Do not force the Realities of the Chakras

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

I write this brief reminder, in the context of advancement and opening the soul. People are on different levels, what is for sure, is if one applies himself devoted to advance and open his energetic bodies, and meditates, will find extraordinary realities of the being not even possible to be imagined. 

The normal human exists as a proof of their of sensorial being, their whole revelation of existence is by knowing and experiencing their sensorial capacities. When one expands beyond these, when one is able to sense other realities that were only a belief up to that point, it is very easy to get stuck and lose themselves in this.

 This warning was missunderstood in the past times. It is not that you are not allowed to experience these, or that is not the way to Godhead. It is a warning of sanity and maturity. 

Awareness and the consciousness expanded is needed for these experiences. You can have a taste, but you cannot live in a reality you do not belong yet. 

Rationality and purpose must be used here.

Learn to enjoy everything when it comes from within naturally, as a consequence of the whole sum of your aim and advancement, do not force yourself there. Same with the forcing of the Serpent it is available to the chakras.

A little example, last days I was in meditation non-stop, having the sacral water open and feeling it, I felt very comfortable to meditate on it for days on end and further pursue this sensorial feeling. I decided to force these feelings and meditate over 20 hours in the span of 2 days only on the sacral water.

Exploring our chakras is awesome, but it can be dangerous if you do not know what are you doing and apply your consciousness wrong, and especially if the chakras are not on the same level of energies and expansion. I expanded so much, my material body was a blissful experience. I could not move because just feeling my body as it is with this energy, was so comfortable, it would not make sense do to anything else.  

But this unbound the disk of the base chakra with the nervous system, making me dissociate with the body. I could not return to my body. This experience was extremely frightening to say at least, because of the energetic conflict and imbalance, I was leaving the body by the 7th chakra. This is extremely dangerous, as by the 7th chakra if you leave your body completely from the base up, you cannot return. This is different that projecting or being pushed by the Serpent.

I know it is extraordinary to feel things. The lower part creates bliss of the material being, while the upper part creates bliss of consciousness. Do not go overboard in these, without having all of the chakras expanded to sustainment levels. 

This is like suddenly receiving a button to propel you to fly, but you must assure your vehicle is up to the task of flying.

Same with the other chakras, the solar chakra will make you feel the radioactive energy of the material, you will feel moving at immense speeds. It is up to you to not feel dizzy and ill because of the experience, or enjoy it. 

Proceed with reason, do not go overboard mindlessly. Sacral chakra can dissipate the being, but it also can make you a Godly being, the difference stands in your whole advancement. Have stability, good grounds. Learn and advance safe. To feel your material body as it is a continuous blissful vibration and energy does not make you advance by default or because it is. This is a part that will be used in the future and only a state of the being, only the experience is part of you.

Do not force sensorial realities, heightened states of being this way. It is a path to insanity. By design, the reality of our spiritual bodies are intense and plentiful, to force them untimely onto your body and consciousness is not normal and healthy, and not advancing.

 

[Fuchs]

I write this brief reminder, in the context of advancement and opening the soul. People are on different levels, what is for sure, is if one applies himself devoted to advance and open his energetic bodies, and meditates, will find extraordinary realities of the being not even possible to be imagined. 

The normal human exists as a proof of their of sensorial being, their whole revelation of existence is by knowing and experiencing their sensorial capacities. When one expands beyond these, when one is able to sense other realities that were only a belief up to that point, it is very easy to get stuck and lose themselves in this.

 This warning was missunderstood in the past times. It is not that you are not allowed to experience these, or that is not the way to Godhead. It is a warning of sanity and maturity. 

Awareness and the consciousness expanded is needed for these experiences. You can have a taste, but you cannot live in a reality you do not belong yet. 

Rationality and purpose must be used here.

Learn to enjoy everything when it comes from within naturally, as a consequence of the whole sum of your aim and advancement, do not force yourself there. Same with the forcing of the Serpent it is available to the chakras.

A little example, last days I was in meditation non-stop, having the sacral water open and feeling it, I felt very comfortable to meditate on it for days on end and further pursue this sensorial feeling. I decided to force these feelings and meditate over 20 hours in the span of 2 days only on the sacral water.

Exploring our chakras is awesome, but it can be dangerous if you do not know what are you doing and apply your consciousness wrong, and especially if the chakras are not on the same level of energies and expansion. I expanded so much, my material body was a blissful experience. I could not move because just feeling my body as it is with this energy, was so comfortable, it would not make sense do to anything else.  

But this unbound the disk of the base chakra with the nervous system, making me dissociate with the body. I could not return to my body. This experience was extremely frightening to say at least, because of the energetic conflict and imbalance, I was leaving the body by the 7th chakra. This is extremely dangerous, as by the 7th chakra if you leave your body completely from the base up, you cannot return. This is different that projecting or being pushed by the Serpent.

I know it is extraordinary to feel things. The lower part creates bliss of the material being, while the upper part creates bliss of consciousness. Do not go overboard in these, without having all of the chakras expanded to sustainment levels. 

This is like suddenly receiving a button to propel you to fly, but you must assure your vehicle is up to the task of flying.

