Other Can someone point me to some articles of evidence that the beliefs here are true?

Greetings and thank you for showing interest and being inquisitive. This is exactly the aim of the person who wants to know the Truth. Exactly the thought process you express, is what led all of us to Zevism and the Gods. So know, here doubt and research oriented concern, is very normal. You'll not be judged for this adversely, but rewarded in fact. Religion is about searching and the journey of the mind and the soul.

Please study everything in our website, first and foremost. Refer to sources; do major checking on everything. Above all, judge on the emotional consistency these have with you and if it's coupled with your reason.

The historical, spiritual and scholarly, plus knowledge based information, is all in the Temple of Zeus website. After your research, you will understand where you stand, and if you decide to join us, you are more than welcome in your journey and transition to the path of the Godhead.

Feel free of course to ask anything that is of concern in the Forums. There are many wonderful people here, who know Zevism for it's truthfulness, integrity and have practiced it both with direct experience for many years, but are also well studied in everything. There are people who have also 10 or more years of experience, but also many rising stars who albeit early on their journey, are excellent people.

Wish you the best in your journey in learning. As I believe you'll find out soon, this is one of the most major things you will study in your whole life.

Also, if my question is perhaps asked through the wrong/unfavorable scope, let me know! I am sure there is a reason I am finding it a bit difficult to find "evidence" of the sort.

What made me doubt Christianity in the first place was the whole idea of "Faith" and how it changes you. Yeah, duh, of course enough faith in literally anything will bear fruit of some sort. (So I do ask that you keep this in mind before telling me that I need to "believe" before going in. Not rejecting does not equate to "believing x is true" in my mind)

Now, in regard to my question. I'd like a quick point in the right direction when it comes to historical evidence, philosophical ideas (Food for thought), etc.

If you would like to say such evidence here rather than point, I am all for it. I do, however like to read and get my own understanding before discussing with others deeply.

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While I can not offer any greater insight than our Literal High Priest, the best advice I could ever offer is to try out meditations for yourself. If Zevism is all false than simply cutting your finger in a safe and healthy way is nothing more than that, it will heal and nothing can be lost. It is of course a Sacred Rite, and holds deep meaning, but it is also the start of your personal covenant and commitment to Baal-Berith, An Aspect Of Holy Lord Zeus that deals with the Covenant betwixt God and Man, as well.

When it comes to the Metaphysical layer of reality we have quite a bit of proof in our modern times that shows Manifestation yields great results within a persons own life. One need only look and find that their mind controls a great deal of reality.

I say this before hand because the Dedication Ritual https://templeofzeus.org/Dedicate.php is a way to protect ourselves by going into the Light of Lord Zeus, and this will allow one to safely practice the meditations, energy workings, rituals, and more: with far less harassment from spiritual entities than otherwise.

In addition there is also the simple aspect of going into your mind and breaking any previous Oath that slanderous Yebuboric systems have instilled. I'm sure that last word confuses you and so I will offer, what I believe, to be a Holy doctrine of Outreach. https://templeofzeus.org/LiturgicalTerms.php This was created and spearheaded by our High Priest, Whom has already responded to you. I would follow them and read their works.

There is also the Ethical backbone of the Temple which is https://templeofzeus.org/EthicsOftheGods.php . No one of any Moral character or Ethical fiber could read any of this and deny it's weight is that of Gold. Even to someone deeply faithful to programs like Christanity, Judisim, or Islam with an open heart will end up agreeing. They are also very transformative in how you view reality and life itself and that is why even if you are faithless and want to have it proven, simply performing the Exercises of the Path will enable one to find the Gods themselves: in their own time, in their own way.

Using a combination of research, Logos, Ethical framing, and delving into human history itself: the Clergy has done a wonderous thing.

The cavate to everything being here is that we are all at different stages of development and thus many, such as myself, may said a great many foolish things. The Ethic of the present is to be granted to all who walk our Hollowed halls, and just as you ask for grace, it is asked that you give it back in kind. ( In the past I've said some utterly dumb things with utter confidence as many do. :ROFLMAO::LOL: Also I ask you forgive my name, we are Zevist, but I've yet to find a proper name for myself. )

I wish you well in your exploration of yourself, and I recommend you sign up for https://vultustemplorum.org as it is the adjacent place next to the Forums within The Temple of Zeus. There you can interact and ask questions as well as bonding with others. It is also great if your like myself and weren't raised with good socialization. You can see how people interact, study, and learn, from those whom you can respect. It has personally helped me learn how to read a room, and has already taught me more of the social aspects of humanity than my own parents did.

