Answering some questons from several posts

[High Priestess Maxine Dietrich]

I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[Kait Jordan]

So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely  ambitous?

Sent from my iPod

On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:

 

I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[siguarddraconis]

It does make one obsessive, as it is a key feature of Pluto and its sign

It depends upon what you will direct your obsession to. It can be DISCIPLINE, any DOMAIN. If channelled properly, one can go beyond oneself, achieving tremendous results.

If, however, directed negatively, or not at all, (see example below) it can ruin one's life.

Drammanoth Tenebris

Ex Tenebris Lux
Satanas Via, Vera et Vita est!
Ave Satanas, Rege Satanas!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@... wrote:

So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely ambitous?

Sent from my iPod

On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[f.follets]

The nature of the obsession depends on the planets that make up the stellium and the house it is in. Scorpio is the sign of extremes and intensity, so anything in this sign or the 8th house feels the need to go to extremes, great depths and heighs, and sex is something intense on many levels (which is important to Scorpio, since it is a water sign, not too concerned about earthy/physical matters), so sexual obsession is the most common way to Scorpio/8th house misguided energies manifest.

A naturally extremely ambitious person would probably have a stellium (not necessarily in Scorpio) in one of the transpersonal houses (houses 9 through 12), especially the 10th house of ambition and status. Mars and Pluto itself would more than likely be part of the stellium.

Stelliums can manifest in diverse ways, so a stellium in Scorpio doesn't always mean obsession.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@... wrote:

So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely ambitous?

Sent from my iPod

On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[m_18]

<td val[/IMG]From what I have seen, obsessive compulsive over just about anything indicated in the chart there & in other areas of the chart as well. Depends on many factors.

I once saw someone, a Scorpio, a long time ago, after I had been learning astrology for a couple of years, who also had a heavy Virgo/Pisces (axis) influence who also had a drug problem with (speed). They would stay up all nite & all day & clean & organize every little thing in their house, garage, yard, car, etc. When they were done with that, they worked on the themselves. (Picking at themselves. Plucking & trimming hair, etc.) A Jupiter transit was in the mix & thus caused increase, expansion, etc. Jupiter, while generally good, can cause problems as well as obviously too much of anything good or bad is certainly not good.

I didn't stay close friends with them after seeing that happen. I wasn't aware of their problem for a while as they had been hiding it from me. I knew them well enough from discussing astrology with them & had looked at some things in the ephemeris about them as I didn't have a computer then. I have never calculated a chart by hand is point.

--- On Mon, 6/25/12, Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@... wrote:

From: Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Answering some questons from several posts
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Date: Monday, June 25, 2012, 10:15 AM

  So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely  ambitous?

Sent from my iPod
On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 A[/IMG]maxine.dietrich@... wrote:

 

I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.orghttp://www.joyofsatan.org

[/TD]

 

[CaitlinM]

Thanks for the information HP Maxine! One of your sentences got cut
off though, "Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a
natal chart indicate certain areas of life-". What was the rest of it
going to say?

Kait, see the paragraph near the end about Nadia Comaneci, "She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very
positive for her and took her to the top".

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@... wrote:

So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely ambitous?

Sent from my iPod

On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[SLADE_666]

So having saturn, neptune and uranus in Capricorn counts as a stellium? I have them all in the fifth house. saturn is stationary in capricorn, while Uranus and Neptune are Retrograde.
( I got this from astrodienst )

Not sure what It means, I just recently started learning astrology seriously. That's why im glad this group was created lol

Hail Satan !!
Hail The Gods ov Duat !!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], m_18 <magus_18@... wrote:

From what I have seen, obsessive compulsive over just about anything indicated in the chart there & in other areas of the chart as well. Depends on many factors.

I once saw someone, a Scorpio, a long time ago, after I had been learning astrology for a couple of years, who also had a heavy Virgo/Pisces (axis) influence who also had a drug problem with (speed). They would stay up all nite & all day & clean & organize every little thing in their house, garage, yard, car, etc. When they were done with that, they worked on the themselves. (Picking at themselves. Plucking & trimming hair, etc.) A Jupiter transit was in the mix & thus caused increase, expansion, etc. Jupiter, while generally good, can cause problems as well as obviously too much of anything good or bad is certainly not good.

