Afterlife questions and can someone leave Satan accidentally?

[kieithnightmare0]

Can someone leave him on accident? Like make a stupid choice but still want to be with him after? If so, does he still take their souls to hell? The souls that have left him, but did the dedication? Or people that he leaves because of whatever reason, but did the dedication/are dedicted despite him leaving them (I mean, you gotta make serious mistakes if he leaves you)? Do they go to hell too? Or does he just leave their soul to be ripped apart by the enemy after death?

 

[kieithnightmare0]

Also, does he help those who are without who do the RTRS? Or does he just let the enemy do whatever the enemy wants to them?

 

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Father Satan leaves those who wish to leave him (most of the time they come back begging him to take them back) and those who go against him.
If you do something stupid, but you didn't know that Father Satan doesn't like that, he will forgive you. He knows that you didn't do that intentionaly.

I'm not sure that there are any people who do RTRs and are without.I'm not really sure why would you fight for Satan and not dedicate. I imagine he protects them, but I'm not sure

 

[devilsAdvocate Nic]

If you do something stupid, but you didn't know that Father Satan doesn't like that, he will forgive you. He knows that you didn't do that intentionaly. Nononono? satanism is nothing like xtianity.
Which is a constant talk of punishment and forgiveness.  Ppfff!!! Yes, Satan does, and he can punish. 
He has all the power to. But for all the while I have been a Satanist I can not say that he has ever punished me. Not in three years,  and yet am anything and everything but a perfect Satanist,  I blunder alot.  Most of the times I dnt even feel the need to apologize. 
Surely- what is my apology to him, it's of what use. Mistakes or wrong doing is of a human nature, but what Satan what's me to do more than anything is to learn from them.  He wouldn't give shit whether I apologize or not, but he very much cares for me not to repeat the same mistake or anything related to it.  That's what he wants,  the betterment of myself. And when I make the same mistake again he still will not punish me.  He will instead remind me of what am supposed to do. And expects me to learn all over again For example, 
Am trapped in a very negative relationship with girl. She is as exceptionally stupid as she is beautiful.
She both wrongs me and at the same time loves me.  She hurts me, but not on purpose, like I said.... Shes just stupid plain....it's hard to explain. Satan warned me to stay away from her even before she ever really did anything to hurt me.  I immediately hated the idea. But I have gone through so much,  endured so much pain because of the girl. I have tried to stay way from her for a year and a half, I leave her and make promises to myself that I wont talk to her ever again. And then I run back to her all over again. Am quite certain that my obsession with this negative human being,  a relationship that disorients me totally and completely- I dnt think it pleases Satan.  But I also dnt see how apologizing to him will help my cause... More least... I dnt see how his forgiveness will help me keep me way from her. Iam a loner,  I can spend the entire day all by myself and I would be fine.  I really dnt need much companionship. I need just her...
I dnt understand how I can want someone who hurts so badly but... I do. 
Wen I leave her I dream abt her, I feel like her presence compleats me.  I can not see beyond life with her... The times wen she makes me happy rr everything to me.  I love her and I feel like I have always I loved her. But...  There's a but... I have never felt sexual attraction for the same sex,  not with anyone but her... So l dnt even know whether am bisexual. I love boys too. And I get a fair quota of there attention, but none of them pleases me like she does. It's all absurd really... When father tells me that iam in unhealthy relationship, negative even, it's quite clear to me and I accept it.
But always fail to keep the promise to myself to leave her...
A thought ran in my mind, that since I can't keep the promise to stay away from her to myself... Then I should make it to father Satan.
That I would keep it out of respect to him.... Wired... I know.... Well I manged to keep the promise for at least three month... I broke my promise of recent wen I invited her to my birthday.  And then regretted it immediately. So I made up an excuse to keep her from coming.  She was all too willing.  Because she loves me to. But she hurts me... I dnt hurt her... I wouldn't... I have just texted her today mrng because she posted a something sad on her kik.  I know I shouldn't have.. But I felt for, NB
Abt apologizing and forgiveness
Idn't see how any of that can help my situation. But whenever I make this mistake of going back to her l learn something of relationship and how to relate with people...
It breaks my hurt every time that I leave her but it makes my hurt harder.. Stronger.... I guess. But always keeping in mind... It's better of if I stay away from her... And as of apologizing... My being with her is nothing to Satan,  it does not affect him.  None of his laws prohibited the relationship so it doesn't offend him. It's me that it affects.  He does not warn me against her out of superiority,  but for love and care. So what's the point of apologizing  when I break my promise en go back to her... And what's the point of forgiveness... I cud ryt abt this all day... But the main point is... There's not much we can do to offend Satan
He has no book of laws that say dnt do this... Or that... Dnt drink... Dnt eat pork... Dnt have lots of sex.... Dnt sleep with a fellow girl.... All that kind of shit.

