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Interesting post from Reddit /r/Conspiracy on the virus:
Source, with 25+ hyperlinks in the text: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/f9ygr8/proving_why_covid19_is_the_worst_pandemic_since/
Proving why COVID-19 is the worst pandemic since the Spanish Flu.
"Hello again r/conspiracy, I’m back, and with a lot more ammunition.
Over the past few days, I have spent a lot of time researching and compiling the best information we have on COVID-19 all in one post. Here, I am going to definitively prove to the many doubters from last time why COVID-19 is the worst novel virus we have seen in a century. This is a long post, and I won’t be providing a tl;dr because you need to know all the facts. Additionally, I have taken out all of the speculation I had from last post, and am just going to stick to the facts.
Alright, let’s get into it.
First, I will debunk the most common argument that COVID-19 is essentially just the flu. It is FAR worse than the flu or any other recent novel outbreak, and here's why:
1) Coronavirus is roughly 20x deadlier than the flu according to current numbers with a roughly 2% mortality rate. I will say, I think it’s lower due to the overall lack of data, but isolated cases like the diamond princess are showing us it is pretty close. If hospitals get overrun, this number gets much much higher due to the lack of care for critically ill patients.
2) R-naught is how many people will get infected on average by one person. Coronavirus is extremely contagious with an r-naught of 4-6.7 according to this Los Alamos preprint (a very highly regarded research center). For reference, seasonal flu is about 1.3. This means that unchecked, the coronavirus is about 3x more contagious than the seasonal flu. There have been superspreaders that have done immense damage all by themselves. Here is a worrying comparison graph showing COVID19 in relation to other recent outbreaks like SARS, Ebola, and MERS.
3) It is not necessarily the mortality rate that we need to be worried about, but a combination of both mortality and infection rate. The Spanish flu was just a very severe flu (also about 2% mortality rate, sound familiar?), but it managed to kill at least 50 million because it infected so many people.
4) The vast majority of governments including the US have been quarantining people for 14 days, but there have been many cases confirmed to have longer incubation periods; some up to 27 days. Additionally, there is new evidence that people can get reinfected. Patients have been slipping through the cracks of quarantines all over the world, and we are finally starting to find out. 21 different countries confirmed a new case of coronavirus on Tuesday.
So how does it actually stack up against past viruses?
Ok, so I have more than proven that coronavirus is much more deadly and much more infectious than the seasonal flu, glad to get that out of the way. SARS, Ebola, and MERS were more deadly but WAY less infectious. But OP, there were other flus that killed a couple million, what about those? Well yes, but they were only a couple times deadlier than the regular flu (instead of 20x like COVID-19) and I can't find anything about mass quarantines or supply chain disruption. They were essentially just deadlier flu seasons.
A big factor in this is that COVID-19 carriers can be highly infectious without showing any symptoms. For obvious reasons, this and the insufficient 14-day quarantine standard makes containment damn near impossible. In fact, officials are saying it is beyond containment.
All COVID-19 confirmed statistics
keep in mind that these are only people that have been tested and confirmed. China doesn’t even count those who die in their homes and were never explicitly confirmed. And they especially don't waste tests on those with very mild symptoms. Take these as very conservative numbers.
China especially doesn’t have the facilities to test all those that are asymptomatic or not very ill, nor do they classify undiagnosed deaths/illnesses as COVID-19 illnesses.
Thailand, Iran, Indonesia, Turkey, the US, China, pick a country. Many are either hiding their numbers or have no clue what is going on. Many countries are not publishing their numbers, not being forthcoming with the facts. Is this getting old yet? The confirmed statistics are nowhere near the real statistics.
Look at what they do, not what they say.
China’s carbon emissions have massively dropped. The Hubei province hasn't been working, and people have been welded inside their homes. Do you want to know how these people feel? Listen to the sounds coming from Wuhan residential buildings at night. Admittedly, most of these people are probably just frustrated/bored, and succumbing to cabin fever, but it is unsettling enough to include. The good news, however, according to the traffic on a popular Chinese social media app (Weibo), is that China's draconian quarantine measures might actually be working. Additionally, China is slowly going back to work. The problem is, once China goes back to work the virus will inevitably experience a resurgence when people leave quarantine. Herein lies the problem; it's not going away, and the economy can't wait for it to pass. I look forward to a study showing if the virus can survive the heat, but there is no definitive evidence for this possibility at the moment.
I implore you to look not at what governments are saying, and instead what they are doing. There have never been quarantines of this scale in the history of the world. Do you think China would spend all this money on hospitals, incinerators, containment, and damage mitigation over the flu? For anyone that really wants to get into the nitty-gritty on the effects on the global market, u/Fwoggie2 has been creating incredibly detailed daily updates over on r/supplychain. Seriously, he demonstrates the economic effects better than I could.