Same with the other chakras, the solar chakra will make you feel the radioactive energy of the material, you will feel moving at immense speeds. It is up to you to not feel dizzy and ill because of the experience, or enjoy it. 

Proceed with reason, do not go overboard mindlessly. Sacral chakra can dissipate the being, but it also can make you a Godly being, the difference stands in your whole advancement. Have stability, good grounds. Learn and advance safe. To feel your material body as it is a continuous blissful vibration and energy does not make you advance by default or because it is. This is a part that will be used in the future and only a state of the being, only the experience is part of you.

Do not force sensorial realities, heightened states of being this way. It is a path to insanity. By design, the reality of our spiritual bodies are intense and plentiful, to force them untimely onto your body and consciousness is not normal and healthy, and not advancing.

Using the #6 Kenaz rune prior or after kundalini joga to add a little extra force would you say this is fine (while lying down)?

Maybe also with a affirmation.

 

[shekeb]

Awesome post naked Pluto.
What you write is very true . I went through condition something like that too a little bit different.

When I was doing the opening the chakras, posted by Egon , I did that very intensively some days later I got very sick that I had to stop that even stop doing Rituals and meditation just doing easy meditation daily I recovered very late from being sick to normal .
Some things happened after that and I stopped doing opening meditations because I couldn't vibrate because of privacy. I am under control of my family ( they are always keeping an eye to me )and I don't have privacy to do that again . Hope to the day that I do my meditations and Rituals without disaster .

By the way , great post again .

 

[स त न म]

Thank you, very nicely written.

You can have a taste, but you cannot live in a reality you do not belong yet. 

As someone currently working to open and activate the chakras, I understand what you mean by this. I should say I at least understand it in terms of my level of perception. Not just in terms of chakras, but this can be said about the whole advancement journey.

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

Using the #6 Kenaz rune prior or after kundalini joga to add a little extra force would you say this is fine (while lying down)?

Maybe also with a affirmation.

#6. Rune of light. The light of the soul; also intellect. The traveler on the road to the underworld carried Kaun to illuminate and guide. The shape of this rune is of a delta for smooth flight and also penetrating. Magically this rune can be used for intellect, penetrating things as it carries energy. It also increases awareness and gives insight. In black magick, it is used to incite stupidity and works so that the victim will remain unaware. This rune also represents sores, inflammations, swelling and boils. Used for the control and harnessing of sexual energies and in working sex magick, often used with other fire runes and used to release the spirit into the realms of power. This rune can be used to direct and influence the emotions of others. Bestows charisma which is connected to the sexual energies. Useful in raising the kundalini. Fire agate and fire opal can be used with this rune, especially when working sex magick.

The intellect is a part of the mind, in everyday life the intellect is the thought and the growth of the rational part of the mind, masculine. From the compulsory, reactive thought Kenaz can penetrate it, in the sense that the curtain of limited intellectual part by the accumulation of information is opened to the inspiration of the awareness. This means it gives orientation, direction to the thoughts and also from the description to the emotions.

This insight is also returned in the same way, in thoughts and emotions. Because also it affects and is an energy of both parts, masculine and feminine, it relates directly to the sexual energy.

So the correct use of the rune with the aim of Kundalini Yoga is breaking psychological limits, emotional bonds in a purifying way by the fiery nature. This also necessitates affirmations and a well-known purpose, not just raising it. This rune is also hard to understand and use simply because it has sharp attributes, not dull. Thus cannot be used in stimulating directly the Serpent or the chakras, as it is not generative, creative but sharp and incisive.
I have used incorrectly this rune in the past to stimulate directly the Serpent.

In this topic, you can use it with affirmations like "I am fully aware of my mind and emotions. Negative obstacles within my thoughts and emotions are now leaving permanently my being, in a positive way for me. My mind and emotions are under my control and are free from any negative influences"

Like a little working if you like, but for an overal boost of energy before or after Kundalini yoga, I would advise against it simply because kundalini yoga by default is extremely stimulating to the mind and emotions, and to add another velocity onto that with such a rune is too much, and with no purpose.

Yoga, meditation, etc have nothing to do with the intellect or the emotion directly, but with other parts of the mind and body that are dormant. These if not now, at one point will jump out and scare every human who does meditate, as the stimulation will bear fruits at one point.

It is best to do everything safe and with solid grounds. Do not add anything over a Kundalini yoga session other than cleaning and simple energy raising, especially not runes that stimulate the mind and emotion.

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

Awesome post naked Pluto.
What you write is very true . I went through condition something like that too a little bit different.

When I was doing the opening the chakras, posted by Egon , I did that very intensively some days later I got very sick that I had to stop that even stop doing Rituals and meditation just doing easy meditation daily I recovered very late from being sick to normal .
Some things happened after that and I stopped doing opening meditations because I couldn't vibrate because of privacy. I am under control of my family ( they are always keeping an eye to me )and I don't have privacy to do that again . Hope to the day that I do my meditations and Rituals without disaster .

By the way , great post again .

If you do not have privacy, rely heavily onto meditation, everything from the foundation, spinning and trance work up to breathing exercises. Do not worry, you can advance without problems this way, and when you have time you vibrate.

