Ive been very curious but i have some concerns/questions to some things just for clarification.
1.I have been raised catholic and have been confirmed into catholicism (im 16 by the way) and this wasnt my choice. What happens if i join, is there something special I have to do first?
2.While i hate 95% of catholicism, i still believe that jesus had good morals and i follow his teachings (turn the other cheek, kindness etc.). I dont exactly believe hes the son of god.
3. If Satan created hell, why do bad people go there? Does that mean that there is no heaven? If there is no heaven therefore there is no such thing as angels and such, wouldnt that mean everyone goes to hell?
4. Do Satanists believe that all religions are unjust? For example Buddhism doesnt deny anything they just believe in peace.
5. When i die and im a Satanist and i die, i obviously go to hell, but what happens to me? I hope im not "punished" as the christians say, but do Satanists have a special seat?
6. Finally, when you ask for a favour, what should you be prepared to sacrifice in turn? Because that could be a wide variety of things.
Sorry for such a long post and forgive my ignorance as I am new here, but I thank anyone who answers these.
Im curious, ive got questions.
davidliggett562 min to read
Ok, you seem to think in a xian way here. Satanism is ancient Paganism, "god" doesn't exist.
1)The dedication.
2) Jesus never existed and is one hundred percent fictitious, plagiarized from over 10 Pagan Gods:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
Those morals you said are not good, they are suicidal. Like it says in the JoS site, what would happen if you loved your viruses, wouldn't you be killed? Same is loving your enemies, they can take advantage of that and destroy you. Which makes sense since xianity's purpose is removing knowledge, keeping people slaves and weakening them. They are cleverly put since they know sometimes people will realize that xianity is a hoax and turn against them, so what better way to protect than pushing the "turning the other cheek" thing?Hating your enemies is the natural law, Satanism is the natural law. Love and hate are both natural and healthy emotions. Many psychological problems manifest in people who suppress anger or hate.
3)Hell isn't what xians talk about, its a beautiful place. "heaven" doesn't exist. Just because "heaven" and "god" doen't exist doesn't mean that angels don't exist. But they are actually enemy aliens (Nordics) and enemies of humanity. Demons are friendly nordics.
4)Buddhism also follows the same suicidal and unhealthy teachings like absence of desire, life is suffering, abstaining from sex and posessions e.t.c. It makes you miserable and open to manipulation from others. I've heard they strive to become a nothing. Satanism is the opposite, living the live to the fullest, enjoying it and working towards Godhead and physical and spiritual immortality.
5)You get reincarnated. Like I said, Hell is not a bad place.
6)Make a promise like artistic work or spiritual warfare.
--- In , "davidliggett56" <davidliggett56@... wrote:
Ive been very curious but i have some concerns/questions to some things just for clarification.
1.I have been raised catholic and have been confirmed into catholicism (im 16 by the way) and this wasnt my choice. What happens if i join, is there something special I have to do first?
2.While i hate 95% of catholicism, i still believe that jesus had good morals and i follow his teachings (turn the other cheek, kindness etc.). I dont exactly believe hes the son of god.
3. If Satan created hell, why do bad people go there? Does that mean that there is no heaven? If there is no heaven therefore there is no such thing as angels and such, wouldnt that mean everyone goes to hell?
4. Do Satanists believe that all religions are unjust? For example Buddhism doesnt deny anything they just believe in peace.
5. When i die and im a Satanist and i die, i obviously go to hell, but what happens to me? I hope im not "punished" as the christians say, but do Satanists have a special seat?
6. Finally, when you ask for a favour, what should you be prepared to sacrifice in turn? Because that could be a wide variety of things.
Sorry for such a long post and forgive my ignorance as I am new here, but I thank anyone who answers these.
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Ok, you seem to think in a xian way here. Satanism is ancient Paganism, "god" doesn't exist.
1)The dedication.
2) Jesus never existed and is one hundred percent fictitious, plagiarized from over 10 Pagan Gods:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
Those morals you said are not good, they are suicidal. Like it says in the JoS site, what would happen if you loved your viruses, wouldn't you be killed? Same is loving your enemies, they can take advantage of that and destroy you. Which makes sense since xianity's purpose is removing knowledge, keeping people slaves and weakening them. They are cleverly put since they know sometimes people will realize that xianity is a hoax and turn against them, so what better way to protect than pushing the "turning the other cheek" thing?Hating your enemies is the natural law, Satanism is the natural law. Love and hate are both natural and healthy emotions. Many psychological problems manifest in people who suppress anger or hate.