What made me doubt Christianity in the first place was the whole idea of "Faith" and how it changes you. Yeah, duh, of course enough faith in literally anything will bear fruit of some sort. (So I do ask that you keep this in mind before telling me that I need to "believe" before going in. Not rejecting does not equate to "believing x is true" in my mind)

Now, in regard to my question. I'd like a quick point in the right direction when it comes to historical evidence, philosophical ideas (Food for thought), etc.

If you would like to say such evidence here rather than point, I am all for it. I do, however like to read and get my own understanding before discussing with others deeply.

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Hello, glad to see you here. I will give you a bit of a longer reply, read it as you have time.

I could, I suppose, run you through a flowchart of philosophically proving "Does God exist" -> "Does God have multiplicity" -> "Do the Gods interact with humanity" -> "Can the mortal soul become divine" -> "How does one do that" etc. etc., and "intellectually prove" Zevism to you.

There's a real path to do that from a completely mental standpoint, through the Neoplatonist philosophers, through experiential testimonies from Eastern meditators, through historical common threads from various cultures, all confirming the Zevist viewpoint and system.

However, I don't think that's the best way to go about this.

Whenever showing Zevism to others, I always take great pride in the fact that we are a path of experience and practice.

You should, of course, study the sites, as well as whatever else you are guided to study by the Divine. (pray to the Gods, respectfully asking them to point you in the right direction, even if you are skeptical about their existence)

But what is significantly more important is to actually do the practices. Within libraryofthoth.org, you'll find the 40 Day Meditation program, and that is very important to follow. In 80% of cases, it will bring about certain experiences that will, at the very least, make you realize that there definitely is something to this path, enough to pursue it further.

I would also recommend looking through the Meditation section of the ToZ main site, as there are things you should get into that are not necessarily emphasized in the 40 Day Program, such as Trance.
The practical path towards discovering Zevism starts at understanding the human soul, which starts with understanding the human mind. You will be able to learn how to operate the soul by exploring the mind, and the path of meditation will reveal to you various mental faculties and aspects (such as the unfolding of your mind within trance states) that will absolutely make you interested to delve further.

This is a highly mechanical process, it is not "have faith". It works through understanding and using certain mechanisms, and these work, they are not a matter of belief or placebo. As you advance in meditation and start grasping the idea of energy work, through Foundation Meditation, trance states and practice with visualization and directed focus in meditations like Aura Cleaning, you will find yourself experiencing more and more "paranormal" realities.

God Rituals, on tozrituals.org, are also important to be pointed towards, as Theurgy is an external process entirely. It is up to the Gods' decrees and (much wiser than ours) opinions, whether you will be blessed with certain experiences, blessings or guidance after a God Ritual, such as the Grand Ritual of Zeus. Spiritual development does help one operate with and within these Divine powers more consistently and more deeply, but "little miracles" do happen for those that have a real spirit of seeking the truth.

With all that being said, the TL;DR is to read the sites and meditate. The rest will unfold by itself, nobody here needs to "indoctrinate" you in any way.

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Hello, glad to see you here. I will give you a bit of a longer reply, read it as you have time.

I could, I suppose, run you through a flowchart of philosophically proving "Does God exist" -> "Does God have multiplicity" -> "Do the Gods interact with humanity" -> "Can the mortal soul become divine" -> "How does one do that" etc. etc., and "intellectually prove" Zevism to you.

There's a real path to do that from a completely mental standpoint, through the Neoplatonist philosophers, through experiential testimonies from Eastern meditators, through historical common threads from various cultures, all confirming the Zevist viewpoint and system.

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Excellent and solid advice Dear Brother. You do The Temple, and The Gods, proud. 🙏

Hello, glad to see you here. I will give you a bit of a longer reply, read it as you have time.

I could, I suppose, run you through a flowchart of philosophically proving "Does God exist" -> "Does God have multiplicity" -> "Do the Gods interact with humanity" -> "Can the mortal soul become divine" -> "How does one do that" etc. etc., and "intellectually prove" Zevism to you.

There's a real path to do that from a completely mental standpoint, through the Neoplatonist philosophers, through experiential testimonies from Eastern meditators, through historical common threads from various cultures, all confirming the Zevist viewpoint and system.

