Dude.... Your message was rather disrespectful at certain parts.
You will accept Satan if you contact Him and He's 'good' to you...?
First of all, you need to study more
www.joyofSatan.com and
www.exposingchristianity.com in case you haven't done so already. We are currently into a Spiritual War. Literally- a War. Have you ever seen a Leader of a certain war, to abandon the entire war in order to communicate with just for one person who's doubtful of his strategic (well, of His Existence in your case...).
You need to understand that Spiritual Satanism is something that needs to be taken seriously. Satan will not be your puppy so that you can accept Him. He's a God; He's our Father. Whether you believe it or not, the least you can do is show respect towards Him... Otherwise don't even bother writing a message in this group.
Satan's real name is Ea. But "Satan" as a name has a meaning. In the Sanskrit language (the language of our Gods) it means "Truth" and "Creator God" and in hebrew (the enemy language...) it means "enemy"; and it's the truth, as Satan *is* the jews' enemy. Jews are our enemy.
By the way Apollo (whom you mentioned in your message) from the Hellenic Olympian Gods, is actually the God Azazel.
Anyway, look... I read your message but you've received a big dose of brainwashing (like most of us did) and delusion and you really need to study more the websites I mentioned above.
If you do not believe in Satan or do not intend on dedicating your soul to Him, then do not do the dedication ritual. Study as much as you want and if you want to do meditations, I advice you to just do the aura + chakras cleaning, and the aura of protection for the time being... Don't do anything more as the enemy entities will try to attack you if they see that you're defenseless and on your own (without a Guardian Demon etc).
Of course, even *after* you dedicate the enemy will try to stop you by attacking you, but you will protect yourself and you will also have the God's Guidance, which at the moment you do not have it directly.
I advice you to study more the websites and *after* you study them, then you can ask any questions you may have here. So far, most of the things you asked can be explained/answered if you just study the websites. Do not do any ritual if you're not ready or do not believe in our Gods (Satan and His Demons). And definitely DO NOT summon a Demon 'out of curiosity' and the like... This is highly disrespectful. If you study the website at the section about Summoning Demons you'll understand what I mean.
That's all. Good studying.
Στις 6:05 μ.μ. Πέμπτη, 2 Οκτωβρίου 2014, ο/η "escapegravity33@... [JoyofSatan666]" <JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com έγραψε:
Well hello,
I have been coming to the jos website periodically over the last year. The first article i read was about how Christianity represses sexuality. Reading that article loosened me and loosened my tight energy. It helped my mind relax. At the time- and currently, I"m a student, of accounting, and i have to spend too much time at the puter. I sometimes get stressed or agitated or frustrated, and that was the context of finding your site. I also like to question authority and tradition and dogma. I believe in authority, when rightful. I just like to question and audit it. Of course I already long ago learned/believe how the germans and pagans and fascists are slandered by the you-know-whos, so you didn't have to sell me on that. It's not all but it's many, many are lost. I like Nietzsche. I am still not sure if Satan is real or not, but I believe there is a kind of psychic universe above me, that I want to enter. I mean above me in my mind. I feel trapped in a kind of narrow dimension of the mind/spirit thanks in part to my own limitations and also those of culture. I believe in psychological war, and I suspect psychic war may be real as well. By psychological- I mean, dropping leaflets, for example, to demoralize. Clausewitz wrote a lot about the importance of morale in warfare. By psychic- I mean launching psycich attacks or curses from afar, from another plane. Actually, I'm not sure what I mean. I wanted when young to be able to get women, so I looked into NLP, and that got me into Bandler. I know what his race happens to be, btw. Anyway he talked a lot about this stuff. I don't know what's true but I"m open minded. I know anyway that I'm not using but a percentage of my brain and mind and that's enough, if anything can help me advance.
Again, I don't know if Satan is really real, but I'll accept him if I contact him, and he's 'good'- to me. Not that I believe in Good and Evil, as such. But even if he's not, it is helpful, having been christian and dogmatist for so long to embrace the other side for an experience, to nullify the baggage that has collected, that still clings even though I got rid of the overt beliefs. I got into Robert Anton Wilson earlier, and I trusted him, but now I don't trust him. He is clever. Maybe he is sincere, in which case he's a tool or fool, but I don't trust him. Oh, now they are playing Cat Stevens, sitting. He is a man I have always liked and admired and trusted. He's muslim, one of the abrahamics, but I still trust and like him.
Anyway far be it from me, a new guy with zero investment or commitment, to dictate, but I have a thought or question. Satan is not a name as such, is it? If it means adversary, it is a title, and Lucifer may be a name- or even that is a title meaning light bringer. Well many names are in fact titles or descriptive terms. Fredrick, not my real name, actually means Peace-Rich. Harold means commander- same as the root Harrass, Heer in German means army or host. -ald is from wield. So even proper names have meanings. But I understand Satan means adversary, and the adversary of the hebrews and jus and others are.. The Nations- duh! I mean the heathen pagan nations! Die Heiden- the "barbarians" haha. Isaiah is the biggest piece of shit. May his prophecies be ridiculed and come to naught. The nations will arise and unite against a common foe. They will awaken and arise in their full glory, for eternity, in complete sovereignty and respect towards each other (for the most part), but will not be divided by their common foe and would-be liquidator. Borders will be drawn properly so as not to balkanize.
but so I prefer to call him Lucifer, it seems more a personal name. Comments? I am still new, I don't mean to be presumptuous.