3)Hell isn't what xians talk about, its a beautiful place. "heaven" doesn't exist. Just because "heaven" and "god" doen't exist doesn't mean that angels don't exist. But they are actually enemy aliens (Nordics) and enemies of humanity. Demons are friendly nordics.
4)Buddhism also follows the same suicidal and unhealthy teachings like absence of desire, life is suffering, abstaining from sex and posessions e.t.c. It makes you miserable and open to manipulation from others. I've heard they strive to become a nothing. Satanism is the opposite, living the live to the fullest, enjoying it and working towards Godhead and physical and spiritual immortality.
5)You get reincarnated. Like I said, Hell is not a bad place.
6)Make a promise like artistic work or spiritual warfare.
--- In , "davidliggett56" <davidliggett56@... wrote:
Ive been very curious but i have some concerns/questions to some things just for clarification.
1.I have been raised catholic and have been confirmed into catholicism (im 16 by the way) and this wasnt my choice. What happens if i join, is there something special I have to do first?
2.While i hate 95% of catholicism, i still believe that jesus had good morals and i follow his teachings (turn the other cheek, kindness etc.). I dont exactly believe hes the son of god.
3. If Satan created hell, why do bad people go there? Does that mean that there is no heaven? If there is no heaven therefore there is no such thing as angels and such, wouldnt that mean everyone goes to hell?
4. Do Satanists believe that all religions are unjust? For example Buddhism doesnt deny anything they just believe in peace.
5. When i die and im a Satanist and i die, i obviously go to hell, but what happens to me? I hope im not "punished" as the christians say, but do Satanists have a special seat?
6. Finally, when you ask for a favour, what should you be prepared to sacrifice in turn? Because that could be a wide variety of things.
Sorry for such a long post and forgive my ignorance as I am new here, but I thank anyone who answers these.
More about the suicidal teachings and Buddhism you said:
According to a scientific study, it is found that hate triggers mostly the logical part of the brain and puts you more like into a fight or flight situation allowing to think logically and plan your actions (its pretty commonsensical here). Love is the opposite, it lowers your defenses, it is a natural mechanism allowing you to be harmless to those who you trust. With that in mind, its obvious why the enemy abuses the teachings of love and xians have double-digit iq's...I'm not saying that love isn't important, it is but isn't everything, is PART of human emotions. Others like hate, anger and grief are equally important.
And yes, releasing my anger in a destruction ritual for example does give me a good feeling and makes me happy, like I'm liberated so don't say that only loving everyone makes you happy. Like Lavey said, loving everyone cheapens the idea of love and you its impossible to love everyone since you have to put up with every individual's problems and care about them. Your brain would be short-circuited. If you don't do that then you're just indifferent like most people are and just *saying* you love everyone.
--- In , "davidliggett56" <davidliggett56@... wrote:
Ive been very curious but i have some concerns/questions to some things just for clarification.
1.I have been raised catholic and have been confirmed into catholicism (im 16 by the way) and this wasnt my choice. What happens if i join, is there something special I have to do first?
2.While i hate 95% of catholicism, i still believe that jesus had good morals and i follow his teachings (turn the other cheek, kindness etc.). I dont exactly believe hes the son of god.
3. If Satan created hell, why do bad people go there? Does that mean that there is no heaven? If there is no heaven therefore there is no such thing as angels and such, wouldnt that mean everyone goes to hell?
4. Do Satanists believe that all religions are unjust? For example Buddhism doesnt deny anything they just believe in peace.
5. When i die and im a Satanist and i die, i obviously go to hell, but what happens to me? I hope im not "punished" as the christians say, but do Satanists have a special seat?
6. Finally, when you ask for a favour, what should you be prepared to sacrifice in turn? Because that could be a wide variety of things.
Sorry for such a long post and forgive my ignorance as I am new here, but I thank anyone who answers these.
