Amanita Muscaria

[Slavic]

Have any of you heard about treatment with the amanita muscaria mushroom? If so, could someone say more? There are generally a lot of positive opinions that it can help in recovery from various diseases.

 

[Aarti]

as a doctor, I would not advise you to consume any mushrooms you find in outdoor. most of them can be very misleading. you may face irreversible options. it may be better to consult a herbalist. but you should be very careful.

 

[Aarti]

it contains several toxic compounds, including muscimol and ibotenic acid, which are neurotoxic and affect the central nervous system.
it may cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, dizziness, hallucinations, muscle twitching, and loss of coordination. In some cases, poisoning can be severe and require medical intervention. some traditional preparation methods, such as drying or boiling, can reduce the toxicity of the mushroom. however, these methods are not entirely safe and require expert knowledge

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

This is poisonous. I guess people like the feeling of being horribly sick. Whatever reactions people claim to have is just their reaction to being poisoned.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Consuming hallucinogenic drugs indifferently that are of synthetic or natural origin only seriously damage your health and do not provide any spiritual benefit.

 

[SaqqaraNox]

I know mushrooms very well. Amanita muscaria is also called the evil ovum (at least in Italy) and is a hallucinogenic mushroom. Many people say that if you remove the top part of the mushroom (the red one with the white dots to be clear) and boil it for many hours, the toxins are removed. This is not true. There is not enough evidence for this. And even if it were true, it would make no sense to consume a mushroom that has been cooked for many, many hours (because the nutrients have thus lost their functionality).

So avoid this mushroom and leave it in the woods where it sets so well.

 

[Slavic]

Thank you all for your reply. I also thought it wasn't the best idea. My brother found many opinions and believed that this was the solution to the problems. I have no intention of touching it myself, I intend to solve my health problems using energy work.

 

[BlackOnyx8 [JG]]

I've heard about treatments with mushrooms that contain psilocybin, which have different effects on the body. This is usually the type used by new agers for "healing" or whatever other nonsense people come up with these days. However, these effects, though different from those of Amanita Muscaria, are still technically "intoxication." In all mushroom books, these and any and all mushrooms used for "healing" are considered toxic for a reason.

 

[Henu the Great]

- If you really want to go ahead and use it for the experience, make sure you a have a specific goal for using them and a capable trip-sitter watching you so that you do not harm yourself or others.

I believe in the harm reduction communities they also emphasize the correct dosage. Too much of this mushroom can kill a person... And if not, it will be quite uncomfortable, to say the least.

 

[The_Bloom_OfDarkness]

Thank you all for your reply. I also thought it wasn't the best idea. My brother found many opinions and believed that this was the solution to the problems. I have no intention of touching it myself, I intend to solve my health problems using energy work.

As a Spiritual Satanist,
This is probably your wisest choice.
These extreme mind altering substances will induce a state called "Synesthesia" it is 100% obtainable through power meditation and the advantage of this is we have total and complete control. When these states are induced through extreme mind altering substances we don't have control and more than often it can put holes in auras as people build dependency to these substances to hit these "levels". Which in the end is a synthetic exprience so to say robbing you of life. It is extremely important to be in total and complete control over your own self; mind, body, and soul to do these things. That is what defines a powerful and very real satanist at the end of the day.

The CIA and US Government has already invested money on doing research on training their solders for psychic warfare which naturally induce this state of synesthesia. It's found those who hit these states are observable to be more pyshcic and highly intelligent.

"The experience of seeing sounds and crossing the senses is common with the use of psychedelic drugs such as LSD, though drug use induces synesthesia through artificial means and it cannot be controlled.

With drugs, the user is not in control, the drug is, and in self-empowerment and magickal practice, it is extremely important for the practitioner to always be in control through his/her own natural ability. Dependence on powerful mind altering substances creates weakness of character and also creates holes in the aura and a weakening of the astral body. I am not talking recreational marijuana use here, I am referring to dependence on powerful chemicals in order to reach an altered state as some mages have been known to do.