Why is the WHO the way that they are?
Coronavirus meets all the criteria of a pandemic, yet the WHO has not declared it as such. Turns out, the WHO no longer uses these criteria. There are many theories as to why they have not announced a pandemic, but due to the nature/attempted honesty of this post, I will not go into them. The fact is, COVID-19 is categorically a pandemic, and many experts agree (one of many examples).
Conclusion
Anyone who still believes this is just a different flu and not the largest pandemic we've seen in a century is falling victim to normalcy bias. It's very common and happens to everyone in different ways. The fact is, the numbers are far worse than anything we've seen in the past, governments are panicking, and financial effects are finally showing. The NYSE is still falling, even today. The novel coronavirus is way more deadly, and way more infectious than anything we have seen in a long time. And since there isn't a world war taking the attention away from it like with the Spanish flu, we need to be worried about economic fallout.
What can the individual do about this?
Nothing, really. Don't go to mass gatherings if the virus is present in your area. Prep with food and sanitization, and masks. Wait for a vaccine or effective treatment. The classic stuff.
Don't panic. Business-as-usual is the key to mitigating this thing and creating the best outcome for all. Don't pull stocks, they always bounce back eventually; those who held on in 2008 eventually saw their profits come back. Same situation here. Don't overbuy food and participate in causing shortages.
The difference between now and pandemics of the past is the fact that the world is globalized. The economic fallout from this has far worse potential than we've ever seen or experienced in history. This is why the WHO is so vague and why the CDC "isn't testing". You can't confirm community level spread if you aren't testing for it."
Source, with 25+ hyperlinks in the text: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/f9ygr8/proving_why_covid19_is_the_worst_pandemic_since/
Proving why COVID-19 is the worst pandemic since the Spanish Flu.
"Hello again r/conspiracy, I’m back, and with a lot more ammunition.
Over the past few days, I have spent a lot of time researching and compiling the best information we have on COVID-19 all in one post. Here, I am going to definitively prove to the many doubters from last time why COVID-19 is the worst novel virus we have seen in a century. This is a long post, and I won’t be providing a tl;dr because you need to know all the facts. Additionally, I have taken out all of the speculation I had from last post, and am just going to stick to the facts.
Alright, let’s get into it.
First, I will debunk the most common argument that COVID-19 is essentially just the flu. It is FAR worse than the flu or any other recent novel outbreak, and here's why:
1) Coronavirus is roughly 20x deadlier than the flu according to current numbers with a roughly 2% mortality rate. I will say, I think it’s lower due to the overall lack of data, but isolated cases like the diamond princess are showing us it is pretty close. If hospitals get overrun, this number gets much much higher due to the lack of care for critically ill patients.
2) R-naught is how many people will get infected on average by one person. Coronavirus is extremely contagious with an r-naught of 4-6.7 according to this Los Alamos preprint (a very highly regarded research center). For reference, seasonal flu is about 1.3. This means that unchecked, the coronavirus is about 3x more contagious than the seasonal flu. There have been superspreaders that have done immense damage all by themselves. Here is a worrying comparison graph showing COVID19 in relation to other recent outbreaks like SARS, Ebola, and MERS.
3) It is not necessarily the mortality rate that we need to be worried about, but a combination of both mortality and infection rate. The Spanish flu was just a very severe flu (also about 2% mortality rate, sound familiar?), but it managed to kill at least 50 million because it infected so many people.
4) The vast majority of governments including the US have been quarantining people for 14 days, but there have been many cases confirmed to have longer incubation periods; some up to 27 days. Additionally, there is new evidence that people can get reinfected. Patients have been slipping through the cracks of quarantines all over the world, and we are finally starting to find out. 21 different countries confirmed a new case of coronavirus on Tuesday.
So how does it actually stack up against past viruses?
Ok, so I have more than proven that coronavirus is much more deadly and much more infectious than the seasonal flu, glad to get that out of the way. SARS, Ebola, and MERS were more deadly but WAY less infectious. But OP, there were other flus that killed a couple million, what about those? Well yes, but they were only a couple times deadlier than the regular flu (instead of 20x like COVID-19) and I can't find anything about mass quarantines or supply chain disruption. They were essentially just deadlier flu seasons.
A big factor in this is that COVID-19 carriers can be highly infectious without showing any symptoms. For obvious reasons, this and the insufficient 14-day quarantine standard makes containment damn near impossible. In fact, officials are saying it is beyond containment.
All COVID-19 confirmed statistics
keep in mind that these are only people that have been tested and confirmed. China doesn’t even count those who die in their homes and were never explicitly confirmed. And they especially don't waste tests on those with very mild symptoms. Take these as very conservative numbers.