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More about the suicidal teachings and Buddhism you said:
According to a scientific study, it is found that hate triggers mostly the logical part of the brain and puts you more like into a fight or flight situation allowing to think logically and plan your actions (its pretty commonsensical here). Love is the opposite, it lowers your defenses, it is a natural mechanism allowing you to be harmless to those who you trust. With that in mind, its obvious why the enemy abuses the teachings of love and xians have double-digit iq's...I'm not saying that love isn't important, it is but isn't everything, is PART of human emotions. Others like hate, anger and grief are equally important.
And yes, releasing my anger in a destruction ritual for example does give me a good feeling and makes me happy, like I'm liberated so don't say that only loving everyone makes you happy. Like Lavey said, loving everyone cheapens the idea of love and you its impossible to love everyone since you have to put up with every individual's problems and care about them. Your brain would be short-circuited. If you don't do that then you're just indifferent like most people are and just *saying* you love everyone.
--- In , "davidliggett56" <davidliggett56@... wrote:
Ive been very curious but i have some concerns/questions to some things just for clarification.
1.I have been raised catholic and have been confirmed into catholicism (im 16 by the way) and this wasnt my choice. What happens if i join, is there something special I have to do first?
2.While i hate 95% of catholicism, i still believe that jesus had good morals and i follow his teachings (turn the other cheek, kindness etc.). I dont exactly believe hes the son of god.
3. If Satan created hell, why do bad people go there? Does that mean that there is no heaven? If there is no heaven therefore there is no such thing as angels and such, wouldnt that mean everyone goes to hell?
4. Do Satanists believe that all religions are unjust? For example Buddhism doesnt deny anything they just believe in peace.
5. When i die and im a Satanist and i die, i obviously go to hell, but what happens to me? I hope im not "punished" as the christians say, but do Satanists have a special seat?
6. Finally, when you ask for a favour, what should you be prepared to sacrifice in turn? Because that could be a wide variety of things.
Sorry for such a long post and forgive my ignorance as I am new here, but I thank anyone who answers these.
I understand where you are getting your questions but 99% of what you just said is all Xian programming and is not true in Zevism. My suggestion is to read/study templeofzeus.org as this will answer all of your questions and more regarding everything. Ifyou still fell the way you do now after some reaserch or you expect someone else to "show you the way" then Zevism is not for you.
Hail Satan!
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 26, 2010, at 20:36, "davidliggett56" <davidliggett56@... wrote:
Ive been very curious but i have some concerns/questions to some things just for clarification.
1.I have been raised catholic and have been confirmed into catholicism (im 16 by the way) and this wasnt my choice. What happens if i join, is there something special I have to do first?
2.While i hate 95% of catholicism, i still believe that jesus had good morals and i follow his teachings (turn the other cheek, kindness etc.). I dont exactly believe hes the son of god.
3. If Satan created hell, why do bad people go there? Does that mean that there is no heaven? If there is no heaven therefore there is no such thing as angels and such, wouldnt that mean everyone goes to hell?
4. Do Satanists believe that all religions are unjust? For example Buddhism doesnt deny anything they just believe in peace.
5. When i die and im a Satanist and i die, i obviously go to hell, but what happens to me? I hope im not "punished" as the christians say, but do Satanists have a special seat?
6. Finally, when you ask for a favour, what should you be prepared to sacrifice in turn? Because that could be a wide variety of things.
Sorry for such a long post and forgive my ignorance as I am new here, but I thank anyone who answers these.
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I understand where you are getting your questions but 99% of what you just said is all Xian programming and is not true in Zevism. My suggestion is to read/study templeofzeus.org as this will answer all of your questions and more regarding everything. Ifyou still fell the way you do now after some reaserch or you expect someone else to "show you the way" then Zevism is not for you.
Hail Satan!
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 26, 2010, at 20:36, "davidliggett56" <davidliggett56@... wrote:
Ive been very curious but i have some concerns/questions to some things just for clarification.
1.I have been raised catholic and have been confirmed into catholicism (im 16 by the way) and this wasnt my choice. What happens if i join, is there something special I have to do first?
2.While i hate 95% of catholicism, i still believe that jesus had good morals and i follow his teachings (turn the other cheek, kindness etc.). I dont exactly believe hes the son of god.