It is totally normal to get a little bit sick after some meditations (first times), because simply our immune system was given a boost of energy in which it will upgrade itself and do better for the body. I got sick as well when I opened my chakras, don't worry about it, take care of yourself and all is alright.

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

Thank you, very nicely written.

You can have a taste, but you cannot live in a reality you do not belong yet. 

As someone currently working to open and activate the chakras, I understand what you mean by this. I should say I at least understand it in terms of my level of perception. Not just in terms of chakras, but this can be said about the whole advancement journey.

Thank you, yes this is also available in everything we do. There are things that feel extremely tempting and seem luring enough to be made excessive, in turn having no real gain out of it.

 

[Sundara]

I write this brief reminder, in the context of advancement and opening the soul. People are on different levels, what is for sure, is if one applies himself devoted to advance and open his energetic bodies, and meditates, will find extraordinary realities of the being not even possible to be imagined. 

The normal human exists as a proof of their of sensorial being, their whole revelation of existence is by knowing and experiencing their sensorial capacities. When one expands beyond these, when one is able to sense other realities that were only a belief up to that point, it is very easy to get stuck and lose themselves in this.

 This warning was missunderstood in the past times. It is not that you are not allowed to experience these, or that is not the way to Godhead. It is a warning of sanity and maturity. 

Awareness and the consciousness expanded is needed for these experiences. You can have a taste, but you cannot live in a reality you do not belong yet. 

Rationality and purpose must be used here.

Learn to enjoy everything when it comes from within naturally, as a consequence of the whole sum of your aim and advancement, do not force yourself there. Same with the forcing of the Serpent it is available to the chakras.

A little example, last days I was in meditation non-stop, having the sacral water open and feeling it, I felt very comfortable to meditate on it for days on end and further pursue this sensorial feeling. I decided to force these feelings and meditate over 20 hours in the span of 2 days only on the sacral water.

Exploring our chakras is awesome, but it can be dangerous if you do not know what are you doing and apply your consciousness wrong, and especially if the chakras are not on the same level of energies and expansion. I expanded so much, my material body was a blissful experience. I could not move because just feeling my body as it is with this energy, was so comfortable, it would not make sense do to anything else.  

But this unbound the disk of the base chakra with the nervous system, making me dissociate with the body. I could not return to my body. This experience was extremely frightening to say at least, because of the energetic conflict and imbalance, I was leaving the body by the 7th chakra. This is extremely dangerous, as by the 7th chakra if you leave your body completely from the base up, you cannot return. This is different that projecting or being pushed by the Serpent.

I know it is extraordinary to feel things. The lower part creates bliss of the material being, while the upper part creates bliss of consciousness. Do not go overboard in these, without having all of the chakras expanded to sustainment levels. 

This is like suddenly receiving a button to propel you to fly, but you must assure your vehicle is up to the task of flying.

Same with the other chakras, the solar chakra will make you feel the radioactive energy of the material, you will feel moving at immense speeds. It is up to you to not feel dizzy and ill because of the experience, or enjoy it. 

Proceed with reason, do not go overboard mindlessly. Sacral chakra can dissipate the being, but it also can make you a Godly being, the difference stands in your whole advancement. Have stability, good grounds. Learn and advance safe. To feel your material body as it is a continuous blissful vibration and energy does not make you advance by default or because it is. This is a part that will be used in the future and only a state of the being, only the experience is part of you.

Do not force sensorial realities, heightened states of being this way. It is a path to insanity. By design, the reality of our spiritual bodies are intense and plentiful, to force them untimely onto your body and consciousness is not normal and healthy, and not advancing.

I unfortunately felt some need to do these things at certain points to be a Satanist against my own better personal judgement. That judgement is what I now decide to commit to. No one needs to have these crazy experiences to be a better person or to be a Satanist. It can cause a lot of unnecessary suffering. Especially during trying times. Clinging to Satan right now essentially stands for stability both mentally and physically, and I always find this outside of extra-sensory experiences. It’s important that people know these things and don’t push themselves outside of their own bounds. The saying “ if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” is a good thing to know for yourself.

 

[shekeb]

Awesome post naked Pluto.
What you write is very true . I went through condition something like that too a little bit different.

When I was doing the opening the chakras, posted by Egon , I did that very intensively some days later I got very sick that I had to stop that even stop doing Rituals and meditation just doing easy meditation daily I recovered very late from being sick to normal .
Some things happened after that and I stopped doing opening meditations because I couldn't vibrate because of privacy. I am under control of my family ( they are always keeping an eye to me )and I don't have privacy to do that again . Hope to the day that I do my meditations and Rituals without disaster .

By the way , great post again .

If you do not have privacy, rely heavily onto meditation, everything from the foundation, spinning and trance work up to breathing exercises. Do not worry, you can advance without problems this way, and when you have time you vibrate.

It is totally normal to get a little bit sick after some meditations (first times), because simply our immune system was given a boost of energy in which it will upgrade itself and do better for the body. I got sick as well when I opened my chakras, don't worry about it, take care of yourself and all is alright.

