Hello to everyone

[achilleusglory]

I'm Greek and from very young age(13) I refused to be Christian, I followed the ways of my ancestors and worship our daemons. I realized what my gods represent, the pacts of the heroes who had the serpent crest or dark horse, I always felt attracted to this philosophy and Lucifer is the form of Apollo the bringer of light and knowledge. We have the same philosophy and need of high intellectual level, the geometric symbols are often used by us also the serpent crest and we renounce Christianity but I would like to ask why you call the bringer Satan? It's judeochristian "name calling" I believe. Beside our common ways what differences we have? I ask for educational purposes and I would like answers from people of certain age and knowledge, thank you very much!

 

[Yog Sothoth]

Satan is sanskrit for eternal truth. The enemy has NOTHING of there own they can only corrupt. There is nothing wrong with calling him Satan. 



  I'm Greek and from very young age(13) I refused to be Christian, I followed the ways of my ancestors and worship our daemons. I realized what my gods represent, the pacts of the heroes who had the serpent crest or dark horse, I always felt attracted to this philosophy and Lucifer is the form of Apollo the bringer of light and knowledge. We have the same philosophy and need of high intellectual level, the geometric symbols are often used by us also the serpent crest and we renounce Christianity but I would like to ask why you call the bringer Satan? It's judeochristian "name calling" I believe. Beside our common ways what differences we have? I ask for educational purposes and I would like answers from people of certain age and knowledge, thank you very much!

 

[dalightskin]

The thing is, it's just what we called him before, we all know the word Satan means 'enemy', but it kind of feels weird for me to say another word. When I call him Satan I just think of it as a nickname, It just doesnt hold any value to me, the meaning of the word I mean.

 

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http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Satan.html this will help you out. oh, and welcome family. 

  I'm Greek and from very young age(13) I refused to be Christian, I followed the ways of my ancestors and worship our daemons. I realized what my gods represent, the pacts of the heroes who had the serpent crest or dark horse, I always felt attracted to this philosophy and Lucifer is the form of Apollo the bringer of light and knowledge. We have the same philosophy and need of high intellectual level, the geometric symbols are often used by us also the serpent crest and we renounce Christianity but I would like to ask why you call the bringer Satan? It's judeochristian "name calling" I believe. Beside our common ways what differences we have? I ask for educational purposes and I would like answers from people of certain age and knowledge, thank you very much!

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[achilleusglory]

Thank for your answer, I prefer then to call him Lucifer wich it has a Hellenic meaning of Apollo. How about help me clear my thoughts with my other questions on this topic

 

[the_fire_starter666]

As Yog Sothoth said, Satan is Sanskrit in origin and positive. I would also like to add that it's not about worshiping anyone either. It's about transforming our souls with Satan and the Gods'  guidance. That's why power meditation is the most important practice here. We are all about opening the chakras and raising the kundalini and reaching Godhood.
Don't be surprised if I tell you that all ancient religions were about the same thing. They just put most of their stories in allegories having to do with kundalini, the magnum opus e.t.c. It's pretty obvious because of the mystery cults that existed. Most people thing that the ancient religions were the exoteric form they know (you know, about random rituals, worship e.t.c.) but in fact these are nothing more than allegories for the inner teachings. Thats where the Eleusinian Mysteries fit in, the priests there taught the real meaning behind the allegories to the initiates of the mysteries. You may search past posts and you'll see HP Don has explained that before.

 

[Yog Sothoth]

Apollo is Azazel not Satan. Also Apollo is an allegory for the Solar chakra (and for the Godhood) 



  As Yog Sothoth said, Satan is Sanskrit in origin and positive. I would also like to add that it's not about worshiping anyone either. It's about transforming our souls with Satan and the Gods'  guidance. That's why power meditation is the most important practice here. We are all about opening the chakras and raising the kundalini and reaching Godhood.
Don't be surprised if I tell you that all ancient religions were about the same thing. They just put most of their stories in allegories having to do with kundalini, the magnum opus e.t.c. It's pretty obvious because of the mystery cults that existed. Most people thing that the ancient religions were the exoteric form they know (you know, about random rituals, worship e.t.c.) but in fact these are nothing more than allegories for the inner teachings. Thats where the Eleusinian Mysteries fit in, the priests there taught the real meaning behind the allegories to the initiates of the mysteries. You may search past posts and you'll see HP Don has explained that before.

