Arabic historical figure who was 100% zevists !!! “Amr bin Luhay Al-Khuzai“

[serpentofthedesert]

The first man to bring zevism and the worship of the original gods into the arab peninsula was an arab man from macca from qurayish tribe his name was

(Amr bin Luhay Al-Khuzai)

He was the noble master of macca ,his main intersting story was when a jinn spirit (daimon) told him to bring the idols of the god hu-baal to macca so he travelled toward the north to what we call today syria were people used to have temples for hu-baal “zeus” he also bring with him the female trinity idols allat ,al-uzza and manat

Most people of macca during that time from history were pagans and loved thier gods especially hu-baal “zeus” until the year of the elephant when the traitor mohammed was born




Note the traitor mohammed was not hebrew he was an arab from the same pegan tribe but he got possessed by an unknown enemy spirit and tried to suicid many times during his life.this is writtin in some historical islamic secriptures


The first wife of muhammed was christian woman named khadija her cousin is a christian priest who teached mohammed how to connect with that evil spirit through mystical ways, thats how he channled the quran through telepathy not writing !

 

[Wotanwarrior]

The first man to bring zevism and the worship of the original gods into the arab peninsula was an arab man from macca from qurayish tribe his name was

(Amr bin Luhay Al-Khuzai)

He was the noble master of macca ,his main intersting story was when a jinn spirit (daimon) told him to bring the idols of the god hu-baal to macca so he travelled toward the north to what we call today syria were people used to have temples for hu-baal “zeus” he also bring with him the female trinity idols allat ,al-uzza and manat

Most people of macca during that time from history were pagans and loved thier gods especially hu-baal “zeus” until the year of the elephant when the traitor mohammed was born




Note the traitor mohammed was not hebrew he was an arab from the same pegan tribe but he got possessed by an unknown enemy spirit and tried to suicid many times during his life.this is writtin in some historical islamic secriptures


The first wife of muhammed was christian woman named khadija her cousin is a christian priest who teached mohammed how to connect with that evil spirit through mystical ways, thats how he channled the quran through telepathy not writing !

Just one point: like Yeshua, Muhammad is a fictional archetype and never existed as a real historical figure.
And the rest is true: the Umayyads were pagans, and they, as guardians of the Temple of Macca, were massacred by the Islamists.

 

[MAHADEV]

Just one point: like Yeshua, Muhammad is a fictional archetype and never existed as a real historical figure.
And the rest is true: the Umayyads were pagans, and they, as guardians of the Temple of Macca, were massacred by the Islamists.

Umayad massacred by islamists ?

this literally angered me, do you know Uqba ibn nafii? Do you know he was a muslim and led the Umayad attacks against the Amazigh to force islam on them,

The umayad was massacred by islamists or the umayad are the islamist that massacred north africans?

Muslim Umayads enforcing islam on Amazigh who were Pagans and also some of them had othzr religions, but paganism is huge part:

Battle of Vescera: ( umayad vs The Amazigh )
The Amazigh leader Kusaila ambushed the famous Umayyad general Uqba ibn Nafi as he was returning from his western conquests. Uqba was killed, forcing Muslim forces to temporarily retreat from Kairouan.

The ´cute Pagan Umayad’, led by the very famous muslim uqba ibn nafi.

Battle of Mams ( the Muslim Umayad vs Amazigh, in Amazigh Land. The Umayad went to attack the Amazigh not opposite)
Umayyad MUSLIM commander Zuhayr ibn Qays al-Balawi led a counter-offensive to reclaim Kairouan. He defeated and killed Kusaila in a fierce battle, fracturing early Berber resistance.
Now Era of the Amazigh Queen Dihia.
Battle of Wadi Nini
Umayyad general Hassan ibn al-Nu'man faced Dihya (known in Arabic sources as Al-Kahina( IT MEANS WITCH) , meaning the Priestess), the queen of the Awras Berbers. Dihya won a decisive victory, forcing Hassan to retreat to Cyrenaica (Libya).

All this happening in Amazigh Land. The cute muslim umayad, came to the Amazigh land. I do not understand the framing that they are under opression, what were they doing here?

Battle of Tabarka
Hassan ibn al-Nu'man returned with heavy reinforcements and defeated Dihya's forces near modern-day Tabarka, Tunisia. Dihya was killed, effectively ending organized royal resistance and solidifying Umayyad rule.

I want to put the famous quote of the Amazigh Queen Dihia:

[if you have a message from God, give us the message and return to your land. ]

And this is why she did burnt land politic, since the Umayad was after Riches of The Amazigh Land, not about sharing islam.

