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Memorie_BE

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I really hope I don't get flamed posting this (if I'm even allowed to post this) as I am genuinely curious and want to hear the perspectives of y'all.

So I've seen a lot of Nazi visuals and symbolism in this server and I just wanted to know why exactly. I am completely aware that one of the enemies here are the yehuborim, trust me, I know and understand that the Nazis also had that enemy. What I'm confused about, however, is that wouldn't advocating the actions of the Nazis be technically hypocritical when looking in a historical lens?

Here me out: If I have my facts correct, I believe that the yehuborim are the enemy in the first place due to the torture and discrimination that is directed at Zevists today and even worse centuries back. yehuborim would torture and kill innocent people who disagreed with their beliefs (again, if I have my facts correct) and are therefor the enemy. So then why do we advocate what the Nazis did to people who just happened to share the same beliefs as the ones that tortured and killed people? Some people who were gassed by Nazis didn't even believe in what their ancestors believed, but were still punished. These are the same actions that the historical yehuborim did, so wouldn't that be hypocritical in a sense?

As someone who is obsessed with philosophy, I understand that every side has the innocent and the guilty, this is also supported by the fact that I knew a Yehuborim person in high school that was just the sweetest thing and even loved death metal (a great mix). I think it's fair to label these people more as misguided and should never be punished as it's not their fault for being born in a family with those beliefs.

Again, I'm not trying to side with the yehuborim or trying to mediate, I'm just curios about the deeper philosophy of this, that's all.
 
Memorie_BE said:
I really hope I don't get flamed posting this (if I'm even allowed to post this) as I am genuinely curious and want to hear the perspectives of y'all.

So I've seen a lot of Nazi visuals and symbolism in this server and I just wanted to know why exactly. I am completely aware that one of the enemies here are the yehuborim, trust me, I know and understand that the Nazis also had that enemy. What I'm confused about, however, is that wouldn't advocating the actions of the Nazis be technically hypocritical when looking in a historical lens?

Here me out: If I have my facts correct, I believe that the yehuborim are the enemy in the first place due to the torture and discrimination that is directed at Zevists today and even worse centuries back. yehuborim would torture and kill innocent people who disagreed with their beliefs (again, if I have my facts correct) and are therefor the enemy. So then why do we advocate what the Nazis did to people who just happened to share the same beliefs as the ones that tortured and killed people? Some people who were gassed by Nazis didn't even believe in what their ancestors believed, but were still punished. These are the same actions that the historical yehuborim did, so wouldn't that be hypocritical in a sense?

As someone who is obsessed with philosophy, I understand that every side has the innocent and the guilty, this is also supported by the fact that I knew a Yehuborim person in high school that was just the sweetest thing and even loved death metal (a great mix). I think it's fair to label these people more as misguided and should never be punished as it's not their fault for being born in a family with those beliefs.

Again, I'm not trying to side with the yehuborim or trying to mediate, I'm just curios about the deeper philosophy of this, that's all.
Read:

The Real WW2 - https://satanslibrary.org/666BlackSun/Real_Holocaust.html

And also:
https://666pages.com/SoaringEagle666/ToZ-Updates/ExposingSlander/WW2.html
 
Memorie_BE said:
I guess that makes sense. Though as a Skeptic, I can't help but feel, well, skeptical. I completely understand that what we know about the WW2 could be false (that's the whole part of Skepticism after all), but that also means that anything referring to the WW2 could be false and I have absolutely no way of verifying which side is correct. I get that there are sources, but the other side has sources too and I don't know which sources are fabricated. I can't believe everything I read on the internet after-all.

Also, I know some people that use Nazism as an excuse to be racist and stuff, so that's another thing that makes me a bit cautious about the whole subject.
The difference is, their "sources" and "proofs" for WW2 can be debunked easily, did you read the links I sent you?
 
Memorie_BE said:
Also, I know some people that use Nazism as an excuse to be racist and stuff, so that's another thing that makes me a bit cautious about the whole subject.
1. Define “racist”
2. What is bad about being “racist”?
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
Memorie_BE said:
Also, I know some people that use Nazism as an excuse to be racist and stuff, so that's another thing that makes me a bit cautious about the whole subject.
1. Define “racist”
2. What is bad about being “racist”?

Racist is when you discriminate against certain people just because of their ethnicity. It's bad because it's essentially hating people just because of how their ancestors evolved to adapt to where they inhabit, it's not like they can control where they were born, like I can't control that I'm Australian.
 
Memorie_BE said:
The Outlaw Torn said:
Memorie_BE said:
Also, I know some people that use Nazism as an excuse to be racist and stuff, so that's another thing that makes me a bit cautious about the whole subject.
1. Define “racist”
2. What is bad about being “racist”?

Racist is when you discriminate against certain people just because of their ethnicity. It's bad because it's essentially hating people just because of how their ancestors evolved to adapt to where they inhabit, it's not like they can control where they were born, like I can't control that I'm Australian.

