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Cobra was right about Azorm and gang

darkmonkey666

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They seem to have mostly turned against the JOS. I have realized that now. I choose to take the side of the Gods here. I no longer want to be involved in their petty emotional stuff. I will move on from it as you all should. They are the ones that shared the Magestein stuff with me. What they say is the same kind of stuff that is on those forums. I no longer trust them to be honest. Yes they have helped me with stuff but I can find serious Zevism people to talk too. I find them toxic. They feel I am dumb and not "logical". Azorm said her energy conflicts with me too much. I notice it too. That is cause I actually decided that I want to follow the Gods and be more serious about meditation.

So to end my association with them. I post this too the Groups since everyone thinks I work for them or I am their bitch.

I have decided enough is enough with this toxic bullshit. They are saying the same kind of stuff that people said to me in High School to be honest.

Plus Shael appears to be a straight up traitor.

I want to be no ones Bitch so I am making it clear I am not.
 
I just find it counter productive that people spend their time such as this or just go into these strange ego trips and worthless things.

These are disappointing to the Gods too. But these people generally put themselves "Above" the Gods, which is why they generally have nothing and will forever be nothing. It is therefore certain everyone else here too, will be "worthless sheep" and "stupid" to them, because of this mentality.

This mentality is generally present in stupid people or very young people, and there is nothing that can be done to stop that.

I cannot spend time to even explain or care about these things, but in general, it's an unpleasant situation everytime this happens.
 
Ok I do not want to be associated with this by everyone. That is why I posted this. I do not want to cause drama. I was mad last night when I posted this so if this came across wrong I am sorry.

I just want to warn people that they very much likely are trying to convert people away from these forums. They tried it with me. What she got mad at was the fact I was still spending time here. She thought it was a waste of time and apparently wanted me on those other forums instead or some other place. She also was slowly trying to introduce me to the idea that the rituals we are doing are a waste of time things like that. It was like slow they didn't start out saying the same things but slowly introduced me to ideas leading to what was on that other forums she shared with me.

I did not want to leave here as I have made progress with the meditations and I do not agree with her assessments on other Zevism here. I also feel that we are making major progress on things and it's fine the way it is. I mean if people want to do some extra stuff on their own time ok but we should follow the ritual scedules mainly and put most effort into that. They could not agree to that very well.

So I had no choice. I am aware she has done this with other people too.

I felt I had to warn people and stop talking to them.
 
jrvan said:
Okay, cool. NOW we can go on the fuck Shael train. Unless he comes back and redeems himself.

Proud of you, brother. I believed in you. You just seemed a little crazy in your message and energy that one night when you replied to me, but you returned to normal not that long after. Also, you're not anyone's bitch, sheesh. You arrived to this conclusion independently after giving people the benefit of the doubt. You're a free thinker, and you care deeply about people. Don't be too hard on yourself. I know I would be very lucky to have someone like you in my corner as an advocate if I ever needed it. It's just that Azorm and company don't deserve you.

It was partly Hebrew energy and curses dealing with an unrelated thing that was kind of blinding me to this whole thing but once that was more cleaned away I started suspecting them.

But yeah I always try to advocate for people on my side as well as stick up for the underdog and those misunderstood. I love helping others. This can lead me into trouble and make me impressionable it is a negative thing of having Pisces in a prominent place. I have to learn to stick up for myself more and not be lead by others sometimes I even take on emotions and attitudes of others. It has happened before too. I am kind of sensitive.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
I just find it counter productive that people spend their time such as this or just go into these strange ego trips and worthless things.

These are disappointing to the Gods too. But these people generally put themselves "Above" the Gods, which is why they generally have nothing and will forever be nothing. It is therefore certain everyone else here too, will be "worthless sheep" and "stupid" to them, because of this mentality.

This mentality is generally present in stupid people or very young people, and there is nothing that can be done to stop that.

I cannot spend time to even explain or care about these things, but in general, it's an unpleasant situation everytime this happens.
I shouldn't say "I told you so." But I told you so that Mageson was the one who was pulling the strings. It was too similar to the things Mageson was saying and I knew they didn't come up with these things on their own.
 
slyscorpion said:
They seem to have mostly turned against the JOS. I have realized that now. I choose to take the side of the Gods here. I no longer want to be involved in their petty emotional stuff. I will move on from it as you all should. They are the ones that shared the Magestein stuff with me. What they say is the same kind of stuff that is on those forums. I no longer trust them to be honest. Yes they have helped me with stuff but I can find serious Zevism people to talk too. I find them toxic. They feel I am dumb and not "logical". Azorm said her energy conflicts with me too much. I notice it too. That is cause I actually decided that I want to follow the Gods and be more serious about meditation.