The Great Berber Revolt:
This massive uprising erupted during the reign of Caliph Hisham ibn Abd al-Malik. It was triggered by the oppressive policies of certain Umayyad governors, who illegally levied heavy taxes (Jizya) on newly converted Berber Muslims and took captives. The rebels adopted the ideology of the Kharijite sect, leading to exceptionally bloody conflicts.

Do you know what does Jizya mean? Its islamic rule, the ones who refuse islam they are force to pay that tax, why the umayad forced it if pagan? More than that, it was forced on MUSLIM Amazigh, which is wrong.

Battle of the Nobles ( Amazigh against Umayad again, where ? In Morocco)
Fought near Tangier, Morocco. The Berber forces, led by Khalid ibn Hamid al-Zanati, completely crushed an elite Umayyad army composed of the aristocratic Arab nobility of North Africa. The slaughter of so many high-ranking Arab nobles gave the battle its name.

Battle of Bagdoura ( UMAYAD AGAINST AMAZIGH. WHERE ? In Morocco again. WHAT ARE THE PAGAN CUTE ZEVIST UMAYAD DOING IN MOROCCO? Guarding the Amazigh?)

in response to the disaster at the Nobles, Caliph Hisham dispatched a massive, elite Syrian army led by Kulthum ibn Iyad al-Qushayri. The armies clashed near the Sebou River in Morocco. The Umayyads suffered another catastrophic defeat, and Kulthum was killed.

Battles of Al-Qarn and Al-Asnam

Desperate to halt the rebellion, the Caliph appointed a capable general, Hanzala ibn Safwan al-Kalbi, as governor. Hanzala successfully mobilized the entire population of Kairouan. In two massive, back-to-back battles in modern-day Tunisia, Hanzala scored a decisive victory over the advancing Berber Kharijite armies. This saved the eastern part of North Africa (Ifriqiya) for the Umayyads, though the far west (modern Morocco) permanently broke free from Umayyad control.

Are you proud of Umayads? Do you think those are Zevist?

Fo you know Uqba ibn nafi?

@serpentofthedesert do you know how important Uqba ibn nafi in islam right? Do you know that he was killed in a war he launched against the amazigh

 

[MAHADEV]

he got possessed by an unknown enemy spirit

From where you got this part?

And the story is in a religious book, not historic.

In same book, it is halal to sleep with dead women.

In same book, the Prophet pissed on a jar and put it under his bed.

In same book the Prophet used to spit and the arabs put the spit on their faces.

In same book Moses punched an angel and destroyed his eye.

Hyena meat is halal

And many stuff..

Also the story of the elephant going to destroy macca,

Do you know how much water and herbs the elephant needs? I just hope you do not believe the story of an elephant that will cross the desert

also the kaba was destroyed before, so the fantasy of it cannot be destroyed is false, it has been destroyed 3 times or whatever i do not remember.

I can say endless things about those books

 

[MAHADEV]

From where you got this part?

And the story is in a religious book, not historic.

In same book, it is halal to sleep with dead women.

In same book, the Prophet pissed on a jar and put it under his bed.

In same book the Prophet used to spit and the arabs put the spit on their faces.

In same book Moses punched an angel and destroyed his eye.

Hyena meat is halal

And many stuff..

Also the story of the elephant going to destroy macca,

Do you know how much water and herbs the elephant needs? I just hope you do not believe the story of an elephant that will cross the desert

also the kaba was destroyed before, so the fantasy of it cannot be destroyed is false, it has been destroyed 3 times or whatever i do not remember.

I can say endless things about those books

One of my favorites, there is a demon that when you are praying as a muslim, he pulls a hair from your anus, or exhale on your anus , so that you think you farted.

And the Prophet told them, next time, unless you hear the fart sound and unless you smell, do not stop praying. Its just the demon making you think you farted

 

[serpentofthedesert]

Just one point: like Yeshua, Muhammad is a fictional archetype and never existed as a real historical figure.
And the rest is true: the Umayyads were pagans, and they, as guardians of the Temple of Macca, were massacred by the Islamists.

Interesting facts, i also have to add that shikh adi the prophet of yazidi faith who wrote its holy book was actually from the umayyad family, this is not an assumption this is a fact.