3. If Satan created hell, why do bad people go there? Does that mean that there is no heaven? If there is no heaven therefore there is no such thing as angels and such, wouldnt that mean everyone goes to hell?
4. Do Satanists believe that all religions are unjust? For example Buddhism doesnt deny anything they just believe in peace.
5. When i die and im a Satanist and i die, i obviously go to hell, but what happens to me? I hope im not "punished" as the christians say, but do Satanists have a special seat?
6. Finally, when you ask for a favour, what should you be prepared to sacrifice in turn? Because that could be a wide variety of things.
Sorry for such a long post and forgive my ignorance as I am new here, but I thank anyone who answers these.
well with satanism its not just saying christianity is unjust its saying that its not even real, that its a lie that is hurting people and needs to be stopped. also hell isnt a firey pit of lava or some shit, its not where people are punished, it a place with cities and people and demons(which arent bad btw) and of course satan. and the favour thing... ive been wondering that too. if you want more info go to www.templeofzeus.org it has extensive info on all things satanic. hope you figure things out
Hail Satan!
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well with satanism its not just saying christianity is unjust its saying that its not even real, that its a lie that is hurting people and needs to be stopped. also hell isnt a firey pit of lava or some shit, its not where people are punished, it a place with cities and people and demons(which arent bad btw) and of course satan. and the favour thing... ive been wondering that too. if you want more info go to www.templeofzeus.org it has extensive info on all things satanic. hope you figure things out
Hail Satan!
*Brain hurts*
OK first off there isn't anything wrong with asking questions. You found this forum, this forum has link a link to JoS, when you are curious and want knowledge then do some leg work. The answers to what you asked can be found on JoS. I find asking questions you can easily find the answers to on your own to be a bit lazy, no offense. Also you could have looked online for Spiritual Satanism. I mean no dis-respect at all, but merely seek to encourage you to find knowledge for yourself before opening up to others for individual experience. It is good to have many sources to compare before accepting it as fact, and test the knowledge yourself. I hope this helps you find what you are looking for over all.
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*Brain hurts*
OK first off there isn't anything wrong with asking questions. You found this forum, this forum has link a link to JoS, when you are curious and want knowledge then do some leg work. The answers to what you asked can be found on JoS. I find asking questions you can easily find the answers to on your own to be a bit lazy, no offense. Also you could have looked online for Spiritual Satanism. I mean no dis-respect at all, but merely seek to encourage you to find knowledge for yourself before opening up to others for individual experience. It is good to have many sources to compare before accepting it as fact, and test the knowledge yourself. I hope this helps you find what you are looking for over all.
1. do the dedication ritual...after you study
2. jesus really wasn't as "perfect" as the bible wants to picture him, ever stop to think why you don't worship his father as a perfect being....oh yea, he slaughtered millions upon millions. Jeremiah 48:10 "Cursed be he who does the Lords work remmesely, cursed be he who hold his sword from blood."
jesus (if he was real) wasn't so perfect either; take a look for yourself https://templeofzeus.org/LiturgicalTerms.php/sin ... arene.html
or
3. bad people don't go to Hell, if Magus Opus is achieved then you can enter Satans Kingdom...hell isn't the firey pit that catholism paints it to be, the bible is nothing more than corrupted spirituality. Heaven (the place of bliss and happieness) and Hell (the burning lake of fire) are mere allegorys for the crown chakra (gives off a sence of peace and bliss) and the base chakra which, when activated can be burning hot. What about ghosts? judeo-christianity can't answer for ghosts....but Satanism has an answer for everything. When one doesn't achieve Magnus Opus they are sent to wait on the astral (the spirit world overlaying this world) until they will be re-incarnated. As for those who directy oppose Satan, there is a place for them to....but it's nothing like what christians have painted it to be.
4. depends on which person you ask. Buddism is one step in the right direction because you are learning about actual spirituality.
5. just answered that
6. this typ of ignorance...wow...
--- In , Jeff Tielke <demonic_power@... wrote:
I understand where you are getting your questions but 99% of what you
just said is all Xian programming and is not true in Zevism. My suggestion
is to read/study templeofzeus.org as this will answer all of your
questions and more regarding everything. Ifyou still fell the way you
do now after some reaserch or you expect someone else to "show you the
way" then Zevism is not for you.
