Can astral projections change the past?

[星光元素]

Can astral projections change the past?

 

[Dragonheart666]

That's a good question?

 

[Sonne [NG]]

The past can only be viewed, not changed.

 

[星光元素]

The past can only be viewed, not changed.

Can astral projection change past thoughts?

 

[Stormblood]

Can astral projections change the past?

If we could do that, don't you think we'd live in a much different world right now, a Golden Age?

 

[Skyveryflat]

maybe yes maybe no in u're case maybe u must understanding law of space and time and predict yeah maybe this like crazy idea but this can be do it i think u must ask with Goddess Astarte about this with u're problem for u're solutions.

 

[Amar.Utu.k]

In fact, there is an opportunity to change the past.

You really have to be an experienced person as far as the possession of the soul and mind is concerned. Here you need an in-depth projection, not only of the astral body, but also of the causal body, what is given by nature and is called individual karma, how a being is connected with the harmony of the surrounding world.

It should be clarified that time and space are not fixed, they are set differently for each being and this has a very powerful effect on being and perception. Among other things, each sphere of being has its own internal patterns, different from the physical, but living in harmony with the rest. Intertwined.

Time flows from three states (past, present, future) into a unified and holistic state, creating the illusion of movement, in fact this is the trap of Chronos and it is under control for those who have understood the essence of the seventh chakra.

I will not burden you with thoughts, it is useless to explain it, it must come by experience.

What from practice, you should understand that by changing the present, you change the past and the future, you can change your past and the future of the surrounding world, if you have enough power it is realised by correcting the current state of fate. It is realised on different levels, it depends very much on the power of the soul, usually people deal only with their own mental problems, but it is possible to reach other spheres, up to matter.

You have to understand how to use the above-mentioned, or devote yourself to meditation more.

 

[Henu the Great]

Can astral projection change past thoughts?

The past can not be altered.

 

[星光元素]

Kozyrev Mirrors Experiments have shown that astral projections can leave traces in the past.

 

[Stormblood]

Kozyrev Mirrors Experiments have shown that astral projections can leave traces in the past.

How exactly do you prove that you left a trace in the past? It's not like you can travel back to the past and use it as reference to meet an astral body from the future. Time moves like an arrow, only forward.

 

[Ælberiigor]

Can astral projections change the past?

The past no longer exists, only the memory of witnesses or current state of objects attest to its existence.
If you break something, you must repair it or buy another. You cannot cancel the fact you breaked it by astral projection in the past or else.

You can only influence the future with the causes you create right now.

About "memory of witnesses" cited above, memories are like psychic "objects" maintain is the aura of people. A series of causes being the source of their creation.
To destroy what people think, you must erase that from their aura like an hypnotizer does.
if you are able to astral project yourself you can talk to people in their dreams to reprogram them.

Like breaked objects, you can only repair if you know how to do.
And to know how to repair properly, it seems to me you must be able to be perfect and never break anything, thanks to your wisdom and experience.

In fact, there is an opportunity to change the past.

You really have to be an experienced person as far as the possession of the soul and mind is concerned. Here you need an in-depth projection, not only of the astral body, but also of the causal body, what is given by nature and is called individual karma, how a being is connected with the harmony of the surrounding world.
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Your answer is correct but complicated. I think you refer to our karma and personal astrologic positionning without mentioning it.
Yes, we are in the "chronos" trap because not sufficiently mature and grounded to psychologically escape from it or understand it.

From another point of view, the "time" dimension is what the physical world is all about and we must learn to use it properly.
Other planes are other "time" or "frequencies".
It's through the time dimension that energy is organized to create things, so time is more the space-time structuring rule than a trap.

 

[स त न म]

The past no longer exists, only the memory of witnesses or current state of objects attest to its existence.

This is not necessarily true. The stars that we see above us, are several light years away. One light year being the distance travelled at the speed of light in one year on earth. So essentially we are seeing stars from the past, all the night sky we see above us is the past, some thousands or even millions of years in the past. Some of the stars may have collapsed in the meantime and no longer even exist. So we are essentially seeing thousands of years in the past when we look at the stars in the night sky, some of those those may not even exist now and yet we are looking at them twinkling, straight up seeing the past without any astral senses, right with our physical eyes.

