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Belarus: The Terror greater than in North Korea...

Wow. just.. wow.

The sad thing about these monsters is that theyre armed to the teeth. Even if youre in a big group, itd not be safe to stand up against them in any way.

To bad that armor piercing thingies are not available to the public..
 
This is extremely serious. Thank you for sharing this and bringing it to our attention. No coverage anywhere, unless you specifically look for it. Absolutely insane.
 
My FRTRs are dedicated to this anti-government movement in Belarus.
Our brothers and sisters need us.

It's nice to read that despite all of this torture, one man still had the courage and bravery to laugh at the 'change' ringtone. But sadly this is no laughing matter. :cry:
 
Also I genuinely think this movement in Belarus is the start of a big worldwide change that will work in our favour
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Wow. just.. wow.

The sad thing about these monsters is that theyre armed to the teeth. Even if youre in a big group, itd not be safe to stand up against them in any way.

To bad that armor piercing thingies are not available to the public..

Armor piercing ammo is a myth, it doesnt exist in the way that you think it does.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Wow. just.. wow.

The sad thing about these monsters is that theyre armed to the teeth. Even if youre in a big group, itd not be safe to stand up against them in any way.

To bad that armor piercing thingies are not available to the public..
Some calibers are naturally good at penetrating armor just by going extremely fast. But they are not armor piercing bullets, they do not have the hardened steel armor piercing component inside them. Some like the 7.62 Tokarev which is used in a very common and inexpensive pistol in that part of the world, there were many thousands of them made and used in those communist countries. I think it was also used in the PPSH-41. And the 5.7x28, which is used in some pistols and most famous for being used in the P90 gun.
 
A few videos showing what actually happens in Belarus:

"Peaceful" protesters drive through the police cordon, purposefully running officers over - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvN9zWYNEgg

"Peaceful Protesters" throwing paving stones and molotov cocktails at police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4YbmhN6ok0

Totally not paid and organized by Soros and other yehuborim protesters peacefully protesting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC0OBjmYDrs

There are two things one should immediately notice. The mainstream media is showing you only the reaction of the police officers, but not what provoked this reaction. "Evil cops started beating peaceful protesters who didn du nuffin for absolutely no reason at all". And most importantly... The "peaceful protesters" are pretty well trained and organized... These are obviously not just random people protesting...

P.S

I believe that there were some isolated cases when the police used excessive force, not only on rioters, but by mistake, or something else, on actually peaceful protesters. But I cannot believe that the police massively just randomly beats up and tortures random people, without being provoked, to basically just satisfy the thirst for blood of the 'evil dictator' Lukashenko....

I am not idealizing Lukashenko, I am sure that he can be blamed for many things... But compared to other politicians, Lukashenko is currently the least Yehubor controlled politician in Europe.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Wow. just.. wow.

The sad thing about these monsters is that theyre armed to the teeth. Even if youre in a big group, itd not be safe to stand up against them in any way.

To bad that armor piercing thingies are not available to the public..

They have cars, with a car you can break through bulletproof glass. Probably one reason the first thing they tell is to get out of a car. No amount of body armor will help. Well some suicidal mindset is also needed considered you can only take out a few. The remaining ones won´t like this.

th
 
Anna said:
It turns out that Lukashenka is not a Yehubor? What about his friendship with Putin? Putin is 100% Yehuborim

There is no friendship, it's just political etiquette/protocol. Long story short, those who execute the order to take down Lukashenko, this time are not directly funded by George Soros, but by Russian Oligarchs. Sergei Tikhanovsky, who is considered a "pro-democracy activist" and his wife Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya that was the main rival to Lukashenko in the elections are directly funded by the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, who is, of course, ethnically Yehuborim. The other opposition presidential candidate, Viktar Babaryka is a Chairman of the Management Board of Belgazprombank, which is majority owned by Russia's state-run Gazprom natural gas company. I don't know what his roots are, but physically, he looks very much like a Yehubor. The Gazprom-Media, which is the largest Russian media holding, is also very liberal, and very anti-Lukashenko...
 