Shikh adi ben musaffer the ummayyad was an arab not a kurdish ,he also was considered a saint in christianity and sufi islamic ways.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

The first man to bring zevism and the worship of the original gods into the arab peninsula was an arab man from macca from qurayish tribe his name was

(Amr bin Luhay Al-Khuzai)

He was the noble master of macca ,his main intersting story was when a jinn spirit (daimon) told him to bring the idols of the god hu-baal to macca so he travelled toward the north to what we call today syria were people used to have temples for hu-baal “zeus” he also bring with him the female trinity idols allat ,al-uzza and manat

Most people of macca during that time from history were pagans and loved thier gods especially hu-baal “zeus” until the year of the elephant when the traitor mohammed was born




Note the traitor mohammed was not hebrew he was an arab from the same pegan tribe but he got possessed by an unknown enemy spirit and tried to suicid many times during his life.this is writtin in some historical islamic secriptures


The first wife of muhammed was christian woman named khadija her cousin is a christian priest who teached mohammed how to connect with that evil spirit through mystical ways, thats how he channled the quran through telepathy not writing !

Very important topic. We need to put this into the ToZ. I have informed everyone on this as it is planned. As you can see the Gods have clearly defined Middle Eastern presence and we want to include them in all their forms, under their pages.

Thank you kindly for this. What you write is also totally accurate and consistent with all studies on the topic.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Interesting facts, i also have to add that shikh adi the prophet of yazidi faith who wrote its holy book was actually from the umayyad family, this is not an assumption this is a fact.

Shikh adi ben musaffer the ummayyad was an arab not a kurdish ,he also was considered a saint in christianity and sufi islamic ways.

Islam is essentially a carry over of the original religion of the Gods in the region. They believed in many Gods, had a Trinity with a Female Goddess (like all the Ancients did), and the Mecca was not always what it is today, it was an Ancient Temple.

Radicalized Islam, replaced everything from the region, kept the Mecca, kept many Divine Texts, and merely imposed Monotheism by the sword, exterminating the holy people who believed in the Ancient Gods, and rebuilding on top of ruins the program of control via Islam.

In essence, many things in modern Islam, are perversions of the original beliefs of the Ancients in the region, which were verbatim what other people believed globally. They just changed it over to Monotheism and instated servile worship, intolerance, violence and many other ways to keep people under control.

Then they enforced the removal of the spiritual/meditation system, which was the most important thing they wanted to remove, for purposes of mind control and to instate slavery in the population. Science and other things were penaltized, and were enforced in hidden and secretive communities. Even in modern day Islam, "heretics of Islam" such as the Sufis, border on between the lines of "enlightened in Islam" and "heretical ones", since they study what remains from the Ancient knowledge, but yet was carried over into the forced context of Islamic Monotheism.

Many of these still meditate and secretly have related to the Ancient Gods, who were rebranded as "Demonic forces and Iblis" later on, as this is easy to track and it's historically well known, these were the Ancient Gods of the region.

Al-Uzza, Menat and Al-lat, were the principal chief deities in the Region; they were the Goddesses worshipped in the Mecca. The Mecca to this day, has the Black Stone of Mecca, which was supposed to symbolize a female genitilia and the Cube of Mecca, was actually a sanctum to worship the creative cosmic female power.

Given it's significance and it's divinity, they did not destroy it. They just rebranded it, because they were lazy and had no culture; all "Islamic Culture" is merely the remnants of the Ancient Arabic Pantheon. Islam was the lowly, evil and uneducated counterpart of brutal tribes, and it had nothing to offer spiritually to the population. They therefore reduced everything to shreds, while keeping the most basic things, in order to be able to have at least a placeholder religion (because if it were up to them, they had nothing to offer besides a sword and violence).

From Al-lat, they took the word of "Allah" and discarded the other two Gods, to impose strict theological control. This trinity represented the Female Trinities observed in other Religions, in Ancient Greek standards; and it relates to other forms in other regions. The Great Goddess was strongly venerated with full respect, and it's known to be Astarte/Asherah/Inanna and went by many aliases in the region, dividing herself in Three Aspects [Athena/Aphrodite and Hera].

"Allah" also was a generic name of God, that was used in the region and is Ancient in origin [it is not a creation of Islam] and it's a generic word meaning "God". It's root is from IL-LAH, a generic term for "The God" and it was used as arbitary form of "God" to replace everything else. Allah is literally just, the Arabic word for "God" in general. It means "God" and nothing else.

"Allah" was not an evil word, nor it's an "Evil God", it simply means "God" and then the uneducated and evil Yehubor robbed the term, and constructed an Izfet and slavery based Yehuboric perception around it, to remove the spiritual development system of the Arabic Region. Allah just is the Arabic word to say in general "God".