But in your sense, argument can be made that the light emitted from them is the "witness" carrying the information from the past (memory) while in actuality the stars could have long collapsed. Just wanted to point out this strangeness that we can ponder upon every time we look up at the sky.

 

[स त न म]

This is not necessarily true. The stars that we see above us, are several light years away. One light year being the distance travelled at the speed of light in one year on earth. So essentially we are seeing stars from the past, all the night sky we see above us is the past, some thousands or even millions of years in the past. Some of the stars may have collapsed in the meantime and no longer even exist. So we are essentially seeing thousands of years in the past when we look at the stars in the night sky, some of those those may not even exist now and yet we are looking at them twinkling, straight up seeing the past without any astral senses, right with our physical eyes.

But in your sense, argument can be made that the light emitted from them is the "witness" carrying the information from the past (memory) while in actuality the stars could have long collapsed. Just wanted to point out this strangeness that we can ponder upon every time we look up at the sky.

To add to this, the light itself has no conception of time, meaning for the light itself that is carrying the information has not experienced any time while thousands of years have passed on earth, for the light itself, it's all in the present. At the speed of light there is no experience of time, time elapsed for the light is zero.

 

[Amar.Utu.k]

Ваш ответ правильный, но сложный. Я думаю, вы имеете в виду нашу карму и личное астрологическое положение, не упоминая об этом.
Да, мы попали в ловушку «хроноса», потому что недостаточно зрелы и обоснованы, чтобы психологически вырваться из нее или понять ее.

С другой точки зрения, измерение «времени» — это то, что представляет собой физический мир, и мы должны научиться правильно его использовать.
Другие планы — это другое «время» или «частоты».
Именно через временное измерение энергия организуется для создания вещей, поэтому время — это скорее правило структурирования пространства-времени, чем ловушка.

I'm going to have to go off topic of the post to explain my response. It may be defiant and unpleasant to realise always. And likely to seem unhelpful, it is so true without practice.

This is not a different point of view, the view that the physical world is bounded by some kind of time and space is conditioned by concepts only hypothetical, conditional consistent models that are primitive compared to reality.

You can cite human achievements in technology fields due to mathematics built on conditional models, but can you speak of this as liberation? Or is it enslavement nonetheless? Yes, the delusion that progress is being made, the spinning wheel that the senses are so caught up in, is actually a distraction from reality.

Did the ancients need the internet to achieve realisation, no of course not.

Comfort is a good thing, not to swear at technology, but at the compression of the mind. Humans move according to the will of nature, reproducing, advancing step by step is normal, but not evolution.

Do you know why this happens? Because when a person is born he is burdened by Chronos, birth is conditioned by death, the brain as a binary computer believes in the omnipotence of the concepts laid down by Chronos.

Then you realize the existence of the soul through meditation and righteous living, where there are other laws than physical laws, you can see thousands of miles away, touch the sun and many other things for example. You will not say that it is a fake, but Chronos will surely pester you that it is unreal or that there are some laws. Chronos must exist, otherwise the world will collapse in a moment. Nevertheless, it is your natural enemy, the first one you meet. His task is to bind everything, that's why Chronos is so honored by Yehuborim as a god.

Yes, Chronos is not the only force in our macrocosm, that's why the world is so beautiful, that's why virtue exists and allows exaltation.

For example.

Have you seen the symbol of Ouroboros? Or, say, a Gnostic demiurge? Yes, we are talking about Shakti. When the Ouroboros unhooks and ascends as Shakti by the grace of Satan, man reaches samadhi, where he realizes that he has been deceived and limited, that there is Truth, true evolution, absolute, infinite, eternal.

You know, there is also Ragnarok or Titanomachy, as an example, where Zeus and his brothers and sisters (representing the Shakti forces of his brothers), defeated Chronos, thus establishing dominion on Olympus.

Awareness does not make you special, you still have much to prove to the world before nature defines you as exalted.