China especially doesn’t have the facilities to test all those that are asymptomatic or not very ill, nor do they classify undiagnosed deaths/illnesses as COVID-19 illnesses.
Thailand, Iran, Indonesia, Turkey, the US, China, pick a country. Many are either hiding their numbers or have no clue what is going on. Many countries are not publishing their numbers, not being forthcoming with the facts. Is this getting old yet? The confirmed statistics are nowhere near the real statistics.
Look at what they do, not what they say.
China’s carbon emissions have massively dropped. The Hubei province hasn't been working, and people have been welded inside their homes. Do you want to know how these people feel? Listen to the sounds coming from Wuhan residential buildings at night. Admittedly, most of these people are probably just frustrated/bored, and succumbing to cabin fever, but it is unsettling enough to include. The good news, however, according to the traffic on a popular Chinese social media app (Weibo), is that China's draconian quarantine measures might actually be working. Additionally, China is slowly going back to work. The problem is, once China goes back to work the virus will inevitably experience a resurgence when people leave quarantine. Herein lies the problem; it's not going away, and the economy can't wait for it to pass. I look forward to a study showing if the virus can survive the heat, but there is no definitive evidence for this possibility at the moment.
I implore you to look not at what governments are saying, and instead what they are doing. There have never been quarantines of this scale in the history of the world. Do you think China would spend all this money on hospitals, incinerators, containment, and damage mitigation over the flu? For anyone that really wants to get into the nitty-gritty on the effects on the global market, u/Fwoggie2 has been creating incredibly detailed daily updates over on r/supplychain. Seriously, he demonstrates the economic effects better than I could.
Why is the WHO the way that they are?
Coronavirus meets all the criteria of a pandemic, yet the WHO has not declared it as such. Turns out, the WHO no longer uses these criteria. There are many theories as to why they have not announced a pandemic, but due to the nature/attempted honesty of this post, I will not go into them. The fact is, COVID-19 is categorically a pandemic, and many experts agree (one of many examples).
Conclusion
Anyone who still believes this is just a different flu and not the largest pandemic we've seen in a century is falling victim to normalcy bias. It's very common and happens to everyone in different ways. The fact is, the numbers are far worse than anything we've seen in the past, governments are panicking, and financial effects are finally showing. The NYSE is still falling, even today. The novel coronavirus is way more deadly, and way more infectious than anything we have seen in a long time. And since there isn't a world war taking the attention away from it like with the Spanish flu, we need to be worried about economic fallout.
What can the individual do about this?
Nothing, really. Don't go to mass gatherings if the virus is present in your area. Prep with food and sanitization, and masks. Wait for a vaccine or effective treatment. The classic stuff.
Don't panic. Business-as-usual is the key to mitigating this thing and creating the best outcome for all. Don't pull stocks, they always bounce back eventually; those who held on in 2008 eventually saw their profits come back. Same situation here. Don't overbuy food and participate in causing shortages.
The difference between now and pandemics of the past is the fact that the world is globalized. The economic fallout from this has far worse potential than we've ever seen or experienced in history. This is why the WHO is so vague and why the CDC "isn't testing". You can't confirm community level spread if you aren't testing for it."
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AgniSarp 666 [NG]
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Coronavirus: Japanese woman tests positive for second time:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/japanese-woman-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-for-second-time
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/japanese-woman-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-for-second-time
AgniSarp 666 [NG]
Moderator
I found this video on youtube which should go back to around January 24th.
The translated video had been published but then subsequently deleted from youtube.
This is the translation; what I found interesting is that it talks about a virus mutation.
I push it here for the correctness of the information.
I don't know if the source is reliable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=TQnMM-YNJw8&feature=emb_logo
Family and friends, I am Jin Wei. I am currently inside the Wuhan outbreak region, Han Hou area. I would like to describe the condition inside the Hubei province, as well as the outbreak situation in the entire China. Currently there are already 90,000 cases of pneumonia contraction. What is the rate of contraction? If one person contracted this disease and is not properly quarantined and treated, this individual will infect 14 people that came in contact with him. That is a significant multiplier. During the spring festival, in our culture, families like to get together, dine together. But this is unlike any other years. I hope that people can stay home, do not gather, and do not visit families. There is a spring festival every year. If everyone can stay safe, you can always get together later.
