Can the soul escape a black hole?

[foopibransfield]

What do YOU think?

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

The thing is, the soul is a higher dimensional existence. It doesn't reside on the physical, therefor it doesn't interact with a black hole.

So yes, a soul would easily escape a third dimensional black hole as it cannot get trapped in a third dimensional structure since a soul is a higher dimensional existence.

Black holes however, like everything else on the third dimension have an astral counter part, I do not know what those are or how they work, but with what we know of the physical characteristics of black holes I think it is safe to assume a soul cannot escape or even come near the astral or higher dimensional counter part of a black hole since it's characteristics should be simmilar to a degree and massively scaled up as everything on the higher dimensions manifests in much greater magnitudes.

Perhaps a more powerful astral being, or a being on the level of the Gods can escape it or get near it, but for a human soul I think it's impossible to get close to such an astral black hole counterpart.

A black hole is not a black sun however, as The black sun is an astral counterpart to the sun, it's not a three dimensional thing.

 

[David Bo]

Common Sense:

Even though what we know of black holes are theoretical... it still stands that Black Holes are much bigger than what any human, even at their "most spiritual" can conjure up.  Does anyone here think they actually could ever have the ability to move as much energy as the Sun in our Solar System?  If not, then what makes them think they would have the power to counter-act a black hole?
Even when it comes to higher dimensions and spirituallity and magick we do not know everything.  So you have to use a little common sense here.  If you are still performing Magnum Opus's to ascend, still getting "new information from Satan," and other such things, could you really say you are competent enough to verify and say something like "I can go to a higher dimension and escape a black hole" without actually having verified it?
There is alot of QUACKERY in the spiritual and magickal fields, so I would take alot of it with a Big Grain of Salt.  So lets revisit the basics here:

1. Theoretical Blackhole Construct vs Smaller human construct.
2. If you go by the theoretical construct and empower it with alot of energy vs the human with little energy the Theoretical Construct wins.
3.  This goes to show that basically the person (in the real world) who has the most powerful aura always wins.  Thats pretty much a given.

So can a soul escape a black hole?  No one really knows, because no one has even gotten close enough to a black hole.  Its all theoretical science.  But when it comes to doing magick in the Real World, having a more powerful aura brings up your success many fold.  Its a pretty solid principle that having bigger numbers or greater power will more likely make you more successful than if you have less.





  The thing is, the soul is a higher dimensional existence. It doesn't reside on the physical, therefor it doesn't interact with a black hole.

So yes, a soul would easily escape a third dimensional black hole as it cannot get trapped in a third dimensional structure since a soul is a higher dimensional existence.

Black holes however, like everything else on the third dimension have an astral counter part, I do not know what those are or how they work, but with what we know of the physical characteristics of black holes I think it is safe to assume a soul cannot escape or even come near the astral or higher dimensional counter part of a black hole since it's characteristics should be simmilar to a degree and massively scaled up as everything on the higher dimensions manifests in much greater magnitudes.

Perhaps a more powerful astral being, or a being on the level of the Gods can escape it or get near it, but for a human soul I think it's impossible to get close to such an astral black hole counterpart.

A black hole is not a black sun however, as The black sun is an astral counterpart to the sun, it's not a three dimensional thing.

 

[thenexus1_1991]

At the center of the *galaxy,* not the center of the solar system and not the center of the universe (Which has no center). Black holes are just stars that sweep up so much mass that they're heavy enough to draw in light.

 

[livingforsatan]

@ thenexus They just don't put off light visible with our rods and cones.

 

[livingforsatan]

To all, anyone, anywhere and everywhere, the astral is physical, the physical is astral.

The micro is macro, the macro, micro.

Or, as it has been said so eloquently and elegantly, already, "As below, so above."

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

Don't mistake that statement for what it really means. The Astral and Physical are separated, but connected at the same time.

They are not one and the same, they are different, one a higher dimension, the other a lower. They are different, however the astral affects the physical and to a minor extend the physical affects the astral. Changes made on the astral manifest on the physical after some time, changes made on the physical can to a minor extend affect the astral.

Micro and Macro applies in many different ways, it's not like the astral is the macro or the micro, both the astral and physical are part of the Macro and Micro as the Macro and Micro manifest on different levels.