I didn't stay close friends with them after seeing that happen. I wasn't aware of their problem for a while as they had been hiding it from me. I knew them well enough from discussing astrology with them & had looked at some things in the ephemeris about them as I didn't have a computer then. I have never calculated a chart by hand is point.


--- On Mon, 6/25/12, Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@... wrote:

From: Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@...
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Answering some questons from several posts
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, June 25, 2012, 10:15 AM
















 









So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely  ambitous?

Sent from my iPod
On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:






 










I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.



The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.



The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and

can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.



Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.



Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.



SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.



Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life



Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.



One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and

spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.



I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.



Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.



In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.



For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.



High Priestess Maxine Dietrich

http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[sorceressofenki88]

Mom has a stellium! Her Sun, Murcury, Venus, and Mars are all in Gemini, 10th H, all 1 degree apart from each other! But... she's completely tied into xianty. So this makes no sense to me. Just by looking @ the signs and houses her other planets r in, she has other things w/ power and psycic ability. I often feel like she's better than me- now I know y! She's my Saturn (mine is 4th H, Aquarius), anything I say can never be right around her, I'm scared of even talking to her sometimes, I HATE the sound of her voice and how she'll sometimes mock my behaivors in an exaggerated way. I've always felt she way lying whenever she says she loves me w/ all her heart, now I realize that water is her weakest element and her moon is in Aries (I often have 2 remind her that it's ok to veg out and watch TV on weekends, she doesn't HAVE to be constantly busy). I've always viewed her as my opposite. Since she's RHP and therefore deathly afraid of spiritual power (I even remember yelling @ me for lingering around the wiccan booth @ the Universal Light Expo 1ce when I was little, b/c of this I stayed in new-age-limbo for most of my life, moved to wicca the summer of junior year, and then found Father 6th months later, in the years until 2nd grade when I started going to the Expo I was deeply into xainty, upset that I'd never gotten my 1st communion and originally viewing the things @ the Expo as evil) her power got transferred to me (she got pregnant 1st time she tried w/ my dad, never had sex b4, I'm the only kid she'll ever have b/c she had Lupus while pregnant, they had to tie up her tubes and she got a historectomy in my 5th grade summer) since Father knew that my Ausperger's would push me to use it and suceed where both my parents failed (finding him). Though since Saturn's been in Libra since most of the time I've been SS, I've hardly progressed @ all, doesn't help that fire's my weakest element which makes me a huge procrastiator w/ not much determination. There have been a few hints that dad's side may have contibuted some psycic power as well, but I'm not sure. He commited suicide when I was 6. That's how I interpet it @ least. If u want to find out more about mom and I, I was born on Oct. 6th, 1992, @ 8:36 AM in St. Vincent Medical Center in Toledo, OH, USA, and mom was born June 18th, 1968, @ 12:23 PM in Cleaveland, OH, USA, (the closest place to Cleaveland I could find on Astrodienst was Euclid).

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@... wrote:

So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely ambitous?

Sent from my iPod

On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[[email protected]]

Oh this is very interesting !!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "SLADE_666" <slade89666@... wrote:

So having saturn, neptune and uranus in Capricorn counts as a stellium? I have them all in the fifth house. saturn is stationary in capricorn, while Uranus and Neptune are Retrograde.
( I got this from astrodienst )

Not sure what It means, I just recently started learning astrology seriously. That's why im glad this group was created lol

Hail Satan !!
Hail The Gods ov Duat !!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], m_18 <magus_18@ wrote:

From what I have seen, obsessive compulsive over just about anything indicated in the chart there & in other areas of the chart as well. Depends on many factors.

