Healthy shopping list!

[centralforce6661]

This is a pretty comprehensive list... I think if I had all of these things in my house I would struggle to eat it all, let alone afford it.. That is however beside the point as I'm sure everyone here has the intelligence to live within their means.

The first point I would like to make is that low fat and reduced fat products are actually terrible for your body, for two main reasons:

Firstly, fat brings flavour and in the absence of this natural flavour enhancer, manufacturers tend to replace it with sugars and other flavouring agents that are far worse than fat. Secondly, the more you starve your body of good quality fats, especially in foods which it is naturally rich (ie dairy), the more your body signals tissues to STORE fat rather than burning it. This equals weight gain over time, especially when one returns to eating fat after a period of not having it. The human body has a whole transport system in the small intestine dedicated to fat absorption and the very existence of the gallbladder and bile salts therein is to emulsify fats for better absorption. Fat is the best source of warming energy where carbohydrates provide energy for cellular activity. Also, fat can be turned into glucose and vice versa yet settles the stomach and produces feelings of satiety (fullness) meaning less needs to be eaten to get the same gain as carbohydrates. Of course Carbohydrates provide fibre and ready immediate energy so neither should be neglected at the expense of the other.

The second point is that recent studies into the effects of Sodium on the kidneys and hence blood pressure (the kidneys are the main centre for monitoring and control of blood volume and hence blood pressure overall) is that Sodium acts to preserve kidney tissue which ensures it functions more effectively over time and long term REDUCES hypertension (high blood pressure), not encourages it as has been the mainstream idea for many years. The idea that salt 'hardens your arteries' is false, the cause of this phenomenon is actually Low Density Lipoproteins or LDL (bad cholesterol) adhering to damaged blood vessel walls (trauma damage, high blood sugars damage and other internal causes which scar the internal surface of the blood vessels) and the inflammatory and healing response provoked by the body in response to these which create plaques that harden, narrow and reduce the elasticity of arteries.

Pass the salt!

 

[Yog Sothoth]

<td val[/IMG]I did not know that about sodium, thanks for the info Yeah it is pritty expansive... I made it that way so people could have a genaral 'idea' for a shopping list and the items they could buy
Of course like I said it all depends on budget and fitness goals.

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On Jul 30, 2015, 11:28:48 PM, billoblueskees@... [SSHealth] wrote: This is a pretty comprehensive list... I think if I had all of these things in my house I would struggle to eat it all, let alone afford it.. That is however beside the point as I'm sure everyone here has the intelligence to live within their means.

The first point I would like to make is that low fat and reduced fat products are actually terrible for your body, for two main reasons:

Firstly, fat brings flavour and in the absence of this natural flavour enhancer, manufacturers tend to replace it with sugars and other flavouring agents that are far worse than fat. Secondly, the more you starve your body of good quality fats, especially in foods which it is naturally rich (ie dairy), the more your body signals tissues to STORE fat rather than burning it. This equals weight gain over time, especially when one returns to eating fat after a period of not having it. The human body has a whole transport system in the small intestine dedicated to fat absorption and the very existence of the gallbladder and bile salts therein is to emulsify fats for better absorption. Fat is the best source of warming energy where carbohydrates provide energy for cellular activity. Also, fat can be turned into glucose and vice versa yet settles the stomach and produces feelings of satiety (fullness) meaning less needs to be eaten to get the same gain as carbohydrates. Of course Carbohydrates provide fibre and ready immediate energy so neither should be neglected at the expense of the other.

The second point is that recent studies into the effects of Sodium on the kidneys and hence blood pressure (the kidneys are the main centre for monitoring and control of blood volume and hence blood pressure overall) is that Sodium acts to preserve kidney tissue which ensures it functions more effectively over time and long term REDUCES hypertension (high blood pressure), not encourages it as has been the mainstream idea for many years. The idea that salt 'hardens your arteries' is false, the cause of this phenomenon is actually Low Density Lipoproteins or LDL (bad cholesterol) adhering to damaged blood vessel walls (trauma damage, high blood sugars damage and other internal causes which scar the internal surface of the blood vessels) and the inflammatory and healing response provoked by the body in response to these which create plaques that harden, narrow and reduce the elasticity of arteries.

