God/Godes of Spiders?

Aug 30, 2019#1

LightMangoMangosaid:
Hello, I'd like to know if there is a Daemon whose animal or symbol is spider.
My knowledge of Demons is not that good, so I took a look at all the Demons on the JoS Page but couldnt find anyone associated with spiders, although I couldve missed them.
I have a very strange relationship to spiders, in the past some weird dreams on them.

I do believe that Thoth may have something to do with them.

It has to do with the written word and spider webs but that's all I can remember.

LightMangoMangosaid:
Hello, I'd like to know if there is a Daemon whose animal or symbol is spider.
My knowledge of Demons is not that good, so I took a look at all the Demons on the JoS Page but couldnt find anyone associated with spiders, although I couldve missed them.
I have a very strange relationship to spiders, in the past some weird dreams on them.

I do believe that Thoth may have something to do with them.

It has to do with the written word and spider webs but that's all I can remember.

Sep 4, 2019#2

Goddess Serqet is Goddess that is associated with scorpions.I do not know if She has anything to do with spiders.

She's a real Goddess, btw. Not just allegory or alias of another God/Goddess.

"You will be here as long as I am here and that is forever."

Sep 30, 2021#3

Fanboysaid:
LightMangoMangosaid:
Hello, I'd like to know if there is a Daemon whose animal or symbol is spider.
My knowledge of Demons is not that good, so I took a look at all the Demons on the JoS Page but couldnt find anyone associated with spiders, although I couldve missed them.
I have a very strange relationship to spiders, in the past some weird dreams on them.
Astaroth, she "rules" the number 8, 8 fold path, 8 pointed star.. etc
Spiders are extremely special because of their curiosity. They are the only "insect" that will ever present themselves to you and try to meet you.

I had a brown recluse in my hotel room a couple months back. It scared me because i was trying to catch him and i didn't want to get bit. if necrosis sets in you are fucked. But i just couldn't hurt him so i found a way to contain him untill i brought him outside the next morning to set in the grass. all bugs and critters i will pick up and pet and put back in trees (i wont snuggle or pet the poisonous ones lol) if its a mosquito tick or flea all bets are off.

Fanboysaid:
LightMangoMangosaid:
Hello, I'd like to know if there is a Daemon whose animal or symbol is spider.
My knowledge of Demons is not that good, so I took a look at all the Demons on the JoS Page but couldnt find anyone associated with spiders, although I couldve missed them.
I have a very strange relationship to spiders, in the past some weird dreams on them.
Astaroth, she "rules" the number 8, 8 fold path, 8 pointed star.. etc
Spiders are extremely special because of their curiosity. They are the only "insect" that will ever present themselves to you and try to meet you.

I had a brown recluse in my hotel room a couple months back. It scared me because i was trying to catch him and i didn't want to get bit. if necrosis sets in you are fucked. But i just couldn't hurt him so i found a way to contain him untill i brought him outside the next morning to set in the grass. all bugs and critters i will pick up and pet and put back in trees (i wont snuggle or pet the poisonous ones lol) if its a mosquito tick or flea all bets are off.

Oct 4, 2021#4

Fanboysaid:
Shadowcatsaid:
Fanboysaid:
Spiders without exoskeletons die almost immediately from the cold, and they get picked up by birds and squirrels almost instantly if spotted.
There is a reason spider eggs spawn 10,000 babies. Spiders get merked in the wild they have no applicable defense against anything other than intelligence and venom. Even then they can be killed before they get a bite off often times.
He wouldn't let me throw him out l, he was very content with staying inside and I don't blame him. This wasn't the first spider, I actually had another one that came in one day and he was more scary looking, I watched him go from a tiny little thing that would just charge me for no reason then he would get up to me and just sit there not biting lol
all the way to a big scary fucker that made a home in my kitchen cabinets. My family is so lazy they literally never caught it. 🙃 Human society is cruel too, I was hiding from it just as much as they were hiding from the struggles of "nature" and I was just as welcomed in that place as they were. I really could never keep an animal in a cage anyone who does this has surely gone mad.
If you mean to say cats don't show emotion or just don't care or get attached to you trust me nothing could be further than the truth. I've grown up with cats and the the truth is they show alot of emotion and affection just in a different way. I have had many cats who very much wanted affection and cuddles and many even have separation anxiety. They do get very much attached to their humans but are just more independent than dogs which I am actually partial to.
In short every creature is different
Eh, no
I used the word that I wanted. Sentiment is how much comfort and effort you are willing to sacrifice for an emotional attachment.
Also try not feeding a cat and see how attached they really are, they won't go out of the way for you or members of their litter, or their parents etc.