Synesthetic people are often very psychic and highly intelligent according to medical studies. CIA and U.S. Military psychics reported going through stages of synesthesia when performing extensive exercises to open their minds for psychic warfare. Synesthesia may happen with your first sound meditation or with practice. Close your eyes and note the colors, shapes and movements of the sounds. You should write this in your Book of Shadows/Black Book/journal if you keep one. You should put aside all thoughts and visions as you would for void meditation and try to 'see' the sound/s or music. In time, other senses can also come into play- what does it taste like? Smell like? The most common experience is to see the sounds, but don't put any limitations on yourself.

Natural synesthesia facilitates clairvoyance, clairaudience and other psychic abilities. Synesthesia can be a very beautiful experience and a rewarding session of meditation. The more pathways we open and empower in our brains, the more experiences and abilities we are able to have. We are no longer just using '5-10%' of our brains. To fully develop this ability, one should listen to a variety of music and also each day, take time out to listen and 'see' the sounds in one's environment. Like anything else, the more we use this ability, the stronger it becomes."

Source:

Sound Meditation

In conclusion regarding using substance. Stick with a solid meditation program (if you haven't already). Write down and observe any and all weaknesses and learn to turn those into strengths. Let's say you cannot get into a deep trance on your own. Write that down and make it goal start practicing each thing ontop of your regular program until you master it.

For more information you may or may not find useful for healing later down the road.

"Power meditation is a psychic cleaning house so to speak. When one begins a power meditation program, one can often expect repressed emotions to manifest, such as anger, hatred, rage, grief, and so forth. You may find yourself having upsetting thoughts and feelings and not knowing why these are occurring. These emotions can last up to a year or even longer, according to the intensity in which they were suppressed in your younger years. Many of us can't even remember these experiences, but our subconscious minds do. In time, suppressed emotions will be cleaned out and the soul will be able to advance and be much freer. One will find inner balance and peace"

Source:

Satanism and Power Meditation

"A deep trance makes it possible to access the subconscious mind and to program it as we see fit. The active left side of the brain blocks out any attempts to access the passive right side where the seat of the unconscious is. This is analogous to turning off the electricity to a room or a building in order to fix the wiring. The right side of the brain is where we can program our minds to manifest what we want in reality."

Source:

Trance

Sometimes it does help to even reread the basic information. There is going to be a lot of stuff we often read and forget. As a satanist myself who started off on this path there was things I read at first, forgot and then later exprienced it through direct wisdom and later reread and was THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE. On the plus side, it was more confirmation for me knowing that the JOS is well put together and actually solidified my faith even more. Because what I had read before, sometimes even skipped myself. It was already there posted on JOS that these things are likely to happen. As I was directly experiencing them. I also had the advantage to understand more in depth what was actually being said about many things on other levels as well. This is part of the human nature though. Sometimes we forget or sometimes we skim through missing important details because we are reading too fast. Keep up on your path and you will prevail, over coming any obstacle you endure.

Consistency is what defines a person. If you have to go back, go back and reread its completely harmless and more than often purely educational. Put your consistency towards growing and when people look at you 5 years from now. They won't even be able to recognize who you are. You'll have taken the initiative through your own will to define yourself.

Best of luck,

HAIL SATAN!!

 

[Epiphany]

If you investigate the entities promoting psychadelics, I bet you will find a fair few (((echoes))) behind them.

I saw an ad for a telehealth company that just prescribes ketamine "for depression", basically a monthly ketamine subscription. Looked at the founders and every single one was extremely jewish. Like straight out of temple in tel aviv jewish. Their names don't even try to look human.

 

[Henu the Great]

I try them maybe a dozen of times, I enjoyed that but I do not recommend, I pick them by myself, I fell nausea one time very bad but I eat them raw, other times I dried them In The oven.
This mushrooms was know to blow the cows stomach and kill the cows, also it was used by xamans or ancient herbalists for people with flys on their heads (kind of crazy), they absorb the heavy metals like many other mushrooms and the radioactive from the earth, I felt very strong first hours of eating the mushroom and then after I fell a Itense felling of relaxation and to sleep and rest, there is much to research about mushrooms, this one never gave me allucinations nor visuals. Some conventional medicines could be very harmful, so sometimes is good to use wild herbs and mushrooms as a alternative.

The following is a more accurate description.