Hail Satan!
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 26, 2010, at 20:36, "davidliggett56" <davidliggett56@...
wrote:
Ive been very curious but i have some concerns/questions to some
things just for clarification.
1.I have been raised catholic and have been confirmed into
catholicism (im 16 by the way) and this wasnt my choice. What
happens if i join, is there something special I have to do first?
2.While i hate 95% of catholicism, i still believe that jesus had
good morals and i follow his teachings (turn the other cheek,
kindness etc.). I dont exactly believe hes the son of god.
3. If Satan created hell, why do bad people go there? Does that mean
that there is no heaven? If there is no heaven therefore there is no
such thing as angels and such, wouldnt that mean everyone goes to
hell?
4. Do Satanists believe that all religions are unjust? For example
Buddhism doesnt deny anything they just believe in peace.
5. When i die and im a Satanist and i die, i obviously go to hell,
but what happens to me? I hope im not "punished" as the christians
say, but do Satanists have a special seat?
6. Finally, when you ask for a favour, what should you be prepared
to sacrifice in turn? Because that could be a wide variety of things.
Sorry for such a long post and forgive my ignorance as I am new
here, but I thank anyone who answers these.
0
1. do the dedication ritual...after you study
2. jesus really wasn't as "perfect" as the bible wants to picture him, ever stop to think why you don't worship his father as a perfect being....oh yea, he slaughtered millions upon millions. Jeremiah 48:10 "Cursed be he who does the Lords work remmesely, cursed be he who hold his sword from blood."
jesus (if he was real) wasn't so perfect either; take a look for yourself https://templeofzeus.org/LiturgicalTerms.php/sin ... arene.html
or
3. bad people don't go to Hell, if Magus Opus is achieved then you can enter Satans Kingdom...hell isn't the firey pit that catholism paints it to be, the bible is nothing more than corrupted spirituality. Heaven (the place of bliss and happieness) and Hell (the burning lake of fire) are mere allegorys for the crown chakra (gives off a sence of peace and bliss) and the base chakra which, when activated can be burning hot. What about ghosts? judeo-christianity can't answer for ghosts....but Satanism has an answer for everything. When one doesn't achieve Magnus Opus they are sent to wait on the astral (the spirit world overlaying this world) until they will be re-incarnated. As for those who directy oppose Satan, there is a place for them to....but it's nothing like what christians have painted it to be.
4. depends on which person you ask. Buddism is one step in the right direction because you are learning about actual spirituality.
5. just answered that
6. this typ of ignorance...wow...
--- In , Jeff Tielke <demonic_power@... wrote:
I understand where you are getting your questions but 99% of what you
just said is all Xian programming and is not true in Zevism. My suggestion
is to read/study templeofzeus.org as this will answer all of your
questions and more regarding everything. Ifyou still fell the way you
do now after some reaserch or you expect someone else to "show you the
way" then Zevism is not for you.
Hail Satan!
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 26, 2010, at 20:36, "davidliggett56" <davidliggett56@...
wrote:
Ive been very curious but i have some concerns/questions to some
things just for clarification.
1.I have been raised catholic and have been confirmed into
catholicism (im 16 by the way) and this wasnt my choice. What
happens if i join, is there something special I have to do first?
2.While i hate 95% of catholicism, i still believe that jesus had
good morals and i follow his teachings (turn the other cheek,
kindness etc.). I dont exactly believe hes the son of god.
3. If Satan created hell, why do bad people go there? Does that mean
that there is no heaven? If there is no heaven therefore there is no
such thing as angels and such, wouldnt that mean everyone goes to
hell?
4. Do Satanists believe that all religions are unjust? For example
Buddhism doesnt deny anything they just believe in peace.
5. When i die and im a Satanist and i die, i obviously go to hell,
but what happens to me? I hope im not "punished" as the christians
say, but do Satanists have a special seat?
6. Finally, when you ask for a favour, what should you be prepared
to sacrifice in turn? Because that could be a wide variety of things.
Sorry for such a long post and forgive my ignorance as I am new
here, but I thank anyone who answers these.