Communism and Capitalism: Shit Theory, Shit Practice.

[Psychxdeliclove666]

While many are quick to point out the "theory vs. reality" failures of communism and capitalism, I want to open up a new argument that will make it impossible for any commie or capitalist to claim that "[x] hasn't been applied correctly!"

Simply because the ideal application is evil.

Ignoring both ideologies disregard for culture, ethnicity, etc., one must break their foundational stones.

Both ideologies have pulled out of their ass this false dichotomy of all history being "class struggle", and advocate for their own specific preferred class to benefit over one another.

Ignoring the absurdity of functionality (i.e. everyone must cooperate in an economy for anyone to succeed), one must point out that it's not money, or anything like that that creates shit people doing shitty things, but shit people are among all classes. Morality, and anything important, does not lay on this arbitrary statistic of wealth.

A good rich man will put his money to good causes, an evil rich man will put his money for evil causes. A good poor man will help anyway he can, an evil poor man will make his earnings by fraudulent and dishonorable methods. It depends on morality, not wealth.

One from either of these ideologies may point to statistics: "Rich people on average fund more evil than good!" "Poor people on average do most of the criminal acts in this world!", so on and so forth.

Ignoring the explanations for these statistics (most of the modern rich are yehuborim, most of the poor today have no choice, etc.)

One must ask: "And?"

Okay, so what? Where the connecting piece we're missing? So what?

If I told you that there was a positive correlation between ice-cream consumption and rape, would you stop eating icecream? If I told you that 100% of serial killers and pedophiles both use water on a frequent basis, would you stop drinking water? A similar but unrelated example, if it was a law of nature that literally ever cuck has a 400 IQ, would you do such an evil thing?

One needs to understand that correlation =/= causation. There is no causation between wealth and morality. Correlations may exist, but being poor or rich doesn't cause one to automatically be good or evil.

One may then point to suffering caused on such basis, mostly on the poor end done by capitalism: "We must let the conditions exterminate the poor, for they are not fit for survival in any economy today, capitalist or otherwise". Ignoring that survival in an immoral system is no sign of virtue, so what? Literally, and? By your logic, we should all kill ourselves because we're not fit to live in a Yehubor-run planet.

The same goes for those who prohibit marriage of rich or poor: "On average, it's harder for couples and children of such families to deal with than monoclass families.", So what?

Some who already live in communist/capitalist nations will say "Oh, but we are (rich/poor)! It is not our duty to help the other class, for we must have our own self-determination as our class!". Ignoring the fact that this does not functionally work (economic cooperation is necessary for a healthy economy), one can see how immoral and evil this is. I do not need to explain it.

Some may say, "But we are not equal! Free men are not equal, and equal men are not free!", asides from the "So what?" "How does this imply or show a causation of anything?", I shall let Joseph Goebbels speak:

"The fatherland shall one day be like this: We're not all equal, but we're all brothers."
-Joseph Goebbels

One must think with morals as the utmost priority, never doing the immoral thing, as is expected of a Zevist, and one will see what is there. One must think laterally, and see everything in all ways. Critical thinking alone is someone saying "___ is better than ___", and you simply saying "yes/no". Lateral thinking is someone saying "___ is better than ___", and you saying "Why are ____ and ____ being compared? Why not ____ and ____ instead?".

What do you guys think?

This was an attempt at looking at the ideology from a new way and tacking them from their first entrances at their foundational stones. This will allow us to move from the get-go to the offensive and allow the practitioners of such ideologies the true immorality behind them.

 

[darkmonkey666]

While many are quick to point out the "theory vs. reality" failures of communism and capitalism, I want to open up a new argument that will make it impossible for any commie or capitalist to claim that "[x] hasn't been applied correctly!"

Simply because the ideal application is evil.

Ignoring both ideologies disregard for culture, ethnicity, etc., one must break their foundational stones.

Both ideologies have pulled out of their ass this false dichotomy of all history being "class struggle", and advocate for their own specific preferred class to benefit over one another.