This is just shocking and insane, I had not read this completely and now it is up.

This is what is coming in every country in Europe if we do not stop the enemy. They are now collapsing, so things like this are to be expected.

In Belarus, they also strangulated much of the internet, and from what I read online, even cut the electricity of people? Could be fake news. Orban was blamed on many accounts also, especially because of their handling of Coronavirus. yehuborim went as far as to blame Sweden and other countries for not locking people in, unironically, calling them "Dictators" at the same time?

Insanity like this appear to be experimental, like now with the Coronavirus.

The "Coronavirus" was only an excuse for them to do things like that to people. Belarus didn't take the virus seriously but the power abuse remained the same against people. yehuborim did a lot during the Pandemic as both bluff and attack to wreck freedoms.
 
Interesting, also, the fact that he gives figure of the past some lip service, does not mean he is himself too good. Some people who think that figure of the past was some sort of evil guy that practiced oppression do the same as some form of "Yeah, I am with the evil guys too, Oh hell naw" type of thing.

All of this around the info appears to be largely motivated by Russia, they are probably trying to overthrow the president there.

DiscipleOfSatan said:
A few videos showing what actually happens in Belarus:

"Peaceful" protesters drive through the police cordon, purposefully running officers over - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvN9zWYNEgg

"Peaceful Protesters" throwing paving stones and molotov cocktails at police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4YbmhN6ok0

Totally not paid and organized by Soros and other yehuborim protesters peacefully protesting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC0OBjmYDrs

There are two things one should immediately notice. The mainstream media is showing you only the reaction of the police officers, but not what provoked this reaction. "Evil cops started beating peaceful protesters who didn du nuffin for absolutely no reason at all". And most importantly... The "peaceful protesters" are pretty well trained and organized... These are obviously not just random people protesting...

P.S

I believe that there were some isolated cases when the police used excessive force, not only on rioters, but by mistake, or something else, on actually peaceful protesters. But I cannot believe that the police massively just randomly beats up and tortures random people, without being provoked, to basically just satisfy the thirst for blood of the 'evil dictator' Lukashenko....

I am not idealizing Lukashenko, I am sure that he can be blamed for many things... But compared to other politicians, Lukashenko is currently the least Yehubor controlled politician in Europe.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Interesting, also, the fact that he gives figure of the past some lip service, does not mean he is himself too good. Some people who think that figure of the past was some sort of evil guy that practiced oppression do the same as some form of "Yeah, I am with the evil guys too, Oh hell naw" type of thing.

All of this around the info appears to be largely motivated by Russia, they are probably trying to overthrow the president there.

DiscipleOfSatan said:
A few videos showing what actually happens in Belarus:

"Peaceful" protesters drive through the police cordon, purposefully running officers over - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvN9zWYNEgg

"Peaceful Protesters" throwing paving stones and molotov cocktails at police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4YbmhN6ok0

Totally not paid and organized by Soros and other yehuborim protesters peacefully protesting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC0OBjmYDrs

There are two things one should immediately notice. The mainstream media is showing you only the reaction of the police officers, but not what provoked this reaction. "Evil cops started beating peaceful protesters who didn du nuffin for absolutely no reason at all". And most importantly... The "peaceful protesters" are pretty well trained and organized... These are obviously not just random people protesting...

P.S

I believe that there were some isolated cases when the police used excessive force, not only on rioters, but by mistake, or something else, on actually peaceful protesters. But I cannot believe that the police massively just randomly beats up and tortures random people, without being provoked, to basically just satisfy the thirst for blood of the 'evil dictator' Lukashenko....

I am not idealizing Lukashenko, I am sure that he can be blamed for many things... But compared to other politicians, Lukashenko is currently the least Yehubor controlled politician in Europe.
If you have time, take a look at this news.