I once saw someone, a Scorpio, a long time ago, after I had been learning astrology for a couple of years, who also had a heavy Virgo/Pisces (axis) influence who also had a drug problem with (speed). They would stay up all nite & all day & clean & organize every little thing in their house, garage, yard, car, etc. When they were done with that, they worked on the themselves. (Picking at themselves. Plucking & trimming hair, etc.) A Jupiter transit was in the mix & thus caused increase, expansion, etc. Jupiter, while generally good, can cause problems as well as obviously too much of anything good or bad is certainly not good.

I didn't stay close friends with them after seeing that happen. I wasn't aware of their problem for a while as they had been hiding it from me. I knew them well enough from discussing astrology with them & had looked at some things in the ephemeris about them as I didn't have a computer then. I have never calculated a chart by hand is point.


--- On Mon, 6/25/12, Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@ wrote:

From: Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Answering some questons from several posts
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, June 25, 2012, 10:15 AM
















 









So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely  ambitous?

Sent from my iPod
On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@ wrote:






 










I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.



The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.



The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and

can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.



Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.



Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.



SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.



Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life



Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.



One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and

spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.



I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.



Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.



In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.



For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.



High Priestess Maxine Dietrich

http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[ch_3_coo]

I would guess so even if they're generational planets. Also I read that if you have a stationary planet in your chart if has a major influence on the persons life.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "SLADE_666" <slade89666@... wrote:

So having saturn, neptune and uranus in Capricorn counts as a stellium? I have them all in the fifth house. saturn is stationary in capricorn, while Uranus and Neptune are Retrograde.
( I got this from astrodienst )

Not sure what It means, I just recently started learning astrology seriously. That's why im glad this group was created lol

Hail Satan !!
Hail The Gods ov Duat !!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], m_18 <magus_18@ wrote:

From what I have seen, obsessive compulsive over just about anything indicated in the chart there & in other areas of the chart as well. Depends on many factors.

I once saw someone, a Scorpio, a long time ago, after I had been learning astrology for a couple of years, who also had a heavy Virgo/Pisces (axis) influence who also had a drug problem with (speed). They would stay up all nite & all day & clean & organize every little thing in their house, garage, yard, car, etc. When they were done with that, they worked on the themselves. (Picking at themselves. Plucking & trimming hair, etc.) A Jupiter transit was in the mix & thus caused increase, expansion, etc. Jupiter, while generally good, can cause problems as well as obviously too much of anything good or bad is certainly not good.

I didn't stay close friends with them after seeing that happen. I wasn't aware of their problem for a while as they had been hiding it from me. I knew them well enough from discussing astrology with them & had looked at some things in the ephemeris about them as I didn't have a computer then. I have never calculated a chart by hand is point.


--- On Mon, 6/25/12, Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@ wrote:

From: Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@
Subject: Re: [JoS_Astrology] Answering some questons from several posts
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Monday, June 25, 2012, 10:15 AM
















 









So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely  ambitous?

Sent from my iPod
On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@ wrote:






 










I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.



The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.



The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and

can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.



Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.



Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.



SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.



Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life



Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.



One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and

spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.



I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.



Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.



In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.



For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.



High Priestess Maxine Dietrich

http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[m_18]

<td val[/IMG]Be careful about arbitrarily giving out your birth data. People can use it for nefarious purposes.

That's another reason the government keeps records of it. If they want it bad enough, they will look it up. They already buy & sell you on wall street thru your birth certificate, steal your blood at birth & then patent your DNA.

--- On Mon, 6/25/12, sorceressofenki88 <kcmsopranobella@... wrote:

From: sorceressofenki88 <kcmsopranobella@...
Subject: [JoS_Astrology] Re: Answering some questons from several posts
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, June 25, 2012, 12:58 PM