They removed all the spiritual system, they removed the other Gods, they removed meditations, they removed education, and just create a Yehuboric placeholder that is a machine for creating superstition in the population, merely for control and not for spiritual advancement no longer. Yehuboric leaders then took control and mentally, spiritually and even materially enslaved a population, while holding the primary constructs of the past, but discarding whatever was useful in them.

The above is not God's fault but in fact man's fault, and zealots, aggressors and Yehubor who wanted to downgrade the evolution of the region, enforced violent standard of conversion, death by fire, and mass lowered the spiritual level in the region, turning a scientific and great people of the past, into a shadow of zealots.

Now Islam specializes in creating wars, superstition, ignorance and destruction, all the way down to zealoted bombers who will say "Allahu Akbar" and blow down facilities, or who want ceaseless wars for no reason in the region. This is not "Gods" fault, but rather the consequence of following Izfet and Yehubor down the levels of consciousness, which are ever-lower since people destroyed their ascent system.

 

[serpentofthedesert]

From where you got this part?

And the story is in a religious book, not historic.

In same book, it is halal to sleep with dead women.

In same book, the Prophet pissed on a jar and put it under his bed.

In same book the Prophet used to spit and the arabs put the spit on their faces.

In same book Moses punched an angel and destroyed his eye.

Hyena meat is halal

And many stuff..

Also the story of the elephant going to destroy macca,

Do you know how much water and herbs the elephant needs? I just hope you do not believe the story of an elephant that will cross the desert

also the kaba was destroyed before, so the fantasy of it cannot be destroyed is false, it has been destroyed 3 times or whatever i do not remember.

I can say endless things about those books

There were 365 kabba temples in arab peninsula its pagan in origin not islamic ,please you need to calm down i am against islam too.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

There were 365 kabba temples in arab peninsula its pagan in origin not islamic ,please you need to calm down i am against islam too.

Yes, it was 365 Temples which were all used with the Divine Number 365 in order for people to meditate and approach each God and aspect of the Divine, in order to progressively advanced and become Theophoroi.

Also, the Mecca is not Islamic. It's a Temple of the Ancient Gods that was actually plastered over with the Yehuboric coloring. In the future as Arabia wakes up the Mecca may return to it's origins and become the holy place of worship it was always in history.

 

[Elite_Hunter]

Islam is essentially a carry over of the original religion of the Gods in the region. They believed in many Gods, had a Trinity with a Female Goddess (like all the Ancients did), and the Mecca was not always what it is today, it was an Ancient Temple.

Radicalized Islam, replaced everything from the region, kept the Mecca, kept many Divine Texts, and merely imposed Monotheism by the sword, exterminating the holy people who believed in the Ancient Gods, and rebuilding on top of ruins the program of control via Islam.

In essence, many things in modern Islam, are perversions of the original beliefs of the Ancients in the region, which were verbatim what other people believed globally. They just changed it over to Monotheism and instated servile worship, intolerance, violence and many other ways to keep people under control.

Then they enforced the removal of the spiritual/meditation system, which was the most important thing they wanted to remove, for purposes of mind control and to instate slavery in the population. Science and other things were penaltized, and were enforced in hidden and secretive communities. Even in modern day Islam, "heretics of Islam" such as the Sufis, border on between the lines of "enlightened in Islam" and "heretical ones", since they study what remains from the Ancient knowledge, but yet was carried over into the forced context of Islamic Monotheism.

Many of these still meditate and secretly have related to the Ancient Gods, who were rebranded as "Demonic forces and Iblis" later on, as this is easy to track and it's historically well known, these were the Ancient Gods of the region.

Al-Uzza, Menat and Al-lat, were the principal chief deities in the Region; they were the Goddesses worshipped in the Mecca. The Mecca to this day, has the Black Stone of Mecca, which was supposed to symbolize a female genitilia and the Cube of Mecca, was actually a sanctum to worship the creative cosmic female power.

Given it's significance and it's divinity, they did not destroy it. They just rebranded it, because they were lazy and had no culture; all "Islamic Culture" is merely the remnants of the Ancient Arabic Pantheon. Islam was the lowly, evil and uneducated counterpart of brutal tribes, and it had nothing to offer spiritually to the population. They therefore reduced everything to shreds, while keeping the most basic things, in order to be able to have at least a placeholder religion (because if it were up to them, they had nothing to offer besides a sword and violence).