Fly agarics are best known for the unpredictability of their effects. Depending on habitat and the amount ingested per body weight, effects can range from mild nausea and twitching to drowsiness, cholinergic crisis-like effects (low blood pressure, sweating and salivation), auditory and visual distortions, mood changes, euphoria, relaxation, ataxia, and loss of equilibrium (like with tetanus.)[54][55][58][60]

In cases of serious poisoning the mushroom causes delirium, somewhat similar in effect to anticholinergic poisoning (such as that caused by Datura stramonium), characterised by bouts of marked agitation with confusion, hallucinations, and irritability followed by periods of central nervous system depression. Seizures and coma may also occur in severe poisonings.[55][58] Symptoms typically appear after around 30 to 90 minutes and peak within three hours, but certain effects can last for several days.[33][57] In the majority of cases recovery is complete within 12 to 24 hours.[66] The effect is highly variable between individuals, with similar doses potentially causing quite different reactions.[54][57][84] Some people suffering intoxication have exhibited headaches up to ten hours afterwards.[57] Retrograde amnesia and somnolence can result following recovery.[58]

Amanita muscaria - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Is not poisonous if you take to much and if you don't prepared it correctly.

Well, that's a lie. Based on the above information this mushroom can kill, even though it is unlikely for an adult.

I don't think eat mushrooms make u a jew, it's a beautiful science for me

No one claimed this, but it is not encouraged anyway.

 

[SSJacob]

"is not poisonous if u don't take to much and if not prepared correctly" this is what I meant

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

Shit I writed wrong again "is not poisonous if u don't take to much and if prepared correctly" this is one of the side effects of eating mushrooms u get deslexic

This here is enough of an example why you should not do drugs. Don't encourage anyone to take strange substances, or experimental substances.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Why does there need to be so many replies here?

Don't eat a poisonous plant. It is not good to be poisoned. Just because you are likely to survive this type of poison does not mean that it is good.

 

[SSJacob]

This here is enough of an example why you should not do drugs. Don't encourage anyone to take strange substances, or experimental substances.

Understood, this is my personal experience

 

[SSJacob]

Why does there need to be so many replies here?

Don't eat a poisonous plant. It is not good to be poisoned. Just because you are likely to survive this type of poison does not mean that it is good.

What is the definition of poisonous?

 

[Aarti]

Coffe can kill u also, if u drink to much water u can drown also, I'm not encourage the mushroom, but also don't desencourage, if anyone wants to know what it is for real, must try but of course it is dangerous, I eat them and I fell good never gave me health problems but some of you never eat it and claim that is this and that.

mushrooms can be poisonous even when consumed in small quantities. amanita phalloides can lead to liver and kidney failure even when tried once. but this is almost impossible for water or coffee. you would have to consume really excessive amounts. the toxicity of mushrooms is strong and impressive even in very, very small quantities.
so the consumption of mushrooms has an effect in acute consumption, whereas for coffee and water chronic consumption is necessary. a very, very meaningless comparison.

Why does there need to be so many replies here?

Don't eat a poisonous plant. It is not good to be poisoned. Just because you are likely to survive this type of poison does not mean that it is good.

yes exactly

 

[Henu the Great]

"is not poisonous if u don't take to much and if not prepared correctly" this is what I meant

Amanita muscaria contains neurotoxins. This is a fact regardless of the dosage.

 

[SSJacob]

Thank u for the censorship

 

[SSJacob]

Delete my account also

 

[SSJacob]

First, this mushrooms is not even a drug for u guys justify the delete of my posts saying that I'm promoting drug use, second, sharing my experience is not promoting, that's what the guy ask for, opinions and experience.
Third is a lose of time I have to explain u guys this, and u also losing yours, how do u guys know that meditation works? Because u try?
Tell me someone that have died from this mushrooms, the quantity taken and the age of the patient

 

[SSJacob]

What are u guys doing on this planet still? Why are u not gods already? Arrogance should come from the Jews, whether I'm wrong or right I don't force anyone to believe on me, nor I censorship anyone, shouldn't free thinking be promoted? Otherwise there is no difference from u and the Jews, u just like them but upside down

 

[Henu the Great]

First, this mushrooms is not even a drug for u guys justify the delete of my posts saying that I'm promoting drug use, second, sharing my experience is not promoting, that's what the guy ask for, opinions and experience.
Third is a lose of time I have to explain u guys this, and u also losing yours, how do u guys know that meditation works? Because u try?
Tell me someone that have died from this mushrooms, the quantity taken and the age of the patient

Grow up and learn about the definitions you speak of and what these substances actually are.