That is a Marxist way of ascribing towards something natural that exists and has existed since the beginning.

The non-Marxist way of describing a (((Neo-Nazi))) i.e. hateful of other races is the key word: Bigot

Bigot: A person who hates another race based on a variety of reasons.

Let me give you a better definition of racism towards the NatSoc/Zevism way.

Racist: A person who understands the differences between races and sub-races, cultures and sub-cultures, Nations and Sub-Nations, Tribes and sub-Tribes.

Racism: The intellectual study of a variety of variables within the framework defined as the Human Race/Civilization pertaining to race/racial properties i.e. the construct evolution of how races are in nature, habitat, and variably a collective study of the interaction between these Humans both towards their own race, sub-race and other races and sub-races.

In other words RACISM would be a higher up function of a smarter person. Educated! for example knowing the differences between a Congoloid black person and a Dravidian black person i.e. African Black vs Hindustani Black as an example. Or for example knowing that fairer Aryans are more Northern or have more Northern features than a Mediterranean or Southern Aryan. Another good example understanding that except Iranian and a few other White Arabs most White Arabs are Whiter or more towards a White spectrum but are not European Compatible neither in relation to sexual i.e. sex for pleasure nor reproductive i.e. sex would produce a new Arabo-Euro Whiter Semi-Aryan. Knowing that the more Aryanized non-Euro compatible Arabs are their own new Arabian sub-race thus they mix with a partner of equal or greater Whiteness of an Arabic White i.e. mix with their own sub-race to procure the new racial construct. In Historicity Arabs were more Aryanized and Euro-compatible but centuries of turmoil in the Middle East killed off the Whiteness like Alexander the Great, Roxanne was a desert dwelling woman who was Euro-compatible she was White enough to be with a European.

Like I said except a noticeable number of Iranian Whites and some true White Arabs rarity these days, Arabs = their own O.R.I.O.N. sub-race.(ORION = Our Race is Our Nation).

In fact ORION is too limited it's too involved with the Racial-NATION make up but there is also ORIOT Our Race is Our Tribe. Basically ORION is a popular NSy way of describing people but it fails to take into account down to the individual and up to the National which would be a Tribal property. I'm not talking about race-mixing, sub-race mixing, nor inbreeding in a tribal setting but I can see why some people might say those people over there are always hanging out together in this part of the city. So they aren't the National construct certainly they are the National component but in the lower levels in the concrete jungle tribal rules can still be applied hence ORIOT.

Except inasmuch avoidance of pleasure and or reproduction of race mixing. There is also sub-race mixing like the 7 or 8 major Aryan Sub-races and how Nord with Nord or Dinaric with Dinaric or darker Aryans i.e. dark eye/dark hair.

For example both figure of the past and figure of the past are perfect examples. They are often used as a punching bag by the mainstream to show figure of the past is not Nordic 'n' sheit to which I say no but at least H and H wanted to preserve the seed kernel of the Aryan race.

For example blacks in Africa posses even villages just a few miles away with racial differences of the sub-races and main races of the black. For example the primitiveness of many Africans shows a classic reflect of modernized places who study racial studies. For example you have XYZ village and 12 miles away ABC village is around and the ORION is Congoloid black but sub-race wise ORIONation isn't represented by the Black Congoloid ONLY but rather the Black race. Rather ORION is more of a supportive expression but doesn't describe the sub-races hence ORIOT. So Russian Nation, Aryan obviously White territory but large swaths of Russian or Slavs are bigger features in categories of the Aryan races and the Nordics whom a larger number exist in a certain way show Nordicism but with slightly bigger features perhaps a more older Nordic or the Scythians of the time the Russ's were more of a less streamlined Nordic. Maybe there could have even been evolution or more finer features in the Europa section than near the Russian area. I don't have the information but except racial comparability and compatibility they are still Nordics for those are of that sub-race whether Europa-sized or from a more primitive construct of Nordics.

And the same can be said for other nations and races usually the sub-race is the one that denotes the ground level while the Nation implies a conglomerate state. Ex: Japan hence Asian hence Euro-Asian(Not European compatible no not to spread the waifu wife cuckery to another race) but they are the nation of Japanese an Asian with odd eyes that are specific or more specific to their nation and speak the language of a race. BUT WHILE that is ORION, ORIOT expresses the sub-racial template. For example Okinawan people have differences and even have an ORION/ORIOT property such as local custom, culture, and even things named after them or gained fame by offering something to their nation and World. BUT Okinawa is not a Nation it's part of Japan it's a sub-nation a district or province of Japan so the ORIOT principle lines up more with the sub-racial aspect. Same for Germany as figure of the past puts it the battle in the judenpresse between Prussian Germans and Bavarian Germans as the encounter later on during his Munich days and questioning why this is a thing. In other words figure of the past expresses the ORIOT principle very well.