Pass the salt!

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[Yog Sothoth]

<td val[/IMG]I did not know that about sodium, thanks for the info Yeah it is pritty expansive... I made it that way so people could have a genaral 'idea' for a shopping list and the items they could buy
Of course like I said it all depends on budget and fitness goals.

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On Jul 30, 2015, 11:28:48 PM, billoblueskees@... [SSHealth] wrote: This is a pretty comprehensive list... I think if I had all of these things in my house I would struggle to eat it all, let alone afford it.. That is however beside the point as I'm sure everyone here has the intelligence to live within their means.

The first point I would like to make is that low fat and reduced fat products are actually terrible for your body, for two main reasons:

Firstly, fat brings flavour and in the absence of this natural flavour enhancer, manufacturers tend to replace it with sugars and other flavouring agents that are far worse than fat. Secondly, the more you starve your body of good quality fats, especially in foods which it is naturally rich (ie dairy), the more your body signals tissues to STORE fat rather than burning it. This equals weight gain over time, especially when one returns to eating fat after a period of not having it. The human body has a whole transport system in the small intestine dedicated to fat absorption and the very existence of the gallbladder and bile salts therein is to emulsify fats for better absorption. Fat is the best source of warming energy where carbohydrates provide energy for cellular activity. Also, fat can be turned into glucose and vice versa yet settles the stomach and produces feelings of satiety (fullness) meaning less needs to be eaten to get the same gain as carbohydrates. Of course Carbohydrates provide fibre and ready immediate energy so neither should be neglected at the expense of the other.

The second point is that recent studies into the effects of Sodium on the kidneys and hence blood pressure (the kidneys are the main centre for monitoring and control of blood volume and hence blood pressure overall) is that Sodium acts to preserve kidney tissue which ensures it functions more effectively over time and long term REDUCES hypertension (high blood pressure), not encourages it as has been the mainstream idea for many years. The idea that salt 'hardens your arteries' is false, the cause of this phenomenon is actually Low Density Lipoproteins or LDL (bad cholesterol) adhering to damaged blood vessel walls (trauma damage, high blood sugars damage and other internal causes which scar the internal surface of the blood vessels) and the inflammatory and healing response provoked by the body in response to these which create plaques that harden, narrow and reduce the elasticity of arteries.

Pass the salt!

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[eljtheblancoassassin]

Thanks Yog! This will sure come in handy!

Hail Satan!

 

[shantikami]

This is a great list - thanks for sharing.

I have one warning, though...be very careful about getting canned foods, as cans and bottle tops are often lined in BPA, and many water bottles are made from it.

 

[fibrilink]

What are the negative effects of bpa? I'm not sure if my water bottles have that but now that you mention that they probably do--is it dangerous to reuse water bottles such as aquafina? Do the reusable/insulated ones have bpa?

 

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Bpa has been linked to breast cancer.

 

[Yog Sothoth]

<td val[/IMG]Lol now I feel stupid for makeing this post. Perhaps I should've done a bit more reaserch into the items in my diet before posting them.....


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On Jul 31, 2015, 1:48:10 PM, sternegucker@... [SSHealth] wrote: Bpa has been linked to breast cancer.

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[soutlaw92]

LOL @Central Force. Pass the Salt
But yes I agree, fats in foods are important for our bodies. I leave the fact in tact in my food. 

 

[shantikami]

Sorry to be so slow in responding about BPA!