Ignoring the absurdity of functionality (i.e. everyone must cooperate in an economy for anyone to succeed), one must point out that it's not money, or anything like that that creates shit people doing shitty things, but shit people are among all classes. Morality, and anything important, does not lay on this arbitrary statistic of wealth.

A good rich man will put his money to good causes, an evil rich man will put his money for evil causes. A good poor man will help anyway he can, an evil poor man will make his earnings by fraudulent and dishonorable methods. It depends on morality, not wealth.

One from either of these ideologies may point to statistics: "Rich people on average fund more evil than good!" "Poor people on average do most of the criminal acts in this world!", so on and so forth.

Ignoring the explanations for these statistics (most of the modern rich are yehuborim, most of the poor today have no choice, etc.)

One must ask: "And?"

Okay, so what? Where the connecting piece we're missing? So what?

If I told you that there was a positive correlation between ice-cream consumption and rape, would you stop eating icecream? If I told you that 100% of serial killers and pedophiles both use water on a frequent basis, would you stop drinking water? A similar but unrelated example, if it was a law of nature that literally ever cuck has a 400 IQ, would you do such an evil thing?

One needs to understand that correlation =/= causation. There is no causation between wealth and morality. Correlations may exist, but being poor or rich doesn't cause one to automatically be good or evil.

One may then point to suffering caused on such basis, mostly on the poor end done by capitalism: "We must let the conditions exterminate the poor, for they are not fit for survival in any economy today, capitalist or otherwise". Ignoring that survival in an immoral system is no sign of virtue, so what? Literally, and? By your logic, we should all kill ourselves because we're not fit to live in a Yehubor-run planet.

The same goes for those who prohibit marriage of rich or poor: "On average, it's harder for couples and children of such families to deal with than monoclass families.", So what?

Some who already live in communist/capitalist nations will say "Oh, but we are (rich/poor)! It is not our duty to help the other class, for we must have our own self-determination as our class!". Ignoring the fact that this does not functionally work (economic cooperation is necessary for a healthy economy), one can see how immoral and evil this is. I do not need to explain it.

Some may say, "But we are not equal! Free men are not equal, and equal men are not free!", asides from the "So what?" "How does this imply or show a causation of anything?", I shall let Joseph Goebbels speak:

"The fatherland shall one day be like this: We're not all equal, but we're all brothers."
-Joseph Goebbels

One must think with morals as the utmost priority, never doing the immoral thing, as is expected of a Zevist, and one will see what is there. One must think laterally, and see everything in all ways. Critical thinking alone is someone saying "___ is better than ___", and you simply saying "yes/no". Lateral thinking is someone saying "___ is better than ___", and you saying "Why are ____ and ____ being compared? Why not ____ and ____ instead?".

What do you guys think?

This was an attempt at looking at the ideology from a new way and tacking them from their first entrances at their foundational stones. This will allow us to move from the get-go to the offensive and allow the practitioners of such ideologies the true immorality behind them.

I very much like what you said another part of the problem in both systems is that in order to make it to the top you pretty much have to have no morals and be as evil as possible. There is a possibility of a good rich man but that is the falseness of the system we are talking about a good rich man in the system not an overlord or someone on top. They may have 10 million or more but they are not a one percenter there is not a good billionaire or person who actually controls things. You pretty much have to resort to something bad or be funded by criminals to make it there. This is under both systems. This of course allows only the yehuborim to be at the very top cause most Potential people of the Gods would be unable to act that way fully even if they tried.

I think under both systems here there is something that prevents any potential person of the Gods from really making it past a certain point or at least any person who actually is good at heart.

This is the reason why we have to abolish these systems. Everything will always be shit under these systems no matter what cause it’s always shit people controlling and ruling over the peasants or poor/middle class and also the fake upper class that is just for show. The yehuborim are the real upper class not the person that saved a few millions and owns a mansion or had a successful business on good principals.

 

[Psychxdeliclove666]

Sly, I don't think that's dumb at all. Those are all valid points, in fact.

The point of this thread was to look at how we handle such things from a new angle. Too many times we get stuck up in "It wasn't correctly applied", and becomes a shitfest after that, so I thought we'd create a new way to tackle them, where, none of that really matters.