More missiles on Gaza, Israel's retaliation continues

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Video:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1296534649418723329video

For the ninth consecutive night, the Israeli army has bombed the Strip as a reaction to an alleged rocket launched by Palestinians in the south of the Yehuborim state.

Missiles continue on Gaza. For the ninth consecutive night, Israeli war planes have bombed the Strip in retaliation for an alleged attack by the Palestinians launching a rocket into the South of the Yehuborim state.

The missiles on Gaza continued into the night between Thursday and Friday. A series of bombings began in practice after the announcement of the agreement between Israel and the Arab Emirates for a normalization of relations that could represent a watershed in the Middle East political scene. An agreement between Israelis and Sunni Arabs would, in fact, create difficulties for the Shiite community, which includes the Palestinians, but also Iran and a large part of the peninsula, which has always been crossed by rivalry between the two religious factions. Bombardments to which, according to the Israeli military spokesman, the Palestinians would have responded from Gaza by launching three rockets that would have been intercepted by the Iron Dome.

Also cut the power to the Strip

In addition to the nine consecutive nights of bombing there is also the fact that since Tuesday also the only electricity system in the Strip is closed. The Israeli government has in fact decided to block the transport of fuel for the Gaza power station. A stop that leaves the area with the possibility of access to electricity for just four hours a day and which is part of a wider series of punishments that the government in Tel Aviv has imposed on the two million Palestinians living in Gaza. But the risk is that in the long run these cuts could damage the health facilities in the area in particular. According to the Jerusalem Post, the attack reported by Israel did not cause any damage or injury, but this has not so far stopped the bombardments that are terrorizing the citizens of the Strip.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...n-gaza-in-retaliation-for-hamas-balloon-bombs

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/05/7204...ding-in-gaza-as-600-rockets-fired-into-israel

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.al...-killings-latest-updates-191112062846745.html

Alexei Navalny, a longtime opponent of Vladimir Putin, now in coma after suspected poisoning

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ch...su5attimfqnj2sdhncm-story.html?outputType=amp
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
This is just shocking and insane, I had not read this completely and now it is up.

This is what is coming in every country in Europe if we do not stop the enemy. They are now collapsing, so things like this are to be expected.

In Belarus, they also strangulated much of the internet, and from what I read online, even cut the electricity of people? Could be fake news. Orban was blamed on many accounts also, especially because of their handling of Coronavirus. yehuborim went as far as to blame Sweden and other countries for not locking people in, unironically, calling them "Dictators" at the same time?

Insanity like this appear to be experimental, like now with the Coronavirus.

The "Coronavirus" was only an excuse for them to do things like that to people. Belarus didn't take the virus seriously but the power abuse remained the same against people. yehuborim did a lot during the Pandemic as both bluff and attack to wreck freedoms.

As for the internet the news are NOT fake. There are people in Russia who are holding servers for Belarusians right now so that they could ommunicate. We know which programs work and which do not. Which VPN does and which does not. Tor does not work in Belarus anymore. SSH does not. Only the one which is over SSL (VPN-over-HTTPS) does. Loyal hackers throughout Slav worlds hold telegram proxies for them, try to help Belarusians as they can.

Sorry. It was not my intent whatsoever to argue about Lukashenko's regime vs West. No. Just my heart bled over my people, because Lukashenko himself, his non-White leader of the military forces (leader of Belarusian FSB) and all of them admitted themselves that they really did beat, maim and murdered a lot of innocents (even those loyal who voted for Lukashenko and just happened to be in streets).

As for Putin. Officially his propaganda fully sides with Lukashenko and (at least according news I do not argue whether it is a fake) Putin promissed Lukashenko help and is going to lead Russian troops to Belarus to force down the offspring against Lukashenko.

Planets went to war. And yehuborim try to use it against the Whitest of Whites instead of letting it be used against themselves.

