--- In , Light Algur <yc28@... wrote:
Scold? What are we supposed to do? Treat every one like 3 year olds?
If you have a very weak ego then of course you would get offended.
The front of this group's description has the website link.
Hail Satan!
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From: nicknesredna <nicknesredna@...
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Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: FATHER SATAN I NEED UR HELP
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I did read your post. But if the guy joined the e-Groups without reading the JoS (which I believe happens way to often), then he would have absolutely no idea of any of what you are saying. He may even be used to this xian mentality like you say, which is why I refered him to the JoS website.
I guess my point is that here is no need for scolding him like that if he does not know he has done something wrong. Instead teach him.
All that aside, I think your previous post was really good. It was much more elaborate than your first one and I understood what you were trying to say. It actually helped me to.
Hail Satan
--- In mailto:, "Zevios Metathronos" <Zevios Metathronos@ wrote:
Generally, if people fell on their knees as beggars in front of Satan, asking for a favor or for him to save their asses, humiliating themselves, this is a total turn off. I am certain Satan will turn his back and not help these people, as to show them that this is not xianity. In Satanism humiliating yourself is forbidden. Looking down on yourself is forbidden and should be avoided.
Well, I will relate my own experience with this.
I remember when I was new, I would go to Satan and tell him, please Father Satan help me with this. Most if not all times, I received help. Slowly this became a habit and I was becoming a brat. Satan then cleared out to me in his own way, that its not like this, quite blantantly. You don't need to fall on the floor like a beggar. You insult Satan that way. Or asking for mercy etc. Like a little parasite.
This is out of question here. When you go to Satan, look in his eyes and say the Truth. Satan helps you build up to where you're a God. Should he just pet your back and kiss you in the cheek, treat you like the little queens some people think they are? Obviously not.
Also Satan highly values being honest with him. One time, I was really pissed at him, but I did not tell him, in "fear" of sorts. Nevertheless, after a point, I was like, you know Father, I am really mad at this thing happening. To my surprize, Satan was really happy and guided me to solve the problem. Hiding behind fingers is not advised either. He appriciates honesty rathen than trying to semi-hide things or whatever.
Satan has mentioned to me that he feels insulted when his followers are not having pride in themselves. What kind of God would want petty followers? Only the enemy who searches for retards. Satan takes pride in his followers and looks up to them. He has so much pride, that he wants his followers to have pride. Satan has too much pride. He wouldn't even let people get on the floor like beggars and ask for shit. They would never deserve his time, he many times cleared to me that he feels disgusted by that sort behavior.
Its an insult to Satan to not have pride in yourself, because you're his follower. Satan does not want petty followers. These belong to the enemy, kissing the enemy's ass for wishes that never come. Satan shows you you're a freaking God and wants to make you as one.
HAIL SATAN!!!!!!
--- In mailto:, "snatchsoft200" <snatchsoft200@ wrote:
I concur.
Christianity and the like allows a crack addict to come into its fold, remain a crack addict and then when they hit the skids again, they can beg and plead for another chance instead of learning from their mistakes and trying to pick themselves up and fix their mess. The church is a crutch for people who don't want to walk on their own... Satan will show you how to walk on your own and let you set your own house in order.
--- In mailto:, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
"3. People discover Satanism in all walks of life and everyone has their own battles. Who knows what this person has been / are going through?"
That's even worse if he comes to Satanism for a quick fix. In fact that's the worst thing you can do, because he's obviously gonna get disappointed. I explained the reason in my previous post, and not only that but actually those instafix people will be the first to betray our side if the enemy makes them a better offer. It has happened many times, and no those people who come here just because they are in dire need are NOT sincere. They are NOT interested in their souls, spiritual development or anytning else.
That's why I usually advise people who come to Zevism because of need to back out for a while and come back if they have no problems at all. I save them the unnecessary disappointment which I see all the time in these sorts of people. IMO one should never join Zevism because their life sucks and they want an instafix. That's not the reason nor is it pitiable or should be coddled for that. One doesn't really join the Special Forces and beg and grovel to them. Satanism is the Spiritual Special forces. It is for the strong and responsible, quite the opposite of the OP.
--- In mailto:, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
I don't really think you read my post at all:
If you grovel in a christian way you make yourself a worthless worm obviously. It certainly doesn't show any value of your part, it only shows you're weak and worthless. It doesn't inspire Satan to give you anything. My point was if you present yourself as needy and desperate, you're in Satan's eyes a worthless worm. You don't show any skill or ability.
In fact many xians pray to their false god as if they're vile worthless sinners and deserve death and beg for forgiveness. This sort of addressing is of the enemy and makes you look inferior. It's completely unnecessary to know what he's up to, because he's writing a christian post and addressing it to Satan.
Whatever his english knowledge is, you can get from his post that he's groveling anyway. And reading the JoS is really inexcusable because it's infront of the group.
--- In mailto:, "nicknesredna" <nicknesredna@ wrote:
As inspiring as many long-term members and warriors may find your post, there are a few factors I think should be taken into consideration:
1. The person may not be proficient in the English language, hence the bad formulation which can be misunderstood.
2. If the person has not read the Joy of Satan website he has no way of knowing "what it is all about": telepathic communications, power meditation and so forth.
3. People discover Satanism in all walks of life and everyone has their own battles. Who knows what this person has been / are going through?
As I previously stated, I do not know if the person is for real or not but I do not think it is necessary nor appropriate to use terms such as "a weak and worthless worm" if you do not know the aforementioned.
--- In mailto:, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
It's not that he just posted in public, it's that his message is SOO wrong. Imagine going to a president of a company and telling him "Dear president plzz help me my life sucks like shit right now and you're the only one that I can turn to e.t.c. e.t.c." He'll slam the door in your face if you do that for obvious reasons. If you show him that you're a weak and worthless worm, that's not what kind of people he wants in his company. The entire point is to show you're valuable and you have a great value, you'll be a great asset in his company and you can hold by yourself. Satan wants strong warriors, not worthless scum. Furthermore the OP is ignorant of the fact that astral communication is no physical and only happens when you're advanced in power meditation and has fine tuned astral senses.
--- In mailto:, "nicknesredna" <nicknesredna@ wrote:
You can talk to Satan telepathically. It is a personal thing and there is no reason to post this on an internet forum with thousands of members. I don't know if you are sincere, but if you are I suggest you read the Joy of Satan website:
www.templeofzeus.org
--- In mailto:, "victor.maere" <victor.maere@ wrote:
DEAR MY LORD SATAN
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR U FOR A LONG TIME....CAN WE TALK IN PHYSICAL? CAUSE YOU GOD,FATHER,MOTHER,,YOUR MY EVERY THING BUT AM HAVIN SO MANY TROUBLE NO ONE HELP ME PLEASE I WANT YOU FACE TO FACE......I HOPE U CAN HELP ME I PROMISE I LL DO ANY THING...