I see. I have however been in this situation

Also try not feeding a cat and see how attached they really are, they won't go out of the way for you or members of their litter, or their parents etc.

And It was actually quite the opposite. I actually have never had cats this way, infact one that i was most attached to and vice versa actually went out of her way to find me. From the beginning she always wanted to sleep on by bed and be near me and would always sit in the hall near my room waiting for me. When we moved house it was hectic and my parents back then at first wouldn't let me take her to the new appartnment right away. as a result she actually went for several days without being fed, but i convinced them to let me go back for her..as soon as i did and called for her she came running. She never left even to go find food. Again i think this may depend on the cat. People for example also tend to overemphasize a dogs loyalty in general but i have seen a pack of stray dogs that actually tried to prey apon me (unsuccessfully) and these were also clearly previously owned by someone. So much for loyalty to humans who are usually the ones who feed them :lol: but again not every dog will do this and every animal will be different.

Parents do support kittens obviously but the kids never give back, or sacrifice their well being for siblings who struggle.

Yet save for a select few species, most young when they grow up simply leave the nest, form their own pride/packs/flocks and most never see their parents again. I truely do not believe cats are unique to this. And if you want to elaborate on insects or arachnids many of the mothers die or leave before seeing their babies. they do what they must to support life and then their mission is done. birds take turns feeding the young and when the young grow up and fly from the nest they are never to be seen again.

In captivity or in a home setting however things can be different with many animals/pets and it is quite often also so with cats. they often sleep with and play with their siblings through adulthood if relations remain well (which i personally also had) and have also seen this with the mother and even the tom! i have even heard of instances when male cats would bring home food for the kittens which is actually unusual and the kittens recognized their father and formed a bond.

I think the only exceptions to this would be gorillas, wolves and other sort of pack like animals who do stay together. Lions also to an extent but males are often kicked out of the pride to go form their own.

Fanboysaid:
Shadowcatsaid:
Fanboysaid:
Spiders without exoskeletons die almost immediately from the cold, and they get picked up by birds and squirrels almost instantly if spotted.
There is a reason spider eggs spawn 10,000 babies. Spiders get merked in the wild they have no applicable defense against anything other than intelligence and venom. Even then they can be killed before they get a bite off often times.
He wouldn't let me throw him out l, he was very content with staying inside and I don't blame him. This wasn't the first spider, I actually had another one that came in one day and he was more scary looking, I watched him go from a tiny little thing that would just charge me for no reason then he would get up to me and just sit there not biting lol
all the way to a big scary fucker that made a home in my kitchen cabinets. My family is so lazy they literally never caught it. 🙃 Human society is cruel too, I was hiding from it just as much as they were hiding from the struggles of "nature" and I was just as welcomed in that place as they were. I really could never keep an animal in a cage anyone who does this has surely gone mad.
If you mean to say cats don't show emotion or just don't care or get attached to you trust me nothing could be further than the truth. I've grown up with cats and the the truth is they show alot of emotion and affection just in a different way. I have had many cats who very much wanted affection and cuddles and many even have separation anxiety. They do get very much attached to their humans but are just more independent than dogs which I am actually partial to.
In short every creature is different
Eh, no
I used the word that I wanted. Sentiment is how much comfort and effort you are willing to sacrifice for an emotional attachment.
Also try not feeding a cat and see how attached they really are, they won't go out of the way for you or members of their litter, or their parents etc.

I see. I have however been in this situation

Also try not feeding a cat and see how attached they really are, they won't go out of the way for you or members of their litter, or their parents etc.

