--- In , "dragonmage777" <dragonmage777@... wrote:
In reply to littletigerclaw 'i can't even fall asleep this way' you are not supposed to fall asleep. Thats why its called Mind AWAKE Body Asleep. Many people think just because they hear their body snoring its not working. HELLO if you are awake enough to HEAR you body snoring and you body is snoring that means your mind is awake (aware) and you body is asleep (snoring/relaxed/ASLEEP). If you can get to this stage (its a lot easier than is sounds) all you need to do is committ the Mindless (void) meditation, thinking of the empty space above your head WILL send you deeper and in an aware state. If you 'can't even fall asleep this way' then you are already more than half way there. Well done you. Dragonmage777
--- In , "littletigerclaw" <capnslappn@ wrote:
Damn I was hoping this would work 4 me 2..

oh well I just wish I would find sumthing that I could make progress in..

I can't even fall asleep this way..
Don't do the void meditation in bed. Your body is programmed from a life of use to sleep in bed. Sit in a chair. Support your head. VOID meditation is also known an 'Mindless meditation. It is the easiest simplest most powerful form of meditation. It can induce the Mind Awake Body Asleep state. Try thinking of the empty space above your head. Every time, (EVERY) time ANY thought of any kind comes to your head just go back to thinking of the empty space above your head. Do not react or interact with ANY thought, that just creates more thought. Go back to thinking of the empty space. Because there is nothing there to judge, crittize or moan about, your ego (the 4 year old that lives in you head and always demands attention) very quickly goes quiet. The speed you enter trance is amazing. First you feal warm, them a sense of being comfortable. Your body will quickly go to sleep. Your WILL here your body snore. The fact that you are aware of this means your body is asleep and you mind is awake. DON'T TRY TO DO ANYTHING. If you do you will be thinking and break the session. Just go back to the empty space. You might hear voices (you are VERY open in this state) you might even be able to see the room thru your closed eyes. Before you do a session Please call to father for protection and guidence also ask you guardian demon to come to you. Good luck. Regards Dragonmage777
--- In , "Nessa" <kenessa@ wrote:
How do you keep your mind from wondering... I try so hard nothing works if my mind does quite down next thing i kno im waking up from sleep ugh