Thanks alot . I also wanted to do meditations without vibration and working on trance , anything without vibration , since I can't vibrate .
Good luck

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

Thanks for your well written reply and the working. Recently I did reread:

"Directing Energy
from
Azazel

To make full use of your abilities in magick, it is important to be familiar with energy; sensing it, how to absorb it, detect it, send it out and manipulate it. This comes with meditating, sensitizing yourself to it and working with it. With consistent practice, power meditation will naturally increase your bioelectricity. You will be able to feel this energy often, just by being aware of it. Awareness is the key to advancement in ability and power. This exercise works best after doing hatha yoga, mantra or any meditation that gives you an energy buzz.

1. Lie quietly and become aware of the energies on the left side of your body, then your right side.

2. Direct the energy from side to side and then bring it from both sides to meet in the middle of your torso. You do this by focusing your mind and concentrating on the middle of your torso, or anywhere else you want the energy to go. You should almost immediately feel energy in the middle of your torso. Wherever the mind is focused with intention, the energy will follow there.

3. From here, expand the energy past your body and into your aura and then contract the energy. Focus your attention to your aura [the energy field immediately outside of your body].

4. Continue to expand and contract the energy until both sides of your body feel balanced. Then feel the energies on the left and right sides together.

5. Feel energy from the front of your body, then the back, repeating the same steps as described above.

6. Do this again, this time from the waist up, then from the waist down. Same as above.

7. Now, feel the energy in your entire body as a whole. Practice expanding and contracting your aura several times.

8. The last time, bring the energy together in the center of your body and gently expand it out, expanding your aura, making sure it feels balanced and even.

9. Meditate on feeling the energy gently radiating and expanding your aura for a few minutes.

This is an excellent exercise for directing energy at will.

It is very important to always direct your energy upwards and out of your crown chakra. There will be times you will feel it drifting to your legs and feet. It should not remain there for any length of time as it can create problems because of a lack of circulation." https://templeofzeus.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Directing_Energy.html

I think this exercise can be savely done after kunda joga while lying down.

Yes this is very nice to do along with K. Yoga. You can also do the Raum Meditation afterwards or simply be aware of your own bodies energy. I usually circulate my energies along the spine and descend them in the front.

You can also do the full chakra meditation with the L, V, R, H (-aum) etc seeds, to empower and open the chakras, following a liberating Kundalini Yoga session followed by awareness and meditation while laying down. A lot of combinations, see what fits your composition.

These ways are the basis of your advancement in feeling the energy, opening and expanding the soul. The runes within this context are very specific and not a way to open, but of usefulness when already opened. I hope I make sense, the runes are an aspect of being an instrument of operation, a tool, a use of it but they are subordinate to the ability of the individual, they don't create the ability in itself. The ability must be grown and advanced to further obtain specifics with the runes, not the other way around.

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

I unfortunately felt some need to do these things at certain points to be a Satanist against my own better personal judgement. That judgement is what I now decide to commit to. No one needs to have these crazy experiences to be a better person or to be a Satanist. It can cause a lot of unnecessary suffering. Especially during trying times. Clinging to Satan right now essentially stands for stability both mentally and physically, and I always find this outside of extra-sensory experiences. It’s important that people know these things and don’t push themselves outside of their own bounds. The saying “ if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” is a good thing to know for yourself.

This is a phase of maturity, and a lesson of self understanding.

You do not enter an airplane and try to pilot it without having being taught how to, without the instruction manual and without a lot of hours of experience and especially without a co-pilot.

A part of the learning curve is to understand that your intellect and emotions as parts of the mind are just that, thought and emotion and they are limited, not only in sensorial discovery but in their impact on the inner self and outer world. In spiritual spectrum, these are the starting point, but not the end of which spirituality is accomplished, full filed or discovered.

Identifying with the thoughts, which are on levels of oscillation and extremely easy to be manipulated, you won't discover yourself, being it is a reflective part of the world, the world being also just a fragmentation of the whole spiritual nature of things.

The input of the intellect stems only as a reactive filling and organic response to the present experience of life. This is ultimately conditioned, programmed and bound to limits and specific paths of manifestation.

Take any normal human and have him think a thought extremely hard. You can fry your brain on that specific thought and nothing will happen. You can identify and concentrate yourself as much as you can, but nothing else happens. Same with the emotion, you can amplify it as much as you desire, but it won't have any other value. 

So when one advances and opens their limitations, by cleaning and opening of the soul, the mind and emotions are free to jump around and react as they please themselves. When the life within reaches more than it was used to, it opens parts of the mind which were dormant, subconscious and in turn the the bodies and even the material body activates parts of the reality. 

This is about awareness and expansion of the consciousness. When suddenly you discover you have an electric body, you explore it, grow it. Then you discover also that there are centers of bio electricity, in the same way you explore them, what is this. This is just a part, electromagnetic aspects.

In deep meditation you discover other realities of the same sources, such as the elements of the body, you explore them as well. Etc. This is part of discovering the own being, which is the most complex system of intellectual thought. The intellect discovers by reverse engineering, by seeing the outcome and trying to approach the source. In spiritual pursuits we discover the source and approach the ends of it, their fragmentation. 