Now let me report the situation and the amount of medical supplies condition at our front line hospitals. At this moment, our condition is beyond the control of our supervisors, health department, other organizations, city officials, and state officials. Through the media we are asking for donation of supplies from the outside world. These are medical supplies, such as, protective eye goggles, disposable surgical face masks, disposable gloves, bio-hazard suits, and bio-hazard pants. These supplies are in great shortages. Our medical team who just got off their shift are deployed to the front line again. The reason that I am practically making this video at the front line is to alert you all and to raise your awareness. Let me emphasize once again, during the spring festival, do not go out! Stay home! Otherwise, why are we risking our lives? ! It is for my family, my love ones, and their health. I hope you can understand. I also understand that my family members do not access social media. So if you receive this information, please pick up the phones and call around, notify each other. This is something you must do! You must do your best to educate yourselves regarding this disease. This is a political assignment.
Now I would like to inform you with a very bad news. The corona-virus has mutated. It is now a second generation virus. When it was still in its first generation, we were still able to treat this… However, after the last mutation, it became deadly. That is because the pneumonia is no longer one patient infected one other person. In this generation, one patient will infect 14 others. The rate of infection are now increasing exponentially. So please remember, do not go out, do not visit people, do not gather in a group, do not have dinner party. Thank you everyone.
The translated video had been published but then subsequently deleted from youtube.
This is the translation; what I found interesting is that it talks about a virus mutation.
I push it here for the correctness of the information.
I don't know if the source is reliable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=TQnMM-YNJw8&feature=emb_logo
Family and friends, I am Jin Wei. I am currently inside the Wuhan outbreak region, Han Hou area. I would like to describe the condition inside the Hubei province, as well as the outbreak situation in the entire China. Currently there are already 90,000 cases of pneumonia contraction. What is the rate of contraction? If one person contracted this disease and is not properly quarantined and treated, this individual will infect 14 people that came in contact with him. That is a significant multiplier. During the spring festival, in our culture, families like to get together, dine together. But this is unlike any other years. I hope that people can stay home, do not gather, and do not visit families. There is a spring festival every year. If everyone can stay safe, you can always get together later.
Now let me report the situation and the amount of medical supplies condition at our front line hospitals. At this moment, our condition is beyond the control of our supervisors, health department, other organizations, city officials, and state officials. Through the media we are asking for donation of supplies from the outside world. These are medical supplies, such as, protective eye goggles, disposable surgical face masks, disposable gloves, bio-hazard suits, and bio-hazard pants. These supplies are in great shortages. Our medical team who just got off their shift are deployed to the front line again. The reason that I am practically making this video at the front line is to alert you all and to raise your awareness. Let me emphasize once again, during the spring festival, do not go out! Stay home! Otherwise, why are we risking our lives? ! It is for my family, my love ones, and their health. I hope you can understand. I also understand that my family members do not access social media. So if you receive this information, please pick up the phones and call around, notify each other. This is something you must do! You must do your best to educate yourselves regarding this disease. This is a political assignment.
Now I would like to inform you with a very bad news. The corona-virus has mutated. It is now a second generation virus. When it was still in its first generation, we were still able to treat this… However, after the last mutation, it became deadly. That is because the pneumonia is no longer one patient infected one other person. In this generation, one patient will infect 14 others. The rate of infection are now increasing exponentially. So please remember, do not go out, do not visit people, do not gather in a group, do not have dinner party. Thank you everyone.
Head Guardian Blitzkreig
Head of Community
अग्निसर्प࿗ said:
Very interesting, thanks.
AgniSarp 666 [NG]
Moderator
In 2015, a scientific research published in the international journal Nature Medicin and reported the results of an experiment that had led to the creation of a chimera-virus , not surprisingly a hybrid version between a coronavirus strain originally from the bat and one similar to what causes Sars in humans.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985
https://translate.google.com/transl...nato-laboratorio-teoria-precedente-wuhan.html
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985
https://translate.google.com/transl...nato-laboratorio-teoria-precedente-wuhan.html
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अग्निसर्प࿗ said:
That's something to be worried about.
So, we see everywhere infection rates increased. China reports 80k cases, South Korea is reporting 5k cases, how is it possible Vietnam reports 16 cases???
The amount of bullshit is evident, Vietnam quarantined more than 10.000 people in a second in half Febrary for "7" infections. I doubt they have "16" infections in view of their lifestyle at strict physical contact.
Also news on Vietnam seems silenced, I would keep en eye on those countries close to China.
Gerecht Ror said:
Thing is to find an infected case, someone who is sick, and doesn't tell themselves it's just the flu, just waits until shit goes really bad and goes to the hospital. Only then they become a verified case. And only after this and *IF* they want this reported, their number is added to the infected cases.
There is no way that a virus that spreads so easily hasn't really spread on many more people. But there are also people who are 100% unsymptomatic and one cannot even see they have the virus.
So small numbers reported doesn't mean that the virus isn't spreading. Indeed, since it has 2-3 weeks of incubation time, we will only truly know in about 2-3 weeks from now, or maybe 4 weeks, how many people are truly infected. Now we are early on the spreading phase.