Eugenics: The study and preservation of a variety of genetic factors of the make up a race and sub-race. Technically as HP.Zevios Metathronos put it[elaborating/paraphrasing and expanding] the understanding of racial history to understand the historical make up of A person individual ORIOT(race/sub-race) or understanding history of a large group of people and elaborating the who, what, where, when, and whys of said group.

Dysgenic: The total annihilation or the attempt to annihilate racial genetic mapping or the falsification of genetic maps for the act of marxist subversion.

In the end to be racist/eugenic is to be smart or smarter or more understanding. Think of it like a intellectual property it's not animalistic nor primitive nor old nor it's just old crap people told people to fuck with them cause fuck society and rules.

Rather quiet the opposite racial/nation/tribal understanding is the heart of the Universal compendium of knowledge on "What makes us special, different, and unique?" the answer: Because Humans are not Animals and have been elevated to a higher level they must bring these higher faculties down to the lower levels to give them understanding as to the who, what, where, when, and why of Humanity and it's course of existence. IF man wishes to survive in this Universe the very things that are said to be negative by fools need to be fully comprehended. It's like the Church imprisoning Galileo all cause he said the opposite. These very fools promote anti-science and anti-knowledge even countering knowledge with foolish non-sense.

It's normal to be "RACIST". In fact it's so normal it begs the question how we even forgot it in the first place or why it's deemed bad. Oh wait cause we got tribal problems with another tribe, you know who I'm talking about. The elephant in the room in these discussions. In fact the funniest part this particular tribe employs every method of racialism good and bad for the tactical and strategic domination.

We would classify as Racial Realists or Racial understanders or parley into racialist understandings.

In simplest terms to study the WW2 regime/Zevism way of race is to INCREASE your Racial Literary skills.

Racial Literacy is what we want i.e. understanding the technology, mechanism, and apparatus of racialist discourse.

It's akin to one of our members she replied to my post in the best way possible. The entire point of studying the Axis from their perspective is to be redpilled from watching enough to push you to do research. No one in their right mind is expect you to understand EVERY tidbit of WW2 down to the very bootprint a soldier did in this battlefield. Rather take enough of a general consensus to go "Hey figure of the past and company aren't bad or evil or malefic. I'm being lied to".

Same for Racial discourse you must (STUDY) and (APPLY) the mind (LOGIC) to Racial discourse. You must educate to bring your Racial Literacy up not unlike a video game.
 
Gear88 said:
Memorie_BE said:
The Outlaw Torn said:
1. Define “racist”
2. What is bad about being “racist”?

Racist is when you discriminate against certain people just because of their ethnicity. It's bad because it's essentially hating people just because of how their ancestors evolved to adapt to where they inhabit, it's not like they can control where they were born, like I can't control that I'm Australian.

That is a Marxist way of ascribing towards something natural that exists and has existed since the beginning.

The non-Marxist way of describing a (((Neo-Nazi))) i.e. hateful of other races is the key word: Bigot

Bigot: A person who hates another race based on a variety of reasons.

Let me give you a better definition of racism towards the NatSoc/Zevism way.

Racist: A person who understands the differences between races and sub-races, cultures and sub-cultures, Nations and Sub-Nations, Tribes and sub-Tribes.

Racism: The intellectual study of a variety of variables within the framework defined as the Human Race/Civilization pertaining to race/racial properties i.e. the construct evolution of how races are in nature, habitat, and variably a collective study of the interaction between these Humans both towards their own race, sub-race and other races and sub-races.

In other words RACISM would be a higher up function of a smarter person. Educated! for example knowing the differences between a Congoloid black person and a Dravidian black person i.e. African Black vs Hindustani Black as an example. Or for example knowing that fairer Aryans are more Northern or have more Northern features than a Mediterranean or Southern Aryan. Another good example understanding that except Iranian and a few other White Arabs most White Arabs are Whiter or more towards a White spectrum but are not European Compatible neither in relation to sexual i.e. sex for pleasure nor reproductive i.e. sex would produce a new Arabo-Euro Whiter Semi-Aryan. Knowing that the more Aryanized non-Euro compatible Arabs are their own new Arabian sub-race thus they mix with a partner of equal or greater Whiteness of an Arabic White i.e. mix with their own sub-race to procure the new racial construct. In Historicity Arabs were more Aryanized and Euro-compatible but centuries of turmoil in the Middle East killed off the Whiteness like Alexander the Great, Roxanne was a desert dwelling woman who was Euro-compatible she was White enough to be with a European.

Like I said except a noticeable number of Iranian Whites and some true White Arabs rarity these days, Arabs = their own O.R.I.O.N. sub-race.(ORION = Our Race is Our Nation).

In fact ORION is too limited it's too involved with the Racial-NATION make up but there is also ORIOT Our Race is Our Tribe. Basically ORION is a popular NSy way of describing people but it fails to take into account down to the individual and up to the National which would be a Tribal property. I'm not talking about race-mixing, sub-race mixing, nor inbreeding in a tribal setting but I can see why some people might say those people over there are always hanging out together in this part of the city. So they aren't the National construct certainly they are the National component but in the lower levels in the concrete jungle tribal rules can still be applied hence ORIOT.

