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Arguing With an Xian

Ashley Ardis

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I just went to my first day of my fourth semester at college. I went to an American short story literature class for nineteenth century and beyond short stories, which you would think has nothing to do with xianity, right? Well, I thought so too until we had our first class discussion which fired me up enough to write this. My teacher told us that in order for us to understand why American literature in that time period was the way it was, we would have to understand the "puritan roots" of our country and their beliefs/"the fall from grace". Firstly, puritan roots is bull shit. Secondly, I knew I was going to be thoroughly pissed because of the discussion because man "falling from grace" is also bull shit and she really pointed out in plain english why, but no one was smart enough to read through the lines and figure out why.   **We all know that xianity is bullshit, but the purpose of me writing this is so that people who find themselves arguing with an xian can stump them in their tracks with their beliefs**   She said to us that in their beliefs (lies) man and woman were created as "god's" companions, without knowledge of good and evil, or the ability to judge. Without the ability to judge, or have a bias opinion, how can you have a thought process? How can you be an individual? How can you be anything but a mindless zombie? How can you be human? They were supposed to be created in a paradise to live forever (which is stolen from Satan directly as Satan is the one who gave us immortality, and created us with the ability to be more than a zombie). Why the fuck would you want to live forever like that?   She then said to us that "god" put the tree of life into the garden of eden that contained the knowledge of good and evil. Firstly, the tree of knowledge has nothing to do with xianity and is in fact something they stole from previous religions because they don't know the meaning of originality or creativity as expressed in my previous statement. If "god" wanted companions (which you couldn't really be a companion without the ability to think) why put the tree there and tell them not to eat it? And, if you were supposed to be a companion why would you be ordered around? That sounds more like a slave to me, especially if you are told do and don't for no other reason than "I said so", which is in the case of "god" telling adam and eve not to eat of the tree.   So, I asked her to prove a point, why would "god" put a tree there and tell them not to eat it if he didn't want them to eat it. And she said to us that "god" gave us free will. (Again, stolen directly from Satan and His gift to us--individuality and freedom) So then my question to her was, how can you have free will if your choices are a) be with "god" or b) burn forever in a pit of brimstone and fire? Any idiot would pick the choice that sounds the least painful because they know nothing about the Truth and how it really is. How can that be a free will when it is a choice that scares you into choosing? People are deathly afraid to go to "Hell" (which is the German word for light) so they choose xianity out of fear. That's not fucking free will. That's a deceitful, shady way to trick someone into xianity--or the lies the enemy created.   Stating the above, and knowing the Truth/Satan, I can't understand why people choose xianity when it is so blatantly obvious that it is bull shit. The above is just simple logic using their beliefs to prove them wrong.
 HAIL SATAN!
HAIL THE GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL ASTAROTH!
 
Very well said, yet many will still be fooled and choose to stay
with the enemy. You know, people(not everyone) don't think
now a days. They just follow everyone else instead of thinking.

Hail Satan!!! Hail Azazel!!! Hail the Gods of Duat!!!
 
I love telling them about the serpent in the garden of Eden you explained, and then sit back and watch them try to rationalize it!!It's very entertaining!!

There are xian evangelists trying to twist the words of the buybull around to make it mean something else than it means, usually in cases when I show them all the bad stuff in the buybull about rape, killing e.t.c. I ask them "Is "god" omnipotent and benevolent enough to mean what he says and not to confuse people by writing random riddles, YES or NO? Do you believe your "god" is an monster that would write things he doesn't mean so they would not know the truth and be tortured in hell, or do you believe your "god" is so weak that he would let humans corrupt/twist his word (since you believe the buybull is the word of "god")?If you believe that certain parts of the buybull don't have to be taken literally, who decides which parts are? For example, if you claim the genesis story is allegorical then what makes you think that jewsus or "god" are real beings and not allegories for something else?" This is a really easy way to stump them! You may hear xians reply that they know what they say it is the truth because they have a good feeling, or hear a voice something. Well, then I would show them other xians who claim different things but they also say they have a good feeling or hear a voice!!




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ashley Ardis <atheron666@... wrote:

I just went to my first day of my fourth semester at college. I went to an
American short story literature class for nineteenth century and beyond short
stories, which you would think has nothing to do with xianity, right? Well, I
thought so too until we had our first class discussion which fired me up enough
to write this. My teacher told us that in order for us to understand
why American literature in that time period was the way it was, we would have to
understand the "puritan roots" of our country and their beliefs/"the fall from
grace". Firstly, puritan roots is bull shit. Secondly, I knew I was going to be
thoroughly pissed because of the discussion because man "falling from grace" is
also bull shit and she really pointed out in plain english why, but no one was
smart enough to read through the lines and figure out why.