Yoga means, reading somewhere, cleansing of the elements, which are the real source of everything. This part of by knowing yourself you understand everything else. 

However these things sound simple. But the reality is plentiful of substantial experiences. The intellect and emotion can only imagine, while in meditation more than brutal manifestation happens, and this can be only experienced to be known. 

 

[One Wire Phenomenon]

I write this brief reminder, in the context of advancement and opening the soul. People are on different levels, what is for sure, is if one applies himself devoted to advance and open his energetic bodies, and meditates, will find extraordinary realities of the being not even possible to be imagined. 

The normal human exists as a proof of their of sensorial being, their whole revelation of existence is by knowing and experiencing their sensorial capacities. When one expands beyond these, when one is able to sense other realities that were only a belief up to that point, it is very easy to get stuck and lose themselves in this.

 This warning was missunderstood in the past times. It is not that you are not allowed to experience these, or that is not the way to Godhead. It is a warning of sanity and maturity. 

Awareness and the consciousness expanded is needed for these experiences. You can have a taste, but you cannot live in a reality you do not belong yet. 

Rationality and purpose must be used here.

Learn to enjoy everything when it comes from within naturally, as a consequence of the whole sum of your aim and advancement, do not force yourself there. Same with the forcing of the Serpent it is available to the chakras.

A little example, last days I was in meditation non-stop, having the sacral water open and feeling it, I felt very comfortable to meditate on it for days on end and further pursue this sensorial feeling. I decided to force these feelings and meditate over 20 hours in the span of 2 days only on the sacral water.

Exploring our chakras is awesome, but it can be dangerous if you do not know what are you doing and apply your consciousness wrong, and especially if the chakras are not on the same level of energies and expansion. I expanded so much, my material body was a blissful experience. I could not move because just feeling my body as it is with this energy, was so comfortable, it would not make sense do to anything else.  

But this unbound the disk of the base chakra with the nervous system, making me dissociate with the body. I could not return to my body. This experience was extremely frightening to say at least, because of the energetic conflict and imbalance, I was leaving the body by the 7th chakra. This is extremely dangerous, as by the 7th chakra if you leave your body completely from the base up, you cannot return. This is different that projecting or being pushed by the Serpent.

I know it is extraordinary to feel things. The lower part creates bliss of the material being, while the upper part creates bliss of consciousness. Do not go overboard in these, without having all of the chakras expanded to sustainment levels. 

This is like suddenly receiving a button to propel you to fly, but you must assure your vehicle is up to the task of flying.

Same with the other chakras, the solar chakra will make you feel the radioactive energy of the material, you will feel moving at immense speeds. It is up to you to not feel dizzy and ill because of the experience, or enjoy it. 

Proceed with reason, do not go overboard mindlessly. Sacral chakra can dissipate the being, but it also can make you a Godly being, the difference stands in your whole advancement. Have stability, good grounds. Learn and advance safe. To feel your material body as it is a continuous blissful vibration and energy does not make you advance by default or because it is. This is a part that will be used in the future and only a state of the being, only the experience is part of you.

Do not force sensorial realities, heightened states of being this way. It is a path to insanity. By design, the reality of our spiritual bodies are intense and plentiful, to force them untimely onto your body and consciousness is not normal and healthy, and not advancing.

Here is another one if you want to read it.Like I said I don't know what happened to me and I need to know.
sorry if I am derailing your thread but it's more of less the same stuff I think
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=252310#p252310

 

[One Wire Phenomenon]

I write this brief reminder, in the context of advancement and opening the soul. People are on different levels, what is for sure, is if one applies himself devoted to advance and open his energetic bodies, and meditates, will find extraordinary realities of the being not even possible to be imagined. 

The normal human exists as a proof of their of sensorial being, their whole revelation of existence is by knowing and experiencing their sensorial capacities. When one expands beyond these, when one is able to sense other realities that were only a belief up to that point, it is very easy to get stuck and lose themselves in this.

 This warning was missunderstood in the past times. It is not that you are not allowed to experience these, or that is not the way to Godhead. It is a warning of sanity and maturity. 

Awareness and the consciousness expanded is needed for these experiences. You can have a taste, but you cannot live in a reality you do not belong yet. 

Rationality and purpose must be used here.

Learn to enjoy everything when it comes from within naturally, as a consequence of the whole sum of your aim and advancement, do not force yourself there. Same with the forcing of the Serpent it is available to the chakras.

A little example, last days I was in meditation non-stop, having the sacral water open and feeling it, I felt very comfortable to meditate on it for days on end and further pursue this sensorial feeling. I decided to force these feelings and meditate over 20 hours in the span of 2 days only on the sacral water.

Exploring our chakras is awesome, but it can be dangerous if you do not know what are you doing and apply your consciousness wrong, and especially if the chakras are not on the same level of energies and expansion. I expanded so much, my material body was a blissful experience. I could not move because just feeling my body as it is with this energy, was so comfortable, it would not make sense do to anything else.  

