safe feeling as well. He is most awesome! ^
Hail Father Satan always! Hail Lord Andras!

On 3/24/13, Serpentfire666 <firebird894@ wrote:
I think I replied to you on another board maybe. He could come accross quite
intimidating to some people remember the Gods can read our energy and where
we are at, and know pretty well how we are likely to react to Their
personality and energy. The other part is He has a lot to teach and you need
to be open enough and have the time to dedicate to learning from Him and
understanding so that may have been part of it too. He can teach you how to
fight in very interesting ways it requires study and time. I have found from
personal experience He can and will also point out 'enemies' to you. Serious
ones that cause the most trouble. He even helped me with a name for one.
He does have a very awsome sense of humour aswell, the dark kind of humour
:) With Andras what you see is what you get, He dosn't sugar coat himself He
is very straight forward. Thats my own experience.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Ian" <iantmcgee@ wrote:


I know lord andras is a complete badass,
Go to the JOS website. They have a description of him.
Appears with a wolf, total warrior. When I read the description I was in
complete awe. I'm on my phone or i would post a link.

My question to you potgietrjennifer, is how do you personally connect with
the gods?
Hail Satan
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "potgieterjennifer"
<potgieterjennifer@ wrote:

Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about
Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other
sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I
can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also
asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet.
What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 
Interesting. This reminds me of a dream I had a few months back that is still clear as day to me. I remember seeing a pack of grey timber wolves, and there was one HUGE black wolf that came right up to me. He was extremely affectionate and kept his paws in my hands like a dog would, and locked eyes with me. That eye contact held me, it was so strong, and I could clearly tell that the jet-black wolf was SMILING at me. His eyes were a vivid golden yellow like nothing I've ever seen. I woke up feeling happy, like I was being watched over and loved. I never figured it out, but it always felt important to me. I wonder if this was in connection to Lord Andras, or one of our gods?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:

http://astralartsofthegods.weebly.com/godsdemons.html


Have you seen this link? Tanya.Azazel (from these JoS groups) put up this website. I believe a picture of Lord Andras is on there.
You can meditate on His sigil. When I want to build a relationship with one of the Gods/Goddesses, I just pray to Them, and talk to Them as I would a friend. They DO hear us.
I haven't seen the Gods face-to-face either yet, though They do send Their animals and other symbols that are sacred to Them in dreams or in the physical world, in the way of messages.
Just keep aware.

Hail Satan!


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From: potgieterjennifer <potgieterjennifer@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:45:18 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Lord Andras


 
Sorry for asking this, but I want to know if you can tell me a bit about Lord Andras. When I came across his sigil after using a few other sigils, I asked him if he was my guardian demon, and he said yes. All I can find about him is lies. I really want to know him better. I also asked him if I could see him in a dream and he said I'm not ready yet. What did he mean by that?

Hail Satan and Hail Lord Andras!
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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