Copying from Bisphenol A Health Effects :: EHHI :: Plastics that May Be Harmful to Children and Reproductive Health


 
BPA was first recognized to have estrogenic activity as a synthetic drug in 1936 long before it was used to form polycarbonate plastic and resins in the early 1950s. Interest and concern about the health effects of BPA have been growing, following reports that the health effects seen in exposed animals are also on the rise in humans. These include breast and prostate cancer, regional decline in sperm counts, abnormal penile/urethra development in males, early sexual maturation in females, increasing neurobehavioral problems, increasing prevalence of obesity and type 2 diabetes, and immune system effects.

 

[shantikami]

No, don't feel bad. You made a list that was a great springboard for discussion! Thank you for putting in the work, and for sharing. I certainly wasn't trying to degrade your efforts...just wanted to help raise awareness about BPA.

 

[shantikami]

Thank you, centralforce666, for posting the "don't freak out about BPA" message. I shouldn't be surprised it may be someone's way of making more money off of people.

 

[Taol]

There was a report on the tv last night about processed meat being declared unhealthy by the World Health Organisation (or something). I recorded it with my phone I might upload it on youtube later, with subs if I figure out how to do that.

They say it can cause cancer of the stomach, intenstines, etc. They said it was about as unhealthy as drugs, alcohol and tobacco and they recommend people not eating/taking a lot of it.

Thought I'd let you know.

 

[talonjackman]

What makes me laugh about this message (I saw it as well) is that anyone who has been paying attention to eating healthy (organic, especially) already knew this stuff. Thank you for this for those who are unaware though!

 

[paulpseudonym]

When I eat tuna or fish I incorporate cilantro into the dish. Its a natural heavy metal chelator. Or you can just drink some bentonite/zeolite clay afterwards if you're all that worried.

Last time I ate tuna I had seared tuna steaks with quinoa/brown rice with spices, butter, cilantro and lime.

 

[paulpseudonym]

It would be telling to see if they used organic, grass fed, or "conventional" meats for their study. Also with there being so many things for gut health how could they simply pinpoint meat. I don't even want to get into the list of things that effect gut health and cancer its so vast.

To me the study should read "we are pretty sure its definitely meat... Maybe."

Hail Satan!

 

[Taol]

thx for the comments, lol, yes the way they told it, it sounded like EVERYTHING would be bad unless it'd come from an animal you slaughtered yourself or if you'd buy fresh non packaged meat from a specialized place. I doubt they did mean it that way but it sure does.

Just realized I found that on a list I printed out a few years ago too. It definetely is old news.

 

[piplup_8910]

Just saw this and I was wondering if I could get some help. Im young and recently moved in with my fiance and we want to eat healthy. However we are on a budget. We got around 200$ a month for food. Does anyone have healthy recipes they could share? Infact why dont we share some recipes so everyone can try them! I put one down below.
Anyways, I could use some help with making really good and healthy food. Please share some recipes if you have some!

My secret recipe: Danoodles
You will need
-1lb of sweet italian sausage
-1lb of extra lean ground beef
-favorite italian sauce of your choosing (basil and tomato works great. If you live in the south, try Public's brand as it usually has no bad stuff in it.)
-canola oil or whatever oil of your choosing
-a box of rigitoni noodles (the spiral ones)
-sugar
-garlic clove
1.) start by opening the sausage and beef and throwing them in a pan together. Chop up a clove of garlic and throw it into the meat. Add a bit of oil and cook until brown.
2.) strain the meat. Put water on the stove to boil. You can add some oil here too to keep the noodles from sticking together. In a smaller pan, empty the sauce into it. Add three table spoons of sugar and set it on medium heat. Stir the meat into the sauce.
3.) once the water is boiling, add the noodles. Depending on how you like your noodles depends on the time, however you should pull the noodles out a bit earlier then usual. Once you strain them, let them sit for a few minutes then rinse them. This gives them a golden look and they are cooked perfectly.
4.) enjoy. A side of peas or salad works wonders with this meal!

