Debt

[Silent Godess]

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[Brian Gibbons]

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Hail Satan
Brian

--- On Thu, 9/1/11, Silent Godess <silentgodess@... wrote:

From: Silent Godess <silentgodess@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Debt
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 12:51 AM

  In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

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[diznit26]

Wait...So she was referring to debts in a metaphorical way? I couldn't make sense out of the post because I can't understand how xians have all debts they owe to banks erased once they join xianity!!

In that case, well, if you are talking about thinks you did to offend Satan before joining Satanism, they don't matter as you leave your past behind and start a new life with Satan.

A Satanist isn't "sorry" nor does he beg and grovel, he instead learns from his mistakes and doesn't repeat them.

And like Brian said there's no entity in the sky where we "owe" something to it. Satanism is not about blind obediance or servitude nor do we depend on others to "save" us. Satan wants us to be free and independant and evolve our souls and help humanity evolve.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

You are still thinking in xtian terms.There is no payment of debt where Satan is concerned.You save your own soul,not some spook in the sky.Please read /www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html
Hail Satan
Brian

--- On Thu, 9/1/11, Silent Godess <silentgodess@... wrote:

From: Silent Godess <silentgodess@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Debt
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 12:51 AM
















 









In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[Allison P]

Yes, I also was a bit confused as to the wording of this post. If
you're in debt, you're in debt; Father isn't gonna be mad at you
because you stole money. That'd be stupid; this isn't jewhova we're
talking about here. If, however, you were speaking of metaphorical
debt, that also does not matter, like Brian said. Remember what the
dedication reads: "I renounce all past allegiances." I'm paraphrasing,
but you get the gist. What's in the past is in the past, and Father
isn't going to hold you accountable for what you did when you were
without. You aren't 'cursed' because of the debt; you just have to pay
it back, and that's that. No spiritual repercussions. Rest easy...Hail
Father Satan!

On 9/1/11, diznit26 <diznit26@... wrote:
Wait...So she was referring to debts in a metaphorical way? I couldn't make
sense out of the post because I can't understand how xians have all debts
they owe to banks erased once they join xianity!!

In that case, well, if you are talking about thinks you did to offend Satan
before joining Satanism, they don't matter as you leave your past behind and
start a new life with Satan.

A Satanist isn't "sorry" nor does he beg and grovel, he instead learns from
his mistakes and doesn't repeat them.

And like Brian said there's no entity in the sky where we "owe" something to
it. Satanism is not about blind obediance or servitude nor do we depend on
others to "save" us. Satan wants us to be free and independant and evolve
our souls and help humanity evolve.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
wrote:

You are still thinking in xtian terms.There is no payment of debt where
Satan is concerned.You save your own soul,not some spook in the sky.Please
read /www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html
Hail Satan
Brian

--- On Thu, 9/1/11, Silent Godess <silentgodess@... wrote:

From: Silent Godess <silentgodess@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Debt
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 12:51 AM
















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In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the
status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like
foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that
Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank
robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect
their life and spirituality?

 

[kvnfidler]

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@... wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[diznit26]

That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.

What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.

All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Beelzebub if they do that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@... wrote:

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[diznit26]

Just an example, when we do destruction rituals against the kikes we always have positive thoughs in our mind, as they instruct us to visualize the outcome and feel that the Gentile people are liberated and without kike influence. So it really has nothing to do with the working, but the thoughts. It's the THOUGHTS which attract energy. If someone did a destruction ritual but had guilt and bad thoughts about cursing a person then it could backfire to him. That's why we are always instructed to be sure when doing a destruction rituals and to rejoice in the enemy's destruction.

It is exactly the same why we visualize the ritual as something that happened for sure and not having doubts about it. If you are not sure about it then any magick working has chances to fail.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:

That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.

What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.

All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Beelzebub if they do that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[diznit26]

Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!

Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.

There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:

That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.

What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.

All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Beelzebub if they do that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!

Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.

There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:

That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.

What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.

All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Beelzebub if they do that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!

Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.

There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:

That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.

What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.

All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Beelzebub if they do that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

Emotions are sensory,not energy,due to ignorance this happen.This is why just by loving everything wont make u enter to an all lovers wonderland.Our thought/concentration affect energy.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:07 PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!

Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.

There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:

That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.

What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.

All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Beelzebub if they do that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

Emotions are sensory,not energy,due to ignorance this happen.This is why just by loving everything wont make u enter to an all lovers wonderland.Our thought/concentration affect energy.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:07 PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!

Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.

There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:

That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.

What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.

All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Beelzebub if they do that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

Emotions are sensory,not energy,due to ignorance this happen.This is why just by loving everything wont make u enter to an all lovers wonderland.Our thought/concentration affect energy.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:07 PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!

Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.

There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:

That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.

What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.

All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Beelzebub if they do that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

Emotions are sensory,not energy,due to ignorance this happen.This is why just by loving everything wont make u enter to an all lovers wonderland.Our thought/concentration affect energy.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:07 PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!

Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.

There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:

That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.

What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.

All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Beelzebub if they do that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

Emotions are sensory,not energy,due to ignorance this happen.This is why just by loving everything wont make u enter to an all lovers wonderland.Our thought/concentration affect energy.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:07 PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

Average people energy n concentration etc is next to non,it differs when it a case of those who advanced spiritually,tell me how many new ager LOA bring any real difference to them?They lack the true knowledge of how magick works,ie,a new age woman is robbed n violently killed,due to this,a thoughtform is born,but the woman havent a clue who did it,even if she knew,she never developed her concentration,is the energy is properly or even directed?As a result,the thoughtform haunt the place of death,but no real harm is done to the killer.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:45 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Note: When I talk about positive and negative thoughts, the point of reference is the self, not any external absolute morality. Positive thoughts are the optimistic ones that make you feel happy, feel powerful, confident, e.t.c. Negative thoughts are those which make you feel guilty, worthless, ashamed e.t.c. just exactly what RHP religious teachings are which lower your self-esteem!!

Examples of white magick workings which fail or have the opposite results because of negative thoughts are the typical RHP "healings" where they think they are worthless, worse than maggots and ashamed of being themselves and call upon their false "god" to heal them.

There's really no absolute good or bad action in itself. An action can be good for you but bad for your enemies, or bad for you but neutral for the enemies, or good for you but bad for the rest of humanity e.t.c. and also good and bad thoughts which can accompany any action.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:

That's BS and is based on the corrupted version of karma, you don't attract any energy by just doing things because these don't involve any energy.

What is true is what you think can manifest in reality, but it has nothign to do with emotions or absolute morality, but only yourself alone. For example if you go robbing banks but think positive thoughts then positive things will happen. If you think negative thoughts while you donate to charity then bad things will happen to you. The reason why it's easier to attract bad energy while doing bad things is because of the guilt and the negative thoughts people feel after doing them. If you erase these thoughts then there's no problem.

All these things are bad because they are illegal and can get you in jail, not because of some karma BS involving absolute morality. They are also bad if you do these against a Satanist because Satanists should not turn against eachother and are punished by Beelzebub if they do that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kvnfidler" <kvnfidler@ wrote:

regardless of who you are (satanist or not) a debt is a debt. I doubt you would be cursed for it though. I think the things people do attract that kind of energy to themselves. So for example if your going around robbing banks and hurting people your attracting that energy to you and it will in some way come to you.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

In Christianity it is that all debts are forgiven. What is the status of a new Satanist that has debts that can not be paid like foreclosures from 6 yrs ago, bankruptcies, credit card debt...is that Satanist bound and cursed if they can not pay the debts, like a bank robber or criminal they have technically stollen BUT how does that effect their life and spirituality?