So to end my association with them. I post this too the Groups since everyone thinks I work for them or I am their bitch.

I have decided enough is enough with this toxic bullshit. They are saying the same kind of stuff that people said to me in High School to be honest.

Plus Shael appears to be a straight up traitor.

I want to be no ones Bitch so I am making it clear I am not.
Im sorry you got roped into this situation brother. I knew that these people were being manipulated by Mageson and I thought that you were in on it too. But it turns out that you were being influenced also so i apologize for attacking you.

I would advise you to do the removal of Connections and putting up a protective barrier against these people.
 
Jack said:
slyscorpion said:
They seem to have mostly turned against the JOS. I have realized that now. I choose to take the side of the Gods here. I no longer want to be involved in their petty emotional stuff. I will move on from it as you all should. They are the ones that shared the Magestein stuff with me. What they say is the same kind of stuff that is on those forums. I no longer trust them to be honest. Yes they have helped me with stuff but I can find serious Zevism people to talk too. I find them toxic. They feel I am dumb and not "logical". Azorm said her energy conflicts with me too much. I notice it too. That is cause I actually decided that I want to follow the Gods and be more serious about meditation.

So to end my association with them. I post this too the Groups since everyone thinks I work for them or I am their bitch.

I have decided enough is enough with this toxic bullshit. They are saying the same kind of stuff that people said to me in High School to be honest.

Plus Shael appears to be a straight up traitor.

I want to be no ones Bitch so I am making it clear I am not.
Im sorry you got roped into this situation brother. I knew that these people were being manipulated by Mageson and I thought that you were in on it too. But it turns out that you were being influenced also so i apologize for attacking you.

I would advise you to do the removal of Connections and putting up a protective barrier against these people.

Yeah I am sorry I attacked you. 100 percent this was only based upon what Azorm said nothing else.

She had a negative opinion of a lot of Zevism people on here. Claiming they were blinded by Hebrew curses or using weed like with Luciftias she claimed she had a screen shot of him saying that but I could not get it from her. That kind of stuff I won't go into all details but it gives an example of the kind of thing she would say often.

So I don't think I can believe anything she said. She even claimed stuff about Cobra like he said I was mentally insane or something and she should avoid me to her last year.

She was probably trying to turn me on him. It didn't really work fully but had me wondering for a bit

Which is funny she said that before starting saying the same stuff magesun said

Yes it appears this all is based upon the magesun guy. Because how the fuck if it's not could she basically be claiming most the same stuff he did.

I honestly think she turned on us all together. I mean Zevism don't act like this.
 
slyscorpion said:
They seem to have mostly turned against the JOS. I have realized that now. I choose to take the side of the Gods here. I no longer want to be involved in their petty emotional stuff. I will move on from it as you all should. They are the ones that shared the Magestein stuff with me. What they say is the same kind of stuff that is on those forums. I no longer trust them to be honest. Yes they have helped me with stuff but I can find serious Zevism people to talk too. I find them toxic. They feel I am dumb and not "logical". Azorm said her energy conflicts with me too much. I notice it too. That is cause I actually decided that I want to follow the Gods and be more serious about meditation.

So to end my association with them. I post this too the Groups since everyone thinks I work for them or I am their bitch.

I have decided enough is enough with this toxic bullshit. They are saying the same kind of stuff that people said to me in High School to be honest.

Plus Shael appears to be a straight up traitor.

I want to be no ones Bitch so I am making it clear I am not.

Returning curses 1 and 2, with 216 reps of Surya.

Detach from those people spiritually speaking as well , and don’t dwell on them, especially not about Azorm, as where Your mind goes, energy flows and an involuntary connection could be (re-)established.

Good luck brother!
 
Jack said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
I just find it counter productive that people spend their time such as this or just go into these strange ego trips and worthless things.

These are disappointing to the Gods too. But these people generally put themselves "Above" the Gods, which is why they generally have nothing and will forever be nothing. It is therefore certain everyone else here too, will be "worthless sheep" and "stupid" to them, because of this mentality.

This mentality is generally present in stupid people or very young people, and there is nothing that can be done to stop that.

I cannot spend time to even explain or care about these things, but in general, it's an unpleasant situation everytime this happens.
I shouldn't say "I told you so." But I told you so that Mageson was the one who was pulling the strings. It was too similar to the things Mageson was saying and I knew they didn't come up with these things on their own.