The greatest Russian oppositioner to Putin& FSB was poisoned very seriously several days ago - right in time of Belarusian civil war. He was very active about it. It came like a great shock to all Russians, despite of most people understand this opposition might be fake. Still his opposition made very big deal to undermine Putin's and FSB's power over decades and if he die now poisoned by Putin, it will undermine Putin&FSB further to the extent where the revolt will come next.

Just saying. The Cryptocurrency was finally banned in Russia, Russia is going to be the first country to enforce vaccination from covid-19 and a mess of other restricting laws were signed. New ones are being signed every day. A lot of cities are filled with riots in both countries.
 
This thread certainly became conflicting in terms of what's being presented. My own contact in Eastern Europe has been filtering some news for me, and a lot of the OP's reports seem to be true. I admit, I'm reluctant to think positively of Lukashenko, given the fact that not only is he literally a Communist (this is undeniable fact I'm afraid) but even in the modern day, the Belarusian Communist party is in support of Lukashenko's regime. This is also undeniable fact. And outside of some extremely minor back and forth dickwaving between him and Putin, Putin's own Yehuborim regime is also extremely in support of Lukashenko and always has been. Given all of this, and the strangulation of the internet in Belarus, I'd be pretty confident in not thinking highly of Lukashenko or his regime.

Furthermore, just because the Western mainstream media claims to dislike someone is not an automatic seal of someone being great. The Western mainstream media after all, claims to hate and despise Putin. Putin also acted anti-refugee compared to most European leaders. These two facts don't suddenly make Putin anything other than he is. And everyone here knows that Putin is a Yehubor agent. And like HP said, some lip service to figure of the past doesn't automatically make someone great either considering they do it under the vein of pretending he was some madman evil dictator and that such things are great. Most of Lukashenko's supporters are all diehard "anti-nazis" anyway, and anti-fascist flags and symbols are common at his rallies.

In regards to DiscipleOfSatan, I'm sorry to say but, like I said, I'm reluctant to think well of the Belarusian government given the actual hard facts I have access to. As jewed as mainstream media is in the west, automatically and blindly accepting the opposite of the news isn't always going to lead straight to the truth (see what I said about Putin, the same also applies for the Saudis, for instance). I'll finish by saying that I'm still, even after researching all of this, not highly educated on everything pertaining to Belarus. I'm just saying, if you're going to speak in favor of an actual literal communist, expect people here to not reliably accept that too quickly. People have extremely good reason to believe that this sort of violent degeneracy is happening in Belarus. Using Putin as the example one last time, just because the western mainstream media puts out a report on Russian protestors being tortured and jailed, doesn't mean it isn't happening.
 
More than 30 members of 'PMC Wagner' detained near Minsk, Belarus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv3Ww9nKOaU

PMC (private military company) Wagner is a Russian paramilitary organization, owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a businessman with close links to Russian President Vladimir Putin. It's literally Putin's (and some other Russian oligarchs) private military company. What were these mercenaries doing in Belarus? Officially, no one knows, but the only possible explanation is that their goal was to assassinate Alexander Lukashenko, or they were planning a coup against him in some other way. According to other sources, there were more than 200 Wagner militants in Belarussian territory before the election.
 
Terror exist. It's a fact. It reminds me the early USSR. You CAN tell the truth about Lukashenko, but you SHOULDN'T. At first turn, it's criminally punishable. But nobody would attract you to responsibility. If your "friend" or someone else tell police about your words, consequences will be terrible. You wouldn't be killed or arrested, but thrown to psychiatric clinic. You would be like vegetable. I've seen at least 5 people with this fate.
What concerns life quality... Usual retirement is about 100-150$. At the same time, only necessary things for a week cost 20-30$. And retired people need medicine, what are really expensive. I know a retired person who is paid about 100$ and needed medicine which cost 150$. What concerns the person, he worked for 42 years 10 hours per day 6 days per week. Without any holiday.
Yes, salary is not so bad in Belarus if you worked hard. But retirements really poor.
 