Except inasmuch avoidance of pleasure and or reproduction of race mixing. There is also sub-race mixing like the 7 or 8 major Aryan Sub-races and how Nord with Nord or Dinaric with Dinaric or darker Aryans i.e. dark eye/dark hair.

For example both figure of the past and figure of the past are perfect examples. They are often used as a punching bag by the mainstream to show figure of the past is not Nordic 'n' sheit to which I say no but at least H and H wanted to preserve the seed kernel of the Aryan race.

For example blacks in Africa posses even villages just a few miles away with racial differences of the sub-races and main races of the black. For example the primitiveness of many Africans shows a classic reflect of modernized places who study racial studies. For example you have XYZ village and 12 miles away ABC village is around and the ORION is Congoloid black but sub-race wise ORIONation isn't represented by the Black Congoloid ONLY but rather the Black race. Rather ORION is more of a supportive expression but doesn't describe the sub-races hence ORIOT. So Russian Nation, Aryan obviously White territory but large swaths of Russian or Slavs are bigger features in categories of the Aryan races and the Nordics whom a larger number exist in a certain way show Nordicism but with slightly bigger features perhaps a more older Nordic or the Scythians of the time the Russ's were more of a less streamlined Nordic. Maybe there could have even been evolution or more finer features in the Europa section than near the Russian area. I don't have the information but except racial comparability and compatibility they are still Nordics for those are of that sub-race whether Europa-sized or from a more primitive construct of Nordics.

And the same can be said for other nations and races usually the sub-race is the one that denotes the ground level while the Nation implies a conglomerate state. Ex: Japan hence Asian hence Euro-Asian(Not European compatible no not to spread the waifu wife cuckery to another race) but they are the nation of Japanese an Asian with odd eyes that are specific or more specific to their nation and speak the language of a race. BUT WHILE that is ORION, ORIOT expresses the sub-racial template. For example Okinawan people have differences and even have an ORION/ORIOT property such as local custom, culture, and even things named after them or gained fame by offering something to their nation and World. BUT Okinawa is not a Nation it's part of Japan it's a sub-nation a district or province of Japan so the ORIOT principle lines up more with the sub-racial aspect. Same for Germany as figure of the past puts it the battle in the judenpresse between Prussian Germans and Bavarian Germans as the encounter later on during his Munich days and questioning why this is a thing. In other words figure of the past expresses the ORIOT principle very well.

Eugenics: The study and preservation of a variety of genetic factors of the make up a race and sub-race. Technically as HP.Zevios Metathronos put it[elaborating/paraphrasing and expanding] the understanding of racial history to understand the historical make up of A person individual ORIOT(race/sub-race) or understanding history of a large group of people and elaborating the who, what, where, when, and whys of said group.

Dysgenic: The total annihilation or the attempt to annihilate racial genetic mapping or the falsification of genetic maps for the act of marxist subversion.

In the end to be racist/eugenic is to be smart or smarter or more understanding. Think of it like a intellectual property it's not animalistic nor primitive nor old nor it's just old crap people told people to fuck with them cause fuck society and rules.

Rather quiet the opposite racial/nation/tribal understanding is the heart of the Universal compendium of knowledge on "What makes us special, different, and unique?" the answer: Because Humans are not Animals and have been elevated to a higher level they must bring these higher faculties down to the lower levels to give them understanding as to the who, what, where, when, and why of Humanity and it's course of existence. IF man wishes to survive in this Universe the very things that are said to be negative by fools need to be fully comprehended. It's like the Church imprisoning Galileo all cause he said the opposite. These very fools promote anti-science and anti-knowledge even countering knowledge with foolish non-sense.

It's normal to be "RACIST". In fact it's so normal it begs the question how we even forgot it in the first place or why it's deemed bad. Oh wait cause we got tribal problems with another tribe, you know who I'm talking about. The elephant in the room in these discussions. In fact the funniest part this particular tribe employs every method of racialism good and bad for the tactical and strategic domination.

We would classify as Racial Realists or Racial understanders or parley into racialist understandings.

In simplest terms to study the WW2 regime/Zevism way of race is to INCREASE your Racial Literary skills.

Racial Literacy is what we want i.e. understanding the technology, mechanism, and apparatus of racialist discourse.

It's akin to one of our members she replied to my post in the best way possible. The entire point of studying the Axis from their perspective is to be redpilled from watching enough to push you to do research. No one in their right mind is expect you to understand EVERY tidbit of WW2 down to the very bootprint a soldier did in this battlefield. Rather take enough of a general consensus to go "Hey figure of the past and company aren't bad or evil or malefic. I'm being lied to".