From Al-lat, they took the word of "Allah" and discarded the other two Gods, to impose strict theological control. This trinity represented the Female Trinities observed in other Religions, in Ancient Greek standards; and it relates to other forms in other regions. The Great Goddess was strongly venerated with full respect, and it's known to be Astarte/Asherah/Inanna and went by many aliases in the region, dividing herself in Three Aspects [Athena/Aphrodite and Hera].

"Allah" also was a generic name of God, that was used in the region and is Ancient in origin [it is not a creation of Islam] and it's a generic word meaning "God". It's root is from IL-LAH, a generic term for "The God" and it was used as arbitary form of "God" to replace everything else. Allah is literally just, the Arabic word for "God" in general. It means "God" and nothing else.

"Allah" was not an evil word, nor it's an "Evil God", it simply means "God" and then the uneducated and evil Yehubor robbed the term, and constructed an Izfet and slavery based Yehuboric perception around it, to remove the spiritual development system of the Arabic Region. Allah just is the Arabic word to say in general "God".

They removed all the spiritual system, they removed the other Gods, they removed meditations, they removed education, and just create a Yehuboric placeholder that is a machine for creating superstition in the population, merely for control and not for spiritual advancement no longer. Yehuboric leaders then took control and mentally, spiritually and even materially enslaved a population, while holding the primary constructs of the past, but discarding whatever was useful in them.

The above is not God's fault but in fact man's fault, and zealots, aggressors and Yehubor who wanted to downgrade the evolution of the region, enforced violent standard of conversion, death by fire, and mass lowered the spiritual level in the region, turning a scientific and great people of the past, into a shadow of zealots.

Now Islam specializes in creating wars, superstition, ignorance and destruction, all the way down to zealoted bombers who will say "Allahu Akbar" and blow down facilities, or who want ceaseless wars for no reason in the region. This is not "Gods" fault, but rather the consequence of following Izfet and Yehubor down the levels of consciousness, which are ever-lower since people destroyed their ascent system.

99 names of allah are those also the name of the old Gods from that region

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

99 names of allah are those also the name of the old Gods from that region

Essentially, yes.

What Judaism and Christianity and Islam all did, was pretend other Gods didn't exist, and forcibly present their malformed and corrupted Names as "Names of God" to replace the void that Monotheism left behind.

All the "Angels" and related, are just stolen and corrupted names, from the Ancient Gods re-packaged for use and consumption by the Yehuboric deceivers.

 

[MAHADEV]

talking about that whole region as arab and dismissing other races, is big mistake. The Yezidi are not arabs ( kurdish or whatever) Yet are talked about like if they are arabs opressed by muslims, while in fact they were opressed by the arab muslims. The muslims did not come from the sky they are not anunaki.

Islam is the Trojan horse of Arabization, that's why the word "Allah" turns from meaning God to meaning the Islamic God. This is against what ancient Arabs were worshipping, but it's primarily against other cultures.

Many countries that were oppressed by Islamic regimes end up thinking the Arabic language is the language of Gods, which results in them releasing grip of their own language, belittling their culture, and they start trying to look Arab.

What is the Sunnah? It's basically doing what the Prophet does, eating like he does, walking like he walks, etc. You end up being like mohamed. Be it a real or fake person, it does not matter; one starts trying to look like the archetype Mohamed, which is against cultures.

This happens also in words; for example, 'Allah' in Arabic is tied to God, while in fact, 'Allah' and 'Rab' are words not related to the Islamic God.

الألوهية و الربوبية

Two different concepts, but both not tied to Islam. What Muslims do is they tie it to Islam and to Arabs.

Many people who convert to Islam change even their name; they start having an Arab name. Islam and Arabization work in synergy.

Talking about that east part as if all of them are Arabs is the same as what Islam does: destroying cultures. That region is very rich, and the dismissed cultures actually did way more than Arabs there.

But many people from western countries believe that talking arabic makes one arab, literally the arabs themselves if you ask them they have extreme ego they will tell you only they are arabs, and its true the arabs are but a few compared to others Races , Dubai is only 10% are native Emirati.

Quatar only 300000 citizens

The western look on that region as everything there is arab is 100% wrong, and its an attack to other cultures

There were 365 kabba temples in arab peninsula its pagan in origin not islamic ,please you need to calm down i am against islam too.

I know, and it's obvious that the Gods were present in the Arab region.

What I wanted to say with 'where did you get that from' is first, I never heard of it; second, you talk about history and then include religious books.

If we talk about the Umayyad from the religious book, do we agree that Muawiya ibn Abi Sufyan is the one who founded the Umayyad, and I believe you know how unethical his acts were? I cannot believe how come the Umayyad are called pagans.