On Oct 19, 2017 3:14 PM, "desert392@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  Father Satan leaves those who wish to leave him (most of the time they come back begging him to take them back) and those who go against him.
If you do something stupid, but you didn't know that Father Satan doesn't like that, he will forgive you. He knows that you didn't do that intentionaly.

I'm not sure that there are any people who do RTRs and are without.I'm not really sure why would you fight for Satan and not dedicate. I imagine he protects them, but I'm not sure

 

[devilsAdvocate Nic]

Hhmm?... Where to start.... I really dnt understand what one would mean by leaving Satan... Most especially after the dedication  of the soul. Is it where you denounce him en go back to church... Or stop beliving in him and his demons.. Idk really...  But I wouldn't consider that as leaving him...  I mean, you may think you have left him by doing things contrary to his path... But... There is just no way.  First and foremost,  I mean from what I have learned, a dedication of the soul to Satan is eternal. It's forever and for ever always. There's just nothing one can do anger father Satan to denouncing him/her, or "leaving the person" as most usually call it. That would really be extreme... And I dnt imagine father to be that... petty. Lol Now,  secondly...
I dedicated my soul to father Satan at the age of 18, and now am 21.
The main point here is the 18yrs of indoctrination.  Raised as a muslim in an African country, there rr just no words to truly sample the spiritual slavery and degeneration that I underwent.  And also being a girl.
I was programmed to hate,  fear and blame father  Satan for every unfortunate thing in this world. FOR 18yrs. And I have only had 3-4yrs to re-program my mind. At this point I know a lot, and I know wayyyy batter.
But back then,  at the Genesis of my spiritual journey I did not,  I was scared and I was alone.  Just the idea that Allah is not really God but Shaitan is God baffled me.
So here is were I get to tell you that I fell off the wagon now and then,  I ran back to Allah now and then,  I cried from the truth now and then,  and I denounced Satan from fear and ran back to the mosque now and then. Hehe,  it's actually funny thinking about it now.
But really I dnt see why Satan would "leave me" just  because I was in a state of kwagme...confusion. 
And he never left me,  not once,  I felt his presence and guidance even when I cursed him thinking he was trying to corrupt me. The main point here is that father is wayyyy too big for that... His understanding and love is wayyyy beyond that.  I BELIEVE THERE IS NOT A SINGLE THING ONE CAN DO FOR SATAN TO DESERT OR DENOUNCE HIM/HER.  NOTHING. However as for angering him... There is not much really,  but a few... At least those i know in regards to what he has made known to me. Satan hates ignorant souls that chose to remain ignorant. He hates those who rr taught but refuse to learn. He REALLY hates weakness combined with laziness. He is really big on that one. And rr...I can't think of anything else as of now. NB
Satan can't- will not leave anyone... However, imagine he would be somewhat indifferent to those who constantly prove unworthy of his attention. And he can punish those who mock him.  And why not... He is God.  Like said in the Aljilwah that he gives and takes away,  and bless those who honour and rr under his image.  But that punishing is here on earth,  not some spiritual purgatory that is brimming with wild fire.. As For leaving him on "accident"... hihi,  that's funny.