After a point small countries will not report data as simply the whole country will just go bankrupt or experience collapse or a total halting, and most countries cannot afford to do this to themselves. Everyone saw what happened in China and many countries will take the route to silence most probably now.
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One of the best antiviral plants is garlic eat it raw uncooked and the fumes even cover the lungs from viruses (not sure how safe but it works against) etc. Might be a cheap solution, for people who can´t get a mask, and a nother + point people avoid you 
so less infection risk. Better smell then be ill or death.
ginger is also antiviral. But it can´t couver the lungs (no fumes)
"Garlic's potential to combat heart disease has received a lot of attention, but it should receive even more acclaim for its antimicrobial properties. Fresh, raw garlic has proven itself since ancient times as an effective killer of bacteria and viruses. Once again, we can thank allicin. Laboratory studies confirm that raw garlic has antibacterial and antiviral properties. Not only does it knock out many common cold and flu viruses but its effectiveness also spans a broad range of both gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria (two major classifications of bacteria), fungus, intestinal parasites, and yeast. Cooking garlic, however, destroys the allicin, so you'll need to use raw garlic to prevent or fight infections.
Antimicrobial Activity
Garlic's infection-fighting capability was confirmed in a study conducted by researchers at the University of Ottawa that was published in the April 2005 issue of Phytotherapy Research. Researchers tested 19 natural health products that contain garlic and five fresh garlic extracts for active compounds and antimicrobial activity.
They tested the effectiveness of these substances against three types of common bacteria: E. faecalis, which causes urinary tract infections; N. gonorrhoeae, which causes the sexually transmitted disease gonorrhea; and S. aureus, which is responsible for many types of infections that are common in hospitals. The products most successful at eradicating these bacteria were the ones with the highest allicin content.
Now garlic is being investigated to see whether it can help us battle microbes that are resistant to antibiotics. Can garlic go where current antibiotics cannot and knock out the resistant bacteria? Perhaps.
One simple but meaningful demonstration of garlic's antibacterial power can be found in a study conducted at the University of California, Irvine. Garlic juice was tested in the laboratory against a wide spectrum of potential pathogens, including several antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. It showed significant activity against the pathogens. Even more exciting was the fact that garlic juice still retained significant antimicrobial activity even in dilutions ranging up to 1:128 of the original juice.
Garlic and Your Gums
Garlic may even help your gums stay healthy. In a study published in the July 2005 issue of Archives of Oral Biology, researchers concluded that garlic extract inhibits disease-causing bacteria in the mouth and may be valuable in fighting periodontitis, a serious gum disease. (Untreated gingivitis often leads to periodontisis, a condition in which the ligaments and bones supporting the teeth become infected and inflamed, ultimately resulting in tooth loss.)
This is exciting news because oral health can impact the rest of your body. For instance, disease-causing bacteria in your mouth can get into the bloodstream via bleeding gums, travel to your heart valve, and damage it.
Is it possible that garlic can work alongside prescription medications to reduce side effects or to help the drugs work better? Results from several studies say yes.
In a Rutgers University study that used bacteria in lab dishes, garlic and two common antibiotics were pitted against certain antibiotic-resistant strains of S. aureus (a gram-positive bacteria) and E. coli (a gram-negative bacteria). Garlic was able to significantly increase the effectiveness of the two antibiotic medications in killing the bacteria.
Research done in Mexico City at a facility supported by the National Institutes of Health of Mexico also showed some interesting results. It extended previous research in rats that used aged garlic extract and various sulfur-containing compounds from garlic along with gentamicin, a powerful antibiotic that can cause kidney damage. When any of the garlic compounds was ingested along with gentamicin, kidney damage was diminished.
Next, researchers set about to determine whether garlic weakened the effectiveness of gentamicin. As it turns out, the exact opposite happened: Garlic actually enhanced the effect of gentamicin. These findings indicate that with the use of garlic, perhaps less gentamicin would be needed, and kidney damage could be minimized.
Judging by research conducted in lab dishes and animals, it appears that garlic is a strong defender against microbes, even against those that have developed a resistance to common antibiotics. It also appears that garlic enhances the effects of some traditional antibiotics. But does it stand up to the test in humans?
Battling the Bugs Within
Eating raw garlic may help combat the sickness-causing bugs that get loose inside our bodies. Garlic has been used internally as a folk remedy for years, but now the plant is being put to the test scientifically for such uses. So far, its grades are quite good as researchers pit it against a variety of bacteria.
For eons, herbalists loaded soups and other foods with garlic and placed garlic compresses on people's chests to provide relief from colds and chest congestion. Now the Mayo Clinic has stated, "preliminary reports suggest that garlic may reduce the severity of upper respiratory tract infection." The findings have not yet passed the scrutiny of numerous, large, well-designed human studies, so current results are classified as "unclear."