I said the same thing. The arguments shael gave me for doubting the whole situation with Pythia, I saw just recently were the same arguments mageson gave. Which officially led me to believe that he defected and with help. Their failed forum is a joke.
 
I am not aware of the situation. What happened? What did Shael do?
 
slyscorpion said:
Ok I do not want to be associated with this by everyone. That is why I posted this. I do not want to cause drama. I was mad last night when I posted this so if this came across wrong I am sorry.

I just want to warn people that they very much likely are trying to convert people away from these forums. They tried it with me. What she got mad at was the fact I was still spending time here. She thought it was a waste of time and apparently wanted me on those other forums instead or some other place. She also was slowly trying to introduce me to the idea that the rituals we are doing are a waste of time things like that. It was like slow they didn't start out saying the same things but slowly introduced me to ideas leading to what was on that other forums she shared with me.

I did not want to leave here as I have made progress with the meditations and I do not agree with her assessments on other Zevism here. I also feel that we are making major progress on things and it's fine the way it is. I mean if people want to do some extra stuff on their own time ok but we should follow the ritual scedules mainly and put most effort into that. They could not agree to that very well.

So I had no choice. I am aware she has done this with other people too.

I felt I had to warn people and stop talking to them.
I don't want to be associated with Azorm as well anymore. I don't talk to her anymore anyway.

She used to be fine in the past and helped me a lot she was kind aswell then she got on a depressing train and started hating most of her friends and being really cold with them including me.

What happened between you and her that was the tipping point for this Slyscorpion? Did you get into a fight or something?
 
mercury_wisdom said:
slyscorpion said:
Ok I do not want to be associated with this by everyone. That is why I posted this. I do not want to cause drama. I was mad last night when I posted this so if this came across wrong I am sorry.

I just want to warn people that they very much likely are trying to convert people away from these forums. They tried it with me. What she got mad at was the fact I was still spending time here. She thought it was a waste of time and apparently wanted me on those other forums instead or some other place. She also was slowly trying to introduce me to the idea that the rituals we are doing are a waste of time things like that. It was like slow they didn't start out saying the same things but slowly introduced me to ideas leading to what was on that other forums she shared with me.

I did not want to leave here as I have made progress with the meditations and I do not agree with her assessments on other Zevism here. I also feel that we are making major progress on things and it's fine the way it is. I mean if people want to do some extra stuff on their own time ok but we should follow the ritual scedules mainly and put most effort into that. They could not agree to that very well.

So I had no choice. I am aware she has done this with other people too.

I felt I had to warn people and stop talking to them.
I don't want to be associated with Azorm as well anymore. I don't talk to her anymore anyway.

She used to be fine in the past and helped me a lot she was kind aswell then she got on a depressing train and started hating most of her friends and being really cold with them including me.

What happened between you and her that was the tipping point for this Slyscorpion? Did you get into a fight or something?

Similar happened with me what happened with me is I recognized one of the manipulation tactics she used cause I saw someone use it before in another unrelated situation even using the exact type of phrase and words.

That happened a couple nights ago that's when I decided fuck that.

I also don't like people not being open about how they think and feel she kept being silent to me too much but after recognizing a manipulation tactic it made me mad.

I also strongly believe Baal was helping me cause I sensed his energy and presence strongly after I got done posting this message.
 
I had Azorm and Shael email me.

But nothing happened just one or two emails and gone. I did receive help with squares by Shael stating add the sides or diagonal and you get a harmonious synching with the square for affirmation repetition. But unfortunately it pist me off cause I should have done the Sun Square for material wealth with 10 affirmations since 10 = material, material manifestation, money, property(both fixed and mobile), and it's protective. I did 3 reps.

But I don't think they were trying to be friends with me or anything. Maybe I don't know but all I know is I tried emailing them two or three times for some assistance and never responded so this was what 2019(Spring/Summer period) when the Sun/Venus/Jupiter squares were available at specific good times.

Never knew till a few months back when this situation was revealed that the situation got this bad.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:

I was being manipulated too myself for a bit. I cannot rule out the possiblity that they use enemy magick too. I found it strange the amount of negative energy around her all the time. Despite the fact she was constantly saying she was working on things hours each day and meditating to empower this or that chakra and getting close to raising the kundalini working with the Gods etc.

I too was trying to work on getting over psychological issues and things. After a little over two years of working on that often my energy was much lighter. Even my girlfriend improved more than she did and she was putting in less effort than me.

I call BS on everything she claimed.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Shadowcat said:
Jack said:
I shouldn't say "I told you so." But I told you so that Mageson was the one who was pulling the strings. It was too similar to the things Mageson was saying and I knew they didn't come up with these things on their own.