But this unbound the disk of the base chakra with the nervous system, making me dissociate with the body. I could not return to my body. This experience was extremely frightening to say at least, because of the energetic conflict and imbalance, I was leaving the body by the 7th chakra. This is extremely dangerous, as by the 7th chakra if you leave your body completely from the base up, you cannot return. This is different that projecting or being pushed by the Serpent.

I know it is extraordinary to feel things. The lower part creates bliss of the material being, while the upper part creates bliss of consciousness. Do not go overboard in these, without having all of the chakras expanded to sustainment levels. 

This is like suddenly receiving a button to propel you to fly, but you must assure your vehicle is up to the task of flying.

Same with the other chakras, the solar chakra will make you feel the radioactive energy of the material, you will feel moving at immense speeds. It is up to you to not feel dizzy and ill because of the experience, or enjoy it. 

Proceed with reason, do not go overboard mindlessly. Sacral chakra can dissipate the being, but it also can make you a Godly being, the difference stands in your whole advancement. Have stability, good grounds. Learn and advance safe. To feel your material body as it is a continuous blissful vibration and energy does not make you advance by default or because it is. This is a part that will be used in the future and only a state of the being, only the experience is part of you.

Do not force sensorial realities, heightened states of being this way. It is a path to insanity. By design, the reality of our spiritual bodies are intense and plentiful, to force them untimely onto your body and consciousness is not normal and healthy, and not advancing.

Here is one more i just left out all the details

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=230365#p230365

I never gradually advanced myself. I whent form a normal everyday human without any knowledge of these things to a super human over night I mean things I only expected to see in movies to the real deal. If I gradually worked towards this level I would be a lot like you now I believe but I'm not I can hardly control the simplest thoughts. And I feel lost sometimes.

I just want to add if this is a Astral projection it's a real time thing. The nature of it makes it impossible to be partly a dream or a self generated astral world type of a thing. I can only enter if I'm wide awake and completely focused with a lot of self confidence or happyness. It does not exist otherwise. If am there I can create what I want but it's not a creation of my own it's very VERY real.

Please don't ignore these posts like everyone else does.
If I was advanced I would help someone like myself I cannot imagine why most just ignore it. Is it because of the way write?

 

[Stormblood]

Thanks for your well written reply and the working. Recently I did reread:

"Directing Energy
from
Azazel

To make full use of your abilities in magick, it is important to be familiar with energy; sensing it, how to absorb it, detect it, send it out and manipulate it. This comes with meditating, sensitizing yourself to it and working with it. With consistent practice, power meditation will naturally increase your bioelectricity. You will be able to feel this energy often, just by being aware of it. Awareness is the key to advancement in ability and power. This exercise works best after doing hatha yoga, mantra or any meditation that gives you an energy buzz.

1. Lie quietly and become aware of the energies on the left side of your body, then your right side.

2. Direct the energy from side to side and then bring it from both sides to meet in the middle of your torso. You do this by focusing your mind and concentrating on the middle of your torso, or anywhere else you want the energy to go. You should almost immediately feel energy in the middle of your torso. Wherever the mind is focused with intention, the energy will follow there.

3. From here, expand the energy past your body and into your aura and then contract the energy. Focus your attention to your aura [the energy field immediately outside of your body].

4. Continue to expand and contract the energy until both sides of your body feel balanced. Then feel the energies on the left and right sides together.

5. Feel energy from the front of your body, then the back, repeating the same steps as described above.

6. Do this again, this time from the waist up, then from the waist down. Same as above.

7. Now, feel the energy in your entire body as a whole. Practice expanding and contracting your aura several times.

8. The last time, bring the energy together in the center of your body and gently expand it out, expanding your aura, making sure it feels balanced and even.

9. Meditate on feeling the energy gently radiating and expanding your aura for a few minutes.

This is an excellent exercise for directing energy at will.

It is very important to always direct your energy upwards and out of your crown chakra. There will be times you will feel it drifting to your legs and feet. It should not remain there for any length of time as it can create problems because of a lack of circulation." https://templeofzeus.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Directing_Energy.html

I think this exercise can be savely done after kunda joga while lying down.

Yes this is very nice to do along with K. Yoga. You can also do the Raum Meditation afterwards or simply be aware of your own bodies energy. I usually circulate my energies along the spine and descend them in the front.

You can also do the full chakra meditation with the L, V, R, H (-aum) etc seeds, to empower and open the chakras, following a liberating Kundalini Yoga session followed by awareness and meditation while laying down. A lot of combinations, see what fits your composition.

These ways are the basis of your advancement in feeling the energy, opening and expanding the soul. The runes within this context are very specific and not a way to open, but of usefulness when already opened. I hope I make sense, the runes are an aspect of being an instrument of operation, a tool, a use of it but they are subordinate to the ability of the individual, they don't create the ability in itself. The ability must be grown and advanced to further obtain specifics with the runes, not the other way around.

I would personally not add anything after kundalini practice. Instead, I think one should wait at least 30 minutes after the corpse pose part (which is the lying on your back for 10-15 minutes). This is because the energies from the spinal series have specific functions to perform. If you intervene, you are preventing it from performing what it has to do, drastically lessening the true effects of the practice.