Can a garlic clove help stop your sniffles? A study published in the July/August 2001 issue of Advances in Therapy examined the stinking rose's ability to fight the common cold. The study involved 146 volunteers divided into two groups. One group took a garlic supplement for 12 weeks during the winter months, while the other group received a placebo. The group that received garlic had significantly fewer colds -- and the colds that they did get went away faster -- than the placebo group.
Garlic also may help rid the intestinal tract of Giardia lamblia, a parasite that commonly lives in stream water and causes giardiasis, an infection of the small intestine. Hikers and campers run the risk of this infection whenever they drink untreated stream or lake water.
Herbalists prescribe a solution of one or more crushed garlic cloves stirred into one-third of a cup of water taken three times a day to eradicate Giardia. If you're fighting giardiasis, be sure to consult your health-care provider, because it's a nasty infection, and ask if you can try garlic as part of your treatment.
Finally, in the January 2005 issue of Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, researchers reported the results of an investigation into whether fresh garlic extract would inhibit C. albicans, a cause of yeast infections. The extract was very effective in the first hour of exposure to C. albicans, but the effectiveness decreased during the 48-hour period it was measured. However, traditional antifungal medications also have the same declining effectiveness as time passes.
A solution of raw garlic and water may stop wounds from becoming infected.
A solution of raw garlic and water may stop
wounds from becoming infected.
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so less infection risk. Better smell then be ill or death.ginger is also antiviral. But it can´t couver the lungs (no fumes)
"Garlic's potential to combat heart disease has received a lot of attention, but it should receive even more acclaim for its antimicrobial properties. Fresh, raw garlic has proven itself since ancient times as an effective killer of bacteria and viruses. Once again, we can thank allicin. Laboratory studies confirm that raw garlic has antibacterial and antiviral properties. Not only does it knock out many common cold and flu viruses but its effectiveness also spans a broad range of both gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria (two major classifications of bacteria), fungus, intestinal parasites, and yeast. Cooking garlic, however, destroys the allicin, so you'll need to use raw garlic to prevent or fight infections.
Antimicrobial Activity
Garlic's infection-fighting capability was confirmed in a study conducted by researchers at the University of Ottawa that was published in the April 2005 issue of Phytotherapy Research. Researchers tested 19 natural health products that contain garlic and five fresh garlic extracts for active compounds and antimicrobial activity.
They tested the effectiveness of these substances against three types of common bacteria: E. faecalis, which causes urinary tract infections; N. gonorrhoeae, which causes the sexually transmitted disease gonorrhea; and S. aureus, which is responsible for many types of infections that are common in hospitals. The products most successful at eradicating these bacteria were the ones with the highest allicin content.
Now garlic is being investigated to see whether it can help us battle microbes that are resistant to antibiotics. Can garlic go where current antibiotics cannot and knock out the resistant bacteria? Perhaps.
One simple but meaningful demonstration of garlic's antibacterial power can be found in a study conducted at the University of California, Irvine. Garlic juice was tested in the laboratory against a wide spectrum of potential pathogens, including several antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. It showed significant activity against the pathogens. Even more exciting was the fact that garlic juice still retained significant antimicrobial activity even in dilutions ranging up to 1:128 of the original juice.
Garlic and Your Gums
Garlic may even help your gums stay healthy. In a study published in the July 2005 issue of Archives of Oral Biology, researchers concluded that garlic extract inhibits disease-causing bacteria in the mouth and may be valuable in fighting periodontitis, a serious gum disease. (Untreated gingivitis often leads to periodontisis, a condition in which the ligaments and bones supporting the teeth become infected and inflamed, ultimately resulting in tooth loss.)
This is exciting news because oral health can impact the rest of your body. For instance, disease-causing bacteria in your mouth can get into the bloodstream via bleeding gums, travel to your heart valve, and damage it.
Is it possible that garlic can work alongside prescription medications to reduce side effects or to help the drugs work better? Results from several studies say yes.
In a Rutgers University study that used bacteria in lab dishes, garlic and two common antibiotics were pitted against certain antibiotic-resistant strains of S. aureus (a gram-positive bacteria) and E. coli (a gram-negative bacteria). Garlic was able to significantly increase the effectiveness of the two antibiotic medications in killing the bacteria.
Research done in Mexico City at a facility supported by the National Institutes of Health of Mexico also showed some interesting results. It extended previous research in rats that used aged garlic extract and various sulfur-containing compounds from garlic along with gentamicin, a powerful antibiotic that can cause kidney damage. When any of the garlic compounds was ingested along with gentamicin, kidney damage was diminished.
