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Experience or my imagination?

Kristjan Ojamets

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Alright , let me explain what happened.

So i have been slacking on my meditation for days because of the lack of peace and quiet and work being a pain.
So today my parents decided to go away from the house for a few days , so at about midnight , i decided to try and do Void meditation and going into a trance , they didn't work , but seemed like when i had my eyes half open while trying to go into a trance , its like things got extremly dark after focusing for a bit , but then lost the focus and everything went back to normal.

Anyway i was unsattisfied with it , i was not about to quit and call it a day for today because of that. I went to search around and i found a small blue color candle we had stashed and decided to light it and test my luck.
So i lit it and started to talk to Father , hoping i can maybe get something. So i talked and talked about my concernes , asking for forgiveness for the lack of meditation duty (Even tho i have been reading alot of joS and the e-group for info etc. every single day ) and then i decided to pray and meditate at the same time to Father.

The first thing that happened when i closed my eyes was , i saw like the candle flame itself , only upside down. It was very clear , i wasn't sure if it was my imagination or not , but it was extremly clear how i saw it. So i kept on meditating and i notice the flame(In my mind ofc.)got smaller and smaller and eventually it started to emit a black color around it for a bit , it went smaller and more black the more the candle started to run out.
So after the candle was close to being extinguished , i decided to talk to father one last time. Expresing my feelings towards all the research i have done on JoS and here and asked for a sign aswell if i am progressing at all and if father is noticing me. When i expressed my anger towards the Jews , Xians etc. the flame got a bit brighter all of a sudden ( it was at the finishing point ) for a small bit. Was that a sign or was it just the Wax that gives the flame a small boost in the end?

And last thing. Once i blew it out to be on the safe side at the end and put the candle holder away , the upside down flame i saw when my eyes were closed were right infront of my eyes , clear as day. It felt like i could grab it and it was like that for about a minute until it slowly faded away.

What do you think people , was it a sign , was it a proof of progress or was it maybe my imagination hoping for a sign?
 
Trusting in your own intiuition is key Kristjan.

I would say if it seemed like a message, then it was. We were not there, we can only tell of our experiences with our own communications.

AVE SATAN

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Kristjan Ojamets" <manraynor@... wrote:

Alright , let me explain what happened.

So i have been slacking on my meditation for days because of the lack of peace and quiet and work being a pain.
So today my parents decided to go away from the house for a few days , so at about midnight , i decided to try and do Void meditation and going into a trance , they didn't work , but seemed like when i had my eyes half open while trying to go into a trance , its like things got extremly dark after focusing for a bit , but then lost the focus and everything went back to normal.

Anyway i was unsattisfied with it , i was not about to quit and call it a day for today because of that. I went to search around and i found a small blue color candle we had stashed and decided to light it and test my luck.
So i lit it and started to talk to Father , hoping i can maybe get something. So i talked and talked about my concernes , asking for forgiveness for the lack of meditation duty (Even tho i have been reading alot of joS and the e-group for info etc. every single day ) and then i decided to pray and meditate at the same time to Father.

The first thing that happened when i closed my eyes was , i saw like the candle flame itself , only upside down. It was very clear , i wasn't sure if it was my imagination or not , but it was extremly clear how i saw it. So i kept on meditating and i notice the flame(In my mind ofc.)got smaller and smaller and eventually it started to emit a black color around it for a bit , it went smaller and more black the more the candle started to run out.
So after the candle was close to being extinguished , i decided to talk to father one last time. Expresing my feelings towards all the research i have done on JoS and here and asked for a sign aswell if i am progressing at all and if father is noticing me. When i expressed my anger towards the Jews , Xians etc. the flame got a bit brighter all of a sudden ( it was at the finishing point ) for a small bit. Was that a sign or was it just the Wax that gives the flame a small boost in the end?

And last thing. Once i blew it out to be on the safe side at the end and put the candle holder away , the upside down flame i saw when my eyes were closed were right infront of my eyes , clear as day. It felt like i could grab it and it was like that for about a minute until it slowly faded away.

What do you think people , was it a sign , was it a proof of progress or was it maybe my imagination hoping for a sign?
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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