Nevertheless, awareness expands you and gives you the right guidelines and reminds you to live according to Satya, not according to Chronos.

And so, you were born bound, unhappy, separated from Truth, but have you really come to terms with that? No, you are here to win and you will win if you are determined.

 

[Ælberiigor]

Nevertheless, awareness expands you and gives you the right guidelines and reminds you to live according to Satya, not according to Chronos.

I understand. These story of the Gods against Chronos can be interpret as allegories.
As standard human, you live under the rules of Chronos and its rules become boring for advance people.
Then, Satya present a higher aspect of the reality for the latter.

Chronos is trapping us in an intellectual vision of the physical world and Satya wait for those who are sufficiently mature to learn them the "mysteries" and all that is psychic and energetic in them.

Of course, the Yehuborim want we stay all at the chronos level but it's not his real role. I view Chronos like an old master who break the illusions of the naive though the deception to push them to develop wisdom, by themselves.
"By themselves" is important, else the life would be no more an evolution path but a stupid education cursus.

Learning psychic rule & power to unwise people could be a definition of the stupidity. As you said, the world would collapse very soon.

 

[Ælberiigor]

his is not necessarily true. The stars that we see above us, are several light years away.

That we see is the light emitted by cosmic object, not objects themselves. And when we see someone, we see the light they reflect by their presence, not the given someone.
And we could continue like this, when we touch someone, it's our brain who receives signals in correspondance with optic, auditive and olfactive signals and we evaluate to deal with someone.

Cosmic objects being far, the notion of speed of light is more apparent. If the star we see is already dead when we see it, can revive it ?
No. Eventually, if we are able to controlled the health of a star we must do it before its last breath, not after...

About the Photons
Let's admit a photon already live in the present - or outside our time - doesn't implied it doesn't manifest in another time, the astral time for example.
If we see a photon like an object, it's so little, light and fast that it lives inside the Plank constants, it skims our space time without ever fully entering in it, manifesting itself between physical and astral dimensions.
But in fact, a photon is an electromagnetic manifestation pulsating at a bandwidth our eyes can intercept. It's not really an object.

 

[Onbael_]

Can astral projections change the past?

I think that the past does not exist, nor does the future, they are more like useful concepts for managing things, like economy for example.

From my understanding, we are always and constantly in the present, and by analysing the present you understand the influence of the past and the potential of the future.

You can see the influence of what has been done, those actions have created a frequency, and you can change it by doing something different, by altering the frequency that already exists.

In that sense you can see the 'past' and alter it, but obviously not in the sense of time-travelling and meeting people from the 1800s or anything like that, that kind of thing is just movie fantasy.

 

[Voice of Enki [SG]]

Kozyrev Mirrors Experiments have shown that astral projections can leave traces in the past.

Reading a little bit about this mirrors experiment, I think I understand what really happens there, and it isn't anything very special or significant.

Basically, being surrounded by mirrors while the light is shone in the chamber from the top would create a very trippy experience for anyone inside, at the same time the perception would become unclear because of the photons bouncing around inside the circular mirror, you'd find yourself inside a kaleidoscope of light, blurring the perception and causing the brain to experience altered states of brain waves, similar to entering trance or tripping out on drugs, then basically this state induces hallucinations in people, or for those who may have psychic openess it can create the conditions to see certain things, but due to the trippy environment would not create anything reliable or sensible.

Basically, I'm almost certain just from reading the nature of this experiment, that is is nothing more than an induced light hallucination. This can be experienced very easily, for example, even people in a trippy night club with crazy light shows, without being under influence of drugs or alcohol can experience hallucinations or altered brain wave states which cause one to see certain things or fall into a trance like state that allows for strange perceptions to be generated by the brain and the mind, experiencing hallucinations, delusions, etc.

As for the things leaving traces in the past, this is nonsense. The present cannot alter the past, neither can the future in any direct sense, certainly not as it is experienced in situations like that. This experiment has nothing to do with manipulating time or anything at all, it is just a mechanism which induces trance like states and had confounded these researchers who became completely ungrounded after experiencing this trance like state which is unfathomable for most people.