And It was actually quite the opposite. I actually have never had cats this way, infact one that i was most attached to and vice versa actually went out of her way to find me. From the beginning she always wanted to sleep on by bed and be near me and would always sit in the hall near my room waiting for me. When we moved house it was hectic and my parents back then at first wouldn't let me take her to the new appartnment right away. as a result she actually went for several days without being fed, but i convinced them to let me go back for her..as soon as i did and called for her she came running. She never left even to go find food. Again i think this may depend on the cat. People for example also tend to overemphasize a dogs loyalty in general but i have seen a pack of stray dogs that actually tried to prey apon me (unsuccessfully) and these were also clearly previously owned by someone. So much for loyalty to humans who are usually the ones who feed them :lol: but again not every dog will do this and every animal will be different.

Parents do support kittens obviously but the kids never give back, or sacrifice their well being for siblings who struggle.

Yet save for a select few species, most young when they grow up simply leave the nest, form their own pride/packs/flocks and most never see their parents again. I truely do not believe cats are unique to this. And if you want to elaborate on insects or arachnids many of the mothers die or leave before seeing their babies. they do what they must to support life and then their mission is done. birds take turns feeding the young and when the young grow up and fly from the nest they are never to be seen again.

In captivity or in a home setting however things can be different with many animals/pets and it is quite often also so with cats. they often sleep with and play with their siblings through adulthood if relations remain well (which i personally also had) and have also seen this with the mother and even the tom! i have even heard of instances when male cats would bring home food for the kittens which is actually unusual and the kittens recognized their father and formed a bond.

I think the only exceptions to this would be gorillas, wolves and other sort of pack like animals who do stay together. Lions also to an extent but males are often kicked out of the pride to go form their own.

Oct 6, 2023#5

The Hopi Indians of the American Southwest have Kokyangwuit, a "grandmother/spider" goddess. Apparently she created humans and also lead them into the world. Likewise, in West Africa there is Anansi, a mostly favorable spider goddess.

Oct 9, 2023#6

Xenophonsaid:
The Hopi Indians of the American Southwest have Kokyangwuit, a "grandmother/spider" goddess. Apparently she created humans and also lead them into the world. Likewise, in West Africa there is Anansi, a mostly favorable spider goddess.

Same with the Cherokees, they have a "Water Spider" although I'm not sure why Cherokee mythology claims her as having brought fire to the earth inhabitants.

Oriental American Temple Member, lover of Oriental paganism and the Oriental race.

Father Zeus in Asiatic civilizations:
China: Jade Emperor (玉皇), Huangdi (黃帝), Shangdi (上帝), Shìtí Huányīn (釋提桓因)
Japan: Raijin (雷神), Taishakuten (帝釈天), Izanagi no-Mikoto (伊邪那岐命)
Korea: Hawneunim (하느님), Jeseokcheon (제석천), Okhwang Sangje (옥황상제/玉皇上帝)
Vietnam: Thích Đề Hoàn Nhân (釋提桓因)
Philippines: Batala Maykapal, Sakla
Indonesia/Malaysia: Batara Indra

Maxis Orientis is my old account.

Xenophonsaid:
The Hopi Indians of the American Southwest have Kokyangwuit, a "grandmother/spider" goddess. Apparently she created humans and also lead them into the world. Likewise, in West Africa there is Anansi, a mostly favorable spider goddess.

Same with the Cherokees, they have a "Water Spider" although I'm not sure why Cherokee mythology claims her as having brought fire to the earth inhabitants.

Dec 8, 2023#7

There is Akkawbashia, a spider-goddess, venerated as an aspect of Lilith by at least some calling themselves Satanists. These are not, however, the sort of people to inspire a lot of confidence. The group in question had a practice of sacrificing cats, apparently thinking this gave them badass cred. In addition, at least one rite called for "the skull of a black dog," which hints at canine sacrifice as well. (The group leader's eventual suicide might be styled a "down payment.") I have tried to get outside information about Akkawbashia from other sources and have come up dry. So the deity might be peculiar to a hole-in-the-wall sect.

Dec 12, 2023#8

LightMangoMangosaid:
Hello, I'd like to know if there is a Daemon whose animal or symbol is spider.
My knowledge of Demons is not that good, so I took a look at all the Demons on the JoS Page but couldnt find anyone associated with spiders, although I couldve missed them.
I have a very strange relationship to spiders, in the past some weird dreams on them.