Edward Lonsa said:
DiscipleOfSatan said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
This is just shocking and insane, I had not read this completely and now it is up.

This is what is coming in every country in Europe if we do not stop the enemy. They are now collapsing, so things like this are to be expected. In Belarus, they also strangulated much of the internet, and from what I read online, even cut the electricity of people.

Insanities like these appear to be experiments, like now with the Coronavirus. The "Coronavirus" was only an excuse for them to do things like that to people. Belarus didn't take the virus seriously but the power abuse remained the same against people.
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Edward Lonsa has posted many important posts. I am quite sure that he does not post things that are untrue, DiscipleOfSatan; attemps to discredit him are futile.

Also trying to spread division and lies is not something that is looked upon kindly. Messages that spread confusion or make people believe otherwise are also not taken in kindly, once people realize that they were lies.
 
Naneli47 said:
Terror exist. It's a fact. It reminds me the early USSR. You CAN tell the truth about Lukashenko, but you SHOULDN'T. At first turn, it's criminally punishable. But nobody would attract you to responsibility. If your "friend" or someone else tell police about your words, consequences will be terrible. You wouldn't be killed or arrested, but thrown to psychiatric clinic. You would be like vegetable. I've seen at least 5 people with this fate.
What concerns life quality... Usual retirement is about 100-150$. At the same time, only necessary things for a week cost 20-30$. And retired people need medicine, what are really expensive. I know a retired person who is paid about 100$ and needed medicine which cost 150$. What concerns the person, he worked for 42 years 10 hours per day 6 days per week. Without any holiday.
Yes, salary is not so bad in Belarus if you worked hard. But retirements really poor.

I don't know what situation with retirement in Belarus is, but most likely, same as all other Eastern European countries, it's terrible. But this is something the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank should be blamed for, not Lukashenko and the Belarusian government.

Being thrown to psychiatric clinic for criticizing Lukashenko? Having an army grenade shoved into your pants by the police because you attended a protest? Sorry, but there is no way I could believe that. The non-state owned media in Belarus is openly anti-government, and anti-Lukashenko. And as you can see from the videos posted in the topic, the protesters are not afraid to "reveal" on Twitter how 'Lukashenko is literally figure of the past', without hiding their faces... These stories sound too made-up, and I haven't saw any evidence of this. Just some isolated cases when the police used excessive force, but without telling you the background story. As for the child covered in blood, I wonder how dumb you have to be to take your child to a riot where paving stones and molotov cocktails are being thrown...
 
Arcadia said:
This thread certainly became conflicting in terms of what's being presented. My own contact in Eastern Europe has been filtering some news for me, and a lot of the OP's reports seem to be true. I admit, I'm reluctant to think positively of Lukashenko, given the fact that not only is he literally a Communist (this is undeniable fact I'm afraid) but even in the modern day, the Belarusian Communist party is in support of Lukashenko's regime. This is also undeniable fact. And outside of some extremely minor back and forth dickwaving between him and Putin, Putin's own Yehuborim regime is also extremely in support of Lukashenko and always has been. Given all of this, and the strangulation of the internet in Belarus, I'd be pretty confident in not thinking highly of Lukashenko or his regime.

Furthermore, just because the Western mainstream media claims to dislike someone is not an automatic seal of someone being great. The Western mainstream media after all, claims to hate and despise Putin. Putin also acted anti-refugee compared to most European leaders. These two facts don't suddenly make Putin anything other than he is. And everyone here knows that Putin is a Yehubor agent. And like HP said, some lip service to figure of the past doesn't automatically make someone great either considering they do it under the vein of pretending he was some madman evil dictator and that such things are great. Most of Lukashenko's supporters are all diehard "anti-nazis" anyway, and anti-fascist flags and symbols are common at his rallies.

