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Such a seduction is permitted.

Charisma and charm - with them you can seduce hordes of people BECAUSE it will stem from your inner strength - powerful aura, purity of your chakras and so forth.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], Loki Tanas <loki_tanas_18@... wrote:

Don't! It isn't Satanist!
On the other hand, you can seduce them with charisma and charm!

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, maxvalmer <maxvalmer@... wrote:


From: maxvalmer <maxvalmer@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] HOW?
To: [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url]
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 4:26 PM


How can I make a person subject to me?
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You can't...it's called free wil. And you're pathetic for swooping so low as to want to force other people to be subject to your will. Those who are truly in control of themselves have no desire or reason to control the world around them.

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
-- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@... wrote:
How can I make a person subject to me?
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I dont know, making up a bullshit religion and forcing it upon others seems to work pretty godamn well. At least for a few hundred to thousand years or so.

Then people wake up and kick your ass.

-Hail Father, Lord Satan!


--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], chris riley <gods_bane_666@... wrote:

Subject or submit?

whatshisface1117 <whatshisface1117@... wrote:

Why would you want to do that?


--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?
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<td val[/IMG]Submit will do!! But how?

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, chris riley <gods_bane_666@... wrote:
From: chris riley <gods_bane_666@...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:58 AM

  Subject or submit?

whatshisface1117 <whatshisface1117@ yahoo.com wrote:

Why would you want to do that?


--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@. .. wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?
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<td val[/IMG]Thanks. I am in control of myself and not swooping so low. Read your answer again, examine yourself and see if you have lost control of yourself.    It was just a question, answer it nicley or fucken dont!!!     
--- On Wed, 9/16/09, shadowprometheus666 <shadowprometheus666@... wrote:
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From: shadowprometheus666 <shadowprometheus666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:37 AM

  You can't...it's called free wil. And you're pathetic for swooping so low as to want to force other people to be subject to your will. Those who are truly in control of themselves have no desire or reason to control the world around them.

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
-- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@.. .. wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?
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[/TD]
 
I answer as I do. I don't "lost control" I was very much in control when I wrote that and I stick by it. You can ignore it if you don't like it, but I would highly suggest you not try to control everything around you.
--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], Max Valmer <maxvalmer@... wrote:

Thanks. I am in control of myself and not swooping so low. Read your answer again, examine yourself and see if you have lost control of yourself. 
 
It was just a question, answer it nicley or fucken dont!!!   
 

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, shadowprometheus666 <shadowprometheus666@... wrote:


From: shadowprometheus666 <shadowprometheus666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url]
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:37 AM


 



You can't...it's called free wil. And you're pathetic for swooping so low as to want to force other people to be subject to your will. Those who are truly in control of themselves have no desire or reason to control the world around them.

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
-- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ .. wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?
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--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url]
I have noticed that when you meditate alot you get this charismatic aura around yourself.
It happens naturally I think


Hail Satan !!!


"siguard666" <siguard666@... wrote:
Such a seduction is permitted.

Charisma and charm - with them you can seduce hordes of people BECAUSE it will stem from your inner strength - powerful aura, purity of your chakras and so forth.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], Loki Tanas <loki_tanas_18@ wrote:

Don't! It isn't Satanist!
On the other hand, you can seduce them with charisma and charm!

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, maxvalmer <maxvalmer@ wrote:


From: maxvalmer <maxvalmer@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] HOW?
To: [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url]
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 4:26 PM


How can I make a person subject to me?
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<td val[/IMG]Alot of people have asked this question before,but thats a first for someone being called pathetic for it.That was wrong..

Once you dig
yourself so deep
in a hole,sometimes
the only way out
is to keep on digging.

"Many people will realize the truth in the end,but it will be too late."
                                    "Ye shall sorely regret it!!!!"

      SaTaN's MaRkSmAn        
                           Hail the 4 Crowns Of Hell!!!


--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Dominic Wolfheart <shadowprometheus666@... wrote:
From: Dominic Wolfheart <shadowprometheus666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 7:05 PM

  I answer as I do. I don't "lost control" I was very much in control when I wrote that and I stick by it. You can ignore it if you don't like it, but I would highly suggest you not try to control everything around you.
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, Max Valmer <maxvalmer@. .. wrote:

Thanks. I am in control of myself and not swooping so low. Read your answer again, examine yourself and see if you have lost control of yourself. 
 
It was just a question, answer it nicley or fucken dont!!!   
 

