Adopting orphans instead of raising animal pets

[SyrArisMarsMartin]

Wouldn't it be more beneficial and human to raise a human orphan, give him your time and love,
instead of animal pets which are supposed to be in nature?

 

[SerenaMousse]

Those poor beasts have already been bred out of their wild traits by monstrous human hands. Least we can do now is give them good homes and lives. A stray cat in a concrete jungle is not a happy cat. Our rotten world is not their native lands. Better to take them in and give them our love than let them suffer problems we created.

 

[Soaring Eagle 666]

Wouldn't it be more beneficial and human to raise a human orphan, give him your time and love,
instead of animal pets which are supposed to be in nature?

It's certainly nice to raise an orphan, but there's nothing wrong with keeping animal pets. Pets can still be in nature if you have a yard or park for them to play in. Also, pets like dogs and cats have been bred to need less outdoor time and still be happy. (Wolves or lions absolutely need acres of open country to be happy.)

There's also farm animals, like sheepdogs, rat catchers, etc, which are pets that actually do useful work too.

Familiars are a special case of animal "pet", and are very helpful in magick and protection.

There's also the fact that raising a human takes much more time and money than a dog or cat. About the same time a dog or cat will pass away, you'd be paying thousands $$$ to send the orphan to college.... :shock:

 

[Head Guardian Sophiles Phylax]

Wouldn't it be more beneficial and human to raise a human orphan, give him your time and love,
instead of animal pets which are supposed to be in nature?

The only reason you or others have to take in either human or animal orphans is that their original families were rendered dysfunctional by the enemy. Both of these orphans take a significant amount of time to properly care for and none of that time would actually resolve the root cause of the problem. More orphans are generated than you can personally care for, as well.

I don't think you were planning on doing that, rather just asking a question, but I think it is important to keep this idea in our perception when we evaluate how best we spend our time.

 

[Sunny]

There is a difference here. The pet is a simple and inferior companion and friend. The child, whether an orphan or yours, requires a lot of time and resources to grow up and be properly educated.

 

[Aquarius]

There is a difference here. The pet is a simple and inferior companion and friend. The child, whether an orphan or yours, requires a lot of time and resources to grow up and be properly educated.

How can pets be inferior if they are literally a different species from us? Just like a lion wouldn't say he is superior to a zebra, it makes no sense to call pets inferior. It's a xtian and muslim mentality to call animals inferior to us.

 

[Sunny]

There is a difference here. The pet is a simple and inferior companion and friend. The child, whether an orphan or yours, requires a lot of time and resources to grow up and be properly educated.

How can pets be inferior if they are literally a different species from us? Just like a lion wouldn't say he is superior to a zebra, it makes no sense to call pets inferior. It's a xtian and muslim mentality to call animals inferior to us.

I absolutely disagree. Not even members of a race or species are equal, there are stronger and weaker, inferior and superior. The same also applies to races, species and so on. And so there are also inferior and superior species. For example the cat is superior to the mouse, the snake is superior to the lizard, the lizard is superior to the fly, etc.

If one individual or group or empire is stronger and more capable than others, it means it is superior.

 

[Sunny]

There is a difference here. The pet is a simple and inferior companion and friend. The child, whether an orphan or yours, requires a lot of time and resources to grow up and be properly educated.

How can pets be inferior if they are literally a different species from us? Just like a lion wouldn't say he is superior to a zebra, it makes no sense to call pets inferior. It's a xtian and muslim mentality to call animals inferior to us.

I think what Sunny meant was in terms of intelligence and how complex their soul is maybe

In everything, body mind and soul. Other life forms cannot compare to humans. By this I obviously do not mean not respecting them or treating them properly. But everyone in the Universe has to be in their own place according to their level.

I think I understand why animals are sacred to the Gods. In fact, animals are manifestations of nature and represent and contain forces and secrets of nature. For example the associations of Ujjavi with the cat, Sitkari with the snake etc.

My grandmother makes me very angry. She has an ignorant misconception about Ujjavi naturally doing the cat (she has two cats, she likes them) and says, cats get on my nerves when they snore worse than your grandfather. What suffocating ignorance.

 

[DarkShadow]

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be adopting any children. I want to be in a permanent same sex relationship. But I can always adopt animals and I would really like to help orphan children in other ways. Adopting them and giving them a family is a very good thing, but it is not possible for every one. We can help them in other ways.

 

[SyrArisMarsMartin]

Wouldn't it be more beneficial and human to raise a human orphan, give him your time and love,
instead of animal pets which are supposed to be in nature?

I say this also because if you look closely in the ads, media, tv, movies etc they always advertise having animal pets and they put so much emphasis on the animal, even placing it higher than the human who takes care of it.
Everything revolving around the animal.

And then you have movies etc. about human orphans, in which they are depicted in a negative light,
making them look like psychos, trouble, difficult to handle/raise, too much money etc.

So my natural instinct is to go against the flow, if you know what i mean.
Better to spend your time on a human orphan and making him a spiritual satanist for example.
Hail Satan forever

 

[Sunny]

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be adopting any children. I want to be in a permanent same sex relationship. But I can always adopt animals and I would really like to help orphan children in other ways. Adopting them and giving them a family is a very good thing, but it is not possible for every one. We can help them in other ways.