Same for Racial discourse you must (STUDY) and (APPLY) the mind (LOGIC) to Racial discourse. You must educate to bring your Racial Literacy up not unlike a video game.

Tomayto tomahto.
 
Memorie_BE said:
I read a bit, but I'm not really the best at reading.

I noticed one part that said that they would have to cremate 5 bodies an hours for their facts to be possible and that it wasn't possible, though couldn't it also be possible that their using bigger furnaces that can store 10 people at once? That part confused me a little. I mean, if I were to plan a mass genocide of millions where I cremate the victims, I wouldn't use small furnaces that holds one person at a time because that would be inefficient imo. I dunno, I'm probably just misinterpreting what they mean by a mile and a half. I'm also not the most trivial at basic history.
Well you are not going to reach a relevant conclusion if you don't spend a decent amount of time in doing a good research. Regarding the cremations, the given numbers are in millions, to cremate so many bodies in couple years probably entire buildings full of furnaces are needed. There was a documentary purged from youtube multiple times that was about this thing. I think is this one most likely.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/XUAvlEDtoDuL/

Memorie_BE said:
I can't believe everything I read on the internet after-all.
Most sources I provided, especially what exists on CODOH (Comitee for Open Debate on WW2) and IHR (Institute for Historical Review), are mainly based on books, and most informations that you find on the internet about WW2 are also taken from books, so it makes little sense to say that you cannot believe everything you read on the internet about this particular event, because in reality most of what you will read about WW2 on the internet is information taken from books that existed at the time or were written afterwards.

Memorie_BE said:
Also, I know some people that use Nazism as an excuse to be racist and stuff, so that's another thing that makes me a bit cautious about the whole subject.
That's very true, however people who use Nazism as a justification to be racist are deluded and brainwashed with mainstream history, because in reality the Nazists were not racist. There is a difference between unjustified hate for people or other races, and preventing people from race-mixing, because that was the case in Nazi Germany, they must have had laws to forbid race mixing, which is a whole different matter is a natural fact which is reflected in nature where animals don't instictively race mixing. The Apartheid regime in South Africa is another example, there were racial laws preventing race mixing, yet at the time South Africa was the country with the most Black millionaires, and were Blacks were having the best lives comparing to the rest of Africa. Yet we have been led to believe the Apartheid regime was racist and opressing the Black population, is a very similar case.

The Outlaw Torn said:
2. What is bad about being “racist”?
Racism is bad and illogical because there is no justification for blindly hating a group of people only because they are of different race. `Racialism` however is different and that's what the Nazis were, racialists and not racists. Most people are brainwashed by the mainstream education and mass media to confuse the two terms and not make any difference. Most people outside have a very poor understanding on racial matters to the point where they even confuse `xenophobia` with `racism` wherever is the case. I've been hearing many examples of how `racist` Westerners are again people from Eastern Europe who move in their countries but they all of the same race. The only logical conclusion is that current education and mass media are responsble for this mass twisted perception because these were the only places where most people have taken their `historical views` from.
 
Memorie_BE said:
The Outlaw Torn said:
Memorie_BE said:
Also, I know some people that use Nazism as an excuse to be racist and stuff, so that's another thing that makes me a bit cautious about the whole subject.
1. Define “racist”
2. What is bad about being “racist”?

Racist is when you discriminate against certain people just because of their ethnicity. It's bad because it's essentially hating people just because of how their ancestors evolved to adapt to where they inhabit, it's not like they can control where they were born, like I can't control that I'm Australian.

Part of Zevism is working with nature and natural limitations, which includes realizing the inherent limitations people have on both an individual and population-wide level. However, while we respect natural differences, we also are meant to work together with the other races. So we could be defined as "racist", but not hateful.

The Gods created each race to reflect unique elemental properties. Whites are generally balanced, Asians exemplify air and water, while Blacks exemplify earth and fire. The subraces are generally mixes of these.

These unique racial properties allow each population to be specialized within certain activities. For example, Blacks appear naturally athletic (fire), whilst also having a very good sense of music and rhythm (earth). Yet, when this same soul becomes degenerated, we get people who are overly materialistic (bad earth) and willing to commit aggressive crimes (bad fire).

Another tenet of Zevism is that of reincarnation, where our soul can return after death so that we can continue to advance, or continue to degenerate in a worst-case scenario. This is where karma and our past actions come into play.

In regards to race and its relationship with karma, all souls reincarnate into the race and species of their origin. If you are a White person, you were never a wolf in a past life, and you were never an Asian person either. This is why it is critical that each person advances themselves through meditation, and why our birth conditions are not just about "luck", but about the current state of our soul and racial family.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Memorie_BE said:
The Outlaw Torn said:
1. Define “racist”
2. What is bad about being “racist”?

Racist is when you discriminate against certain people just because of their ethnicity. It's bad because it's essentially hating people just because of how their ancestors evolved to adapt to where they inhabit, it's not like they can control where they were born, like I can't control that I'm Australian.