**We all know that xianity is bullshit, but the purpose of me writing this is so
that people who find themselves arguing with an xian can stump them in their
tracks with their beliefs**

She said to us that in their beliefs (lies) man and woman were created as
"god's" companions, without knowledge of good and evil, or the ability to judge.
Without the ability to judge, or have a bias opinion, how can you have a thought
process? How can you be an individual? How can you be anything but a mindless
zombie? How can you be human? They were supposed to be created in a paradise to
live forever (which is stolen from Satan directly as Satan is the one who gave
us immortality, and created us with the ability to be more than a zombie). Why
the fuck would you want to live forever like that?


She then said to us that "god" put the tree of life into the garden of eden that
contained the knowledge of good and evil.

Firstly, the tree of knowledge has nothing to do with xianity and is in fact
something they stole from previous religions because they don't know the meaning
of originality or creativity as expressed in my previous statement. If
"god" wanted companions (which you couldn't really be a companion without the
ability to think) why put the tree there and tell them not to eat it? And, if
you were supposed to be a companion why would you be ordered around? That sounds
more like a slave to me, especially if you are told do and don't for no other
reason than "I said so", which is in the case of "god" telling adam and eve not
to eat of the tree.


So, I asked her to prove a point, why would "god" put a tree there and tell them
not to eat it if he didn't want them to eat it. And she said to us that "god"
gave us free will. (Again, stolen directly from Satan and His gift to
us--individuality and freedom) So then my question to her was, how can you have
free will if your choices are a) be with "god" or b) burn forever in a pit of
brimstone and fire? Any idiot would pick the choice that sounds the least
painful because they know nothing about the Truth and how it really is. How can
that be a free will when it is a choice that scares you into choosing? People
are deathly afraid to go to "Hell" (which is the German word for light) so they
choose xianity out of fear. That's not fucking free will. That's a deceitful,
shady way to trick someone into xianity--or the lies the enemy created.

Stating the above, and knowing the Truth/Satan, I can't understand why
people choose xianity when it is so blatantly obvious that it is bull shit. The
above is just simple logic using their beliefs to prove them wrong.

 HAIL SATAN!
HAIL THE GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL ASTAROTH!
 

Another point is if they don't right from wrong and he's all powerful and told them not to eat from the tree, then why did they eat from the tree? Don'tknow if I'm wording this right. Bu this is a major flaw I saw within their words.   All Hail Satan.
From: Ashley Ardis <atheron666@...
To: Joy Of Satan 666 <[email protected]
Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 8:14:52 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Arguing With an Xian



I just went to my first day of my fourth semester at college. I went to an American short story literature class for nineteenth century and beyond short stories, which you would think has nothing to do with xianity, right? Well, I thought so too until we had our first class discussion which fired me up enough to write this. My teacher told us that in order for us to understand why American literature in that time period was the way it was, we would have to understand the "puritan roots" of our country and their beliefs/"the fall from grace". Firstly, puritan roots is bull shit. Secondly, I knew I was going to be thoroughly pissed because of the discussion because man "falling from grace" is also bull shit and she really pointed out in plain english why, but no one was smart enough to read through the lines and figure out why.   **We all know that xianity is bullshit, but the purpose of me writing this is so that people who find themselves arguing with an xian can stump them in their tracks with their beliefs**   She said to us that in their beliefs (lies) man and woman were created as "god's" companions, without knowledge of good and evil, or the ability to judge. Without the ability to judge, or have a bias opinion, how can you have a thought process? How can you be an individual? How can you be anything but a mindless zombie? How can you be human? They were supposed to be created in a paradise to live forever (which is stolen from Satan directly as Satan is the one who gave us immortality, and created us with the ability to be more than a zombie). Why the fuck would you want to live forever like that?   She then said to us that "god" put the tree of life into the garden of eden that contained the knowledge of good and evil. Firstly, the tree of knowledge has nothing to do with xianity and is in fact something they stole from previous religions because they don't know the meaning of originality or creativity as expressed in my previous statement. If "god" wanted companions (which you couldn't really be a companion without the ability to think) why put the tree there and tell them not to eat it? And, if you were supposed to be a companion why would you be ordered around? That sounds more like a slave to me, especially if you are told do and don't for no other reason than "I said so", which is in the case of "god" telling adam and eve not to eat of the tree.   So, I asked her to prove a point, why would "god" put a tree there and tell them not to eat it if he didn't want them to eat it. And she said to us that "god" gave us free will. (Again, stolen directly from Satan and His gift to us--individuality and freedom) So then my question to her was, how can you have free will if your choices are a) be with "god" or b) burn forever in a pit of brimstone and fire? Any idiot would pick the choice that sounds the least painful because they know nothing about the Truth and how it really is. How can that be a free will when it is a choice that scares you into choosing? People are deathly afraid to go to "Hell" (which is the German word for light) so they choose xianity out of fear. That's not fucking free will. That's a deceitful, shady way to trick someone into xianity--or the lies the enemy created.   Stating the above, and knowing the Truth/Satan, I can't understand why people choose xianity when it is so blatantly obvious that it is bull shit. The above is just simple logic using their beliefs to prove them wrong.
 HAIL SATAN!
HAIL THE GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL ASTAROTH!



