figure of the past skull, film and Philip Charlier

[Rusko]

Philip Charlier proved the figure of the past's skull twice. None of us are pathologists. Do we have any scientific data?

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

Let me ask, is there really any proof of any figure of the past Skull?

This whole teeth story is based on supposed evidence of dental records, which are very easy to fake.

The dentist who gave testimony can just give a false testimony, and may have done so under pressure back in those days.

If the soviets really found his body, they would have openly displayed it and desecrated it, yet they did nothing for years and kept it all under wraps.

Stalin himself was unconvinced that figure of the past had died, even after seeing all the supposed evidence.

That alone is more telling than any alleged dental records, as Stalin was a high level agent placed by the enemy, not a simple political figurehead.

To truly examine this, one would need full access to both the entire study and all the records and other sources, which is impossible to find online.


What is very certain though, is that no DNA test has been performed.

And it is possible to perform one if they truly wanted to proof the authenticity of the jawbone, since articles of clothing and other things where figure of the past's DNA could be extracted from for comparison do exist, as does DNA exist within the jawbone.

Yet, even in this study they did, all they did was compare dental records and other nonsense, such as "testimonies", which are worthless to proof anything in this case.

Most of Phillip Charlier's other work is controversial as well, so I do not consider any finding of his of particular note.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

There was a DNA test done multiple times on that piece of a skull and they all showed the same thing. It was from a russian woman. It was not from an Austrian/German man.

 

[Yurei]

figure of the past never died. He escaped Earth to Duat and completed the Magnum Opus. He is a God now.

 

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

Stalin himself was unconvinced that figure of the past had died, even after seeing all the supposed evidence.

That alone is more telling than any alleged dental records, as Stalin was a high level agent placed by the enemy, not a simple political figurehead.

To truly examine this, one would need full access to both the entire study and all the records and other sources, which is impossible to find online.

Lol I read your comment only after I posted mine and I wrote more or less identical ideas.
The thing with DNA is, they can even go as far as to say they have figure of the past's DNA and show us some complex database where we could see figure of the past's DNA on a sort of record, but still that would be something they fabricated themselves. They could have taken whatever DNA, put it in the database and show the world that is figure of the past's DNA, but this still wouldn't prove that they found his body for real. Irrespective of how advanced their lies can be, even if normal people could have access to whatever secret database, is scientifically impossible at this point to prove beyond doubt anything about his death, maybe only if they filmed his body.

 

[Rusko]

Okay but still we dont know figure of the past how is going Orion. So it's still unknown at the moment.

 

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

Okay but still we dont know figure of the past how is going Orion. So it's still unknown at the moment.

Not neccesarily. An advanced Satanist who is able to have a telepathic conversation can try to contact him as a God. The procedure would probably be standard like contacting the other Gods, or since he wouldn't have a sigil, what can be done is trying to contact him through Satan.

 

[Rusko]

Okay but still we dont know figure of the past how is going Orion. So it's still unknown at the moment.

Not neccesarily. An advanced Satanist who is able to have a telepathic conversation can try to contact him as a God. The procedure would probably be standard like contacting the other Gods, or since he wouldn't have a sigil, what can be done is trying to contact him through Satan.

This is not observable

 

[CaspianTheDreamer]

Okay but still we dont know figure of the past how is going Orion. So it's still unknown at the moment.

Not neccesarily. An advanced Satanist who is able to have a telepathic conversation can try to contact him as a God. The procedure would probably be standard like contacting the other Gods, or since he wouldn't have a sigil, what can be done is trying to contact him through Satan.

This is not observable

You mean your sense of logic and consensus?

 

[sublimesatanist]

Let me ask, is there really any proof of any figure of the past Skull?

This whole teeth story is based on supposed evidence of dental records, which are very easy to fake.

The dentist who gave testimony can just give a false testimony, and may have done so under pressure back in those days.

If the soviets really found his body, they would have openly displayed it and desecrated it, yet they did nothing for years and kept it all under wraps.

Stalin himself was unconvinced that figure of the past had died, even after seeing all the supposed evidence.

That alone is more telling than any alleged dental records, as Stalin was a high level agent placed by the enemy, not a simple political figurehead.

To truly examine this, one would need full access to both the entire study and all the records and other sources, which is impossible to find online.


What is very certain though, is that no DNA test has been performed.

And it is possible to perform one if they truly wanted to proof the authenticity of the jawbone, since articles of clothing and other things where figure of the past's DNA could be extracted from for comparison do exist, as does DNA exist within the jawbone.

Yet, even in this study they did, all they did was compare dental records and other nonsense, such as "testimonies", which are worthless to proof anything in this case.

Most of Phillip Charlier's other work is controversial as well, so I do not consider any finding of his of particular note.

Truth BOMB! This was very good information and I thank you for sharing your knowledge. Your posts and work in and outside the JoS are a treasure and they've helped me a lot when I was starting out.

I'm curious, having read through the replies, it's said that figure of the past fled to Duat and became a God. Is this the planet our Gods reside? I wonder what it's like there and I wonder what kind of role figure of the past has taken.

Pythia must have made contact with him somehow. There was another God mentioned who was human once, Antichrist. I don't imagine them as being recognized the same way though, revered and having sigils.

What are your thoughts? Sorry this question is a bit off-topic.