Next, researchers set about to determine whether garlic weakened the effectiveness of gentamicin. As it turns out, the exact opposite happened: Garlic actually enhanced the effect of gentamicin. These findings indicate that with the use of garlic, perhaps less gentamicin would be needed, and kidney damage could be minimized.
Judging by research conducted in lab dishes and animals, it appears that garlic is a strong defender against microbes, even against those that have developed a resistance to common antibiotics. It also appears that garlic enhances the effects of some traditional antibiotics. But does it stand up to the test in humans?
Battling the Bugs Within
Eating raw garlic may help combat the sickness-causing bugs that get loose inside our bodies. Garlic has been used internally as a folk remedy for years, but now the plant is being put to the test scientifically for such uses. So far, its grades are quite good as researchers pit it against a variety of bacteria.
For eons, herbalists loaded soups and other foods with garlic and placed garlic compresses on people's chests to provide relief from colds and chest congestion. Now the Mayo Clinic has stated, "preliminary reports suggest that garlic may reduce the severity of upper respiratory tract infection." The findings have not yet passed the scrutiny of numerous, large, well-designed human studies, so current results are classified as "unclear."
Can a garlic clove help stop your sniffles? A study published in the July/August 2001 issue of Advances in Therapy examined the stinking rose's ability to fight the common cold. The study involved 146 volunteers divided into two groups. One group took a garlic supplement for 12 weeks during the winter months, while the other group received a placebo. The group that received garlic had significantly fewer colds -- and the colds that they did get went away faster -- than the placebo group.
Garlic also may help rid the intestinal tract of Giardia lamblia, a parasite that commonly lives in stream water and causes giardiasis, an infection of the small intestine. Hikers and campers run the risk of this infection whenever they drink untreated stream or lake water.
Herbalists prescribe a solution of one or more crushed garlic cloves stirred into one-third of a cup of water taken three times a day to eradicate Giardia. If you're fighting giardiasis, be sure to consult your health-care provider, because it's a nasty infection, and ask if you can try garlic as part of your treatment.
Finally, in the January 2005 issue of Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, researchers reported the results of an investigation into whether fresh garlic extract would inhibit C. albicans, a cause of yeast infections. The extract was very effective in the first hour of exposure to C. albicans, but the effectiveness decreased during the 48-hour period it was measured. However, traditional antifungal medications also have the same declining effectiveness as time passes.
A solution of raw garlic and water may stop wounds from becoming infected.
A solution of raw garlic and water may stop
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Update NL numbers:
Yesterday from 82 to 182.
Today from 128 to 188.
In italy over 1000 more cases were added.
Yesterday from 82 to 182.
Today from 128 to 188.
In italy over 1000 more cases were added.
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Well my relatives in California just recently got very ill, their whole family is sick and under home isolation for 14 days. They didn't say that they were officially confirmed for the coronavirus and I think they're still waiting for test results but they were told they can't go anywhere, not even a hospital or doctor for anything until then. They're still managing but they've got fevers and say it's quite bad for the lungs but that's about it.
Specter said:
We definitely wish good and fast recovery, please keep us updated. This sounds about normal given this virus.
Are they feeling weak? Any other symptoms? Or a lot like the regular flu?
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
It's pretty much just like the regular flu as they've said. Their throat is in terrible condition too but they say they're getting slightly better. I'm still unsure how they get their supplies but I will definitely update what becomes of them later on. They're only testing and treating patients who are suffering really severe symptoms as they simply do not have enough test kits to check everyone who feels sick.
Brothers and Sisters please post any pertinent news you think that require to be put on this thread for better spreading.
I'm checking situation about corona spreading on www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ . There's a list with all countries that have coronavirus cases, and it shows number of new infections being reported daily. It looks like those statistics are based on local media and most of them have links to articles from current countries.
Funny is this how small infection increase is being noted lately in China comparing to European countries that note 300-1000 daily and growing. It looks like communist Chinese government silenced media what haven't been yet totally done in Europe.
At the moment in Stockholm where I'm living situation look quite normal. Well I'm living in the middle of no go zone from some time and my normality definition may have changed a little bit but about corona there's no panic yet. However media report about 350 cases in Sweden from which almost 100 has been reported yesterday. That means that today it can be 200 and tommorrow 500. For example in Italy it was less than 100 new cases daily in first days of March while now it's almost 1.5K.
Funny is this how small infection increase is being noted lately in China comparing to European countries that note 300-1000 daily and growing. It looks like communist Chinese government silenced media what haven't been yet totally done in Europe.