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I have experience going into trance states and I am inclined to believe the topic of souls and purpose means much more to me than >80% of my peers. With that being said, I will likely run into the same "feelings, convictions" that many naturally tuned in spiritualists will find in perhaps the abrahamic religions due to conviction of truth alone. Such as muslims dream and "see" their prophet and Christians see "angels."

I will listen to your advice since I can't ignore the fact that playing mental gymnastics has only gotten me so far when it comes to enlightenment, if you even want to call it that.

And as honest as I can be, perhaps I actively put too much emphasis on the "who" I wish to follow- Specific Gods/God/Etc- rather than the actual progression of mind and spirit said teachings actually provide.

I can ramble on and on simply because I love conversation, but that will be all for this moment.

What made me doubt Christianity in the first place was the whole idea of "Faith" and how it changes you. Yeah, duh, of course enough faith in literally anything will bear fruit of some sort. (So I do ask that you keep this in mind before telling me that I need to "believe" before going in. Not rejecting does not equate to "believing x is true" in my mind)

Now, in regard to my question. I'd like a quick point in the right direction when it comes to historical evidence, philosophical ideas (Food for thought), etc.

If you would like to say such evidence here rather than point, I am all for it. I do, however like to read and get my own understanding before discussing with others deeply.

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Welcome! 👋
Templeofzeus.org has helpful sections for "beginners" and "new" i recommend starting here, as they touch on a lot of the commonly asked topics new comers and inquiring minds, like yourself, have asked countless times before. You will find it well organized and thorough.

The community is wonderful, global, knowledgeable, experienced, diverse, and supportive. I have no doubt you will find what your soul searches for, and a whole lot more. 😊

And as honest as I can be, perhaps I actively put too much emphasis on the "who" I wish to follow- Specific Gods/God/Etc- rather than the actual progression of mind and spirit said teachings actually provide.

Same, i pay more attention to the Gods than to progress, even though, working on the soul is important since the Gods are part of it. If the soul is more developed, then one's understanding of the Gods nature will be more deeper. Of couse that someone might give u the truth about the Gods, but it's gonna be just information, like, just usual avarage fact. But with a more developed soul, the same information will be experienced on a deeper level, as if it were some kind of catharsis

The Temple of Zeus is vast with knowledge that can help improve the body, mind and soul.

The Sa Ta Na Ma meditation:

In the link you can read how the Sa Ta Na Ma meditation improved memory function and cognitive performance.

Surya Namaskars:

This study shows how Sun Salutes keep the body in an optimal level of fitness. They also pair well with swinging movements with clubs or maces to balance the body.

Breath of Fire:

You can almost click on any meditation here and find a scientific article showing benefits.

Meditations and everything written in the Temple of Zeus, is not "faith based".

1. Sources = There. Academic, known, literal.
2. Meditation = Direct application of your mind powers. You do not need to believe to indulge and do these. Even hard non-believers, can have effects, without believing.
3. Validity of Zevist philosophy in life is practical; if you apply this religion even only on intellectual and philosophical grounds, you gain directly, without you needing to believe.

You literally need minimal faith and almost none to practice Zevism when you embark it. It doesn't say "believe first and see later", it says "see first and decide later if you will believe based on what you saw: Because you will see".

Many people come totally in doubt as the whole "God" and related, has already betrayed them in Christianity, Islam, or other faiths. They didn't see nothing there, normally so.

Here, your faith is NOT a pre-requisite. Only application is. Belief and conviction arise later, as the above are done. There's also not a hell awaiting for you if you do not believe either. There's only the practical downside of not applying the system; which costs in ways one understands clearly as they proceed.

All of us here just say all our lives, what if we started a year before, or five years before.

The fact that some people have ultimate convinction is because of actually having applied and seen; not because they "believed". Doubt and trail, preceded "faith".

You can have the most skeptical attitude and still see. After a point it goes away because you understand and KNOW, not because you banished lack of knowledge because of enforcing to yourself to "Believe".

Well said HP, as always! I agree whole heartedly! I relate to what was said because just from beginner level applications I have seen proof, over and over again.

I would like to add that each person's journey in this is personal and unique; so while we all get the same instructions, if can be experienced and felt in different ways and degrees, person to person.

Meditation has been a turning point for me personally, resulting in changes and progress mentally, physically and spiritually. My entire existence leveled up, finally!

I am truly excited for walking alongside this Temple community for years to come. Zevism empowers the Zevist, which creates real results, and benefits humanity as a whole....you will see for yourself. 🫶

Ask questions! Be skeptical, and absolutly come to know why you stay!