[/TD]--- On Thu, 9/1/11, Silent Godess <silentgodess@... wrote:
From: Silent Godess <silentgodess@...
Subject: Debt
To:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:
You are still thinking in xtian terms.There is no payment of debt where Satan is concerned.You save your own soul,not some spook in the sky.Please read /www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html
Hail Satan
Brian
--- On Thu, 9/1/11, Silent Godess <silentgodess@... wrote:
From: Silent Godess <silentgodess@...
Subject: Debt
To:
Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 12:51 AM
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In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@... wrote:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
--- In , "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@... wrote:
regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.
--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.
What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.
All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Baal Zebul if they do that.
--- In , "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:
regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.
--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:
Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!
Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.
There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.
What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.
All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Baal Zebul if they do that.
--- In , "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:
regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.
--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:
Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!
Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.
There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.
What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.
All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Baal Zebul if they do that.
--- In , "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:
regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.
--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:07 PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:
Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:
Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!
Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.
There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.
What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.
All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Baal Zebul if they do that.
--- In , "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:
regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.
--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:07 PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:
Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:
Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!
Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.
There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.
What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.
All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Baal Zebul if they do that.
--- In , "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:
regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.
--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:07 PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:
Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:
Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!
Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.
There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.
What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.
All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Baal Zebul if they do that.
--- In , "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:
regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.
--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:07 PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:
Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:
Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!
Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.
There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.
What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.
All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Baal Zebul if they do that.
--- In , "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:
regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.
--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:07 PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:
Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:
Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!
Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.
There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.
What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.
All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Baal Zebul if they do that.
--- In , "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:
regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.
--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:
In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?
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