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Coffe and spiritual deveploment

88HungarianSatanicWarrior6661 min to read

I greetings to all true Zevism.

I have read many comments on this forum about coffee, but none of them have been satisfactory answers.
So I would ask those true Zevists who are reading this, do you think coffee is harmful to spiritual development?
Because I have yet to see anyone here claiming that it is harmful.I have read sermons on drugs,alcohol,cigarettes,not to mention other stronger and harder drugs(LSD,cocaine,etc,etc,),that are clearly harmful to spiritual health.

But do according think coffee is also harmful to spiritual development?
Because I haven't seen it specifically mentioned anywhere that coffee is harmful to spiritual development.I tried to look at several other non-Satanic sources, but I couldn't find anything.These sources did not even mention the connection between coffee and the energy bodies and chakras.

Thank you in advance for your replies,broders and sisters.

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Darkpagan666said:
88HungarianSatanicWarrior666said:

I could add this much to the coffee,another side effect of coffee, which no one has mentioned in this thread, is that it acidifies the blood (lowers the PH of the blood).

For food and beverages to alter the pH in the blood, it takes a considerable amount that is detrimental to the point of Lever and/or Kidney failure.

Everything has a pH value that's typically charted on a scale of 0-14, though the range can be greater or smaller. Values below 7 (neutral) denote acidic substances versus alkalis (or bases), which rank upwards of 7 on the chart.

A nice piece this writing.

I read about the acid/base balance about 4 years ago.
I would add that minerals (calcium, potassium, magnesium, zinc) are also alkalizing.However, there are also as mineral substances that are acidifying, such as phosphorus.
Most fruits also alkalinise the blood, even though they are acidic, because during digestion, when they are absorbed, they have an alkalising effect for some reason(I don't know exactly why).But if there are not enough minerals in the blood to alkalise, then the body draws minerals from the bones and tendons to alkalise.

And coffee acidifies the blood not only because it is acidic, but also because coffee helps to eliminate minerals from the body.

I would like to add that I wrote this from memory, which I have now laid down, so from information from 4 years ago (that I remember).

Thanks for this extra information, I didn't know these processes in so much detail.
What I read 4 years ago was longer than what you describe here.What I read was more about the consequences of acidification (diseases, other symptoms).
But what you describe here is more of a biological process (acidification).

#21
88HungarianSatanicWarrior666said:

I would love to read about your experiences with coffee.

How were you able to quit and what, if any, withdrawal symptoms did you experience, or what did you do to make up for the energy problems (if any) caused by the lack of coffee, etc.

It is said that it is recommended to give up coffee gradually, by reducing the daily amounts. Maybe I'm quitting a little too quickly. But it wasn't very hard, I had withdrawal symptoms for 3 days, even though I was a big coffee drinker.

For 3 days I was very tired and had a bit of a headache. I did not take any energy supplements, I survived. :) From the fourth day it was as if I had never had coffee.

I felt the good effects of quitting from the very beginning. I was able to go to sleep at a normal time in the evening, sleep was more restful and my dreams seemed to be more vivid, and I remembered them better.

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Dark Lawyersaid:
88HungarianSatanicWarrior666said:

I would love to read about your experiences with coffee.

How were you able to quit and what, if any, withdrawal symptoms did you experience, or what did you do to make up for the energy problems (if any) caused by the lack of coffee, etc.

It is said that it is recommended to give up coffee gradually, by reducing the daily amounts. Maybe I'm quitting a little too quickly. But it wasn't very hard, I had withdrawal symptoms for 3 days, even though I was a big coffee drinker.

For 3 days I was very tired and had a bit of a headache. I did not take any energy supplements, I survived. :) From the fourth day it was as if I had never had coffee.

I will write in Hungarian,because the translator doesn't render it the way it should.If you want to know what I'm writing, use a translator.

If you know Hungarian and read the following text,please turn off the web translator, because it also translates the Hungarian text wrongly, not as I originally wrote it.

Aki tud magyarul és olvassa a következő szöveget,akkor kérem kapcsolja ki a webfordítót,mert a magyar szöveget is félrefordítja,nem úgy adja vissza,ahogyan eredetileg írtam.

Volt,amikor egy kicsivel később ittam meg az aznapi második kávémat(amit ebéd után szoktam)és úgy éreztem,mintha az egész testem(talán az idegrendszerem) össze akarna szakadni(ezt jobban nem tudom leírni),pedig aznap már ittam reggelire egy jó erős kávét.

Egyszer én is megpróbáltam leszokni a kávéról,de sajnos másnap visszatértem rá.
Egyébként én is úgy csináltam,hogy hirtelen megvontam.Viszont itt a fórumon valahol Blitzkreig azt írta,hogy a sok kávé káros a vesékre,de a hirtelen abbahagyása is káros.
Ezt a károsságát én is éreztem,amikor hirtelen leszoktam.Viszont,amikor megpróbáltam leszokni,a reggeli órákban hihetetlenül rosszul éreztem magam,de délutánra összeszedettebnek éreztem magam,és elég kiválóan,aztán pedig újra jött egyfajta nyomott érzés és a derekamban is húzódást,fáradtságot éreztem a derekamban.Viszont fáradékonyabb is voltam(testileg,mentálisan és lelkileg is),és hamarabb beestem az ágyba,de a szüleim miatt kicsit nehézkes aludni,mert elég sokat hangoskodnak,meg a hülye apám üvölteti a TV-t.Ezért kissé nehézkes lessz leszoknom.