Yes, sharing your experience in such a positive light even to the point of glamouring poisonous mushrooms is promoting drug usage.

Denying obvious, commonly known, and unrefutable facts just makes you look like a fool. Please quit it. Instead, educate yourself.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

What are u guys doing on this planet still? Why are u not gods already? Arrogance should come from the Jews, whether I'm wrong or right I don't force anyone to believe on me, nor I censorship anyone, shouldn't free thinking be promoted? Otherwise there is no difference from u and the Jews, u just like them but upside down

Censorship is never an ideal option and I can understand your frustration, however we have to balance this with protecting people from being led to do harmful things. Because our community is a spiritual one and therefore both it and drugs share a relationship to Pisces energy, we wish to avoid a situation where susceptible members are led into drug use.

Even if this mushroom is not as bad as other substances, the hallucinogenic or other properties could promote for delusions, weakness to the enemy, damage to the soul, and so on. That is why any posts which appeared to promote or suggest for someone to try it were deleted.

Although I don't believe you said this, another person was suggesting for people to get a trip-sitter and so on. This is all too far and we cannot support people tripping for the above reasons.

The end goal of this path certainly supports freedom and intelligence, but we have to be aware of our own limitations currently. We have lost too many to drugs because people experiment and they couldn't handle it. A 10 year SS may know techniques for stabilizing themselves, but a 1 year SS could easily get thrown off course. That is why we take a conservative attitude in regards to what should be allowed here. We want people to have stable growth in order to support higher degrees of learning.

I hope you understand and are able to look past this.

 

[Syt]

Censorship is never an ideal option and I can understand your frustration, however we have to balance this with protecting people from being led to do harmful things. Because our community is a spiritual one and therefore both it and drugs share a relationship to Pisces energy, we wish to avoid a situation where susceptible members are led into drug use.

Even if this mushroom is not as bad as other substances, the hallucinogenic or other properties could promote for delusions, weakness to the enemy, damage to the soul, and so on. That is why any posts which appeared to promote or suggest for someone to try it were deleted.

Although I don't believe you said this, another person was suggesting for people to get a trip-sitter and so on. This is all too far and we cannot support people tripping for the above reasons.

The end goal of this path certainly supports freedom and intelligence, but we have to be aware of our own limitations currently. We have lost too many to drugs because people experiment and they couldn't handle it. A 10 year SS may know techniques for stabilizing themselves, but a 1 year SS could easily get thrown off course. That is why we take a conservative attitude in regards to what should be allowed here. We want people to have stable growth in order to support higher degrees of learning.

I hope you understand and are able to look past this.

"Although I don't believe you said this, another person was suggesting for people to get a trip-sitter and so on."

I said this as I was speaking about the effects and dangers of Amanita and advocating for responsibility and safety not "drug use". And my post got deleted for "promoting drug use." This is a flat-out lie and a very insulting one at that.
Come on, bro Blitz.
I'm not here for any back-and-forth exchanges about this. If my post got deleted for "promoting drug-use" then kindly do us all a favor and delete my account too.

HS.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

"Although I don't believe you said this, another person was suggesting for people to get a trip-sitter and so on."

I said this as I was speaking about the effects and dangers of Amanita and advocating for responsibility and safety not "drug use". And my post got deleted for "promoting drug use." This is a flat-out lie and a very insulting one at that.
Come on, bro Blitz.
I'm not here for any back-and-forth exchanges about this. If my post got deleted for "promoting drug-use" then kindly do us all a favor and delete my account too.

HS.

Saying "Go do it but get somebody to watch you." Is very different from saying "Don't do it." This is directly promoting drug use by advising people with excuses to make them think "It will be ok as long as I get somebody to watch me."

Actual safety and responsibility is to say don't do it. What help is there for somebody to be in the room while your body and brain are suffering from the effects of a neurotoxin? It did not prevent the damage from being done.