 

[soutlaw92]

When cooking with oils, it is best to use its that are not hydrogenated and trans fats. Vegetable oils such as corn oil, canola, soy, etc are not healthy and oxide the body. They are fats that are not compatible with the body. Also many of those rancid vegetable oils are GMO.
Healthy fats to cook with are olive oil, tallow, butter, lard and palm oil. These are rich in saturated fats. Saturated fats are compatible with the body and are cells are composed of saturated fats, they help the cells maintain its integrity, feeds the hormones and endocrine system. Humans have been eating these healthy fats since the beginning. With the advent of industrial trans fat oils, disease and degeneration has increased.

 

[centralforce6661]

Can I ask why you strain the meat?

 

[piplup_8910]

To remove all the oils from it. Make it less greasy

 

[soutlaw92]

The fat that is in the meat is healthy for you. You need the fat in the meat to transport the protein in the body and cells. I understand though that many don't like food too oily but just keep it in mind that the fats in food are good for you. Some people go on very low fat diets and end up getting sick and feeling hungry all the time as well as brain fogged. A big part of brain is made of fat.

 

[centralforce6661]

Not to mention the fat soluble vitamins such as vitamin A, K also essential for brain function. Also, when your body does not get fat very often, it tends to store it rather than burn it for energy which can lead very quickly to have the opposite effect most people are after.

 

[piplup_8910]

That is true, which is why you should eat thewhole egg instead of the whites. However when it comes to meat, it is good to strain it. Sometimes I will get some of the more fatty meat to eat instead of the lean meat to get the fats that I need.

 

[soutlaw92]

"when it comes to meat it is good to strain it"
There is no need to strain all the fat from the meat. Why is it good?
That is the same as saying that pasteurizing and homogenizing milk is good. Nature doesn't make mistakes and so whatever comes with the food is for a reason. Fats occurring inside the meat, lactose inside milk and so fourth. Best to leave it as is. If you are getting enough healthy fats in your diet then I suppose it won't hurt a person to strain meat...but fat is needed to transport protein so probably not the best to strain meat all the time.

 

[S.S. 666]

That's good!
I am Italian and it sounds like a very good recipe!
I would add - many people overseas cook noodles/pasta without salt in the boiling water, and this cancels a lot of taste. We usually add 1/2 spoons of coarse salt (depending on how much water you put on fire, I'd say 1 spoon to begin with) whan the water boils, and then put in the  noodles to cook.
Enjoy!



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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 16:02:19 -0800
Subject: [SSHealth] Re: Healthy shopping list!

  Just saw this and I was wondering if I could get some help. Im young and recently moved in with my fiance and we want to eat healthy. However we are on a budget. We got around 200$ a month for food. Does anyone have healthy recipes they could share? Infact why dont we share some recipes so everyone can try them! I put one down below.
Anyways, I could use some help with making really good and healthy food. Please share some recipes if you have some!

My secret recipe: Danoodles
You will need
-1lb of sweet italian sausage
-1lb of extra lean ground beef
-favorite italian sauce of your choosing (basil and tomato works great. If you live in the south, try Public's brand as it usually has no bad stuff in it.)
-canola oil or whatever oil of your choosing
-a box of rigitoni noodles (the spiral ones)
-sugar
-garlic clove
1.) start by opening the sausage and beef and throwing them in a pan together. Chop up a clove of garlic and throw it into the meat. Add a bit of oil and cook until brown.
2.) strain the meat. Put water on the stove to boil. You can add some oil here too to keep the noodles from sticking together. In a smaller pan, empty the sauce into it. Add three table spoons of sugar and set it on medium heat. Stir the meat into the sauce.
3.) once the water is boiling, add the noodles. Depending on how you like your noodles depends on the time, however you should pull the noodles out a bit earlier then usual. Once you strain them, let them sit for a few minutes then rinse them. This gives them a golden look and they are cooked perfectly.
4.) enjoy. A side of peas or salad works wonders with this meal!