Christian views on sexuality

[xlnt]

I once listened to a crazy christian pastor who was talking about relations between men and women, gender differences and marrige. He clearly stated that a woman who has sex with a man before marrige is a "nitwit of extraordinary proportions" and it's like she is "paying the architect before the house has been built".

This sounds very strange to me since he assumes women never want sex from men and also that sex is the only thing men want from a woman. How about for example men who have visited prostitutes and later on fallen in love with these? I wonder how he would explain that. This also makes me think of a quote from Jesus saying "A man who looks at a woman with desire has already commited adultery with her in his heart". What about women looking at men with desire?

It seems to me that christianity assumes women never want sex from men, and that it's always the other way around (similarity to feminism?) I also wonder how this has effected people in how they view themselves. It seems that similarly to islam, womens sexual desire is somehow even more sinful. That it somehow is a force that they want to put a lid on very strongly.
It's also a bit interesting to me that christianity views sex outside of marrige as sinful/dirty and that pornography also is making sex into something dirty. Same people behind both things.

 

[Henu the Great]

For example NOT all women can orgasm but the ones that can split further unto two levels ones that take a long time for good or bad and ones whom act almost penile like within 2-3 minutes. Men on the other hand once their done that is it. They somehow need to learn the tantric aspect of basically non-stop orgasming and not cumming completely i.e. ejaculation until a later period of time.

Untrue, but it is true that ejaculating saps energy.

How much one can expend varies a lot.

 

[darkmonkey666]

For example NOT all women can orgasm but the ones that can split further unto two levels ones that take a long time for good or bad and ones whom act almost penile like within 2-3 minutes. Men on the other hand once their done that is it. They somehow need to learn the tantric aspect of basically non-stop orgasming and not cumming completely i.e. ejaculation until a later period of time.

Untrue, but it is true that ejaculating saps energy.

How much one can expend varies a lot.

I know this can be done but I have never seen the method elaborated anywhere. Anyone have it.

 

[Henu the Great]

For example NOT all women can orgasm but the ones that can split further unto two levels ones that take a long time for good or bad and ones whom act almost penile like within 2-3 minutes. Men on the other hand once their done that is it. They somehow need to learn the tantric aspect of basically non-stop orgasming and not cumming completely i.e. ejaculation until a later period of time.

Untrue, but it is true that ejaculating saps energy.

How much one can expend varies a lot.

I know this can be done but I have never seen the method elaborated anywhere. Anyone have it.

This is one article I read about it in past: https://www.nateliason.com/blog/multiple-orgasms-men

 

[Gearshift]

Untrue, but it is true that ejaculating saps energy.

How much one can expend varies a lot.

I know this can be done but I have never seen the method elaborated anywhere. Anyone have it.

This is one article I read about it in past: https://www.nateliason.com/blog/multiple-orgasms-men

Some of this stuff has been on the internet since nearing the 2000s. I mean sure it's modern and expanded but some websites were discussing these that far back kinda like kegel or jelqing exercises.

Just noticed this. What exactly are you asking me ?

Nothing just usually you like these kinds of conversations. Was just making a reference that you might post something didn't intend to be negative.

 

[Henu the Great]

I read this out of curiosity, and now I'm wondering what exactly the point is.
Is it not normal for people to feel each other's orgasms, since connections are made during sex? Or are most people not open enough to feel what their partner is feeling or something? If so, I think that's something that could be worked on spiritually.

Rather than having the guy disable a natural physiological mechanism (ejaculation) just for the sake of generating more pleasure on his own, why not just leave that to the woman and share the pleasure during sex with telepathy or a connection between the chakras? Sex feels great, but at some point it can get exhausting if it's dragged out too long, so I always thought of the male orgasm as a splendid climax to mark the end of the act. Why change or damage something so wonderful just to drag things out more?
I think sex is the best when both sides come together, figuratively speaking. There's no need to make one like the other when all of this can be felt through each other anyway, as unlike the writer of that article, we Zevism are not oblivious to spirituality and tantric sexuality.

If it's meant for masturbation, then should one really take masturbation so far instead of spending one's time more productively?

To prolong orgasm, to not feel depleted, yet still feel good?

Surely sexuality can be different things for different people. I am pretty sure the writer of the article did not consider spiritual concepts.

 

[Jack]

I know this can be done but I have never seen the method elaborated anywhere. Anyone have it.

This is one article I read about it in past: https://www.nateliason.com/blog/multiple-orgasms-men

Some of this stuff has been on the internet since nearing the 2000s. I mean sure it's modern and expanded but some websites were discussing these that far back kinda like kegel or jelqing exercises.

Just noticed this. What exactly are you asking me ?

Nothing just usually you like these kinds of conversations. Was just making a reference that you might post something didn't intend to be negative.

I don't understand in what context it is you're asking my input.

 

[Henu the Great]

I'm sure a depletion is only a symptom of one's partner not giving anything back, although I'll refrain from going into detail about what exactly I mean since it would be highly inappropriate, albeit amusing. I suppose if you have sex with someone who isn't spiritually advanced or you fail to guide the energy when masturbating then it makes sense since that would be draining (for that, I recommend this: https://www.templeofzeus.org/Ascending_Energy.html). But in a healthy relationship between two Zevism who are advanced enough to share orgasms and energise each other, this approach just makes no sense to me.

It's very obvious that the writer of the article did not consider spiritual concepts, and that's why I question that approach.
Not to mention, blocking ejaculation by contracting muscles seems like it might cause damage, but maybe that's just my superstition.

You're certainly right that sexuality can be different things for different people. It's just that all the "benefits" of this technique look to me like quick fixes for symptoms of other underlying spiritual issues; even just having clean chakras will make orgasms feel much deeper. To me it makes more sense to fix those issues than to use this kind of workaround, but I suppose sometimes a quick fix is all people want, and it's not like the circumstances can always be ideal anyway, not to mention others might have a different idea of what's ideal. But to be honest, this physical approach seems very unnatural to me; like, at that point, why not just have tantric sex?

Look, I know about your points and I agree. I simply linked this to slyscorpion because he asked about it and I happened to have a link in my history since I read about it because it was new thing for me at one point.

 

[Henu the Great]

Starting your sentence with "look" makes me worry if I bothered you. If that's the case, then I'm sorry; that wasn't my intention at all.

There was nothing wrong with you sharing that article, and I think it's perfectly fine for people to experiment sexually if they wish to. It's just that reading the article raised some questions for me and I wanted some feedback on the conclusions I reached.

I'm sorry if being a bit aggressive with my opinions made you uncomfortable. I was just curious if I was thinking about it right.

Okay, it's cool. I think that going into the end of spiritual square of Mercury which is also my chart ruler has something to do with this. I'm also doing another material square at the same time. Third, I begun a Moon working just this Monday... And this schedule of ours... Fortunately I have over 40% of earth on my chart so I can at least on some level keep it together.

Your points are on point.