Azt is láttam,ahol azt írtad,hogy leszoktál a piáról mindenféle segítség nélkül.Ehhez külön gratulálok.A hülye apám példát vehetne rólad,és valószínűleg megirigyelne téged. :lol: :D :) :mrgreen: Ő valószínűleg még segítséggel se tudna leszokni az alkoholról.De egyébként nem is szándékozik leszokni a piáról,még gondolatban sem.

Köszönöm ezt a rövid,de egyben értékes beszámolódat.

#23

I absolutely require it to stay grounded. I was put on amphetamines as a child for add and now my brain is wired that way.

#24

Based on my Yogi days I can tell you it's absolutely normal to enjoy it daily in a responsible amount.

#25

For me, the crash is the medicative part. At least these days...

#26
Shadowcatsaid:

I just found this video randomly and I have a love-hate relationship with caffeine myself. I have heard conflicting evidence, like a little bit is good for you, and good for anti-aging and other things and here it says the opposite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OnDutaQLe4 especially check the list at 2:43

Honestly, it would explain the lower abdominal cramps I sometimes get, and maybe the chance for bladder infections. I actually got over one recently, and I am on antibiotics again on suspicion for another...i am starting to wonder if caffeine is the culprit. I also had heart palpitations about a month ago. I notice when I try to stop for a few days I get tired and have a headache.

Blitzkreig [JGsaid:

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Hey Dr. Blitz what do you think?

#27
Shadowcatsaid:

I just found this video randomly and I have a love-hate relationship with caffeine myself. I have heard conflicting evidence, like a little bit is good for you, and good for anti-aging and other things and here it says the opposite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OnDutaQLe4 especially check the list at 2:43

Unfortunately I don't understand the video because I don't speak perfect English.But I stopped at 2:43 and entered them one by one into the translator.
Anyway, I also hear from some sources that coffee is good, but other sources definitely say it is bad.
There were also quite a few mixed comments on the spiritual effects of coffee in this thread.

Anyway, after lunch today I went for a walk and had a coffee after the walk.And I had really bad digestion.I felt like I was getting bloated and I cramp.I have seen sources of information that claim that coffee helps digestion by triggering the production of digestive enzymes.Well, that's not what I experienced today.Lol,Btw. :roll:

Shadowcatsaid:

Honestly, it would explain the lower abdominal cramps I sometimes get, and maybe the chance for bladder infections. I actually got over one recently, and I am on antibiotics again on suspicion for another...i am starting to wonder if caffeine is the culprit. I also had heart palpitations about a month ago. I notice when I try to stop for a few days I get tired and have a headache.

One thing I would add about abdominal cramping is that it may be caused by the antibiotic killing the beneficial gut bacteria, one of the symptoms of lower abdominal cramp.

By the way,I've had antibiotic treatment for my teeth several times, but the last time I couldn't even take the antibiotics,because made my stomach hurt so badly.

Shadowcatsaid:
Blitzkreig [JGsaid:

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Hey Dr. Blitz what do you think?

Is he(Blitzkreig) a doctor? :? :shock: .Or are you just speaking metaphorically?

Асуряsaid:

Based on my Yogi days I can tell you it's absolutely normal to enjoy it daily in a responsible amount.

If you want to get off amphetamines, I can recommend this.https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=69943

For example:Vibrate Surya or Raum, maybe Visudhi 111x, and say the following:" "My soul/chakra of choice is completely free of the negative effects of the amphetamine, in the healthiest and most positive way for me, now and forever."
You can develop something similar, or ask for help from more serious (advanced) ToZ members,if you want.

#28
Shadowcatsaid:
88HungarianSatanicWarrior666said:
Shadowcatsaid:

I just found this video randomly and I have a love-hate relationship with caffeine myself. I have heard conflicting evidence, like a little bit is good for you, and good for anti-aging and other things and here it says the opposite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OnDutaQLe4 especially check the list at 2:43

Unfortunately I don't understand the video because I don't speak perfect English.But I stopped at 2:43 and entered them one by one into the translator.
Anyway, I also hear from some sources that coffee is good, but other sources definitely say it is bad.
There were also quite a few mixed comments on the spiritual effects of coffee in this thread.

Anyway, after lunch today I went for a walk and had a coffee after the walk.And I had really bad digestion.I felt like I was getting bloated and I cramp.I have seen sources of information that claim that coffee helps digestion by triggering the production of digestive enzymes.Well, that's not what I experienced today.Lol,Btw. :roll:

He isn't officially but he is pretty good with TCM and has given me advice that I have found quite helpful.

The first time I realized coffee was a medicine is when my classmate showed up with a herbal book written in german ...

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