Sorry.  I love to laugh.  (I mean, you gotta make serious mistakes if he leaves you)?  Like what?  If so, does he still take their souls to hell? The souls that have left him, but did the dedication? Now that one is a little bit tricky for me... In regards to the matters of the afterlife. I still need to get my facts ryt... But I will throw some light on that which I know for sure. According to your entire post I fathom you speak of hell in some sort of xtian context. Idk.  My English is not all that good. Am not going to talk about hell, but am going to tell you what happens to a soul after death. I read some abt the fourth dimension. Which is the Astral. And it's here...on earth, Or everywhere...
It's the dimension where spirit 's exist. Quote-not demons- but spirits. 
However demons just use the Astral to communicate with us...I think... Leaving demons alone... My main point is, once a human being dies the soul goes to the Astral...it is like the spiritual space,  that one can not see if they rr not advanced.
But it's all around us. Wen the soul leaves the body_most likely_ NOTHING HAPPENS.
More specifically for those who rr not dedicated,  xtian or not.
Nothing happens.  The soul is trapped in an inert state,  left to wonder the Astral purposeless, roaming for a somewhile,  until father Satan reincarnates such a Soul once again.  YES.  Satan does reincarnate undedicated souls. Yet for those who rr dedicated,  they rr protected,  they rr welcomed into the Astral and guided to a safe... Place... By demons of Satan.
And am not yet sure if that place is hell.  But I once read in a sermon where where Maxine visited hell... And that she saw souls that were waiting for reincarnation.... Now I imagine obviously they had to be dedicated souls. Um mm huh...
Now  speaking of protection.  Hmmm? The Astral is not entirely safe I imagine,  roaming with all sorts of spirits, and not just souls of the deceased.  So obviously there's need of protection from that which you may know nothing of. And among those, rr the angels on the Astral.  Yes.  That dirty fifth could very likely come around too when a person dies.
But these usually come to very very staunch xtian. Because these rr reeking with negative energy that they so very much love to feed on. So since the soul it's self is a form of energy they can devour it completely and one can cease to exist totally and for ever.  There's nothing left for Satan to reincarnate. NOTHING? My brother,  or sister that Is why I always recommend a dedication. That's my personal understanding of what I have read from the joS.  and a few which I have mediated on to understand. I hope it helps your cause in one way or another, but I really recommend that you do research of your own. I apologize for where I have not made sense,  English is no my first language,  so I write the way I speak. Hail father Satan
Hail all hell Devil'sAdvocate  nic
Dark blessings



  Can someone leave him on accident? Like make a stupid choice but still want to be with him after? If so, does he still take their souls to hell? The souls that have left him, but did the dedication? Or people that he leaves because of whatever reason, but did the dedication/are dedicted despite him leaving them (I mean, you gotta make serious mistakes if he leaves you)? Do they go to hell too? Or does he just leave their soul to be ripped apart by the enemy after death?

 

[kieithnightmare0]

Thank you all for the replies! I'm sorry I freak out so much, you all have been very helpful

 

[kinghenrythefowler]

I personally pledge not to judge. Well maybe if you hit someone's dog in your car and failed to stop I might tell you it was a bad thing to do and you should send them a letter or something. The ideal for the groups I think is for them to be a welcoming and friendly place for Satanist to get spiritual help. So maybe if you're just nervous you should just say it and ignore the negative comments.