In regards to DiscipleOfSatan, I'm sorry to say but, like I said, I'm reluctant to think well of the Belarusian government given the actual hard facts I have access to. As jewed as mainstream media is in the west, automatically and blindly accepting the opposite of the news isn't always going to lead straight to the truth (see what I said about Putin, the same also applies for the Saudis, for instance). I'll finish by saying that I'm still, even after researching all of this, not highly educated on everything pertaining to Belarus. I'm just saying, if you're going to speak in favor of an actual literal communist, expect people here to not reliably accept that too quickly. People have extremely good reason to believe that this sort of violent degeneracy is happening in Belarus. Using Putin as the example one last time, just because the western mainstream media puts out a report on Russian protestors being tortured and jailed, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Lukashenko was NOT a member of the politburo of the communist party of the Soviet Union! He was just a member of the party, same as ~20 million other soviet citizens in the 1980s. He is from a family of average people, and not some high ranking communists, or anything like that. It was impossible to get a job in any institution without being a member of the party in the Soviet Union, so I'm not even sure if his membership reflects his beliefs at the time. The argument that you cannot speak in favor of Lukashenko because he was a communist in the 1980's (again, not a member of the politburo, not some kind of a high-ranking communist, just a member of the party, like 20 million other soviet citizens) is just absurd. By the same logic, you cannot say anything positive about any politician in the world in the past 75 years, because they all were either communists, or capitalists, (which is also a Yehuborim despicably anti-human ideology ideology, it's like comparing Christianity and Islam) and were forced to be politically correct, meaning to kiss Yehuborim ass, due to the present day political environment...

The easiest thing in the world is to criticize and blame, but if we suppose you are the leader of a small country in the present day social, economical, and political environment, I don't see how you are going to establish the Fourth Reich. It seems like this is what you expect from Lukashenko in order to say something positive about him.

Again, Alexander Lukashenko openly opposed the Covid-19 Orwellian society, and by not implementing any form of a lockdown proved to the whole world that it's a giant hoax and conspiracy, that has absolutely nothing to do with public health or safety. If that's not a reason enough to speak positive about him, I don't know what is.

Are you really not seeing the irony that all other politicians, and governments, who placed under a house arrest their whole countries, forced them to wear slave masks, to live in isolation, and deprived them from access to healthcare, as all "nonessential" surgeries and procedure were delayed, which killed tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people, these are not "regimes", or "dictatorships", but you are using these words for Lukashenko and his government, who haven't done any of that?
 
Apprentice said:
Powerofjustice said:
Armor piercing ammo is a myth, it doesnt exist in the way that you think it does.
Check out .50 API and tell that again.

I am aware of 50bmg, however its not meant to shoot people with, its an antimalarial round. What I meant by that is you can shoot a cop wearing a cevlar vest with a 5.56 round and it would still go through, seeing as the cops in Belarus don't wear ceramic plates you don't need armor piecring rounds.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Edward Lonsa said:
DiscipleOfSatan said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
This is just shocking and insane, I had not read this completely and now it is up.

This is what is coming in every country in Europe if we do not stop the enemy. They are now collapsing, so things like this are to be expected. In Belarus, they also strangulated much of the internet, and from what I read online, even cut the electricity of people.

Insanities like these appear to be experiments, like now with the Coronavirus. The "Coronavirus" was only an excuse for them to do things like that to people. Belarus didn't take the virus seriously but the power abuse remained the same against people.
.

Edward Lonsa has posted many important posts. I am quite sure that he does not post things that are untrue, DiscipleOfSatan; attemps to discredit him are futile.

Also trying to spread division and lies is not something that is looked upon kindly. Messages that spread confusion or make people believe otherwise are also not taken in kindly, once people realize that they were lies.

I am not trying to discredit anyone, I am only opposing his position solely and specifically about Belarus and Lukashenko... I am sure that he is not spreading this misleading information intentionally, and as I said, I believe he has been mislead by the manipulative information spread by the media, including the social media and the internet. There are many Youtube channels, websites, etc, that present themselves as independent, and at first sight look independent, but in reality they are representing a lobby, funded by Soros' foundations, and so on. Everyone can be mislead, because there is so much misinformation about everything, and there are many things you can't verify for yourself.

