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I came across this PDF that supposedly has some of the meditations and teachings to ascend in the levels of the Mo Pai school. This school that had John Chang at the top, I believe.
Years ago, maybe 10 or so, I was keen on learning the practices, of course, as a teenage guy, after seeing that the man could light things on fire, who wouldnt?
However the information back then was scarce, hard to verify, etc. The only "resource" that one could get was the Kosta Danaos book, a guy who was John Chang student. Maybe that was the one I read, but it was full of stories and not much information, barely the "level 1" meditations. But I do remember some suspicious claims that, for example, one could not do their "foundation" meditation for 72 hours if one had an orgasm or sexual release. Other claim was that one HAD to be grounded, either by touching the earth or with a wire.
Now the ONLY thing that one could find in 2015 was the meditation that somehow was made public, it was like this:
-sitting in lotus or half lotus pose, GROUNDED
-Reverse breathing
-focus on the lower dan tien, like a laser pointer. Which im gonna ASSUME is the sacral chakra given its position.
Sensations: Intense heat in dan tien, tingling, etc.
No more, no less. It was said that 80 hours were necessary to fill the lower dan tien with Qi, but there was a catch, only "true focus" time counted towards this 80 hour stage. Which in reality turned out to be in the hundreds. With true focus being a state where one would average 1 breath cycle per minute.
Personally that is also half bullshit half truth. Because the same thing happens to all of us, when we meditate with half focus, the meditation loses power. But its not like its a null effort either. That I will leave to you guys with more knowledge than me to clear it up.
That is what was we had back then. However a few days ago I came across this: https://libraryofagartha.com/Occultism/'Aryan' Occultism/The-Mo-Pai-Training-Manual-pdf.pdf
Which has more in depth information, claims to be the real deal, but the foundations differ, in this book the foundation is described as follows:
-Pose: Stand up or sitting on a chair, or sitting on lotus pose
if doing it on your feet:
-Visualize roots emanating from feet (KD1 point) into the earth, spreading around rather than going deeply
-Feel earth's Qi going up from the legs and meeting in huiyin point (Base chakra?) then splitting again going up to the shoulders and descending into the hands
if done on lotus pose, imagine roots emanating from the huiyin point directly.
And no more than that. No mention of how long one should do this before moving on to the next stage.
The next stage is level 1. which include 4 different poses, rhytmic breathing and visualizations. I am not gonna explain them here cause it will make the post way longer, they start on page 8. This is where it differs from what the Kosta Danaos book says. The foundation meditations are indeed different and this is the real question, which one is the legit one? And more importantly, are they safe to practice?
Years ago, maybe 10 or so, I was keen on learning the practices, of course, as a teenage guy, after seeing that the man could light things on fire, who wouldnt?
However the information back then was scarce, hard to verify, etc. The only "resource" that one could get was the Kosta Danaos book, a guy who was John Chang student. Maybe that was the one I read, but it was full of stories and not much information, barely the "level 1" meditations. But I do remember some suspicious claims that, for example, one could not do their "foundation" meditation for 72 hours if one had an orgasm or sexual release. Other claim was that one HAD to be grounded, either by touching the earth or with a wire.
Now the ONLY thing that one could find in 2015 was the meditation that somehow was made public, it was like this:
-sitting in lotus or half lotus pose, GROUNDED
-Reverse breathing
-focus on the lower dan tien, like a laser pointer. Which im gonna ASSUME is the sacral chakra given its position.
Sensations: Intense heat in dan tien, tingling, etc.
No more, no less. It was said that 80 hours were necessary to fill the lower dan tien with Qi, but there was a catch, only "true focus" time counted towards this 80 hour stage. Which in reality turned out to be in the hundreds. With true focus being a state where one would average 1 breath cycle per minute.
Personally that is also half bullshit half truth. Because the same thing happens to all of us, when we meditate with half focus, the meditation loses power. But its not like its a null effort either. That I will leave to you guys with more knowledge than me to clear it up.
That is what was we had back then. However a few days ago I came across this: https://libraryofagartha.com/Occultism/'Aryan' Occultism/The-Mo-Pai-Training-Manual-pdf.pdf
Which has more in depth information, claims to be the real deal, but the foundations differ, in this book the foundation is described as follows:
-Pose: Stand up or sitting on a chair, or sitting on lotus pose
if doing it on your feet:
-Visualize roots emanating from feet (KD1 point) into the earth, spreading around rather than going deeply
-Feel earth's Qi going up from the legs and meeting in huiyin point (Base chakra?) then splitting again going up to the shoulders and descending into the hands
if done on lotus pose, imagine roots emanating from the huiyin point directly.
And no more than that. No mention of how long one should do this before moving on to the next stage.
The next stage is level 1. which include 4 different poses, rhytmic breathing and visualizations. I am not gonna explain them here cause it will make the post way longer, they start on page 8. This is where it differs from what the Kosta Danaos book says. The foundation meditations are indeed different and this is the real question, which one is the legit one? And more importantly, are they safe to practice?