  Mom has a stellium! Her Sun, Murcury, Venus, and Mars are all in Gemini, 10th H, all 1 degree apart from each other! But... she's completely tied into xianty. So this makes no sense to me. Just by looking @ the signs and houses her other planets r in, she has other things w/ power and psycic ability. I often feel like she's better than me- now I know y! She's my Saturn (mine is 4th H, Aquarius), anything I say can never be right around her, I'm scared of even talking to her sometimes, I HATE the sound of her voice and how she'll sometimes mock my behaivors in an exaggerated way. I've always felt she way lying whenever she says she loves me w/ all her heart, now I realize that water is her weakest element and her moon is in Aries (I often have 2 remind her that it's ok to veg out and watch TV on weekends, she doesn't HAVE to be constantly busy). I've always viewed her as my opposite. Since she's RHP and therefore deathly afraid of spiritual power (I even remember yelling @ me for lingering around the wiccan booth @ the Universal Light Expo 1ce when I was little, b/c of this I stayed in new-age-limbo for most of my life, moved to wicca the summer of junior year, and then found Father 6th months later, in the years until 2nd grade when I started going to the Expo I was deeply into xainty, upset that I'd never gotten my 1st communion and originally viewing the things @ the Expo as evil) her power got transferred to me (she got pregnant 1st time she tried w/ my dad, never had sex b4, I'm the only kid she'll ever have b/c she had Lupus while pregnant, they had to tie up her tubes and she got a historectomy in my 5th grade summer) since Father knew that my Ausperger's would push me to use it and suceed where both my parents failed (finding him). Though since Saturn's been in Libra since most of the time I've been SS, I've hardly progressed @ all, doesn't help that fire's my weakest element which makes me a huge procrastiator w/ not much determination. There have been a few hints that dad's side may have contibuted some psycic power as well, but I'm not sure. He commited suicide when I was 6. That's how I interpet it @ least. If u want to find out more about mom and I, I was born on Oct. 6th, 1992, @ 8:36 AM in St. Vincent Medical Center in Toledo, OH, USA, and mom was born June 18th, 1968, @ 12:23 PM in Cleaveland, OH, USA, (the closest place to Cleaveland I could find on Astrodienst was Euclid).

--- [/IMG][email protected], Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@... wrote:

So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely ambitous?

Sent from my iPod

On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

[/TD]

 

[Vidyaa]

Sorceress, I understand that the JOS forums are for learning and that astrology is a very detailed and accurate form of divination, but I believe you've made another post like in the past... with ALL of your natal astrology information for everyone to see.

You do know there could be infiltrators that could use your information in a negative way? Just please be more careful.

Hail Satan! Hail Azazel!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sorceressofenki88" <kcmsopranobella@... wrote:

Mom has a stellium! Her Sun, Murcury, Venus, and Mars are all in Gemini, 10th H, all 1 degree apart from each other! But... she's completely tied into xianty. So this makes no sense to me. Just by looking @ the signs and houses her other planets r in, she has other things w/ power and psycic ability. I often feel like she's better than me- now I know y! She's my Saturn (mine is 4th H, Aquarius), anything I say can never be right around her, I'm scared of even talking to her sometimes, I HATE the sound of her voice and how she'll sometimes mock my behaivors in an exaggerated way. I've always felt she way lying whenever she says she loves me w/ all her heart, now I realize that water is her weakest element and her moon is in Aries (I often have 2 remind her that it's ok to veg out and watch TV on weekends, she doesn't HAVE to be constantly busy). I've always viewed her as my opposite. Since she's RHP and therefore deathly afraid of spiritual power (I even remember yelling @ me for lingering around the wiccan booth @ the Universal Light Expo 1ce when I was little, b/c of this I stayed in new-age-limbo for most of my life, moved to wicca the summer of junior year, and then found Father 6th months later, in the years until 2nd grade when I started going to the Expo I was deeply into xainty, upset that I'd never gotten my 1st communion and originally viewing the things @ the Expo as evil) her power got transferred to me (she got pregnant 1st time she tried w/ my dad, never had sex b4, I'm the only kid she'll ever have b/c she had Lupus while pregnant, they had to tie up her tubes and she got a historectomy in my 5th grade summer) since Father knew that my Ausperger's would push me to use it and suceed where both my parents failed (finding him). Though since Saturn's been in Libra since most of the time I've been SS, I've hardly progressed @ all, doesn't help that fire's my weakest element which makes me a huge procrastiator w/ not much determination. There have been a few hints that dad's side may have contibuted some psycic power as well, but I'm not sure. He commited suicide when I was 6. That's how I interpet it @ least. If u want to find out more about mom and I, I was born on Oct. 6th, 1992, @ 8:36 AM in St. Vincent Medical Center in Toledo, OH, USA, and mom was born June 18th, 1968, @ 12:23 PM in Cleaveland, OH, USA, (the closest place to Cleaveland I could find on Astrodienst was Euclid).