It's understandable that you haven't heard of Belarus, or Lukashenko before, but what's frustrating is that you haven't even read the topic before blaming me for spreading "lies, confusion, and division"... I am not talking only about my posts, read the topic itself and ask yourself where is the evidence for 'the terror greater than in North Korea'?

The only things that were posted as evidence for Belarus being a communist dictatorship are that the police used force against protesters, and that some were arrested. Many of these protesters were throwing paving stones and molotov cocktails against the police (and by the way, the most violent of them are not even Belarusian, but Ukrainian and Russian mercenaries).... Most of the stories that were described as 'unbelievable horrors' such as the cop who said to the arrested protester who demanded to speak with their lawyer, that they watched too many american movies, and it doesn't work that way, or cops swearing and yelling - do you really think that the police in every other country would treat differently the participants of violent riots? In most other countries, this is how the police treats even peaceful protesters. How do you expect the Belarusian police to threat these protesters, considering the fact that paving stones and molotov cocktails were being thrown? As for the story about the guy who had an army grenade shoved into his pants by the police, this is just ridiculous and can't be true. Since when police officers carry army grenades?

And if we call Belarus a "totalitarian regime", "dictatorship" and so on, because the police used force against the protesters (I don't know how they are supposed to react, considering the fact that paving stones and molotov cocktails were being thrown at them during these "protests" and some tried to run over police officers with their cars) then what term should we use for the countries where people were fined insane amounts of money for criticizing the Covid lockdowns on social media, or for not wearing slave masks, or simply for being outside their homes? Or the people who were sentenced to prison for questioning the WW2 in Western countries? Btw, Belarus is one of the few countries where the 'WW2 denial' is not criminalized. I wonder how many people were jailed for Covid-19 violations in the "non-dictatorship" countries....

I know that I am saying this for 3rd time in this topic, but it's so absurd to claim that Belarus is a totalitarian regime, while it was one of the very few countries in the world that didn't lockdown and didn't violate any human rights, while the rest of the world was locked under a house arrest, forced to wear slave masks, social isolation, social distance, fined for going to the park, and all of the Orwellian crap that in many countries continues to this day. Ad on top of all that, tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people were killed because they didn't had access to healthcare as surgeries, diagnosis and treatment were delayed from March to May. Lukashenko openly opposed this, and haven't done any of that. How many other politicians in the world opposed the covid-19 insanity, which was literally the emergence of Orwellian society? And if Belarus is a "totalitarian regime" or "dictatorship" then what term would you use for all the countries where this Orwellian society was fully materialized during the Covid-19 insanity?

To me, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, all countries of Eastern Europe except Belarus, the majority of the Democratic states in the US, especially New York, and New Jersey, and so on, during the lockdowns and the covid-19 insanity deserve to be compared to North Korea. Not the only political leader in Europe who opposed this.
 
Apprentice said:
Powerofjustice said:
Armor piercing ammo is a myth, it doesnt exist in the way that you think it does.
Check out .50 API and tell that again.
Just watch any video by Demolition Ranch on youtube. :lol:

He is very nice person, great family. And shows a lot of cool things.
 