The astral is simply a higher dimension from the physical, connected both ways, but the astral being the higher dimension has a greater influence of the physical, but changes to the astral need to be made through the physical as you require physical means to alter the astral.

 

[livingforsatan]

@ voiceofenki, No disrespect intended, so I won't BUT they are not separate. The astral ( the ether) is as much a component of the physical as vice versa.

That's not very helpful to most right now, though.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

I am unsure why your post didn't show up on the forums here @Livingforsatan, but I'll answer regardless as I can see it in my inbox. 

The reason black absorbs more heat from light is because it converts all light from the spectrum into heat, where as a red shirt for example only absorbs certain wavelengths and reflects others.

As the light is absorbed the energy within the photon is injected into the atoms of the shirt, which in turn vibrate faster as they take in the energy of the wavelengths of light, the material heats up as a result, so the light is converted into heat.

The material doesn't change the way the light is absorbed, it just changes how well it retains heat, for example metal is much better at retaining heat. A black car in the sun can get extremely hot as the metal surface absorbs and retains a lot of heat due to the density and conductivity of the material.

Where as a fabric such a cotton doesn't retain heat very well, it cools down quickly because the atoms vibrate slower and are less dense, the energy that flows into them passes out of them much more easily.

The color still affects how much heat can be absorbed from the light shone unto it. A white material reflects all wave lengths of light, so it heats up much slower from light alone, where ass a black shirt absorbs all wavelengths of light and thus heats up much faster.

 

[livingforsatan]

@ voiceofenki I deleted my response because it was pointed out to me to not engage in an argument which will not be helpful to newcomers.

Time is short enough, as it is.

I still stand by the "I love you, man," part, though. Haha.

Hail Satan!

 

[Shael1]

To my knowledge, black holes are a sort of travelling device. When one knows how to use them, it's possible to travel gigantic distances in the universe pretty much instantly. Naturally, it would not be recommended for a non-immortal being to attempt such a thing, though. I remember having read this on the JoS/affiliated websites a while ago. As always, if you are interested, I can try to find the source. 

-Shael

Thou shalt gather with your left, and bind with your right.
After sacrifice for power, with power thou shalt fight.

Hail Father Satan!

They are not one and the same, they are different, one a higher dimension, the other a lower. They are different, however the astral affects the physical and to a minor extend the physical affects the astral. Changes made on the astral manifest on the physical after some time, changes made on the physical can to a minor extend affect the astral.

Micro and Macro applies in many different ways, it's not like the astral is the macro or the micro, both the astral and physical are part of the Macro and Micro as the Macro and Micro manifest on different levels.

The astral is simply a higher dimension from the physical, connected both ways, but the astral being the higher dimension has a greater influence of the physical, but changes to the astral need to be made through the physical as you require physical means to alter the astral. [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

[Taol]

Remember how it was written that there was a planet with a lot of water in our solar system but the enemy destroyed it?

What if that so called black hole is the remains of that?

(or maybe I misunderstood something but that aside the point)

 

[empty_dreamer]

yes but only the strongest of us.

 

[kinghenrythefowler]

I suspect there is a very bizarre, close to mystical explanation for these that Einstein could never give to us if they were indeed real.

 

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Before reading this thread - what is a Black Hole? Is it:

- a 'hole in space' , which is an infinitely-small point of extreme gravity, where everything is squashed beyond belief;
- a 'hole in space' which leads to a White Hole elsewhere (which I don't think have been found or contrived yet, similar to - or exactly as - a wormhole);
- what my theory is, that since stars are created out of nebulae, which are formed from exploded stars, then each time that happens, heavier and heavier elements are created (into existence) or formed (which exist already); thus, after it happening repeatedly, such heaviness, coupled with the natural gravity, makes things unable to escape that, as all a Black Hole is is a ball of super-extremely-heavy elements; or
- something else?

 

[jxk2080]

This is an old thread, but look at what a quick google can produce.  
http://www.jinfo.org/Physics.html

This is annoying me now.
Heinrich Hertz was apparently* a jew as well.
So its sometimes hard to even believe the accuracy of wave mechanics itself.
That poses an obvious problem, with about everything coming after it.
Thoughts on this?

 

[kinghenrythefowler]

I was off for a while, is any one still on this topic lol. I'm going to have to read everything that was read again so Ill post back in a few hours