 
They just say that shit because they know you're right. They stand there like a deer in headlights with no arguement, and the only comment they have is "well..it's just a feeling." It sounds more like a lie they are telling themselves so they don't look stupid, even though that is how they feel at the end of the conversation.
 HAIL SATAN!
HAIL THE GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL ASTAROTH!

From: kikesmasher88 <kikesmasher88@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 12:17:28 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Arguing With an Xian

  I love telling them about the serpent in the garden of Eden you explained, and then sit back and watch them try to rationalize it!!It's very entertaining!!

There are xian evangelists trying to twist the words of the buybull around to make it mean something else than it means, usually in cases when I show them all the bad stuff in the buybull about rape, killing e.t.c. I ask them "Is "god" omnipotent and benevolent enough to mean what he says and not to confuse people by writing random riddles, YES or NO? Do you believe your "god" is an monster that would write things he doesn't mean so they would not know the truth and be tortured in hell, or do you believe your "god" is so weak that he would let humans corrupt/twist his word (since you believe the buybull is the word of "god")?If you believe that certain parts of the buybull don't have to be taken literally, who decides which parts are? For example, if you claim the genesis story is allegorical then what makes you think that jewsus or "god" are real beings and not allegories for something else?" This is a really easy way to stump them! You may hear xians reply that they know what they say it is the truth because they have a good feeling, or hear a voice something. Well, then I would show them other xians who claim different things but they also say they have a good feeling or hear a voice!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ashley Ardis <atheron666@... wrote:

I just went to my first day of my fourth semester at college. I went to an
American short story literature class for nineteenth century and beyond short
stories, which you would think has nothing to do with xianity, right? Well, I
thought so too until we had our first class discussion which fired me up enough
to write this. My teacher told us that in order for us to understand
why American literature in that time period was the way it was, we would have to
understand the "puritan roots" of our country and their beliefs/"the fall from
grace". Firstly, puritan roots is bull shit. Secondly, I knew I was going to be
thoroughly pissed because of the discussion because man "falling from grace" is
also bull shit and she really pointed out in plain english why, but no one was
smart enough to read through the lines and figure out why.

**We all know that xianity is bullshit, but the purpose of me writing this is so
that people who find themselves arguing with an xian can stump them in their
tracks with their beliefs**

She said to us that in their beliefs (lies) man and woman were created as
"god's" companions, without knowledge of good and evil, or the ability to judge.
Without the ability to judge, or have a bias opinion, how can you have a thought
process? How can you be an individual? How can you be anything but a mindless
zombie? How can you be human? They were supposed to be created in a paradise to
live forever (which is stolen from Satan directly as Satan is the one who gave
us immortality, and created us with the ability to be more than a zombie). Why
the fuck would you want to live forever like that?


She then said to us that "god" put the tree of life into the garden of eden that
contained the knowledge of good and evil.

Firstly, the tree of knowledge has nothing to do with xianity and is in fact
something they stole from previous religions because they don't know the meaning
of originality or creativity as expressed in my previous statement. If
"god" wanted companions (which you couldn't really be a companion without the
ability to think) why put the tree there and tell them not to eat it? And, if
you were supposed to be a companion why would you be ordered around? That sounds
more like a slave to me, especially if you are told do and don't for no other
reason than "I said so", which is in the case of "god" telling adam and eve not
to eat of the tree.


So, I asked her to prove a point, why would "god" put a tree there and tell them
not to eat it if he didn't want them to eat it. And she said to us that "god"
gave us free will. (Again, stolen directly from Satan and His gift to
us--individuality and freedom) So then my question to her was, how can you have
free will if your choices are a) be with "god" or b) burn forever in a pit of
brimstone and fire? Any idiot would pick the choice that sounds the least
painful because they know nothing about the Truth and how it really is. How can
that be a free will when it is a choice that scares you into choosing? People
are deathly afraid to go to "Hell" (which is the German word for light) so they
choose xianity out of fear. That's not fucking free will. That's a deceitful,
shady way to trick someone into xianity--or the lies the enemy created.

Stating the above, and knowing the Truth/Satan, I can't understand why
people choose xianity when it is so blatantly obvious that it is bull shit. The
above is just simple logic using their beliefs to prove them wrong.

 HAIL SATAN!
HAIL THE GODS OF DUAT!
HAIL ASTAROTH!
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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