I said the same thing. The arguments shael gave me for doubting the whole situation with Pythia, I saw just recently were the same arguments mageson gave. Which officially led me to believe that he defected and with help. Their failed forum is a joke.

...

Dillusional to say the least. Before I cut people from that group off, in the beginning they tried to tell me my incubus was poly. It left me disheartened for sometime thinking I was tricked or that I did something wrong. I noticed how they were insecure most of the time with "abilities". Especially when I saw things that weren't consistent among other things that were wrong and when what they claimed to me was even further debunked in other ways recently, I just disregarded everything.

Personal vendetta and butthurt were definately roles in alot of this.
 
Meteor said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
slyscorpion said:
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I call BS on everything she claimed.
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Yes but I may need a little advice and help here. I do believe I connected to something bad with her some what at least.

But anyways I did notice the last two years I wasn't really enjoying life at all and I thought the world sucked and all that. She would constantly go on about how everyone and everything sucked etc.

I also didn't feel the Gods around me at all and couldn't seem to contact them I thought they just couldn't hear me anymore or didn't want to listen or were busy etc. For awhile.
 
slyscorpion said:
Ok I do not want to be associated with this by everyone. That is why I posted this. I do not want to cause drama. I was mad last night when I posted this so if this came across wrong I am sorry.

I just want to warn people that they very much likely are trying to convert people away from these forums. They tried it with me. What she got mad at was the fact I was still spending time here. She thought it was a waste of time and apparently wanted me on those other forums instead or some other place. She also was slowly trying to introduce me to the idea that the rituals we are doing are a waste of time things like that. It was like slow they didn't start out saying the same things but slowly introduced me to ideas leading to what was on that other forums she shared with me.

I did not want to leave here as I have made progress with the meditations and I do not agree with her assessments on other Zevism here. I also feel that we are making major progress on things and it's fine the way it is. I mean if people want to do some extra stuff on their own time ok but we should follow the ritual scedules mainly and put most effort into that. They could not agree to that very well.

So I had no choice. I am aware she has done this with other people too.

I felt I had to warn people and stop talking to them.
I'm not surprised. Focus on yourself and keep advancing. From the moment Shael started attacking HPZM I knew it was a disgusting sewer rat, Azorm appears to be as well. These don't deserve our attention, we just acknowledge what they are and move on.
 
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Even from the little interactions I’ve had with him shael always came off as a very nasty and hostile swamp creature. You can feel the aura of condescension emanating from all of his posts. I know some newer people like jrvan once said he didn’t really understand why shael was booted for the comments about hps Pythia but that was just the tip of iceberg when it came to him and his behavior.
 
The problem here is that you talk to these people but in reality they're not going anywhere. If they're sitting around talking to you all day, they're not really advancing are they? The JoS is not a little social club. So of course they're full of negativity because they are not doing what they claim they are doing or may be doing worse.

Now you disagree with them, not because what they say is intellectually bankrupt or incredibly dangerous, but because they are mean to you and act like high schoolers. After the nth time this has happened since the groups migrated to the forums, this scenario doesn't need all these occult explanations and excuses when you can just use your reasoning abilities.

There is literally proof of what I am saying. Azorm's posts were full of weird depression stories, her talking about joining some quasi-JoS ripoff in her own country led by abusive people, complaining about going insane, everyone else being wrong but her and endless guilt all the time over nothing. The peak of this was when she claimed to have an ascended kundalini, then in the next sentence claimed she was pushing massive blobs of gray energy (!!!) into her aura every day and told someone else to do so! SO DESPITE BEING A MEMBER OF THE JOS FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS, DID SHE EVEN READ ANYTHING ON THE SITE?! When corrected she then went on this massive rampage of guilt tripping everyone for weeks.

Whatever she is, these things alone are not a good combination with Satanism. Of course she will blame what she did (INVOKING DEATH ENERGY ONTO HERSELF EVERY DAY) on the Ritual.

Shael after a point spent most of his time baiting SWG and Jack as part of some weird vendetta about politics and sexuality, which I personally felt was strange. It was especially off when Shael told everyone to 'take Azorm's advice' in invoking grey energy, then insulted Jack for saying this was dangerous.

