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Help choosing a multivitamin and other supplements

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So... As I'm no nutrition specialist, I have no idea how to go about choosing a multivitamin. I always skip description because I'm not interested in advertising policies and I look directly at the ingredients.
Some information. I'm 23 have a farly active lifestyle. I do hatha yoga and kundalini yoga everyday. I do some Five Elements Qi Gong once in a while. I do additional flexibility training everyday, through dynamic stretch as well as static holds. I recently also set a strength regimen to be done twice a week (Tuesday and Friday). I will alternate a 40-day strength phase to a 40-day stamina phase, and keep cycling them, as suggested by an physical trainer I respect. I suggested to alternate this two phases because I'm preparing myself for enlistment and that is exactly what I need. Not hypertrophy, not skill develepment.
I have to purchase supplements that ship from Europe, because I'm in Europe and my country charges too much custom fees, if I purchase from outside Europe. Additionally, they take too much time to process shipments that come from outside Europe (we're talking about one month before they ship me the documents to compile, then I have to send those and they take at least another months to send me the package. They're lazy asses, I know, and thieves because import fees are thievery, given that the products belong to me and not to the government). So that's not an option. I want to spend as little as possible, but of course I won't compromise quality.
I hope I've given enough information. Now on to the products I'm considering:
• https://www.iafstore.com/eu/eurosup/spo ... -codp36159• http://nutritiondiscount.eu/categories/ ... pak-detail• http://nutritiondiscount.eu/categories/ ... pak-detail• http://nutritiondiscount.eu/categories/ ... 619-detail• http://nutritiondiscount.eu/categories/ ... 586-detail
I also want to get krill oil. Is any of these good?
• http://nutritiondiscount.eu/categories/ ... -mg-detail• https://www.iafstore.com/eu/amix/krill- ... -codp34692
And finally proteins. What kind of proteins should I get? Beef proteins, casein proteins, egg proteins, milk and egg proteins, milk proteins, whey proteins, protein blends?
If possible, I'd rather get everything from the same website. Of course, the links provided are just what I'm considering. I would like feedback on them, if possible, and I also welcome any advice and alternative suggestion. Thanks everyone in advance. 
 
HPs Shannon suggested Dr. Rons multivitamin. It's from the USA but you can get some on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pure-Natur ... B0077DW16E
I cant give you suggestions on the other things, unfortunately. 
-Shael
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:19, starduststreakoflightning@... [SSHealth]<[email protected] wrote:   So... As I'm no nutrition specialist, I have no idea how to go about choosing a multivitamin. I always skip description because I'm not interested in advertising policies and I look directly at the ingredients.
Some information. I'm 23 have a farly active lifestyle. I do hatha yoga and kundalini yoga everyday. I do some Five Elements Qi Gong once in a while. I do additional flexibility training everyday, through dynamic stretch as well as static holds. I recently also set a strength regimen to be done twice a week (Tuesday and Friday). I will alternate a 40-day strength phase to a 40-day stamina phase, and keep cycling them, as suggested by an physical trainer I respect. I suggested to alternate this two phases because I'm preparing myself for enlistment and that is exactly what I need. Not hypertrophy, not skill develepment.
I have to purchase supplements that ship from Europe, because I'm in Europe and my country charges too much custom fees, if I purchase from outside Europe. Additionally, they take too much time to process shipments that come from outside Europe (we're talking about one month before they ship me the documents to compile, then I have to send those and they take at least another months to send me the package. They're lazy asses, I know, and thieves because import fees are thievery, given that the products belong to me and not to the government). So that's not an option. I want to spend as little as possible, but of course I won't compromise quality.
I hope I've given enough information. Now on to the products I'm considering:
• https://www.iafstore.com/eu/eurosup/spo ... -codp36159• http://nutritiondiscount.eu/categories/ ... pak-detail• http://nutritiondiscount.eu/categories/ ... pak-detail• http://nutritiondiscount.eu/categories/ ... 619-detail• http://nutritiondiscount.eu/categories/ ... 586-detail
I also want to get krill oil. Is any of these good?
• http://nutritiondiscount.eu/categories/ ... -mg-detail• https://www.iafstore.com/eu/amix/krill- ... -codp34692
And finally proteins. What kind of proteins should I get? Beef proteins, casein proteins, egg proteins, milk and egg proteins, milk proteins, whey proteins, protein blends?
If possible, I'd rather get everything from the same website. Of course, the links provided are just what I'm considering. I would like feedback on them, if possible, and I also welcome any advice and alternative suggestion. Thanks everyone in advance. 
 
Thank you, Shael, but as I said excessively high custom fees and lazy handling that results in waiting over 8 weeks (after the arrival to the customs) makes buying from outside EU a deal-breaker.
 
Shael.. The .com on amazon is still the USA wevsite.. Might be vetter to look on an european amazon.
 