Part of Zevism is working with nature and natural limitations, which includes realizing the inherent limitations people have on both an individual and population-wide level. However, while we respect natural differences, we also are meant to work together with the other races. So we could be defined as "racist", but not hateful.

The Gods created each race to reflect unique elemental properties. Whites are generally balanced, Asians exemplify air and water, while Blacks exemplify earth and fire. The subraces are generally mixes of these.

These unique racial properties allow each population to be specialized within certain activities. For example, Blacks appear naturally athletic (fire), whilst also having a very good sense of music and rhythm (earth). Yet, when this same soul becomes degenerated, we get people who are overly materialistic (bad earth) and willing to commit aggressive crimes (bad fire).

Another tenet of Zevism is that of reincarnation, where our soul can return after death so that we can continue to advance, or continue to degenerate in a worst-case scenario. This is where karma and our past actions come into play.

In regards to race and its relationship with karma, all souls reincarnate into the race and species of their origin. If you are a White person, you were never a wolf in a past life, and you were never an Asian person either. This is why it is critical that each person advances themselves through meditation, and why our birth conditions are not just about "luck", but about the current state of our soul and racial family.
Exactly. "Racism" means unjust discrimination, but it is often attributed to any kind of racial discrimination, which is ridiculous. Discrimination really only means to treat people differently. If this is based on real facts, then it is justified and actually good.

To give an example, suppose you were sending a science expedition to the Sahara desert, and you need to choose a team. If everyone has equal merit, should you choose White people or Black people? In this case Black people are a better choice because dark skin is objectively more resistant to bright sunlight. The opposite is true if you were sending an expedition to Antarctica. White skin can produce more vitamin D and is better in cold climates with less sunlight. This is not about "hating" anyone, but simply recognizing that each race has real differences that affect who is better suited for certain situations. That expedition would go better if you choose the people who are best suited for it.

This applies even if you remove humans entirely from the example. People only use spoons to eat soup with, and we only use forks to eat salads. We are discriminating against spoons and against forks! Is this wrong? No. Forks and spoons are different and thus are better in different situations. Regardless of feelings, these are facts of life.

Real racism would be when you discriminate without there being an actual difference. For example, suppose you say that a Black person can't be your friend because Black people are stupid. That's racist because it's not true. It's a lie the yehuborim created to perpetuate the slave trade. You would need to have actual facts saying that a race is less intelligent in some objective measurement before you could justly discriminate based on race.

But even then, it is more complicated than I have time to write about because in all things there is a distribution. Even if one race is less intelligent than another, there would be outliers - a few individuals who aren't. This makes generalizations less accurate. For example, there are albino Black people who have white skin yet are racially Black. They are outliers in my first example of the expedition to the Sahara. The problem of outliers makes racial discrimination rarely the best way of discriminating. The best way is to measure the facts of interest (skin color, intelligence, etc), then discriminate based on that rather than race. That is usually more accurate.
 
jrvan said:
Soaring Eagle 666 [JG said:
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Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Part of Zevism is working with nature and natural limitations, which includes realizing the inherent limitations people have on both an individual and population-wide level. However, while we respect natural differences, we also are meant to work together with the other races. So we could be defined as "racist", but not hateful.

The Gods created each race to reflect unique elemental properties. Whites are generally balanced, Asians exemplify air and water, while Blacks exemplify earth and fire. The subraces are generally mixes of these.

These unique racial properties allow each population to be specialized within certain activities. For example, Blacks appear naturally athletic (fire), whilst also having a very good sense of music and rhythm (earth). Yet, when this same soul becomes degenerated, we get people who are overly materialistic (bad earth) and willing to commit aggressive crimes (bad fire).

Another tenet of Zevism is that of reincarnation, where our soul can return after death so that we can continue to advance, or continue to degenerate in a worst-case scenario. This is where karma and our past actions come into play.

In regards to race and its relationship with karma, all souls reincarnate into the race and species of their origin. If you are a White person, you were never a wolf in a past life, and you were never an Asian person either. This is why it is critical that each person advances themselves through meditation, and why our birth conditions are not just about "luck", but about the current state of our soul and racial family.
Exactly. "Racism" means unjust discrimination, but it is often attributed to any kind of racial discrimination, which is ridiculous. Discrimination really only means to treat people differently. If this is based on real facts, then it is justified and actually good.

To give an example, suppose you were sending a science expedition to the Sahara desert, and you need to choose a team. If everyone has equal merit, should you choose White people or Black people? In this case Black people are a better choice because dark skin is objectively more resistant to bright sunlight. The opposite is true if you were sending an expedition to Antarctica. White skin can produce more vitamin D and is better in cold climates with less sunlight. This is not about "hating" anyone, but simply recognizing that each race has real differences that affect who is better suited for certain situations. That expedition would go better if you choose the people who are best suited for it.