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, shadowprometheus666 <shadowprometheus66 6@... wrote:


From: shadowprometheus666 <shadowprometheus66 6@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:37 AM


 



You can't...it's called free wil. And you're pathetic for swooping so low as to want to force other people to be subject to your will. Those who are truly in control of themselves have no desire or reason to control the world around them.

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
-- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ .. wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?
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[/TD]
 
--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], "shadowprometheus666" <shadowprometheus666@... wrote:
You can't...it's called free wil. And you're pathetic for swooping so low as to want to force other people to be subject to your will. Those who are truly in control of themselves have no desire or reason to control the world around them.

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
-- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?
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You can't make anyone do anything...why would you want someone to be subject to you anyway or submit to you? Everyone has the right to choose for themselves and you shouldn't make anyone do anything that to me is called slavery....HAIL SATAN! LONG LIVE THE GODS OF OLD!
 
<td val[/IMG]PAIMON   [*]Zodiac Position: 10-14 degrees of Taurus [*]April 30th-May 4th [*]Tarot Card: 6 of Pentacles [*]Planet: Mercury [*]Metal: Mercury [*]Element: Earth [*]Plant: Bindweed [*]Candle color: Black and Dark blue [*]Rank: King [*]Paimon is a Day Demon and rules 200 legions of spirits. Part of them were of the Order of Angels and the other of Potentates. He is a Great King and very obediant unto Lucifer. </li> Paimon "gives the power to influence and control others" and teaches arts and sciences. He provides good familiars and gives one position and honor. He can reveal anything about the Earth and one's mind. When he apprears, he is attended by other Demons. Paimon is known to make noise. Someone revealed that their smoke alarm went off all by itself with no explanation when Paimon appeared after a summoning.
PAIMON IS NOT THE DEMON AZAZEL. THEY ARE BOTH SEPERATE AND DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL DEMONS. Paimom is full of energy. Loud noises and bright lights tend to make him more active. He is very colorful and was very friendly

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, ancientsoulm8 <mysweettot@... wrote:
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From: ancientsoulm8 <mysweettot@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 1:23 PM

  --- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "shadowprometheus66 6" <shadowprometheus66 6@... wrote:

You can't...it's called free wil. And you're pathetic for swooping so low as to want to force other people to be subject to your will. Those who are truly in control of themselves have no desire or reason to control the world around them.

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
-- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?



You can't make anyone do anything...why would you want someone to be subject to you anyway or submit to you? Everyone has the right to choose for themselves and you shouldn't make anyone do anything that to me is called slavery....HAIL SATAN! LONG LIVE THE GODS OF OLD!
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[/TD]
 
Charisma will do more for you in these regards than magic. You cannot make people into your slaves, it's impossible. But you can influence and charm people..but if you aren't a charismatic person then don't even bother trying to cast a spell. Are you familiar with the balancing factor?

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL

--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], Max Valmer <maxvalmer@... wrote:

Submit will do!! But how?

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, chris riley <gods_bane_666@... wrote:


From: chris riley <gods_bane_666@...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url]
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:58 AM


 



Subject or submit?

whatshisface1117 <whatshisface1117@ yahoo.com wrote:

Why would you want to do that?


--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ .. wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?
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<td val[/IMG]    You can answer as you do while other Satanists can ask as they do. But you have no right whatsoever to criticize someone you know nothing about, you dont even know the purpose of the question, HAVE YOU BOTHERED YOURSELF asking, of course no.I think you should be focused on advancing Satanism and keeping the unity among Satanists,  try to guide, share and help and leave criticism for those "who are without".   Some Demons, if so we desire, can help us gain control over others:   " PAIMON   [*] [*]Rank: King [*]Paimon is a Day Demon and rules 200 legions of spirits. Part of them were of the Order of Angels and the other of Potentates. He is a Great King and very obediant unto Lucifer. </li> Paimon "gives the power to influence and control others" and teaches arts and sciences. He provides good familiars and gives one position and honor."     From: Dominic Wolfheart <shadowprometheus666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 7:05 PM

  I answer as I do. I don't "lost control" I was very much in control when I wrote that and I stick by it. You can ignore it if you don't like it, but I would highly suggest you not try to control everything around you.
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, Max Valmer <maxvalmer@. .. wrote:

Thanks. I am in control of myself and not swooping so low. Read your answer again, examine yourself and see if you have lost control of yourself. 
 
It was just a question, answer it nicley or fucken dont!!!   
 