HP Zevios Metathronos as usual had to correct every extremely dangerous thing said here, meanwhile the other person we shall not name of course was nowhere to be seen, very helpful. People could have literally died following this 'advice' but HP Zevios Metathronos had to mop up all the crap. The same applies to amazing nuggets I've seen such as 'invoke Fire into your Sacral Chakra' (deadly), another product of telegram tattle tales and a personality cult, which is AGAIN against what is written on the site. And also recently 'sv3rige told me to look directly into the Sun so legally blind' ignoring what the site says about bright lights. How is any of this blameable on the JoS?

Anyone who hasn't witnessed incidents like this might fall prey to certain lies. But honestly, anyone who is naive enough to believe zoloft's 'muh paganism and yhvh is the same doe.' is really not mentally there in the first place. People here should know vibrating any pagan god name empowers a chakra, which alone makes this theory make no sense. This is objective, it is not dogma or ordering anyone what to think.

Do advanced users like Lydia, NakedPluto, johnson_akemi and the like do this? No. They read the site from back to front, for a start. Most of the forums didn't get involved with this type of nonsense prior to the group migration either.

HPS Pythia has said before in the Teachings of Thoth and other places that friendships and socializing IRL are a must for Satanists. This is a lifestyle of doing and being. Walling yourself up talking to randoms is not 'living' and I can tell this is the primary way long-term users get isolated and stuck.

When two people get together it has been observed by science they can do something twice as well... or twice as worse.
 
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Karnonnos said:
The problem here is that you talk to these people but in reality they're not going anywhere. If they're sitting around talking to you all day, they're not really advancing are they? The JoS is not a little social club. So of course they're full of negativity because they are not doing what they claim they are doing or may be doing worse.

Now you disagree with them, not because what they say is intellectually bankrupt or incredibly dangerous, but because they are mean to you and act like high schoolers. After the nth time this has happened since the groups migrated to the forums, this scenario doesn't need all these occult explanations and excuses when you can just use your reasoning abilities.

There is literally proof of what I am saying. Azorm's posts were full of weird depression stories, her talking about joining some quasi-JoS ripoff in her own country led by abusive people, complaining about going insane, everyone else being wrong but her and endless guilt all the time over nothing. The peak of this was when she claimed to have an ascended kundalini, then in the next sentence claimed she was pushing massive blobs of gray energy (!!!) into her aura every day and told someone else to do so! SO DESPITE BEING A MEMBER OF THE JOS FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS, DID SHE EVEN READ ANYTHING ON THE SITE?! When corrected she then went on this massive rampage of guilt tripping everyone for weeks.

Whatever she is, these things alone are not a good combination with Satanism. Of course she will blame what she did (INVOKING DEATH ENERGY ONTO HERSELF EVERY DAY) on the Ritual.

Shael after a point spent most of his time baiting SWG and Jack as part of some weird vendetta about politics and sexuality, which I personally felt was strange. It was especially off when Shael told everyone to 'take Azorm's advice' in invoking grey energy, then insulted Jack for saying this was dangerous.

HP Zevios Metathronos as usual had to correct every extremely dangerous thing said here, meanwhile the other person we shall not name of course was nowhere to be seen, very helpful. People could have literally died following this 'advice' but HP Zevios Metathronos had to mop up all the crap. The same applies to amazing nuggets I've seen such as 'invoke Fire into your Sacral Chakra' (deadly), another product of telegram tattle tales and a personality cult, which is AGAIN against what is written on the site. And also recently 'sv3rige told me to look directly into the Sun so legally blind' ignoring what the site says about bright lights. How is any of this blameable on the JoS?

Anyone who hasn't witnessed incidents like this might fall prey to certain lies. But honestly, anyone who is naive enough to believe zoloft's 'muh paganism and yhvh is the same doe.' is really not mentally there in the first place. People here should know vibrating any pagan god name empowers a chakra, which alone makes this theory make no sense. This is objective, it is not dogma or ordering anyone what to think.

Do advanced users like Lydia, NakedPluto, johnson_akemi and the like do this? No. They read the site from back to front, for a start. Most of the forums didn't get involved with this type of nonsense prior to the group migration either.

HPS Pythia has said before in the Teachings of Thoth and other places that friendships and socializing IRL are a must for Satanists. This is a lifestyle of doing and being. Walling yourself up talking to randoms is not 'living' and I can tell this is the primary way long-term users get isolated and stuck.

When two people get together it has been observed by science they can do something twice as well... or twice as worse.
Good advice. Also thank you for that link. It seems she is pretty fucked up.
 
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Karnonnos said:

I honestly never read her posts here that much. But yeah I see it looking over that ugg. If anything she said about past lives or her own life is true she has some major problems she doesnt seem to want to work on at all so not worth it. Her aura is like a dark cloud.
 

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