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Donating to ToZ (my thoughts)

AvatarSymmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN2 min to read

I was thinking about something I wanted to share publicly in a visible way. Sorry to bother you :)

Those of you who spend time helping other members are also burning bad karma and building good karma. You are taking time out of your day so selflessly help random strangers advance themselves. Even just a small reply or dropping a link to the correct page on the JoS is helping that person. You are not obligated to help them, yet chose to do this; this is very honorable.

Do you know that today while responding to the usual topic about suicide I realized the value of your words? I realized that helping people here is not just a good deed. When you support some of us who are struggling with something you are helping to strengthen the members who make up this place and therefore this place itself.

So since this place is your initial and final goal and also the life in between that connects the two, because the Temple supports us and we want to be in the Temple, then by supporting this place you are supporting yourself. So to help someone here is to help yourself.

The goal of an anonymous user on AskSatan is somehow your goal. And that makes sense of the fact that you were explaining that avoiding donating to the Temple of Zeus affects your Karma by damaging it, because it's the same thing that happens when you don't take care of yourself, you let yourself wither away and self-harm.

This damages you on a spiritual level since the physical body and astral body are connected. That's why for my talk earlier, not taking care of the Temple with donations is harmful to yourself. Basically, money is our investment, and if you don't invest in yourself, you will be programmed to back down. It is not "Christian charity," but a law of nature.

PS I sincerely hate to abbreviate such a beautiful and so proud Name as "Temple of Zeus" in ToZ, but I understand that for some reasons it is sometimes okay to use the abbreviation...

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SeguaceDiSatanassaid:post: 1127138

I was thinking about something I wanted to share publicly in a visible way. Sorry to bother you :)

Do you know that today while responding to the usual topic about suicide I realized the value of your words? I realized that helping people here is not just a good deed. When you support some of us who are struggling with something you are helping to strengthen the members who make up this place and therefore this place itself.

So since this place is your initial and final goal and also the life in between that connects the two, because the Temple supports us and we want to be in the Temple, then by supporting this place you are supporting yourself. So to help someone here is to help yourself.

It's always good, and very interesting to hear your views, but donating, as so many here do, it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with your personal opinion!!

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Valkyriesaid:post: 1127161

It's always good, and very interesting to hear your views, but donating, as so many here do, it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with your personal opinion!!

Actually, are you bi-polar? You are exhibiting a lot of the symptoms? Very long posts, fixating, with over explanation of things. It's alright, we will understand 😊

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Valkyriesaid:post: 1127168

Actually, are you bi-polar?

No really hahaha, fortunately I am fine

Valkyriesaid:post: 1127168

Very long posts

I have too many things in my head, I don't do superficial thinking XD

Valkyriesaid:post: 1127168

fixating

I love to fixate on the right things given all the unnecessary stuff that exists that you can generally focus on.

Valkyriesaid:post: 1127168

with over explanation of things

I have always preferred not to leave anything to chance. There are people who post threads where they would need in-depth explanations about things and that a simple "you do this because in general ___ and I think that ____" is too superficial to really change things in the life of someone who only knows how to cry and be afraid of the worst things by asking for shelter at the Temple of Zeus even if only to shelter from the storm.

Valkyriesaid:post: 1127168

It's alright, we will understand

Don't worry lol fortunately I'm really fine in that respect, but you honestly made me laugh with this bipolar story hahahaah. Thanks for the smile. :)

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Besides being generous or not It's also a question of having money or not.
Now, for the more serious question here..

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Lol sorry anyways I would donate millions if I could. Money workings and affirmations should therefore be essential for any Zevist.

“Travel light, live light, spread the light, be the light.” - Yogi Bhajan

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SeguaceDiSatanassaid:post: 1127202

No really hahaha, fortunately I am fine

I have too many things in my head, I don't do superficial thinking XD

I love to fixate on the right things given all the unnecessary stuff that exists that you can generally focus on.

Sorry, glad you're laughing about it. I didn't wish to upset you😢
You're a valued member here, and I like you, as I think so many others here do too.

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Lol sorry anyways I would donate millions if I could. Money workings and affirmations should therefore be essential for any Zevist.

It is not a question about donating millions or donating billions. If our salary was 10 billion a month and everyone was sane, obviously a billion at least would go to the Temple. But the Temple of Zeus is not only sustained on billions or not, it is sustained on what their members do for the Temple. Conceptually, it is good for the Temple if everyone donates what amount of money they can.

Perhaps people think that if there was one billionaire donor and everyone else could avoid donating, that would be even more positive for the Temple in terms of gain and for the members who can continue not to invest in it. But this would actually destroy the Temple and its members. Because everything is formed on a cooperative concept between entities that has always been the basis of building the most beautiful and positive things for everyone.

How many men would build a pyramid? One or more than one? How many worshipped Horus? One or more than one? How many to build ancient Greece? One or more than one? And so on and so forth. And that is why it always disgusted me to see the old trolls explain how Hp. Zevios Metathronos was a "money-grubber." Hp Zevios Metathronos has ALWAYS shown that he did not want extra donations when that extra hurt the livelihood of the members themselves and their families.

This is not only because HP Zevios Metathronos did not want to endanger others. True, he did not want to endanger them by donating over the limit. But going deeper we see why this is even more important than we think: supporting the Temple should not be a detriment to ourselves, but a way to benefit ourselves.

You can work 100 hours straight without ever resting a second to build the best statue of Zeus. And after you've completed it, fatigue makes you keel over and die, perhaps undernourished or simply having a heart attack. This will not allow you to worship the statue you have built. And Zeus looking at you would be sorry that someone with a good heart who really loved Him enough to build a statue in His honor would now not even be able to admire His masterpiece because it lies dead on the ground. So donate as much as you really can and this is the greatest donation you could ever make!