The spider is associated with Lilith, and more generally with the Mother Goddess.
It's a messenger from her.

LightMangoMangosaid:
Hello, I'd like to know if there is a Daemon whose animal or symbol is spider.
My knowledge of Demons is not that good, so I took a look at all the Demons on the JoS Page but couldnt find anyone associated with spiders, although I couldve missed them.
I have a very strange relationship to spiders, in the past some weird dreams on them.

The spider is associated with Lilith, and more generally with the Mother Goddess.
It's a messenger from her.

Dec 20, 2023#9

Lucifer en femmesaid:
LightMangoMangosaid:
Hello, I'd like to know if there is a Daemon whose animal or symbol is spider.
My knowledge of Demons is not that good, so I took a look at all the Demons on the JoS Page but couldnt find anyone associated with spiders, although I couldve missed them.
I have a very strange relationship to spiders, in the past some weird dreams on them.
The spider is associated with Lilith, and more generally with the Mother Goddess.
It's a messenger from her.

Since I have learned and thought on the Lilith tie-in during the past several months, my lifelong aversion to spiders has shrunk to nil. (When I was younger, the aversion was what gets called a "phobia" by whiny-bitch boys. Some sustained exposure to spiders in the Deep South whilst in the military considerably lessened my spider-jitters, while still leaving me uneasy. That has now vanished. Which is still a hell of a note: my big "war story," runs, "Waal, youngster---there I was. Black widder in front of me. Black-widder behint me. Garden spiders on both the flanks. What's a body ter do?...")

Lucifer en femmesaid:
LightMangoMangosaid:
Hello, I'd like to know if there is a Daemon whose animal or symbol is spider.
My knowledge of Demons is not that good, so I took a look at all the Demons on the JoS Page but couldnt find anyone associated with spiders, although I couldve missed them.
I have a very strange relationship to spiders, in the past some weird dreams on them.
The spider is associated with Lilith, and more generally with the Mother Goddess.
It's a messenger from her.

Since I have learned and thought on the Lilith tie-in during the past several months, my lifelong aversion to spiders has shrunk to nil. (When I was younger, the aversion was what gets called a "phobia" by whiny-bitch boys. Some sustained exposure to spiders in the Deep South whilst in the military considerably lessened my spider-jitters, while still leaving me uneasy. That has now vanished. Which is still a hell of a note: my big "war story," runs, "Waal, youngster---there I was. Black widder in front of me. Black-widder behint me. Garden spiders on both the flanks. What's a body ter do?...")

Dec 20, 2023#10

This is the targeted message.

Xenophonsaid:
Since I have learned and thought on the Lilith tie-in during the past several months, my lifelong aversion to spiders has shrunk to nil. (When I was younger, the aversion was what gets called a "phobia" by whiny-bitch boys. Some sustained exposure to spiders in the Deep South whilst in the military considerably lessened my spider-jitters, while still leaving me uneasy. That has now vanished. Which is still a hell of a note: my big "war story," runs, "Waal, youngster---there I was. Black widder in front of me. Black-widder behint me. Garden spiders on both the flanks. What's a body ter do?...")

When I was little I had an Opilion on the ceiling of my room and I accepted that it lived on my ceiling.

Now all the other spiders that came into my room without permission are dead, crushed by my shoe and fed to the insects or put in the trash.

I don't like spiders.

Xenophonsaid:
Since I have learned and thought on the Lilith tie-in during the past several months, my lifelong aversion to spiders has shrunk to nil. (When I was younger, the aversion was what gets called a "phobia" by whiny-bitch boys. Some sustained exposure to spiders in the Deep South whilst in the military considerably lessened my spider-jitters, while still leaving me uneasy. That has now vanished. Which is still a hell of a note: my big "war story," runs, "Waal, youngster---there I was. Black widder in front of me. Black-widder behint me. Garden spiders on both the flanks. What's a body ter do?...")

When I was little I had an Opilion on the ceiling of my room and I accepted that it lived on my ceiling.

Now all the other spiders that came into my room without permission are dead, crushed by my shoe and fed to the insects or put in the trash.

I don't like spiders.