Lukashenko just declared a few weeks ago that he had received a billion dollars from the Monetary Fund and the World Bank, on the condition that he implement a complete lockdown in Belarus "like Italy"; and when he refuses, certainly by coincidence the colored revolution breaks out at home, complete with exaltation on world TV.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/16/belarus-in-the-firing-line-for-a-colour-revolution/

https://translate.google.com/transl...ia-rifiuta-milioni-lockdown-italia-assurdita/

All of these is part of Great Global Reset:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/imf-wef-great-lockdown-great-transformation/5721090
 
DiscipleOfSatan said:
Arcadia said:
This thread certainly became conflicting in terms of what's being presented. My own contact in Eastern Europe has been filtering some news for me, and a lot of the OP's reports seem to be true. I admit, I'm reluctant to think positively of Lukashenko, given the fact that not only is he literally a Communist (this is undeniable fact I'm afraid) but even in the modern day, the Belarusian Communist party is in support of Lukashenko's regime. This is also undeniable fact. And outside of some extremely minor back and forth dickwaving between him and Putin, Putin's own Yehuborim regime is also extremely in support of Lukashenko and always has been. Given all of this, and the strangulation of the internet in Belarus, I'd be pretty confident in not thinking highly of Lukashenko or his regime.

Furthermore, just because the Western mainstream media claims to dislike someone is not an automatic seal of someone being great. The Western mainstream media after all, claims to hate and despise Putin. Putin also acted anti-refugee compared to most European leaders. These two facts don't suddenly make Putin anything other than he is. And everyone here knows that Putin is a Yehubor agent. And like HP said, some lip service to figure of the past doesn't automatically make someone great either considering they do it under the vein of pretending he was some madman evil dictator and that such things are great. Most of Lukashenko's supporters are all diehard "anti-nazis" anyway, and anti-fascist flags and symbols are common at his rallies.

In regards to DiscipleOfSatan, I'm sorry to say but, like I said, I'm reluctant to think well of the Belarusian government given the actual hard facts I have access to. As jewed as mainstream media is in the west, automatically and blindly accepting the opposite of the news isn't always going to lead straight to the truth (see what I said about Putin, the same also applies for the Saudis, for instance). I'll finish by saying that I'm still, even after researching all of this, not highly educated on everything pertaining to Belarus. I'm just saying, if you're going to speak in favor of an actual literal communist, expect people here to not reliably accept that too quickly. People have extremely good reason to believe that this sort of violent degeneracy is happening in Belarus. Using Putin as the example one last time, just because the western mainstream media puts out a report on Russian protestors being tortured and jailed, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Lukashenko was NOT a member of the politburo of the communist party of the Soviet Union! He was just a member of the party, same as ~20 million other soviet citizens in the 1980s. He is from a family of average people, and not some high ranking communists, or anything like that. It was impossible to get a job in any institution without being a member of the party in the Soviet Union, so I'm not even sure if his membership reflects his beliefs at the time. The argument that you cannot speak in favor of Lukashenko because he was a communist in the 1980's (again, not a member of the politburo, not some kind of a high-ranking communist, just a member of the party, like 20 million other soviet citizens) is just absurd. By the same logic, you cannot say anything positive about any politician in the world in the past 75 years, because they all were either communists, or capitalists, (which is also a Yehuborim despicably anti-human ideology ideology, it's like comparing Christianity and Islam) and were forced to be politically correct, meaning to kiss Yehuborim ass, due to the present day political environment...

The easiest thing in the world is to criticize and blame, but if we suppose you are the leader of a small country in the present day social, economical, and political environment, I don't see how you are going to establish the Fourth Reich. It seems like this is what you expect from Lukashenko in order to say something positive about him.

Again, Alexander Lukashenko openly opposed the Covid-19 Orwellian society, and by not implementing any form of a lockdown proved to the whole world that it's a giant hoax and conspiracy, that has absolutely nothing to do with public health or safety. If that's not a reason enough to speak positive about him, I don't know what is.

Are you really not seeing the irony that all other politicians, and governments, who placed under a house arrest their whole countries, forced them to wear slave masks, to live in isolation, and deprived them from access to healthcare, as all "nonessential" surgeries and procedure were delayed, which killed tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people, these are not "regimes", or "dictatorships", but you are using these words for Lukashenko and his government, who haven't done any of that?

“Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.”
― figure of the past

There are people that use the same kind of arguements in the west about places like China and North Korea btw.
 

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