Not to mention that stuff you suggested is way outside my budget. If I ask my grandma to spend all that money in one shot, she comes with a broomstick to hit me on the head lol
 
I'll use this opportunity to ask about Thomson supplements. Their products are very cheap compared to other similar products on the market, and the concentration of vitamins/minerals is very high. For instance, I bought 180 tablets of multivitamin-multimineral with iron (Nuplex) for about 10 EUR. Now most of the vitamins go way above 100% of the Daily Value (one as high as 588% of DV). 
The downside is that many of their supplements contain either streatic acid, or magnesium stearate, both of which I read aren't good.  

They sell 60 capsules of Vitamin C for about 3 EUR ... the concentration of the vitamin per capsule is no more no less than 1,667% of the Daily Value! How safe is it to take such high doses? Another supplement I got from them is B50 Complex, and here too, each capsule contain high doses of vitamins. For instance, Thiamine 3,333% of the Daily Value... Any ideas on this? 

Thanks lots :)
 – Thomas


On Saturday, March 25, 2017, 9:06:43 AM GMT+1, taolvanswd@... [SSHealth] <[email protected] wrote:   Shael.. The .com on amazon is still the USA wevsite.. Might be vetter to look on an european amazon.
 
In instances where multivitamins are very cheap, and still at a very high dose, I would be wary that the ingredients are formulated to be a less bio available from of the nutrient as usually these are relatively inexpensive to produce.
 
Thomas Schweitzer .. The daily dose is often tested on other things thn humans like rats etc. If you have a defiency it is not bad to temporarily take a bit more than the max daily amount they say you need. I hope you understand what I mean.
 
I think you could've opened another conversation or just waited until someone answered me. Next time please do so. Nobody has given me an answer here yet, but that's alright, since I've only posted three days ago.
 
Foreword. I quote myself "I want to spend as little as possible, but of course I want compromise quality." That itself would have saved you a lot of time in writing your answer, Johnson_Akemi. I'm not dumb and I'm not new to life. That being said, I wouldn't purchase the supplements proposed from Shael not even if didn't have customs problem. They're overpriced. I boycott people who only care about their pockets.
Fair enough about krill oil and nutritiondiscount, even if you haven't told me whether you had a look at the ingredients or not. I also provided another option. I compared the nutrients percentages with those of Dr Ron or whatever he's called and the are about the same. At least that. Iafstore might be a better option.
There is only one health store in the area, as this is a small town and they have little concern about health alternatives. Whey is part of a 21-day nutrition plan made by a nutritionist for me. This nutritionist also owns an herbalist's shop and is not part of the fitness community as intended here. But I won't purchase his whey. I won't spend EUR 40 on protein every 3 days, just because he has no other valuable options. That would be crazy. He put 1 sachet at every major meal (breakfast, lunch and dinner) and every box only has 10 sachets. Each sachet weighs 22g. Ingredients: Lipocomplex2®(milk whey protein* enriched in amino acids) powder, Maltodextrins, anti-caking agent: silicon dioxide, Fructose, Zinc gluconate, Coenzyme Q10, Vitamin B6.

Those lies are actually true in my country, because every entry-level jobs here work through networks of (fake) "friends". Entry-level jobs here require 2+ of prior experience, unless you Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse and Goofy. Then by all means, come in. They don't even look at your resume. My aunt confirms this. She's lived for 10 years in Miami and found that finding a job there was a lot easier, while here you need to know people. I hear from my hair stylist of clients of his that go to London and easily find entry-level jobs in hospitality services. The Exams Coordinator at the English school I used to go to is in my same age range: she went to Edinburgh (which I fancy a lot) when she was ~20-21 and she easily found a job as waitress. Fast. She didn't know anyone there. In my country those you said are not lies. I could start a blog, yes. But what do I write about?

Graphic designer is not a viable option. I already tried doing that, but struggle greatly with everything that is not cropping and resizing. Not my things. Same goes for coding, which you haven't mentioned anyway. I was good in chemistry, physics and maths, yes. Latin and foreign languages as well. But know I remember very little about science stuff and Latin. I could still translate Latin, yes, but let's not not go into passive periphrastic and stuff like that. You could say "study them", but it's not worth it at the moment. I'm getting my physical conditioning ready for enlistment and I'm studying palmistry, tcm, qi gong and everything that helps me with plan B, even if there's no need for a plan B. I have nine months time. This is for how long ideally I will be taking multivitamins, cod liver oil and milk whey, before finally saying goodbye to civilian worthless life.
Afterword. I will do the researches you suggested. Thank you for sharing your opinion.
 
milk whey protein* anti-caking agent: silicon dioxide

I dont think youd want those 2 in a supplement.

Not sure but id say they interfere with being able to absorb the stuff plus silicones are known to seal off pores in your skin. Which gives you more chance on acne.
 
Just a quick note. When it comes to choosing anything, just use your intuition. Look at the pics if they are online and go with the one that feels right.

All the research etc is great but there can be unknown factors as well.
 

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