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, shadowprometheus666 <shadowprometheus66 6@... wrote:


From: shadowprometheus666 <shadowprometheus66 6@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:37 AM


 



You can't...it's called free wil. And you're pathetic for swooping so low as to want to force other people to be subject to your will. Those who are truly in control of themselves have no desire or reason to control the world around them.

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
-- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ .. wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?
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[/TD]
 
<td val[/IMG]Lets end the subject. I had it in my mind to control someone. The asswhole is a Muslim who usd black magick against me. It was just an idea and I wasnt completely sure whether I wanted to do it or not.   Have a great dark day.   Hail Satan

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Dominic Wolfheart <shadowprometheus666@... wrote:
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From: Dominic Wolfheart <shadowprometheus666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 4:58 PM

  Charisma will do more for you in these regards than magic. You cannot make people into your slaves, it's impossible. But you can influence and charm people..but if you aren't a charismatic person then don't even bother trying to cast a spell. Are you familiar with the balancing factor?

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, Max Valmer <maxvalmer@. .. wrote:

Submit will do!! But how?

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, chris riley <gods_bane_666@ ... wrote:


From: chris riley <gods_bane_666@ ...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:58 AM


 



Subject or submit?

whatshisface1117 <whatshisface1117@ yahoo.com wrote:

Why would you want to do that?


--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ .. wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?
Click to expand...
[/TD]
 
--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], "ancientsoulm8" <mysweettot@... wrote:
--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], "shadowprometheus666" <shadowprometheus666@ wrote:

You can't...it's called free wil. And you're pathetic for swooping so low as to want to force other people to be subject to your will. Those who are truly in control of themselves have no desire or reason to control the world around them.

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
-- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?



You can't make anyone do anything...why would you want someone to be subject to you anyway or submit to you? Everyone has the right to choose for themselves and you shouldn't make anyone do anything that to me is called slavery....HAIL SATAN! LONG LIVE THE GODS OF OLD!
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i spoke to max myself it seems this person he speaks of is a xian muslim of the worst kind... the asshole type

and with this new piece of info introduced everyone else can prob figure out all the other things
 
--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], "ancientsoulm8" <mysweettot@... wrote:
--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], "shadowprometheus666" <shadowprometheus666@ wrote:

You can't...it's called free wil. And you're pathetic for swooping so low as to want to force other people to be subject to your will. Those who are truly in control of themselves have no desire or reason to control the world around them.

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL
-- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?



You can't make anyone do anything...why would you want someone to be subject to you anyway or submit to you? Everyone has the right to choose for themselves and you shouldn't make anyone do anything that to me is called slavery....HAIL SATAN! LONG LIVE THE GODS OF OLD!
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i have learned that even if you can not make others do things you want them to do

you can always stop them from doing things you do not want them to do
on the flip side they can find ways to do the same to you

examples:
telling your parents to stop you from doing stuff

making sure your teachers know your planning something so the teachers will try to stop you

neighbors reporting you for suspicious potentially dangerous activities

people requesting legal ways to force therapy on you



you all get the idea

this is prob why max wants to force this xian to subject to his will

he is probably having a stubborn xian bothering him within legal but very problematic means
 
Fair enough. Trying to mind control for self-defense is different than what I thought your intentions were.

HS/HL
--- In [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url], Max Valmer <maxvalmer@... wrote:

Lets end the subject. I had it in my mind to control someone. The asswhole is a Muslim who usd black magick against me. It was just an idea and I wasnt completely sure whether I wanted to do it or not.
 
Have a great dark day.
 
Hail Satan

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Dominic Wolfheart <shadowprometheus666@... wrote:


From: Dominic Wolfheart <shadowprometheus666@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: [url=mailto:JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com]JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups.com[/url]
Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 4:58 PM


 



Charisma will do more for you in these regards than magic. You cannot make people into your slaves, it's impossible. But you can influence and charm people..but if you aren't a charismatic person then don't even bother trying to cast a spell. Are you familiar with the balancing factor?

-Dominic Wolfheart
HS/HL

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, Max Valmer <maxvalmer@ .. wrote:

Submit will do!! But how?

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, chris riley <gods_bane_666@ ... wrote:


From: chris riley <gods_bane_666@ ...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: HOW?
To: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:58 AM


 



Subject or submit?

whatshisface1117 <whatshisface1117@ yahoo.com wrote:

Why would you want to do that?


--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "maxvalmer" <maxvalmer@ .. wrote:

How can I make a person subject to me?
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