At the moment in Stockholm where I'm living situation look quite normal. Well I'm living in the middle of no go zone from some time and my normality definition may have changed a little bit but about corona there's no panic yet. However media report about 350 cases in Sweden from which almost 100 has been reported yesterday. That means that today it can be 200 and tommorrow 500. For example in Italy it was less than 100 new cases daily in first days of March while now it's almost 1.5K.
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=144642#p144642
What about this topic?
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Specter said:
I can report personally and through people I know in different zones, in Italy areas with "few" infections reportee see an uncommon number of ambulances running up and down. We see ambulances with plates coming from 400 km or more. Possibly sick people are transferred, or most likely several cases are not fully reported in the news. Something happens behind the scenes.
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Coronavirus x-rays show terrifying damage in lungs of Covid-19 victims
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/coronavirus-x-rays-show-terrifying-21672219
This is serious guys. Death is NOT the only concern here... even if one recovers from the virus, often severe, permanent damage is done to the body, especially the lungs. Recently a double-lung transplant was performed in China because the patient, although recovered from the virus, had extreme lung damage to the point he couldn't breathe without a machine anymore... https://nypost.com/2020/03/02/chinese-doctors-perform-worlds-first-double-lung-transplant-for-coronavirus-victim/
"The man eventually tested negative for the disease, but had suffered irreversible pulmonary damage during his illness."
The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2 may be at least partially responsible for the respiratory failure of COVID-19 patients.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32104915
[This is from a scientific journal and should be taken seriously]
This virus shares highly homological sequence with SARS-CoV, and causes acute, highly lethal pneumonia (COVID-19) with clinical symptoms similar to those reported for SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV. The most characteristic symptom of COVID-19 patients is respiratory distress, and most of the patients admitted to the intensive care could not breathe spontaneously. Additionally, some COVID-19 patients also showed neurologic signs such as headache, nausea and vomiting. Increasing evidence shows that coronaviruses are not always confined to the respiratory tract and that they may also invade the central nervous system inducing neurological diseases. The infection of SARS-CoV has been reported in the brains from both patients and experimental animals, where the brainstem was heavily infected. Furthermore, some coronaviruses have been demonstrated able to spread via a synapse-connected route to the medullary cardiorespiratory center from the mechano- and chemoreceptors in the lung and lower respiratory airways. In light of the high similarity between SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV2, it is quite likely that the potential invasion of SARS-CoV2 is partially responsible for the acute respiratory failure of COVID-19 patients.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/coronavirus-x-rays-show-terrifying-21672219
This is serious guys. Death is NOT the only concern here... even if one recovers from the virus, often severe, permanent damage is done to the body, especially the lungs. Recently a double-lung transplant was performed in China because the patient, although recovered from the virus, had extreme lung damage to the point he couldn't breathe without a machine anymore... https://nypost.com/2020/03/02/chinese-doctors-perform-worlds-first-double-lung-transplant-for-coronavirus-victim/
"The man eventually tested negative for the disease, but had suffered irreversible pulmonary damage during his illness."
The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2 may be at least partially responsible for the respiratory failure of COVID-19 patients.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32104915
[This is from a scientific journal and should be taken seriously]
This virus shares highly homological sequence with SARS-CoV, and causes acute, highly lethal pneumonia (COVID-19) with clinical symptoms similar to those reported for SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV. The most characteristic symptom of COVID-19 patients is respiratory distress, and most of the patients admitted to the intensive care could not breathe spontaneously. Additionally, some COVID-19 patients also showed neurologic signs such as headache, nausea and vomiting. Increasing evidence shows that coronaviruses are not always confined to the respiratory tract and that they may also invade the central nervous system inducing neurological diseases. The infection of SARS-CoV has been reported in the brains from both patients and experimental animals, where the brainstem was heavily infected. Furthermore, some coronaviruses have been demonstrated able to spread via a synapse-connected route to the medullary cardiorespiratory center from the mechano- and chemoreceptors in the lung and lower respiratory airways. In light of the high similarity between SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV2, it is quite likely that the potential invasion of SARS-CoV2 is partially responsible for the acute respiratory failure of COVID-19 patients.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/sports/basketball/nba-season-suspended-coronavirus.html
BasketBall is over. By this point all "professional" sports need to suspend their seasons. Its pretty obvious that mass gatherings need to end for a while until the coronavirus is over. March Madness is here as well. To continue on with any parties or arenas is fucking stupid.
BasketBall is over. By this point all "professional" sports need to suspend their seasons. Its pretty obvious that mass gatherings need to end for a while until the coronavirus is over. March Madness is here as well. To continue on with any parties or arenas is fucking stupid.
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Nearly every major musical event/festival scheduled between now and May, seemingly have all announced cancellation today.
The virus hasn't broke out in my area yet, but just this week people have been buying out alot of supplies from stores here..
Really glad that we were given the heads up here, because I am fairly well stocked.
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