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@ wrote:

So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely ambitous?

Sent from my iPod

On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@ wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[jonathon_billing]

6 planet stellium in 10th here.
Pluto hits my Sun and one of my Ruling Signs, both in the stellium, with sextiles, trines ascendant. Pluto is in Scorpio and 8th, it's also a singleton 4 times over(as far as I'm aware).


I consider myself to be a fairly chilled out guy.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

The nature of the obsession depends on the planets that make up the stellium and the house it is in. Scorpio is the sign of extremes and intensity, so anything in this sign or the 8th house feels the need to go to extremes, great depths and heighs, and sex is something intense on many levels (which is important to Scorpio, since it is a water sign, not too concerned about earthy/physical matters), so sexual obsession is the most common way to Scorpio/8th house misguided energies manifest.

A naturally extremely ambitious person would probably have a stellium (not necessarily in Scorpio) in one of the transpersonal houses (houses 9 through 12), especially the 10th house of ambition and status. Mars and Pluto itself would more than likely be part of the stellium.

Stelliums can manifest in diverse ways, so a stellium in Scorpio doesn't always mean obsession.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@ wrote:

So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely ambitous?

Sent from my iPod

On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@ wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[sorceressofenki88]

Ahh! *worried/scared* I thought it would be GOOD to talk about those things here since this is the astrology group!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Vidyaa" <cmchan87@... wrote:

Sorceress, I understand that the JOS forums are for learning and that astrology is a very detailed and accurate form of divination, but I believe you've made another post like in the past... with ALL of your natal astrology information for everyone to see.

You do know there could be infiltrators that could use your information in a negative way? Just please be more careful.

Hail Satan! Hail Azazel!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "sorceressofenki88" <kcmsopranobella@ wrote:

Mom has a stellium! Her Sun, Murcury, Venus, and Mars are all in Gemini, 10th H, all 1 degree apart from each other! But... she's completely tied into xianty. So this makes no sense to me. Just by looking @ the signs and houses her other planets r in, she has other things w/ power and psycic ability. I often feel like she's better than me- now I know y! She's my Saturn (mine is 4th H, Aquarius), anything I say can never be right around her, I'm scared of even talking to her sometimes, I HATE the sound of her voice and how she'll sometimes mock my behaivors in an exaggerated way. I've always felt she way lying whenever she says she loves me w/ all her heart, now I realize that water is her weakest element and her moon is in Aries (I often have 2 remind her that it's ok to veg out and watch TV on weekends, she doesn't HAVE to be constantly busy). I've always viewed her as my opposite. Since she's RHP and therefore deathly afraid of spiritual power (I even remember yelling @ me for lingering around the wiccan booth @ the Universal Light Expo 1ce when I was little, b/c of this I stayed in new-age-limbo for most of my life, moved to wicca the summer of junior year, and then found Father 6th months later, in the years until 2nd grade when I started going to the Expo I was deeply into xainty, upset that I'd never gotten my 1st communion and originally viewing the things @ the Expo as evil) her power got transferred to me (she got pregnant 1st time she tried w/ my dad, never had sex b4, I'm the only kid she'll ever have b/c she had Lupus while pregnant, they had to tie up her tubes and she got a historectomy in my 5th grade summer) since Father knew that my Ausperger's would push me to use it and suceed where both my parents failed (finding him). Though since Saturn's been in Libra since most of the time I've been SS, I've hardly progressed @ all, doesn't help that fire's my weakest element which makes me a huge procrastiator w/ not much determination. There have been a few hints that dad's side may have contibuted some psycic power as well, but I'm not sure. He commited suicide when I was 6. That's how I interpet it @ least. If u want to find out more about mom and I, I was born on Oct. 6th, 1992, @ 8:36 AM in St. Vincent Medical Center in Toledo, OH, USA, and mom was born June 18th, 1968, @ 12:23 PM in Cleaveland, OH, USA, (the closest place to Cleaveland I could find on Astrodienst was Euclid).