This applies even if you remove humans entirely from the example. People only use spoons to eat soup with, and we only use forks to eat salads. We are discriminating against spoons and against forks! Is this wrong? No. Forks and spoons are different and thus are better in different situations. Regardless of feelings, these are facts of life.

Real racism would be when you discriminate without there being an actual difference. For example, suppose you say that a Black person can't be your friend because Black people are stupid. That's racist because it's not true. It's a lie the yehuborim created to perpetuate the slave trade. You would need to have actual facts saying that a race is less intelligent in some objective measurement before you could justly discriminate based on race.

But even then, it is more complicated than I have time to write about because in all things there is a distribution. Even if one race is less intelligent than another, there would be outliers - a few individuals who aren't. This makes generalizations less accurate. For example, there are albino Black people who have white skin yet are racially Black. They are outliers in my first example of the expedition to the Sahara. The problem of outliers makes racial discrimination rarely the best way of discriminating. The best way is to measure the facts of interest (skin color, intelligence, etc), then discriminate based on that rather than race. That is usually more accurate.

People also in general like to be around people who look like them, and this is the natural healthy form of racism (the other forms I refer to as "racial hatred" which get mistakenly and intentionally called racism). It's inbuilt biologically and spiritually, and 100% natural. It's actually extremely unhealthy and unnatural for people to suppress this instinct due to Yehuborim manufactured social pressure.

If the Black people weren't brought to America as slaves by the yehuborim in the first place then we wouldn't have this artificial situation where we have to share our land and our neighborhoods with a different race, and we wouldn't have to pretend that this isn't a country belonging to White people, founded by White people. Black people would still be living and developing along their own spiritual racial path in Africa. Of course White people get blamed for taking them away from their homeland too. Just like we get blamed for everything that the yehuborim do.

Racial hostility also naturally happens when one race feels on an instinctual level that another race is invading their territory and living space.
Yes, in the end these are just words attached to concepts that have been heavily corrupted. Whether you call it racism, racialism, racial hatred, etc. The meaning behind the words is what's important.

It's true that if yehuborim hadn't been in America, then Africans would still be developing normally in Africa, which would be much healthier than the multicultural mess here.

However, if yehuborim hadn't been in America, there would also be many more tribes of Indians, which the yehuborim murdered. America would probably have large regions inside it that are countries totally owned by Indians, developing in their own spiritual path. And that would actually work if there were no yehuborim here to give them tobacco, alcohol, and help them set up casinos on reservations where it's legal. :roll:
 
The Alchemist7 said:
Racism is bad and illogical because there is no justification for blindly hating a group of people only because they are of different race. `Racialism` however is different and that's what the Nazis were, racialists and not racists. Most people are brainwashed by the mainstream education and mass media to confuse the two terms and not make any difference. Most people outside have a very poor understanding on racial matters to the point where they even confuse `xenophobia` with `racism` wherever is the case. I've been hearing many examples of how `racist` Westerners are again people from Eastern Europe who move in their countries but they all of the same race. The only logical conclusion is that current education and mass media are responsble for this mass twisted perception because these were the only places where most people have taken their `historical views` from.
The “blind hate” is a fallacy. Every race has plenty reason to hate another race. It may not be the most logical thing to do but there is reason. No one hates someone else for “no reason” that’s a stupid thing to say.
 
I can understand the hesitation and skepticism and with knowing the fact that figure of the past and the Nazis are very unpopular in the world so going against that programming can be difficult, but once the reading and scoured material are provided (as noted above) it should be fairly easy to understand but may take time to fully process the matter.
Give it some time, it can be a hard ask for some.
 
WW2 regime was the way to go for Germans in 1933. It is not the way to go for Americans in 2022. WW2 regime only works for very hard working and trusting people. America is not right for this. Your job is a perfect example of WW2 regime. For example, at your work, does everyone work hard and do their job? Yes? Then good. No? Then what are you working for? America resembles the latter. When this happens, people do less. A youtuber made a video about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uGeI8EX7l8
 
HauptSturm said:
WW2 regime was the way to go for Germans in 1933. It is not the way to go for Americans in 2022. WW2 regime only works for very hard working and trusting people. America is not right for this. Your job is a perfect example of WW2 regime. For example, at your work, does everyone work hard and do their job? Yes? Then good. No? Then what are you working for? America resembles the latter. When this happens, people do less. A youtuber made a video about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uGeI8EX7l8
Come to think of it, I think you are right on that, America is far from the same as Germany then.
That guy was right about the minimum wage and welfare.
 
Pumpkin671 said:
HauptSturm said:
WW2 regime was the way to go for Germans in 1933. It is not the way to go for Americans in 2022. WW2 regime only works for very hard working and trusting people. America is not right for this. Your job is a perfect example of WW2 regime. For example, at your work, does everyone work hard and do their job? Yes? Then good. No? Then what are you working for? America resembles the latter. When this happens, people do less. A youtuber made a video about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uGeI8EX7l8
Come to think of it, I think you are right on that, America is far from the same as Germany then.
That guy was right about the minimum wage and welfare.
It's probably up to the states to do something. Or if Trump gets in office again. People are pissed about this rigged election and are going to the states to change things I think. Trump or Biden, the better of the two was overwhelmingly Trump. Covid-19 was planned long before Trump in my opinion. I don't know of a solution for the USA. It's pretty much keep to your race while being around other races.
 