Also, there's a little bit of fear, let's say, of incurring damnation of my eternal soul, where Satan will torment me forever. I know this is the fear of the Xians and such but it still exists. Bear with me and have patience, as I take things step by step with respect for all parties. I understand you consider Satan as being a slandered being, and masks of him in 'hallow's eve' which actually is supposed to be "holy" or hallow, and in Poland and Germany is celebrated as all saints day, where they bring candles to cemetaries at night- people wear a mask of satan or the devil (lit. thrower or slanderer) as hideous masks. Thank you for helping me realize this. Well my comments on this is that I already understand that some of my favorite men have been the most slandered in the world- one Noble Wolf- whose name is Adolf. He was not a bad guy, but he is so harshly slandered by this society, so why not Satan. You suggest he or Lucifer has a beautiful figure. That's interesting. Oscar Wilde, in The Picture of Dorian Gray, suggests that the face shows marks of sin or evil or deeds, whether beautiful or ugly and it records them. Dorian Gray was able to bypass this, but in general that's true. Physiognomy. So in this sense, those who are good should have beautiful faces- not necessarily beautiful in bone structure but in the light, let's say, that emanates from within- and if reincarnation is true, maybe they get that better bone structure in the next life, but anyway that doesn't matter. If Lucifer is beautiful, what does that mean? He reminds me actually of Phoebus Apollo, or the sun god of the Germans or Egyptians, or sun in general- of the. Hmmm. We are not told this! We are not taught anything about any historic religions or folk religions. I have had to do independent research. We are kept ignorant and in the dark. I don't like that and I'd like to change that.
So we have this brilliant light bringing figure- that sounds maybe like prometheus but also others. Also Eros was poisoned by Christianity. He didn't die, just degenerated into a vice. Christianity attracts men who want to be lord over their wives who must humbly submit. I must admit I have had occasional success with women- hooking up and having relationships and stuff, but I"m not sure the goals society set for me are what I wanted or should have pursued. I don't know if 'hooking up' was all that valuable. In some ways, yes, in others no, but I have not had the experience of a marriage or marital commitment, and what it entails, so in that I must say little. I have been around men's rights groups. I understand now that feminism reacted against that christian paternalism (when it wasn't co-opted by the you know whos and used as their tool for division) and if they went to extremes, it wasn't as hostility against men. Men also, woh weren't successful in life, reacted against this and criticized them. Therefore it became a tool of division. But I, a yankee by birth, have been to europe and other cultures- many others, and have seen how things can be so much more normal. And just imagine in a world without the abrahamic religions- how normal things could actually be. But the environment here- let's say it suffocates me- but I still live. It's like my circumcision- mutiliation against my will- I still live and enjoy it's use but it's not what it could be. Which is why I want to escape this dimension/make changes and for that I need power and knowledge- of truth and what's real. I don't need any more fantasy escapism, so my support and involvement in this group or whatever will depend on the reality and secondarily the usefulness of what is propagated. I know in so many ways already we are of like mind.
I hate or despise those who live in fear and cowardice- including myself when it's so.
I want to believe in spirits- or demons/daemons. I mean as a kid, who doesn't want to believe in fairies and sprites and elves and so on. We'll see. I believe in energies, and more and more I become aware of them. But Van Morrison sings "there are gods and spirits along the way, who will befriend us" (checkin it out)
I want to have full use of my brain. That is my major purpose. I want to know reality and escape my predicament, wherein I feel trapped, in the brain and mind, and also marginalized and alienated by society from my people. My race has no unity or knowledge. In those racial matters I'm similar to the likes of David Duke. few among the Nat Socialists or whatever you call us, would go so far as going to a Satanism website, and I am not doing it to be a "rebel" as such, nor am I doing it because I have a fascination with the morbid, or demons, or special powers as it were. I am interested in it and gravitated towards it by far mostly because it is taboo, and unexplored. I hate that which is taboo, and I am an explorer and breaker of taboos. And I am also here because you are not saying what is stereotyped, and what would be expected of a satanistic group. You seem to be lovers of humanity. In fact you rightly point out, which I have noticed but forgotten countless times, that the qualities that people typically attribute to Satan and his demons and right there claimed and owned by none other than Yahweh Elohim of the Jews or Hebrews. So any serious inquiry into truth must investigate your claims and site with an open mind.
I have never done rituals. I am kind of adverse to rituals in general, that require special time and work. I like to make my life and work a ritual or meditation, and also I am busy. Why should I set aside time to do a certain thing? It also seems strange. I will try maintain an open mind. Getting my goal is what brings me satisfaction, if it is a good goal. I used to study testosterone and how to raise it. I haven't thought about that much lately, but when you do get your goal, stress is relieved. You feel you have broken through. So what use would rituals be for me? They seem alien to my spirit, but if there were pagan folk rituals in my community with my kin in a blood and soil style, like dancing around a may-pole, that might be different. I guess I just am not sure how I feel about being so conscious of doing rituals to summon. It reminds of me Faust or whatnot. I do not seek power. Wait- yes I do in fact. I do seek power! Good I didn't deny it! But doesn't everything come with a price? Also I am curious or interested now in the origin of the pentagram. So you guys agree with that too? You think that's a part of Satanism?
I am very much interested in full use of the mind, in understanding all of history, true history, and that the nations, especially the European and Indo-European nations, which are distressed at present, and which are my own, but all nations, are blessed. I wouldn't mind the hebrew nation being blessed as well, to the extent their being blessed doesn't result in the other nations being cursed. So I'm here. Now I have to go to tax class