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Kait Jordan <kaitjordan@ wrote:

So, question about the Scorpio stellium thing. You said it can make someone obsessive. Is that just sexually or just in general. Like, could having a Scorpio stellium make someone naturaly extremely ambitous?

Sent from my iPod

On 26/06/2012, at 12:36 AM, High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@ wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[ancientgods1]

I am wondering about the YOD aspects. How many deegrees are considered a tight aspect and how many a large aspect ?
I am no expert or lesser aspects then I think that inconjunct can have its effects within 5 degrees or so.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[siguarddraconis]

Inconjunct is a minor aspect, so up to 2 or 3 degrees of orb.

Conjunction and opposition is up to 9, sextile 5 deg, square up to 8, and trine up to 7.


Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ancientgods" <ancientgods@... wrote:

I am wondering about the YOD aspects. How many deegrees are considered a tight aspect and how many a large aspect ?
I am no expert or lesser aspects then I think that inconjunct can have its effects within 5 degrees or so.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@ wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[satansbabi]

Why is the stellium in the 12th house the worst? Or are the planets only harder to handle if you have a stellium in scorpio in the 12th house? Im confused. My 6 yr old son has a stellium im pisces in the 12th house. 0° venus, 18° mercury and 12° uranus. This worries me.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@... wrote:

Inconjunct is a minor aspect, so up to 2 or 3 degrees of orb.

Conjunction and opposition is up to 9, sextile 5 deg, square up to 8, and trine up to 7.


Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ancientgods" <ancientgods@ wrote:

I am wondering about the YOD aspects. How many deegrees are considered a tight aspect and how many a large aspect ?
I am no expert or lesser aspects then I think that inconjunct can have its effects within 5 degrees or so.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@ wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[siguarddraconis]

It requires helluva lot of *spiritual* work so as to reach the hidden depths. My guess: the 12th House has been branded "the house of self-undoing" because spirituality has been aggressively suppressed, and it is / may be this very reason that people were unable to fully reach the depths of their own abyss to find the hidden light (strong aura sublimates negativity).

Sco is death, transformation and intensity so this may add, should the person have some planets in Sco and in the 12th. In other words, this person can either screw him/herself big time OR... :]

The fact of your son having those planets there means only that he has to work on his self-development. VE is strong, but ME quite the opposite (in exile), however, this MAY imply that your son can have tremendous psychic potential which HAS to be channelled - TAMED I'd dare to say. Bear in mind, Neptune (Pis - domicile/home sign/sign of dignity) is strong, so this may add to you son's escapistic tendencies (either fantasies OR worse - drugs, alcohol and whatnot).

Pedagogically speaking, I'd direct your son to hard facts (preventing escapism, not to mention blocking angelic filth), so that he can be grounded (occultism can be explained physically/logically). This is of utmost importance. And above all you must not worry but as I said, encourage him to evolve

Hope it helped a little bit.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "satansbabi" <satansbabi@... wrote:

Why is the stellium in the 12th house the worst? Or are the planets only harder to handle if you have a stellium in scorpio in the 12th house? Im confused. My 6 yr old son has a stellium im pisces in the 12th house. 0° venus, 18° mercury and 12° uranus. This worries me.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@ wrote:

Inconjunct is a minor aspect, so up to 2 or 3 degrees of orb.

Conjunction and opposition is up to 9, sextile 5 deg, square up to 8, and trine up to 7.


Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ancientgods" <ancientgods@ wrote:

I am wondering about the YOD aspects. How many deegrees are considered a tight aspect and how many a large aspect ?
I am no expert or lesser aspects then I think that inconjunct can have its effects within 5 degrees or so.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@ wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

 

[satansbabi]

Thanks Siguard that did help. But how did u know he had Neptune in the 12th house too? I forgot to mention that he has 18° neptune in the 12th.
Any advice on how i can help him? Well i mean like i was thinking getting him started on protection meditations and then maybe like affirming that each of the planets in his twelfth house are affecting him in a positive way, (each planet seperatley of course). Or would that be too much for my little guy to handle?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@... wrote:

It requires helluva lot of *spiritual* work so as to reach the hidden depths. My guess: the 12th House has been branded "the house of self-undoing" because spirituality has been aggressively suppressed, and it is / may be this very reason that people were unable to fully reach the depths of their own abyss to find the hidden light (strong aura sublimates negativity).

Sco is death, transformation and intensity so this may add, should the person have some planets in Sco and in the 12th. In other words, this person can either screw him/herself big time OR... :]

The fact of your son having those planets there means only that he has to work on his self-development. VE is strong, but ME quite the opposite (in exile), however, this MAY imply that your son can have tremendous psychic potential which HAS to be channelled - TAMED I'd dare to say. Bear in mind, Neptune (Pis - domicile/home sign/sign of dignity) is strong, so this may add to you son's escapistic tendencies (either fantasies OR worse - drugs, alcohol and whatnot).

Pedagogically speaking, I'd direct your son to hard facts (preventing escapism, not to mention blocking angelic filth), so that he can be grounded (occultism can be explained physically/logically). This is of utmost importance. And above all you must not worry but as I said, encourage him to evolve

Hope it helped a little bit.

Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "satansbabi" <satansbabi@ wrote:

Why is the stellium in the 12th house the worst? Or are the planets only harder to handle if you have a stellium in scorpio in the 12th house? Im confused. My 6 yr old son has a stellium im pisces in the 12th house. 0° venus, 18° mercury and 12° uranus. This worries me.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguarddraconis" <drammanoth@ wrote:

Inconjunct is a minor aspect, so up to 2 or 3 degrees of orb.

Conjunction and opposition is up to 9, sextile 5 deg, square up to 8, and trine up to 7.


Salvere!

Siguard Draconis.

SATANAS VIA, VERA ET VITA EST.
AVE LUCIFERIS OMNIPOTENS ET DEORUM SAMBUCUS!!
VAE OMNIS TRADITOR!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "ancientgods" <ancientgods@ wrote:

I am wondering about the YOD aspects. How many deegrees are considered a tight aspect and how many a large aspect ?
I am no expert or lesser aspects then I think that inconjunct can have its effects within 5 degrees or so.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@ wrote:



I am short on time so I will answer several questions asked here at once.

The inconjunct is an aspect of adjustment in some way. It is a major aspect, I have found. For example, when someone has a baby, especially the first child [major life change], often, along with other heavy transiting and progressed aspects, there is also a planet making an inconjunct. Say someone has a slow moving planet placed natally in his/her fifth house of children, such as uranus, not always, but many times, transiting uranus will make an inconjunct to that person's ruler, when a first child is born. This is just an example.

The yod configuration, as I mentioned in another post in the main JoS group, is found in the charts of those who are here for a purpose. This is not to say that everyone who has a yod is here for a purpose, but everyone who IS here for a purpose has the yod. The yod is a single planet making inconjunts to two planets in sextile aspect to each other. There can also be more planets tying in, but that is a classic yod. This can also involve the ascendant/decendant axis, which is this lines up exactly, is very prominent, as to the person being here for a purpose. Now, what the yod heans is at some point in the person's life, an adjustment will be needed in the area of a life change so that the person can carry out what they were meant to do here. After years of preparation and learning, when the person is ready, he/she will experience a life change where adaptation to the new changes will be needed. Once this has occurred, he/she will then be locked in and
can only go forward with the fated life. The tighter the yod [more exact the aspects], the more important the role.