Some of these functions are purification (the fire raised in each chakra and in the aura), refinement and kundalini "work" (for lack of a better term). People who are not really aware of what the energies are doing, should just take a step back and observe, feel, develop that sensitivity, instead of taking charge and messing things up.

This is not addressed to you (you're definitely aware of many things), but to everyone else who is reading and takes these things at heart.

 

[Stormblood]

I would personally not add anything after kundalini practice. Instead, I think one should wait at least 30 minutes after the corpse pose part (which is the lying on your back for 10-15 minutes). This is because the energies from the spinal series have specific functions to perform. If you intervene, you are preventing it from performing what it has to do, drastically lessening the true effects of the practice.

Some of these functions are purification (the fire raised in each chakra and in the aura), refinement and kundalini "work" (for lack of a better term). People who are not really aware of what the energies are doing, should just take a step back and observe, feel, develop that sensitivity, instead of taking charge and messing things up.

This is not addressed to you (you're definitely aware of many things), but to everyone else who is reading and takes these things at heart.

After the fire completely subsides, the energies have performed what is needed of them. Then, it's time do a cleaning meditation, possibly a very thorough one, and move on to whatever one wants/needs to do next.

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

I would personally not add anything after kundalini practice. Instead, I think one should wait at least 30 minutes after the corpse pose part (which is the lying on your back for 10-15 minutes). This is because the energies from the spinal series have specific functions to perform. If you intervene, you are preventing it from performing what it has to do, drastically lessening the true effects of the practice.

Some of these functions are purification (the fire raised in each chakra and in the aura), refinement and kundalini "work" (for lack of a better term). People who are not really aware of what the energies are doing, should just take a step back and observe, feel, develop that sensitivity, instead of taking charge and messing things up.

This is not addressed to you (you're definitely aware of many things), but to everyone else who is reading and takes these things at heart.

After the fire completely subsides, the energies have performed what is needed of them. Then, it's time do a cleaning meditation, possibly a very thorough one, and move on to whatever one wants/needs to do next.

I imagine this will be evident in time, as the most beneficial things for the energy and body are the simplest actions. Kundalini Yoga offers and stimulates monstrous energy, if not felt doesn't mean it is not intense, give it time. No need to overburden or overlap the spiritual branches. In time as the soul opens, the same simple action would bear effects multiplied in the thousands. However, experimentation is needed for everyone and the freedom of doing so, is an advancement in itself, safety is only concerned.

 

[Stormblood]

I would personally not add anything after kundalini practice. Instead, I think one should wait at least 30 minutes after the corpse pose part (which is the lying on your back for 10-15 minutes). This is because the energies from the spinal series have specific functions to perform. If you intervene, you are preventing it from performing what it has to do, drastically lessening the true effects of the practice.

Some of these functions are purification (the fire raised in each chakra and in the aura), refinement and kundalini "work" (for lack of a better term). People who are not really aware of what the energies are doing, should just take a step back and observe, feel, develop that sensitivity, instead of taking charge and messing things up.

This is not addressed to you (you're definitely aware of many things), but to everyone else who is reading and takes these things at heart.

After the fire completely subsides, the energies have performed what is needed of them. Then, it's time do a cleaning meditation, possibly a very thorough one, and move on to whatever one wants/needs to do next.

I imagine this will be evident in time, as the most beneficial things for the energy and body are the simplest actions. Kundalini Yoga offers and stimulates monstrous energy, if not felt doesn't mean it is not intense, give it time. No need to overburden or overlap the spiritual branches. In time as the soul opens, the same simple action would bear effects multiplied in the thousands. However, experimentation is needed for everyone and the freedom of doing so, is an advancement in itself, safety is only concerned.

The cleaning is to remove all the dross the purification process leaves behind. I am not sure what you are saying anyway about giving it time, I have experienced the kind of bliss you talk about and never thought of myself as advanced. Even the most minuscule stimulation such as chanting one rep of a mantra or moving energy directly or even simple stretching can cause bliss.

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

After the fire completely subsides, the energies have performed what is needed of them. Then, it's time do a cleaning meditation, possibly a very thorough one, and move on to whatever one wants/needs to do next.

I imagine this will be evident in time, as the most beneficial things for the energy and body are the simplest actions. Kundalini Yoga offers and stimulates monstrous energy, if not felt doesn't mean it is not intense, give it time. No need to overburden or overlap the spiritual branches. In time as the soul opens, the same simple action would bear effects multiplied in the thousands. However, experimentation is needed for everyone and the freedom of doing so, is an advancement in itself, safety is only concerned.

The cleaning is to remove all the dross the purification process leaves behind. I am not sure what you are saying anyway about giving it time, I have experienced the kind of bliss you talk about and never thought of myself as advanced. Even the most minuscule stimulation such as chanting one rep of a mantra or moving energy directly or even simple stretching can cause bliss.