HauptSturm said:
Pumpkin671 said:
HauptSturm said:
WW2 regime was the way to go for Germans in 1933. It is not the way to go for Americans in 2022. WW2 regime only works for very hard working and trusting people. America is not right for this. Your job is a perfect example of WW2 regime. For example, at your work, does everyone work hard and do their job? Yes? Then good. No? Then what are you working for? America resembles the latter. When this happens, people do less. A youtuber made a video about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uGeI8EX7l8
Come to think of it, I think you are right on that, America is far from the same as Germany then.
That guy was right about the minimum wage and welfare.
It's probably up to the states to do something. Or if Trump gets in office again. People are pissed about this rigged election and are going to the states to change things I think. Trump or Biden, the better of the two was overwhelmingly Trump. Covid-19 was planned long before Trump in my opinion. I don't know of a solution for the USA. It's pretty much keep to your race while being around other races.
The U.S.A is difficult in terms of how it could be worked and run, The answer may be in that States and local governments will have a bigger hand in it. I definitely do agree with you on the quote and post from HailVictory88 on how different races work ethic.
 
Memorie_BE said:
I really hope I don't get flamed posting this (if I'm even allowed to post this) as I am genuinely curious and want to hear the perspectives of y'all.

So I've seen a lot of Nazi visuals and symbolism in this server and I just wanted to know why exactly. I am completely aware that one of the enemies here are the yehuborim, trust me, I know and understand that the Nazis also had that enemy. What I'm confused about, however, is that wouldn't advocating the actions of the Nazis be technically hypocritical when looking in a historical lens?

Here me out: If I have my facts correct, I believe that the yehuborim are the enemy in the first place due to the torture and discrimination that is directed at Zevists today and even worse centuries back. yehuborim would torture and kill innocent people who disagreed with their beliefs (again, if I have my facts correct) and are therefor the enemy. So then why do we advocate what the Nazis did to people who just happened to share the same beliefs as the ones that tortured and killed people? Some people who were gassed by Nazis didn't even believe in what their ancestors believed, but were still punished. These are the same actions that the historical yehuborim did, so wouldn't that be hypocritical in a sense?

As someone who is obsessed with philosophy, I understand that every side has the innocent and the guilty, this is also supported by the fact that I knew a Yehuborim person in high school that was just the sweetest thing and even loved death metal (a great mix). I think it's fair to label these people more as misguided and should never be punished as it's not their fault for being born in a family with those beliefs.

Again, I'm not trying to side with the yehuborim or trying to mediate, I'm just curios about the deeper philosophy of this, that's all.
There have already been several answers, but I want to give you more than one view of things so I decided to write this.

First, no, the yehuborim were not gassed, there is plenty of evidence that the concentration camps were later altered, National Socialist Germany did not have enough crematoria for so many bodies, and the myth of the 6 million began to be spread long before the WWII itself, not to mention the obviously altered photos, the nonsensical testimonies and other things.

As for yehuborim, they are an alien species, they look like us, and sometimes act like us, but on a spiritual level they are quite different, they were genetically engineered by their racial parents who they call Elohim, many yehuborim admit. In part, there are books written by yehuborim such as: Legacy: A Genetic History of the Yehuborim People in which the Yehubor admits that they are a race, not a religion.

About the actions against the yehuborim in Germany being considered hypocritical, in addition to the WW2 not having occurred, the German yehuborim at the time were communists, communism was created by the Yehubor Karl Marx and the yehuborim who went to Germany at that time were mostly communist militants who had come from the Soviet Union, so yes, they were to blame because they were the ones who were implanting communism in Germany.

Another very important thing about this is that, one way or another, keeping yehuborim around is suicide, the Yehuborim soul has an energy contrary to ours, and it itself was structured to be a weapon against yehuborim, moreover. , they constantly curse us by constantly reading their torahs and keeping the annual cycle of Yehuborim energy, if you had a Yehuborim friend, know he is not like you, i have had Yehuborim friends and i can say with certainty that no matter how nice or human they seem, in the end they are what they are, a biological weapon created to enslave humanity.
 
HailVictory88 said:
If people wish to reduce "racial hatred", for once they should try and reduce the hatred non-Whites have for Whites. Whites are already far too non-hateful. While it's not universal, there is an immense amount of hatred for Whites. If Whites knew what our enemies have planned for us, it would curdle the blood. It is troubling how even many of the Whites here seem unaware of how bad the anti-White agenda. WE MUST PRIORITIZE OUR OWN SURVIVAL.

Yeah, this shit is getting out of control.
 

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