Not even all heterosexuals have to have children, unless of course it is very much required and necessary for society for whatever reason.

For these unfortunate cases (orphans) institutions are perfectly fine, one just has to work for a better and more humane standard.

 

[Sunny]

Wouldn't it be more beneficial and human to raise a human orphan, give him your time and love,
instead of animal pets which are supposed to be in nature?

I say this also because if you look closely in the ads, media, tv, movies etc they always advertise having animal pets and they put so much emphasis on the animal, even placing it higher than the human who takes care of it.
Everything revolving around the animal.

And then you have movies etc. about human orphans, in which they are depicted in a negative light,
making them look like psychos, trouble, difficult to handle/raise, too much money etc.

So my natural instinct is to go against the flow, if you know what i mean.
Better to spend your time on a human orphan and making him a spiritual satanist for example.
Hail Satan forever

It is simply a much greater responsibility than a pet.

You are underestimating the time and teaching that children require for a good result.

 

[DarkShadow]

Wouldn't it be more beneficial and human to raise a human orphan, give him your time and love,
instead of animal pets which are supposed to be in nature?

I say this also because if you look closely in the ads, media, tv, movies etc they always advertise having animal pets and they put so much emphasis on the animal, even placing it higher than the human who takes care of it.
Everything revolving around the animal.

And then you have movies etc. about human orphans, in which they are depicted in a negative light,
making them look like psychos, trouble, difficult to handle/raise, too much money etc.

So my natural instinct is to go against the flow, if you know what i mean.
Better to spend your time on a human orphan and making him a spiritual satanist for example.
Hail Satan forever

If you can and you want to then you can adopt both. Just make sure you have the ability to take care of them.

As about advertisements about having animal pets. Most of movies, dramas etc. show hybrid or foreign breed of animals as pets. These act as subliminals to buy or adopt only hybrid animals as pets. People think of hybrid or foreign breeds as high status or modern. This causes neglectment of your local animal breeds.

 

[Enigmatic_Rabbit]

Wouldn't it be more beneficial and human to raise a human orphan, give him your time and love,
instead of animal pets which are supposed to be in nature?

I say this also because if you look closely in the ads, media, tv, movies etc they always advertise having animal pets and they put so much emphasis on the animal, even placing it higher than the human who takes care of it.
Everything revolving around the animal.

And then you have movies etc. about human orphans, in which they are depicted in a negative light,
making them look like psychos, trouble, difficult to handle/raise, too much money etc.

So my natural instinct is to go against the flow, if you know what i mean.
Better to spend your time on a human orphan and making him a spiritual satanist for example.
Hail Satan forever

I'm not going to lie here but... I find your question and explanation Very creepy... Not that you would do it but the question and intentions are creepy. "Raise a human orphan and make them into (bla-bla-bla)". "MAKE THEM INTO-" <--- that's creepy because the intention of raising said person is to "turn them INTO something" and NOT to raise them to be the "best they can be". Zevism is about freedom to choose, after all. Freedom of choice then leads to truths of this world and the ultimate truth is, you cannot control another. Period. Look at what the xians do, they go out and adopt kids from Cambodia or somewhere and teach them how to be xian because "they believe they are doing the right thing". No, they are not, and so would the same apply to Zevism or any Other belief system/life paths. You could say "they would just grow up in a satanic household" which would still be the same as growing up in a xian household. Many Zevism here have came from these house hold xian backgrounds and look what happened, they became Zevism. The fact that Lord Satan came to each and every one of us by our own volition tells you that this Has to happen. Satan comes to us, not the other way around.

But onto your thought of "why are pets pushed? Shouldn't we care more for our human beans?" YES! This is a healthy understanding of the human family unit. Look at what animals do, they surround themselves with the same species. You could even look to monkeys and see how they treat each other. They groom each other. Touch. What do we, fellow human-beans, do in our family units? We get a dog or a cat to cuddle and touch... Do you see something wrong here? Our instinct to touch and groom is now focused on an animal not of the same species. That's kind of fucked up. What humans need, especially family units, is to have time to hug, cuddle, groom, massage and just plain old touch each other. Pet the head of your father or mother, rough house with your siblings, hug your aunts and uncles, give your family massages every once in a while, ask your family member to brush your hair, etc. just do Something that involves physical contact. Our monkey paw (hand) *needs* this touch/stimulation and our bodies need to be touched and handled by our loved ones to make our emotional circuits feel "okay". The lack of physical contact is what makes most people "anxious". The body thinks there's no family dynamic, i.e: grooming, and if there's no grooming you are surrounded by strangers (because a stranger will not touch you and shouldn't touch you) and if you're surrounded by strangers your body is always "on guard" and can never truly "relax" and if your body can never relax well... You get mental illness and spiritual disturbances.

So your instinct was correct, we should have our "need to love" focused on our same species, but the solution you postulated is... inadequate to say the least. How about start with your own family members first? Or what about making a baby yourself? Orphans will always be around and those who can handle it will, but for the majority of us, this is not an option nor desired. I hope I didn't misunderstand your solution and reasoning and if I did, I apologize but it goes without saying that Spiritual Satanism is not a cult, so let's not "recruit" like one.