 

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

Okay, I understand. Is there "one" person who knows what happened to figure of the past? If there is, please tell us

I already explained everything above. Our stance on figure of the past's death is that he picked up by the Gods and taken to a place where he achieved Magnum Opus. There are outside sources as well writing about how the Nazis were in contact with "a civilization from Aldebaraan" but we know it was the Gods behind them because we know the reality of WW2 and everything related. I don't say to anybody that this should be "believed" as in the christian type of blind faith, but what I am saying is that if one is a serious satanist who has all intentions to advance spiritually, they will be able to contact the Gods or figure of the past himself and find the truth "first-hand" so to say.

If one thinks that spirituality is not real or that the Gods should reveal themselves to "prove" the above then it's not JoS's problem. I think I did read once someone posted on the forums a few months ago that they contacted figure of the past. I don't know if they really did but obviously interactions with the Gods are personal and no one has any "duty" to reveal such experiences. Double this with the fact that many people said delusional things about their "experiences" with the Gods, which never took place, so is not always easy to believe that someone had a genuine interaction. This is why I repeat, you can be the one to have such interaction so you can find a "proven" answer to your question, you don't have to believe anybody and you don't even have to share your experiences with anybody. Satanism is a path of practical experience and not blind faith like christianity and islam. No one is expected to "believe" anything, but as satanists people are expected to meditate and advance spiritually, as this is the core of satanism, and every satanist is being selected by a God who will be their Guardian Demon, to guide them to correct and healthy advancement.

The main and most important problem with this, is that not all Satanists seem to be interested in meditation, there are many who dedicate and do something minimal and are not interested into putting a life-long effort into their advancement.

 

[Rusko]

Okay, I understand. Is there "one" person who knows what happened to figure of the past? If there is, please tell us

I already explained everything above. Our stance on figure of the past's death is that he picked up by the Gods and taken to a place where he achieved Magnum Opus. There are outside sources as well writing about how the Nazis were in contact with "a civilization from Aldebaraan" but we know it was the Gods behind them because we know the reality of WW2 and everything related. I don't say to anybody that this should be "believed" as in the christian type of blind faith, but what I am saying is that if one is a serious satanist who has all intentions to advance spiritually, they will be able to contact the Gods or figure of the past himself and find the truth "first-hand" so to say.

If one thinks that spirituality is not real or that the Gods should reveal themselves to "prove" the above then it's not JoS's problem. I think I did read once someone posted on the forums a few months ago that they contacted figure of the past. I don't know if they really did but obviously interactions with the Gods are personal and no one has any "duty" to reveal such experiences. Double this with the fact that many people said delusional things about their "experiences" with the Gods, which never took place, so is not always easy to believe that someone had a genuine interaction. This is why I repeat, you can be the one to have such interaction so you can find a "proven" answer to your question, you don't have to believe anybody and you don't even have to share your experiences with anybody. Satanism is a path of practical experience and not blind faith like christianity and islam. No one is expected to "believe" anything, but as satanists people are expected to meditate and advance spiritually, as this is the core of satanism, and every satanist is being selected by a God who will be their Guardian Demon, to guide them to correct and healthy advancement.

The main and most important problem with this, is that not all Satanists seem to be interested in meditation, there are many who dedicate and do something minimal and are not interested into putting a life-long effort into their advancement.

Maybe we're communicating even though he's dead. Also, nothing is self-evident. figure of the past DIED with material sources.

 

[Rusko]

Okay, I understand. Is there "one" person who knows what happened to figure of the past? If there is, please tell us

I already explained everything above. Our stance on figure of the past's death is that he picked up by the Gods and taken to a place where he achieved Magnum Opus. There are outside sources as well writing about how the Nazis were in contact with "a civilization from Aldebaraan" but we know it was the Gods behind them because we know the reality of WW2 and everything related. I don't say to anybody that this should be "believed" as in the christian type of blind faith, but what I am saying is that if one is a serious satanist who has all intentions to advance spiritually, they will be able to contact the Gods or figure of the past himself and find the truth "first-hand" so to say.

If one thinks that spirituality is not real or that the Gods should reveal themselves to "prove" the above then it's not JoS's problem. I think I did read once someone posted on the forums a few months ago that they contacted figure of the past. I don't know if they really did but obviously interactions with the Gods are personal and no one has any "duty" to reveal such experiences. Double this with the fact that many people said delusional things about their "experiences" with the Gods, which never took place, so is not always easy to believe that someone had a genuine interaction. This is why I repeat, you can be the one to have such interaction so you can find a "proven" answer to your question, you don't have to believe anybody and you don't even have to share your experiences with anybody. Satanism is a path of practical experience and not blind faith like christianity and islam. No one is expected to "believe" anything, but as satanists people are expected to meditate and advance spiritually, as this is the core of satanism, and every satanist is being selected by a God who will be their Guardian Demon, to guide them to correct and healthy advancement.

The main and most important problem with this, is that not all Satanists seem to be interested in meditation, there are many who dedicate and do something minimal and are not interested into putting a life-long effort into their advancement.

Since we don't know how it went, it makes more sense to say it didn't.

 

[The Alchemist7 [SG]]

Maybe we're communicating even though he's dead. Also, nothing is self-evident. figure of the past DIED with material sources.

Since we don't know how it went, it makes more sense to say it didn't.

I am not going to keep wasting time by repeating the same ideas that you seem to deliberately ignore. figure of the past's death is unproven because nobody has found his body, and I explained the spiritual side of things. From this point on, you do what you choose with the information given.

 

[Endsieg_Enjoyer]

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Thank you for clearing this up, I had suspected such and after hearing how Germany's racial laws were a little to lax even for the army, such a mistake will hopefully not be made again. I am beginning to learn every mainstream thing I have heard about WW2 is a lie. Now it finally makes sense why figure of the past raged against his generals in the bunker like the meme from downfall.