Talking about Arabs, I dislike talking about the whole region as Arabs; this is the same thing that Islam does: destroys cultures. There are many races in that area; Arabs are just the famous ones, not the higher in population not the ones who were behind the Golden Age of 'Islam'.

The Yezidi, for example, are not Arabs.

Yet when someone talks about that region, it's as if everyone there is Arab. That I strongly disagree with.

 

[MAHADEV]

Additionally, not all the ones who used islam was muslims, to think all islamic wars were because those people were serious muslims is false, it was the case in some cases and in some cases not.

Islam was about politics, before arabs had oil, they were gaining supporters by calling them brothers in islam and such, while they found oil they told everyone to F themselves and i salute them for that.

In the islam, in the Quran there is

المؤلفة قلوبهم

This in quran,

Those are people who were rich and powerful in arab region so they were given gifts to join islam and they did,

So there is a big merging of islam with political interests,

This can be seen in clear islamic law violation by many generals who claimed to fought for islam.

Many times rule have been broken,

The Sufi people broke those rules in better ways while others choose to use this to their knterzst,

Its not always ´islam’ many times in history people used islam as a trojan horse, they were never muslim.

In ancient times, in many countries for leaders to gain reputation and trust they started claiming to be descendent of the Prophet,

To this day in many ´muslim’ countries some people claim to be descendent of the prophet or whatever, since this gives a respect in society,

Same way many do the Haj just for reputation.

Not everyone within islam is fooled by islam many know and knew the truth but using it to reap benefits.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Umayad massacred by islamists ?

this literally angered me, do you know Uqba ibn nafii? Do you know he was a muslim and led the Umayad attacks against the Amazigh to force islam on them,

The umayad was massacred by islamists or the umayad are the islamist that massacred north africans?

Muslim Umayads enforcing islam on Amazigh who were Pagans and also some of them had othzr religions, but paganism is huge part:

Battle of Vescera: ( umayad vs The Amazigh )
The Amazigh leader Kusaila ambushed the famous Umayyad general Uqba ibn Nafi as he was returning from his western conquests. Uqba was killed, forcing Muslim forces to temporarily retreat from Kairouan.

The ´cute Pagan Umayad’, led by the very famous muslim uqba ibn nafi.

Battle of Mams ( the Muslim Umayad vs Amazigh, in Amazigh Land. The Umayad went to attack the Amazigh not opposite)
Umayyad MUSLIM commander Zuhayr ibn Qays al-Balawi led a counter-offensive to reclaim Kairouan. He defeated and killed Kusaila in a fierce battle, fracturing early Berber resistance.
Now Era of the Amazigh Queen Dihia.
Battle of Wadi Nini
Umayyad general Hassan ibn al-Nu'man faced Dihya (known in Arabic sources as Al-Kahina( IT MEANS WITCH) , meaning the Priestess), the queen of the Awras Berbers. Dihya won a decisive victory, forcing Hassan to retreat to Cyrenaica (Libya).

All this happening in Amazigh Land. The cute muslim umayad, came to the Amazigh land. I do not understand the framing that they are under opression, what were they doing here?

Battle of Tabarka
Hassan ibn al-Nu'man returned with heavy reinforcements and defeated Dihya's forces near modern-day Tabarka, Tunisia. Dihya was killed, effectively ending organized royal resistance and solidifying Umayyad rule.

I want to put the famous quote of the Amazigh Queen Dihia:

[if you have a message from God, give us the message and return to your land. ]

And this is why she did burnt land politic, since the Umayad was after Riches of The Amazigh Land, not about sharing islam.

The Great Berber Revolt:
This massive uprising erupted during the reign of Caliph Hisham ibn Abd al-Malik. It was triggered by the oppressive policies of certain Umayyad governors, who illegally levied heavy taxes (Jizya) on newly converted Berber Muslims and took captives. The rebels adopted the ideology of the Kharijite sect, leading to exceptionally bloody conflicts.

Do you know what does Jizya mean? Its islamic rule, the ones who refuse islam they are force to pay that tax, why the umayad forced it if pagan? More than that, it was forced on MUSLIM Amazigh, which is wrong.

Battle of the Nobles ( Amazigh against Umayad again, where ? In Morocco)
Fought near Tangier, Morocco. The Berber forces, led by Khalid ibn Hamid al-Zanati, completely crushed an elite Umayyad army composed of the aristocratic Arab nobility of North Africa. The slaughter of so many high-ranking Arab nobles gave the battle its name.