Now, as for 0 and 1 degree being used in prediction, this is most often used in solar and other planetary returns. For example, 0-1 degrees of cardinal signs are exceptionally critical, then there are critical degrees. These are based upon the manions of the moon in Vedic astrology and are very accurate. As for Vedic astrology, I have found many of their interpretations to be inaccurate, as with the use of the sidearal zodiac, but as for the foundations of this- benefic and malefic planets, houses and such, by blending with Western astrology, much more can be interpreted and redicated with accuracy.

Now, for example, say someone has solar return mars in ther solar return at 0 degrees of aries, with SR aries on the cusp of the seventh house of marriage/partnerships. Because this is an exceptionally critical degree, one can be assured within the year for that solar return, a new love relationship or interest will manifest, or a major commitment in an already established one. This is only one. Years of a new major love relationship of sigificance have many more aspects involved and if the couple move in together, then there are aspects to the fourth house, planets in the fourth and so on. Many of these will be on critical degrees, signifying that the affairs ruled by the houses that these planets rule, will be emphasized during the year of the solar return.

SR pluto in the first house of the SR return indicates a 'first' in one's life, such as a firts child being born or something significant that one has never experienced before.

Planets near the angles and on critical degrees in a natal chart indicate certain areas of the life

Concerning the question on the 8th house- 'saturn' is not the natural ruler of the eighth house. It is scorpio. Each house has several different areas of rulership/emphasis in the life. The eighth is sex, death, joint finances, and debts. It is also the house of intensity and planets placed therein have a more emotional effect in the life as to the houses they rule. It is also the house of power. Eva Braun had a void of course moon ruling her seventh house of marriage, placed in her eighth house. Ruler of the 7th in the 8th often indicates one being married to someone in a position of power and the added void of course moon, indicated one in a million- Adolf Hitler. This was unique to her chart.

One with a stellium [grouping of three or more planets] as you describe is often present in the chart of a natual mage, as is a stellium in scorpio. This comes from a past life in developing the soul, but is difficult to handle because of the intense feelings and emotions it produces along with a very strong need for frequent sex or a sexual outlet and if it is not handled properly through direction and meditation in this life, it can destroy [pluto/scorpio]. What this means is in a past life, the owner of this reached a certain point in the development of the mind, then died. This is still on the soul and unfortunately, because most of our former lives are forgotten, the powers there are not put to use unless the one who has them is again drawn to the occult and takes up power meditation, where this was left off in the former life. Usually, at some point, a former mage will be drawn to the occult and often self-learning regarding meditation and
spirituality and when directed, this is most positive to have.

I have noted two examples of this gift, both born on the very same day. Olympic gymnast Nadia Comaneci, who had the Scorpio stellium and its driving intensity to go to the top and make history with 7 perfect scores at the Olympic games 1976 Montréal at 14 years of age- no one before had ever done this, and to change gymnastics forever. She channeled this obsessive energy into athletics, which was very positive for her and took her to the top.

Another person who was a co-worker years ago, I did his chart, he was born the very same day, November 12, 1961; and did nothing to direct the potent energies of the Scorpio stellium, as he let his sexual obsessions destroy him, as this stellium can influence one to overdoing things. He stayed in the men's locker-room for 18 hours at a health club where he worked at, voyeurism and masturbating, which was blatant to others who complained, and was canned from his job there. He also had other destructive behavior, as he would lay in the tanning booths for over an hour until he had purple slabs on his skin and smelled like he was cooked. His stellium was out of control and never directed or channeled in his life. He was ruined by it.

In Vedic astrology, there are three houses which can be unfortunate and this proves true- the sixth, the eighth and the twelfth. Planets therein should be directed through awareness and meditation so that their positive qualities are manifested instead of the negative ones. Planets in these three houses are more difficult to handle, the twelfth being the worst, then the 6th and the 8th.

For those of you who are young and in this group, just know that through Satan and meditation, bad things in the chart can be sublimated. No chart is perfect and everyone has his/her saturn among other things. Knowing the potential bad things in your chart gives you a powerful too in changing these, something those who are without do not have.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org