 

[achilleusglory]

Yes I'm aware of the mysteries and the temples used for that being destroyed, also that every famous philosopher, scientist, even kings went trhough it! The old religions are basically the same with cultural destinctions! I don't believe worshiping a certain daemon is wrong since I feel more attracted to, is it wrong for me to do the paper and blood thing? What is Athena equal deity? Please excuse me for my English

And I would like to thank you all for answering and helping me

 

[descipleofthegods13]

The dedication is definitely what you would want to do if you wish to continue on this path.
I mean, you can study all you like, but you will NOT be able to power meditate until AFTER you have dedicated period.

Them's the breaks. It's more than likely the enemy will harrass the shit out of you if you try. Also, be mindful the enemy will also try to keep you from dedicating, trust me, it's a common thing, I got harrassed while doing it as well.

Happiest day.. well I did it at night, of my life. Try to not  be too reckless when drawing blood. I used one of those office tack things that has a handle grip on it. I don't recommend that one as it was kinda difficult for me to do it with lol. Why not try a needle? Also, a good way to think of this step is this, it's a return, a bond of sorts.

The blood itself is a bond thing.

Welcome Brother.

HAIL SATAN!!

SAY IT LOUD AND PROUD!!

 

[achilleusglory]

Today i meditate and wrote on paper that I wish to be allowed to feel father and other daemons presence, I used my three runes and Venus star, I shared an amount of my blood and afterwards burn it with my candle on a silver plate, felt like laughing(happy) for a while when I was focusing to see they're image, to be honest I barely did.. When I did that I used as an idol an owl with blue eyes wich is Athena's symbol. What I did was wrong? I don't believe counts towards dedication and I need to say Apollo instead of Azazel(I realise it's the same) for example. Thank you all for your acceptance and the sharing of your knowledge

Χαίρε Εωσφόρε
(Hail Lucifer)

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Just thought you might understand this better:
Vasika oli i istoria pou ekanes ine lathos. Den ine mia efxi pou grafis ston ai vasili kai pragmatopiitai, alla exi sxesi me tis astrikes/psixikes aisthiseis. Poso mporeis na vlepeis avres kai astrika onta ine kati pou veltionetai me kathimerino dialogismo. Giafto sou leo, ksexna oti ikseres giati einai asxeta edo.
Translation: Basically the entire thing you did was wrong. It's not like a Santa Claus thing where you write down a wish and it's granted, but it's got to do with your astral/psychic senses. Your ability to see auras and contact astral beings depends on daily power meditation. That's why I'm telling you to forget what you knew before because these things don't apply here.

 

[achilleusglory]

But with what I've read so far I got the idea that's how it works, I didn't wrote a wish I wrote a "request"! I didn't made the dedication, I just experimented through meditation and wasn't really expecting results on first try. I'm dodekatheist and i see many similarities(and differences), forgetting what I know I don't think would be much of a help! Could you be more specific αδερφέ;

 

[the_fire_starter666]

@achilleusglory: To ksero, alla an ixes meletisi tantra, yoga, qi gong, apokrifismo k.t.l. den tha sou elega na ksexasis tipota giati ola afta einai xrisima kai voithoun edo. To mono provlima einai otan kapoios proerxetai apo eksoterikes thriskeies kai den exi kamia sxesi me dialogismous, kundalini yoga, den kseri ti einai ta chakra, to astriko plano, ta ouija boards, oi kartes taro k.t.l. tote prepi na ksexasi ta panta giati afta pou iksere ite einai ipervolika aplopiimena kai eksoterikevmena i apla malakies kai pio poli vlaptoun para voithoun. Imaste stin ousia pio konta s'afta para se eksoterikes thriskeies (simperilamvanomenou tou dodekatheismou, toulaxiston opos i perissoteroi ellines to antilamvanontai).
BTW to all others, all I'm saying above is that people who come from mainstream/external religions should forget what they knew because we're much closer to kundalini yoga/tantra, other Eastern disciplines and occultism.

 

[achilleusglory]

Your right I barely understand whats everything so much for practicing. I also believe for my studies so far that dodekatheism is a simplified satanism(not the real one) I study every day and I keep feeling like a child without knowledge, could you provide with something to study about these eastern practices? Thank you very much for your time and tolerance

 

[achilleusglory]

I meant won't continue the experiment until I make the dedication *****

 

[the_fire_starter666]

If you want to do the dedication, just do it as it is in the JoS site and don't change it a bit. That is, use the word Satan e.t.c. Maybe you can translate it, but the names and other things should be left as they are. You should become familiar with the name Satan first, it's important. I'm saying if you use different names, then it's not the same as the dedication we do and you won't really be considered a Dedicated Satanist. It'll just be useless.