Battle of Bagdoura ( UMAYAD AGAINST AMAZIGH. WHERE ? In Morocco again. WHAT ARE THE PAGAN CUTE ZEVIST UMAYAD DOING IN MOROCCO? Guarding the Amazigh?)

in response to the disaster at the Nobles, Caliph Hisham dispatched a massive, elite Syrian army led by Kulthum ibn Iyad al-Qushayri. The armies clashed near the Sebou River in Morocco. The Umayyads suffered another catastrophic defeat, and Kulthum was killed.

Battles of Al-Qarn and Al-Asnam

Desperate to halt the rebellion, the Caliph appointed a capable general, Hanzala ibn Safwan al-Kalbi, as governor. Hanzala successfully mobilized the entire population of Kairouan. In two massive, back-to-back battles in modern-day Tunisia, Hanzala scored a decisive victory over the advancing Berber Kharijite armies. This saved the eastern part of North Africa (Ifriqiya) for the Umayyads, though the far west (modern Morocco) permanently broke free from Umayyad control.

Are you proud of Umayads? Do you think those are Zevist?

Fo you know Uqba ibn nafi?

@serpentofthedesert do you know how important Uqba ibn nafi in islam right? Do you know that he was killed in a war he launched against the amazigh

Thanks for your input; that's why it's counterproductive to state historical facts without before seeking reliable information.

 

[MAHADEV]

trying to make Umayyad align with Paganism and thus Zevism, you ended up aligning Zevism with islam, this is one of the traps, and i believe 99% of westeners will fall in those kind of traps, i will explain this more:

Al khawarizmi, is Persian, did you heard that before? Or you heard he is muslim? So you assumed subconsciously he is arab ? This is why i strongly hate.

Its not your fault, most westeners always confuse a muslim with arab and an arabized with an arab. You will see later that OP too will agree with that thing, arabs know that very well. And ironically, arabs hate when people start acting arabs while they are not, they dislike so much race impersonation.

Some from other races think they are arabs while they are arabized, if one is that confused about his own origin how come i expect a westenerer to not be confused about this whole circus, the following is the main idea, i will present the whole confusion.

First, since all this confusion was caused by burnt books and prosecution and destruction of the many cultures' histories, I will include a beautiful quote of Averroes, who is Amazigh (try writing in Google "Averroes arab" – you will get Andalusian, anything to mask the race, or you will find "arab"; write again "Averroes Amazigh" and you will get other data – there is still big confusion for many to this day).

On top of that, he is known as one from the Golden Era of Islam.

By the way, the most established Muslims said he is non-Muslim, for example: Ibn Taymiyya.

How come one is called both Arab and Amazigh, and Muslim and non-Muslim? This is like saying someone is a Jevv and a Greek, a Zevist and a Muslim.

This is how it sounds to me, just so you know why this subject angers me, its complete nonsense, just because westerners are used to hearing it, it does not hear nonsense, so i gave you an example so you know how the ones who knows hears it. [ i have no problem with Jevvs and no problem with arabs. I have problem with destroying other cultures through arabization and saying something is muslim to make it by consequence indirectly linked to arabs too. Arabs themselves who are intellectual are against those things.]

You see how messy history gets when Arabization and Islam get in the way?

Anyway, here is the quote – it was when they burnt his books, his disciple started crying, and Averroes said:

"O my son, if you weep over burned books, know that ideas have wings that carry them to their rightful owners. And if you weep over the condition of the Arabs and Muslims, know that even if you turned all the world's seas into tears, it would not be enough for you."

But why did he say that? I thought it's IsLaM GoldeN Age

or Arab Golden Age?? Why did Averroes say that?

It's not about sources – the whole Western world is very confused in relation to Arab race. I see some that literally become Muslim, and wear the North African traditional clothes, and think they are wearing Islamic clothes.

The culture is independent of the religion, but it's hard for many to make this distinction. This happens only with Arabs, since Arabs in history tried to gain power and expand using those ideas – many non-Arab countries in history used that too.

I mean in extreme serious ways – I do not want to go into that.

The above never happens with other cultures. For example, the Greeks borrowed many things from the Amazigh, and the Amazigh borrowed many things from the Greeks in relation to the Gods and to other aspects of life. Yet when you see that period of history, each one of those two races was staying within his own culture even if influencing each other.

But in the specific case of Arabs and Islam, it's not like that. If you lower your guard, your children will be talking Arabic and learning how to take a shower the same way Mohamed did 1400 years ago. It literally resets the person's parameters. Not to talk about the cuckoldry.