 

[bringiton79]

The enemy wants to mess with you to keep you in a confused panicked and messed up State of Mind I'm going to post this post of Aldricks for for you to use I hope it helpsHere's a quote from the Bhagavad Gita that calms me fear not what is not real never was and never will be what Israel always was and cannot be destroyed
 Everyone should be doing some form of protection. This helps everyone as we are all connected. When we deflect the enemy off of us, it deflects their attacks off of all of us, do not underestimate this. Further more the affirmations state that they are deflecting Bindings, I have noticed there are thoughtforms sent by the enemy to Bind that fly off of the soul when this is performed. 
Please Read Errant Thoughtforms. When you empower your soul, you actually empower negative thoughtforms, they must be burned off. 
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... forms.html

Now, For the Working. 
http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/1_26_17.htm

1.Raise your energies. This is best done [as with all magickal workings] when you are at your most powerful, feeling a strong energy buzz. If you are new, just do the best you can. You can also use the energy of the Sun as indicated in the above to raise your energies with reciting SURYA, using a Satanic rosary [or anything that will help you keep count]
2.Clean your aura thoroughly, as instructed from Part 1 of Returning Curses. DO NOT hesitate to ask for a Demon/ess to help you. Even if you cannot hear, sense or see the Demon/ess, know He/She is there and is helping you, and delivering the energies back to the sender/s.
3.Engulf yourself in the light. Again, I repeat, if at all possible, use the Sun. Another effective tactic, if you are unable to use the Sun and have trouble visualizing is to use a lamp, with the bright bulb facing you, shining right in your face as you close your eyes and visualize the light.
4. Affirm 18 times: “My aura is constantly and continuously deflecting and repelling any and all negative energies, curses, bindings, hatred and destructive energy directed at me and is immediately returning these directly right back to the sender.”
You can even do a full rosary, vibrating SURYA [Satan told me 216 times is more effective than 108], and to do this, just reach the last bead on your rosary and then turn it back. I have worked with this and it is very effective.



 Aldrick Strickland  www.JoyofSatan.com  www.666BlackSun.com  http://gbltthulesociety666.angelfire.com/about/

 

[Anonymous]

That is because there is a difference between a Civilian vs a Soldier.  Just as there is a difference between a Child vs an Adult.

What I think the God meant was you are not ready to cross that "boundry" into the true area of warfare.  Define it however you want, as I believe and have witnessed that average people, and to greater degree people dedicated to a Satanic system will have a certain level of protection.  Sort of like a Safe place as Astral Temple grounds.  Out in the real world (non-protected space) where God's do battle for various reasons it requires a certain mindset, a certain level of power and the right setup and even connections to make it.

Reverse Torah Rituals, and reverse anything, as well as Aura's of Protection do not count as being a Soldier.  All they do is reinforce and protect your safe space.  A Satanic Soldiers mentallity is different.  They KILL with Black Magick like it is 1st/2nd nature.  They also have various Wisdoms and Abilities that validate this reality and lifestyle.  They have to live like this, because the truth out there is not nice.  A Soldier is more aggressive and does not always hide behind "The Shield." A Soldier takes risks and is a Predator who conquers their For to secure his/her Future.  A Soldier, likewise will also do this "on Command" from a Superior Ally in rank in a group, thus a Soldier knows the importance of Obedience and working togethor and when to think and act on their own. 

This from what you wrote is what I believe they meant.  All the activities I have seen thus far around here simply means there are different "Divisions" within Satanism where you sound like a Civillian Satanist to me.  Would you pick up a rifle to defend your country?  Would you also do the same bloody deed through Black Magick and not even flinch at the prospect of things like karma?  How you approach these is how the God's will interact with you on this. 

Was it an enemy?  I don't know...but the God's are busy so cannot always be bothered.  So keep this in mind.

On Oct 30, 2017, at 1:02 PM, "pinkteabunny@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  What if someone does something against him but you felt it was unintentional? I think it's time I reveal why I've asked this question.

In case I don't post in the groups/forums anymore, this is what happened:
I had a misunderstanding with another God who said something along the lines of "you're not a soldier" (I think I misheard it??) recently and I freaked out because I do so much warfare...not even joking. My emotional reactions are intense btw. I cry, my brain goes a 10 miles a second and I have trouble calming down. When I did calm down and ask for clarification, it felt like they didn't want to answer me after that freak out. So I panicked more.