 

[The_Bloom_OfDarkness]

First, this mushrooms is not even a drug for u guys justify the delete of my posts saying that I'm promoting drug use, second, sharing my experience is not promoting, that's what the guy ask for, opinions and experience.
Third is a lose of time I have to explain u guys this, and u also losing yours, how do u guys know that meditation works? Because u try?
Tell me someone that have died from this mushrooms, the quantity taken and the age of the patient

Have you read JOS? If so, why aren't you keeping it to yourself? JOS has already responded to this topic on "recreational drugs". You were already warned of the dangers, you even had people of a generous nature to take the time and spell it out for you. This area of satanism here pushes to promote the spiritual development WITHOUT these substances. If you decide to dabble around, that is your own choice, you reap what you sew. Just keep that shit to yourself. In the end you could easily see for yourself it's better without the severe mind altering substance. In a sense you are now going agaisnt the wishes of JOS.

"2. Recreational drug is your own business and your own judgement. Responsibility to the responsible. Spiritual Satanism advocates empowering the soul without the use of artificial stimulants or mind-altering substances, but this is up to the individual."

Source:

Spiritual Satanism for New People

What are u guys doing on this planet still? Why are u not gods already? Arrogance should come from the Jews, whether I'm wrong or right I don't force anyone to believe on me, nor I censorship anyone, shouldn't free thinking be promoted? Otherwise there is no difference from u and the Jews, u just like them but upside down

If you are here to learn, grow and say you are part of JOS. Doing what I see above, is not it. Attacking your own brothers and sisters because you think you know something.

I'll tell you what. The Clergy Of JOS are far beyond your years of knowledge and practice. The same meditation practices you follow, the same rituals you've partaken in and exprienced results that you got from these pages. They were put together by the guidance by the gods and goddesses through the Clergy. This is also the same Clergy who's originally saying its better to advance without because it does more harm than good in the long run. You know, they aren't pulling this out of their ass.

Show some respect instead of throwing a temper tantrum. Some advanced members here are already feeling they are wasting their time reaponding.. i know i would too, but they are still here trying because they care. They are grateful of the blessings the gods have given and wish to pay that back and its become part of their dream to see the rest of humanity nourish the same, if not then they wish to see better.. and it's these same people you are now attacking. Trying to belittle and make seem inferior. That they aren't good enough.

Just think about it.. to say they aren't much of anything because they're telling you to stop promoting drug use when JOS clearly specifies that spiritual Satanism promotes the growth without these things. They are following what JOS says which is What the clergy has given to us as gifts. Which is a slap in the face to the clergy themselves!! Is having any form of structure that much of a problem to you?

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

"Although I don't believe you said this, another person was suggesting for people to get a trip-sitter and so on."

I said this as I was speaking about the effects and dangers of Amanita and advocating for responsibility and safety not "drug use". And my post got deleted for "promoting drug use." This is a flat-out lie and a very insulting one at that.
Come on, bro Blitz.
I'm not here for any back-and-forth exchanges about this. If my post got deleted for "promoting drug-use" then kindly do us all a favor and delete my account too.

HS.

Your post was well-written and I knew you intended it to be responsible, but because it concludes on a point that could ultimately lead someone to do it, that is why it was deleted with the above reason.

 

[Syt]

Your post was well-written and I knew you intended it to be responsible, but because it concludes on a point that could ultimately lead someone to do it, that is why it was deleted with the above reason.

It's all cool then.
I appreciate the explanation.

 

[SSJacob]

Grow up and learn about the definitions you speak of and what these substances actually are.

Yes, sharing your experience in such a positive light even to the point of glamouring poisonous mushrooms is promoting drug usage.

Denying obvious, commonly known, and unrefutable facts just makes you look like a fool. Please quit it. Instead, educate yourself.

I hope I will always grow up on my life In many fields and as a person, henu the great the most narcissistic selt entitled name in the jos.

 

[SSJacob]

I got no time to this

 

[SSJacob]

Have you read JOS? If so, why aren't you keeping it to yourself? JOS has already responded to this topic on "recreational drugs". You were already warned of the dangers, you even had people of a generous nature to take the time and spell it out for you. This area of satanism here pushes to promote the spiritual development WITHOUT these substances. If you decide to dabble around, that is your own choice, you reap what you sew. Just keep that shit to yourself. In the end you could easily see for yourself it's better without the severe mind altering substance. In a sense you are now going agaisnt the wishes of JOS.