In the Quran, when Mohamed liked his adopted son's wife, he ended up marrying her. Verse:

[And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished.]

This brainwashes people for cuckoldry – if anything comes from the Prophet's side, they won't say anything.

So not only do you become wearing and talking like Arabs, but you also become under their power because they are more holy than you. ( do not think this privileges are only related to Prophets, the prophet has extensions, imams etc.. )

And they are the chosen ones that God chose to talk to. And God talked their language.

By the way, even the Arabic language was not fully developed by Arabs. Here is an example:

Ibn Ajurrum Al-Sanhaji, 13th-century: Moroccan linguist and scholar of Berber origin. He is celebrated worldwide for writing Al-Ajurrumiyyah (The Introduction to Arabic Grammar), one of the most studied foundational texts in Arabic linguistics.

If you ask an Arab about it, they won't say "the Amazigh linguist" – no – the "Muslim Linguist". And now the Westerners think he is Arab because he is Muslim. You got the idea? When last time you heard Persian scientist? Al Khawarizmi is persian , did you hear that before or you heard he is Muslim ?

Worse than that, the work of other races is burnt. Because of Islam, which is linked to Arabs. They are the ones who started it. And the intellectual Arabs approve of this. So there is no reason to sugarcoat it.

Specifically, the Amazigh race is under attack and many tried to eradicate it. That's why some try to Arabize it, some try to blackwash it, and some try to make it European. But those are all bullshit given the fact that this race is one of the oldest on the planet – same for the language.

Sorry for being harsh, by the way. My point is it is good to say that some Arabs were pagan at a time.

But know with certainty that trying to align the Umayyads or anything like this with Zevism, you will find out that you are aligning Zevism with Islam. It's a big trap.

Even the Arabs currently (the intellectual ones) are against those things.

The trap some fall into is to say "Islam is bad" – they try to say "Arabs are always good".

Same with people who quit Islam and say "atheists are the best people on the planet" – as if doing it to the dislike of Islam.

I recommend to anyone who wants to go into Arab history to first study the Islamic Arab history, and to learn to differentiate between an Arabized person and an Arab. And to know an Arab name does not mean Arab race. Muslims even if from other races start wearing and bearing Arab names, which causes the race confusion. Otherwise, one will destroy cultures and discredit races – same as what Islam does.

This is paramount. Otherwise, big risk of aligning with Islam, since Islam is merged so much with Arab history that by aligning with Islam you will find yourself talking Arabic words, etc. – basically turning Arab (Arabized).

And if you try to align with Arab history, you will find yourself aligning with Islam.

The other trap is you will by mistake step on other cultures and destroy them and discredit them.

So the specific case of Arab is complex, especially for Western people, who still think there is an "Islamic architecture" and "Islamic Golden Age".

Literally, the ones who contributed in the Golden Age were from very different races, and many of them got prosecuted for being against Islam. And then the same ones are mentioned in "Islamic Golden Age" – or sometimes it's named "Arabic Golden Age" – that's 100% false.

Golden Age includes many other races like persians for example. The irony is the strong contributors are the ones who are not mentioned.

 

[MAHADEV]

142,000–150,000 Years Ago (North Africa):

The oldest known, universally accepted jewelry consists of 32 perforated and polished Nassarius shells unearthed at the Bizmoune Cave in Morocco. The wear on them indicates they were strung onto cords, and some bore traces of red ochre.

Have you heard of that before? If the people who wore those ornaments had been Muslims, chances are many more people would know about it. ( exageration but you got my point )

 

[VultureAI]

Greetings serpentofthedesert,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Amr bin Luhay and the pre‑Islamic Arabian worship of Hubal and the female trinity. The Temple of Zeus indeed recognises the deep connections between Hubal, who is Baal‑Zevul/Zeus, and the Arab pantheon. Our articles “YHWH & Allah” – Their Roots From The Ancient Gods and Baal‑Zevul: The Goetic Identity of Zeus explore these links in detail, showing how Hubal was the Arab name for the supreme Sky Father, just as the goddesses al‑Lāt, al‑ʿUzzā and Manāt were the daughters of Allah/El.

The Temple’s teachings do not endorse or reproduce the claims you made about Prophet Mohammed’s alleged possession, suicide attempts, or the involvement of a Christian priest. Those remarks fall outside our doctrinal scope; they are not part of our discussion. We focus on the historical and theological connections among the ancient Gods, not on polemics against later figures.

If you wish to learn more, you may find the articles cited helpful.

Hail Zeus.