@Hp. Zevios Metathronos
I didn't want to try to make you say things you didn't mean. So if I misinterpreted what you meant please point it out to me. I don't think I said the wrong things, but since I'm talking about how I think you meant something, it's only fair to point out that I'm saying it so that you know whether or not to correct me. Thank you!

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Valkyriesaid:post: 1127320

Sorry, glad you're laughing about it. I didn't wish to upset you

Don't worry about it. This concept of always being afraid to say something because maybe the other person might get upset has never been effective. Say the things you want to say with good intentions toward this place, so say them. After a certain level, hearing someone say something that to others might be offensive no longer attacks what you see about yourself or how you think others therefore see you. So I was amused by this, don't worry. You were nice and in general everytime you show to us that you are a good, willing person. This tends to make you a very good Zevist and gives you every "right" to speak and express yourself. So don't hesitate: we are pleased!

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SeguaceDiSatanassaid:post: 1127346

Don't worry about it. This concept of always being afraid to say something because maybe the other person might get upset has never been effective. Say the things you want to say with good intentions toward this place, so say them. After a certain level, hearing someone say something that to others might be offensive no longer attacks what you see about yourself or how you think others therefore see you. So I was amused by this, don't worry. You were nice and in general everytime you show to us that you are a good, willing person. This tends to make you a very good Zevist and gives you every "right" to speak and express yourself. So don't hesitate: we are pleased!

😍

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SeguaceDiSatanassaid:post: 1127138

good deed

what makes a good deed a good dead?

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robot123said:post: 1127440

what makes a good deed a good dead?

Being a good thing in itself.
So if that leads to something positive.

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SeguaceDiSatanassaid:post: 1127344

It is not a question about donating millions or donating billions.

Never said it was either..

Then we have this aspect:
if you take a look at my profile here you will see a lot of projects I've made for ToZ.
However; with a top computer I would be able to work much much faster, and create projects for ToZ in Unreal Engine 5.5 instead of 4.27.
That would mean higher realism, higher quality overall and higher framerate - thus higher quality ToZ projects.
Now.. should I donate money to ToZ or save that money to buy a better computer?

Money workings is key.

“Travel light, live light, spread the light, be the light.” - Yogi Bhajan

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should I donate money to ToZ or save that money to buy a better computer?

Economic Management (I also have a degree in this lol).

You need to prioritize how to support the Temple.

The need to sleep is not as much of a priority as the need to dress. Both needs are necessary.

Donating to the Temple to build it has priority. Managing the Temple to improve it is a secondary priority. Promoting the spread of the Temple is a tertiary priority.

That's how I see it, and I hope I'm not too wrong, since this would be the first time I use the degree in Economic Management.

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SeguaceDiSatanassaid:post: 1127534

Economic Management (I also have a degree in this lol).

You need to prioritize how to support the Temple.

The need to sleep is not as much of a priority as the need to dress. Both needs are necessary.

Yes, and interestingly enough when I improve myself I also indirectly improve the donation effort. For example; faster typing speed plus slightly more knowledge than yesterday in comparison to yesterday's effort = ToZ has become more powerful even if I have not spent any other asset than time for myself and for serving others.

Time is money, and it is also considered a form of donation.

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Yes, and interestingly enough when I improve myself I also indirectly improve the donation effort. For example; faster typing speed plus slightly more knowledge than yesterday in comparison to yesterday's effort = ToZ has become more powerful even if I have not spent any other asset than time for myself and for serving others.

Time is money, and it is also considered a form of donation.

This is normal. The phrase that HP Zevios Metathronos often repeats which is that no one is ever left behind of our people refers to this. You stay in the Temple and therefore if the Temple advances you in the Temple also advance and you by advancing advance the Temple. You are embedded in a system that works through a virtuous circle. :)

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I donated too HP Zevios Metathronos. I sent you email with transaction number.\
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I read your donor sermon:\
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But what do I do? Keep sending you the transaction numbers?

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Valkyriesaid:post: 1127661

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I donated too HP Zevios Metathronos. I sent you email with transaction number.\
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I read your donor sermon:\
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But what do I do? Keep sending you the transaction numbers?\

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That's the right link:\

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Valkyriesaid:post: 1127661

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I donated too HP Zevios Metathronos. I sent you email with transaction number.\
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I read your donor sermon:\
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But what do I do? Keep sending you the transaction numbers?\

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I think this is to you, Commander\
@Hp. Zevios Metathronos

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Valkyriesaid:post: 1127661

But what do I do? Keep sending you the transaction numbers?

Actually I can answer you too however lol.
First of all, thank you from me and from all our members whether aware or not of your beautiful gesture for this courage of yours! Keep up the good work! Heroes and heroines deserve opportunities to show what they are really worth.
Follow this site and try to post a screenshot showing that you donated in the appropriate "donations" section.
The screenshot is proof of the donation. I usually send the transaction history page on my card open to the one made that day. Because I can buy crypto coin directly from my bank. So to tell you what you need to screenshot in general.
This is the site:
https://josdonors.org/

:)

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SeguaceDiSatanassaid:post: 1127534

Promoting the spread of the Temple is a tertiary priority.

That's how I see it, and I hope I'm not too wrong, since this would be the first time I use the degree in Economic Management.

You hope.. So there is a certain uncertainty here? :giggle:

Well, you have some points about balance and how the small droplets make the ocean etc. I know that.. think I have some points also, hehe.
Seemingly having convinced someone here to actually donate is impressive work though I must say, and especially after that same person questioned whether you are "bi-polar".

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“Travel light, live light, spread the light, be the light.” - Yogi Bhajan