I was referring to people who do not feel the effects of yoga or meditations, simply because they are not open enough, this necessitates time to manifest and be felt. For example, when I first did Breath of Fire, I felt the fire and temperature rising after a day. In time, this gap of action and effect diminished completely, now I do it and the effect is instant. So, if you do not feel it now or even later, it does not mean it is not working, rather you need to work up to that point. No need to add anything else, in other to have confirmation by the sensorial judgment, it will come. Simply adding to your comment.

About the bliss, this is subjective where communication of such is concerned, but I understand what are you referring to.

There are many types of "bliss", and are related to the parts of action and effect. The sacral chakra creates the bliss of the material body, where every cell, part of the flesh is extremely comfortable, full of a feeling of well-being and beauty. Extremely healthy and flowing. This is a very physical feeling, and nurturing effect of the coldness of the sacral chakra. You feel like in a womb, extremely protected and wealthy. I believe that the sacral chakra activates the release of a lot of endorphins, and acts on the opiate receptors in the brain, nullifying any tension and discomfort in the brain, creating pleasure and extreme relaxation.

Also, similarly, the solar chakra activates also the inactive serotonin chemicals in this effect on consciousness from the digestive tract, in intense meditation, however. These are just some observations, I think it is enough to explain the effects on the body. All of these effects are connected and structured upon the function of every chakra and the physical part.

Every chakra can induce a feeling of bliss related to its reality. The heart chakra for example stimulates the endocannabinoid system, by the front extension up upon the stern. This communicates with the brain and opens extreme creative imaginative powers in the brain. Extreme visual and audible experiences, which can be frightening as the control of these are very hard to establish. The Endocannabinoid system is also making the nervous system very relaxed, which is an effect of the paralyzing ice of the heart chakra when the energy descends.

 

[Power of Justice [SG]]

Thanks for your well written reply and the working. Recently I did reread:

"Directing Energy
from
Azazel

To make full use of your abilities in magick, it is important to be familiar with energy; sensing it, how to absorb it, detect it, send it out and manipulate it. This comes with meditating, sensitizing yourself to it and working with it. With consistent practice, power meditation will naturally increase your bioelectricity. You will be able to feel this energy often, just by being aware of it. Awareness is the key to advancement in ability and power. This exercise works best after doing hatha yoga, mantra or any meditation that gives you an energy buzz.

1. Lie quietly and become aware of the energies on the left side of your body, then your right side.

2. Direct the energy from side to side and then bring it from both sides to meet in the middle of your torso. You do this by focusing your mind and concentrating on the middle of your torso, or anywhere else you want the energy to go. You should almost immediately feel energy in the middle of your torso. Wherever the mind is focused with intention, the energy will follow there.

3. From here, expand the energy past your body and into your aura and then contract the energy. Focus your attention to your aura [the energy field immediately outside of your body].

4. Continue to expand and contract the energy until both sides of your body feel balanced. Then feel the energies on the left and right sides together.

5. Feel energy from the front of your body, then the back, repeating the same steps as described above.

6. Do this again, this time from the waist up, then from the waist down. Same as above.

7. Now, feel the energy in your entire body as a whole. Practice expanding and contracting your aura several times.

8. The last time, bring the energy together in the center of your body and gently expand it out, expanding your aura, making sure it feels balanced and even.

9. Meditate on feeling the energy gently radiating and expanding your aura for a few minutes.

This is an excellent exercise for directing energy at will.

It is very important to always direct your energy upwards and out of your crown chakra. There will be times you will feel it drifting to your legs and feet. It should not remain there for any length of time as it can create problems because of a lack of circulation." https://templeofzeus.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Directing_Energy.html

I think this exercise can be savely done after kunda joga while lying down.

Yes this is very nice to do along with K. Yoga. You can also do the Raum Meditation afterwards or simply be aware of your own bodies energy. I usually circulate my energies along the spine and descend them in the front.

You can also do the full chakra meditation with the L, V, R, H (-aum) etc seeds, to empower and open the chakras, following a liberating Kundalini Yoga session followed by awareness and meditation while laying down. A lot of combinations, see what fits your composition.

These ways are the basis of your advancement in feeling the energy, opening and expanding the soul. The runes within this context are very specific and not a way to open, but of usefulness when already opened. I hope I make sense, the runes are an aspect of being an instrument of operation, a tool, a use of it but they are subordinate to the ability of the individual, they don't create the ability in itself. The ability must be grown and advanced to further obtain specifics with the runes, not the other way around.

I would personally not add anything after kundalini practice. Instead, I think one should wait at least 30 minutes after the corpse pose part (which is the lying on your back for 10-15 minutes). This is because the energies from the spinal series have specific functions to perform. If you intervene, you are preventing it from performing what it has to do, drastically lessening the true effects of the practice.

Some of these functions are purification (the fire raised in each chakra and in the aura), refinement and kundalini "work" (for lack of a better term). People who are not really aware of what the energies are doing, should just take a step back and observe, feel, develop that sensitivity, instead of taking charge and messing things up.

This is not addressed to you (you're definitely aware of many things), but to everyone else who is reading and takes these things at heart.

Can you do it after hatha yoga instead?

 

[Stormblood]

Can you do it after hatha yoga instead?

I am not saying you can't. I am just saying it's better not to. If you can, you should wait a while and reap the full effects.