"2. Recreational drug is your own business and your own judgement. Responsibility to the responsible. Spiritual Satanism advocates empowering the soul without the use of artificial stimulants or mind-altering substances, but this is up to the individual."

Source:

Spiritual Satanism for New People

If you are here to learn, grow and say you are part of JOS. Doing what I see above, is not it. Attacking your own brothers and sisters because you think you know something.

I'll tell you what. The Clergy Of JOS are far beyond your years of knowledge and practice. The same meditation practices you follow, the same rituals you've partaken in and exprienced results that you got from these pages. They were put together by the guidance by the gods and goddesses through the Clergy. This is also the same Clergy who's originally saying its better to advance without because it does more harm than good in the long run. You know, they aren't pulling this out of their ass.

Show some respect instead of throwing a temper tantrum. Some advanced members here are already feeling they are wasting their time reaponding.. i know i would too, but they are still here trying because they care. They are grateful of the blessings the gods have given and wish to pay that back and its become part of their dream to see the rest of humanity nourish the same, if not then they wish to see better.. and it's these same people you are now attacking. Trying to belittle and make seem inferior. That they aren't good enough.

Just think about it.. to say they aren't much of anything because they're telling you to stop promoting drug use when JOS clearly specifies that spiritual Satanism promotes the growth without these things. They are following what JOS says which is What the clergy has given to us as gifts. Which is a slap in the face to the clergy themselves!! Is having any form of structure that much of a problem to you?

Who invited you to the conversation? Can u call the holy pope?
Who's being attacked is ke

 

[SSJacob]

Who's being attacked is me, I didn't I'm inocent leave me alone, because of the mushroom

 

[SSJacob]

Censorship is never an ideal option and I can understand your frustration, however we have to balance this with protecting people from being led to do harmful things. Because our community is a spiritual one and therefore both it and drugs share a relationship to Pisces energy, we wish to avoid a situation where susceptible members are led into drug use.

Even if this mushroom is not as bad as other substances, the hallucinogenic or other properties could promote for delusions, weakness to the enemy, damage to the soul, and so on. That is why any posts which appeared to promote or suggest for someone to try it were deleted.

Although I don't believe you said this, another person was suggesting for people to get a trip-sitter and so on. This is all too far and we cannot support people tripping for the above reasons.

The end goal of this path certainly supports freedom and intelligence, but we have to be aware of our own limitations currently. We have lost too many to drugs because people experiment and they couldn't handle it. A 10 year SS may know techniques for stabilizing themselves, but a 1 year SS could easily get thrown off course. That is why we take a conservative attitude in regards to what should be allowed here. We want people to have stable growth in order to support higher degrees of learning.

I hope you understand and are able to look past this.

I'm not promoting, each one knows what it does

 

[SSJacob]

Have you read JOS? If so, why aren't you keeping it to yourself? JOS has already responded to this topic on "recreational drugs". You were already warned of the dangers, you even had people of a generous nature to take the time and spell it out for you. This area of satanism here pushes to promote the spiritual development WITHOUT these substances. If you decide to dabble around, that is your own choice, you reap what you sew. Just keep that shit to yourself. In the end you could easily see for yourself it's better without the severe mind altering substance. In a sense you are now going agaisnt the wishes of JOS.

"2. Recreational drug is your own business and your own judgement. Responsibility to the responsible. Spiritual Satanism advocates empowering the soul without the use of artificial stimulants or mind-altering substances, but this is up to the individual."

Source:

Spiritual Satanism for New People

If you are here to learn, grow and say you are part of JOS. Doing what I see above, is not it. Attacking your own brothers and sisters because you think you know something.

I'll tell you what. The Clergy Of JOS are far beyond your years of knowledge and practice. The same meditation practices you follow, the same rituals you've partaken in and exprienced results that you got from these pages. They were put together by the guidance by the gods and goddesses through the Clergy. This is also the same Clergy who's originally saying its better to advance without because it does more harm than good in the long run. You know, they aren't pulling this out of their ass.