Mind you I've been working on my clairaudience points for a year and they are barely opening. So obviously I can't hear everything (my own fault). I went somewhere with a friend that day and did online warfare almost the whole time on my phone. Practically begging Satan internally to not leave me. This has happened a few times already regrettably. I misunderstand, I panic, it feels like he left, I cry and beg, things are ok for a while....then another misunderstanding happens...repeat.

This tIme though, I swore I wouldn't be bothersome. I broke that promise and bothered Satan almost the whole day in a panic..begging him not to leave me and that I could still change. I want to mention most of the promises I've made to Satan/Gods I write down as I have shit memory. I even had a working to fix that planned soon...) but I broke all of them in the heat of the moment. They were things like "don't complain", "no pitty parties"...etc things like that.

Then things were ok for a day or two (as I WAS doing something to keep control of my emotions) then.. I focus on Satan's sigil before bed, and I find out he hasnt forgiven me.

I had a somewhat broken conversation with a couple of Gods (I think?) and I won't go into detail but I could tell these were Satanic beings, as Satan's sigil was right there and I tend to see blue dots when I talk to the Gods, or when theyre around. It turns out he's left me, even though I never wanted to, or felt like I've left him (I still refuse to leave him...) but when I say things like "I've never left him" I hear things like "I didn't ask" or "enough" or "this is embarrassing" (I...agree, it is
not to mention I feel an angry/annoyed pushback when i focus on his sigil.

I promised them a while back that I would never commit suicide because I wanted to repay them for everything they've done for me. The enemy has been trying their hardest to get me to do that AND has been putting some nasty invasive thoughts in my head. But now I don't know what to do..

I know the consequences of suicide. Which is why I won't be doing that. I heard a God say "you shouldn't" and "you'll regret it" when I was contemplating it a while back. And yeah... I agree.
But I'm more worried about my AOPs not doing shit against a more powerful enemy attack.

Not to be dramatic, but Satanism is my everything. How could I live without the truth??? The enemy can take EVERYTHING away from me if I do RTRs, or even meditate maybe.

I was thinking about staying alive just to spite the enemy...but I know myself well enough that I'll end up doing an RTR or 8 and then the enemy would take notice... i don't want the enemy to harm me or any Gentile... I heard something along the lines of "they'll blind you" and "they'll reveal you/are looking for you" which makes me want to panic. Not to mention I've been seeing 6 and 66 EVERYWHERE!

I still refuse to leave Satan... and I still refuse to turn my back on him and the Gods... I won't ever leave him, but I don't think he really sees any value in me anymore.. I have had some SERIOUSLY fucked up thoughts that come into my head about Satan that I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT TO HIM!!!

According to another God (the same God I had the panic over I think), I have to wait until Friday with this uncertainty and pain... I don't know if I should trust this, or if it's the enemy (I suspect so) cause "taking a break from Satanism" is a bit suspicious to me. But the God who told me to do this I felt was the real deal.. but then why would a God tell me "this is a good thing for you" and tell me to wait until Friday and to not do RTRs (they've tried to stop me)....they said something about wisdom and I didn't clearly hear the rest. Is this supposed to be a lesson or is this the enemy? I'm so scared he doesn't accept me anymore... my day has been full of panic and I really fear for my life.

 

[gbc4f6xau6kq3v3tmqkleqt2caxgpuqzbsckviit]

you are speaking to yourself in your own head, and also the enemy.
satan would not call you pathetic, he made us if he really thought we were pathetic then he would have killed us in our earliest times.
your value, or what youre worth to satan is something you decide, if you are doing the rtr schedule everyday then you are doing more than me.
if you are sacrificing things so that you can gain power, to use that power for satan, inconveniencing yourself for our gods, and for us here, EVEN ME!!!
then satan undoubtedly appreciates you, you are getting wrapped up in your own head, just relax and dont worry about things that you hear.
when you are competent in your astral hearing then start listening for real, until then dont mistake your pessimistic conscience for satan himself