Show some respect instead of throwing a temper tantrum. Some advanced members here are already feeling they are wasting their time reaponding.. i know i would too, but they are still here trying because they care. They are grateful of the blessings the gods have given and wish to pay that back and its become part of their dream to see the rest of humanity nourish the same, if not then they wish to see better.. and it's these same people you are now attacking. Trying to belittle and make seem inferior. That they aren't good enough.

Just think about it.. to say they aren't much of anything because they're telling you to stop promoting drug use when JOS clearly specifies that spiritual Satanism promotes the growth without these things. They are following what JOS says which is What the clergy has given to us as gifts. Which is a slap in the face to the clergy themselves!! Is having any form of structure that much of a problem to you?

U the kind that clean the boss ass if he ask u to do it

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

"Although I don't believe you said this, another person was suggesting for people to get a trip-sitter and so on."

I said this as I was speaking about the effects and dangers of Amanita and advocating for responsibility and safety not "drug use". And my post got deleted for "promoting drug use." This is a flat-out lie and a very insulting one at that.
Come on, bro Blitz.
I'm not here for any back-and-forth exchanges about this. If my post got deleted for "promoting drug-use" then kindly do us all a favor and delete my account too.

HS.

These kinds of things, drugs, mushrooms, whatever kinds of substances with mind altering effects, are simply not to be promoted, not even in a lukewarm manner on the forum here.

There is no need for anyone to take them, there is no benefit to any of these things, it has no purpose in spirituality nor any other purpose, so it has no place here.

It is good that you advocated for responsibility, however the responsible thing here is to advice never to use or ingest these substances at all, because of the obvious and verifiable toxicity of these, as well as the above mentioned reasons by JG Blitz.

People are very impressionable, and people are often very stupid. I have done drugs when I was younger, and despite that I am indeed fine now, no harm was done long term, (because I stopped very soon after and never took anything long term or often), however if I could advice my past self, I would slap my ignorant teen age self for my bad decisions until it got through to never take these kinds of things again, rather than advocate for responsibility towards the use of things a human should not use.

Mushrooms like this, they are toxic as any drugs are, even if mild, it doesn't change this, the responsible thing is to never take them.

Anything less is simply irresponsible advice and can incentivize people to try or experiment, in order to see for themselves by believing they are making a responsible choice since they are choosing to experiment themselves after outweighing the risks and benefits, when in reality this is nothing more than a stupid decision stemming from ignorance and foolishness.

This was me when I was young. People told me drugs were bad, but to be responsible if I were to ever take them, which is just ridiculous.

Guess what I did? I took them anyway even after knowing they were dangerous, thinking I could be responsible and not take too much or whatever, because I was told to be responsible if I do take them, to be careful. Blah blah blah, it is nonsense. This would not happen if nobody had ever given my immature teen age mind a lukewarm impression towards drugs.

One should never take them and there is nothing like responsible recreational drug use, it is just stupid.

Therefore, this kind of talk is simply not for the forums here.

 

[Henu the Great]

I hope I will always grow up on my life In many fields and as a person, henu the great the most narcissistic selt entitled name in the jos.

Just goes to show you have no substance about this topic when you have to resort to pathetic insults.

 

[SSJacob]

It wasn't my intention to promote any drug

 

[SSJacob]

Censorship is never an ideal option and I can understand your frustration, however we have to balance this with protecting people from being led to do harmful things. Because our community is a spiritual one and therefore both it and drugs share a relationship to Pisces energy, we wish to avoid a situation where susceptible members are led into drug use.

Even if this mushroom is not as bad as other substances, the hallucinogenic or other properties could promote for delusions, weakness to the enemy, damage to the soul, and so on. That is why any posts which appeared to promote or suggest for someone to try it were deleted.

Although I don't believe you said this, another person was suggesting for people to get a trip-sitter and so on. This is all too far and we cannot support people tripping for the above reasons.

The end goal of this path certainly supports freedom and intelligence, but we have to be aware of our own limitations currently. We have lost too many to drugs because people experiment and they couldn't handle it. A 10 year SS may know techniques for stabilizing themselves, but a 1 year SS could easily get thrown off course. That is why we take a conservative attitude in regards to what should be allowed here. We want people to have stable growth in order to support higher degrees of learning.

I hope you understand and are able to look past this.

I do understand very well, thank u for your time explain it