It seems that the image of Satan on Jos' main website has been changed recently. The picture on the left is the newly changed one, and the picture on the right is the original page.
I feel that the newly changed pictures are a bit weird. The old pictures can show the "handsomeness", "maturity" and "majesty" of Lord Satan, and are more artistic. Have the new version of the pictures been redrawn by AI? To be honest, it doesn’t feel as suitable as the previous pictures.
Of course, this is just my personal opinion. I don’t know what everyone else’s opinions are. Please express your opinions. Thank you all.
About the change of Satan image on Jos main website
Char Aznable1 min to readI think the new one looks much more realistic.
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I think the new one looks much more realistic.
That looks nice!!🔥🐲
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The new one is high definition while the old one is standard definition. We live in 2024 and it's about time JoS adapts high definition like pretty much everyone else.
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The new one is high definition while the old one is standard definition. We live in 2024 and it's about time JoS adapts high definition like pretty much everyone else.
The updated image clearly uses AI. In the new image, the characters on the left and right are deformed. A lot of details are gone. All in all, I don't like the new picture very much. It looks very strange.
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The updated image clearly uses AI. In the new image, the characters on the left and right are deformed. A lot of details are gone. All in all, I don't like the new picture very much. It looks very strange.
Not sure what's weird about the new image. It's actually more faithful to how I've seen in my dreams, etc. The only difference is sometimes I've seen either shorter or long hair, but the rest of the body is identical.
As a reminder: the Gods can appear as young or elderly as they feel like it. It's not our place to dictate their appearances. The only things you need to know is that's he's a fair-skinned, blond and blue-eyed White male.
Also, I believe the new picture better captures the beauty, majesty and maturity of our Father. I cried when I saw the update. Massive appreciation for the time dedicated to this!
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Not sure what's weird about the new image. It's actually more faithful to how I've seen in my dreams, etc. The only difference is sometimes I've seen either shorter or long hair, but the rest of the body is identical.
As a reminder: the Gods can appear as young or elderly as they feel like it. It's not our place to dictate their appearances. The only things you need to know is that's he's a fair-skinned, blond and blue-eyed White male.
Also, I believe the new picture better captures the beauty, majesty and maturity of our Father. I cried when I saw the update. Massive appreciation for the time dedicated to this!
I can understand why some people might not like it, not only because it is different, but because the style is different, etc, something new does need time to adjust to, and there is fair critique to give on the loss of detail in the background of the image.
However, despite some details missing, the focal point, Satan Himself, looks much better, which is most important in my opinion.
His face in the original image has always looked a bit strange, His expression is hard to read and His face just does not look good, there are quite a few things off in it.
Comparing the faces, the new image is much better and looks closer to how Satan's face looks when you see Him in meditation. The gaze in His eyes is also more secure. On the original image the expression looks frustrated and as if He is averting His eyes, which is unfitting.
In the new image, He does not avert His eyes, He looks straight at everything with a calm and assured gaze. It also looks like He is looking below, as if looking towards the Earth from the higher realm, watching us, at least that is what I see when looking at the image.
The use of AI in making images is unfortunately unavoidable, because there are no artists here at the moment who are skilled enough to make improved images for us themselves.
Condemning use of AI just on principle is foolish, as it is a tool that exists now which should be used when appropriate. In cases like us, it has a good place, as we require high definition images that look appropriate, while we do not have any artists who can create them for us at present, which is very unfortunate.
When there are artists who are skilled enough and can create drawings or painting of the Gods with the right level of quality that justifies Them as well as the appropriate looks, we can of course update the images once again with human creations and credit the artists if they want to be credited.
In fact, we'd definitely rather do that if we could, unfortunately we do not have that option at the moment..
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I can understand why some people might not like it, not only because it is different, but because the style is different, etc, something new does need time to adjust to, and there is fair critique to give on the loss of detail in the background of the image.
However, despite some details missing, the focal point, Satan Himself, looks much better, which is most important in my opinion.
His face in the original image has always looked a bit strange, His expression is hard to read and His face just does not look good, there are quite a few things off in it.
Comparing the faces, the new image is much better and looks closer to how Satan's face looks when you see Him in meditation. The gaze in His eyes is also more secure. On the original image the expression looks frustrated and as if He is averting His eyes, which is unfitting.
In the new image, He does not avert His eyes, He looks straight at everything with a calm and assured gaze. It also looks like He is looking below, as if looking towards the Earth from the higher realm, watching us, at least that is what I see when looking at the image.
The use of AI in making images is unfortunately unavoidable, because there are no artists here at the moment who are skilled enough to make improved images for us themselves.
Condemning use of AI just on principle is foolish, as it is a tool that exists now which should be used when appropriate. In cases like us, it has a good place, as we require high definition images that look appropriate, while we do not have any artists who can create them for us at present, which is very unfortunate.
When there are artists who are skilled enough and can create drawings or painting of the Gods with the right level of quality that justifies Them as well as the appropriate looks, we can of course update the images once again with human creations and credit the artists if they want to be credited.
In fact, we'd definitely rather do that if we could, unfortunately we do not have that option at the moment..
I can understand why some people might not like it, not only because it is different, but because the style is different, etc, something new does need time to adjust to, and there is fair critique to give on the loss of detail in the background of the image.
However, despite some details missing, the focal point, Satan Himself, looks much better, which is most important in my opinion.
His face in the original image has always looked a bit strange, His expression is hard to read and His face just does not look good, there are quite a few things off in it.
While my painting skills are not that far developed yet (at least in comparison with what can be accomplished with use of AI), I wonder if some of the graphics on the site also will be needed in higher resolution or even scalable vector graphics?
I ask, because I wanted to redraw/vectorize the header image of the Satanic Meditation page anyways, because I think it looks cool. 🙂
I could vectorize/redraw some other graphics as well if needed (Twin Serpent Meditation, Satanic Symbols..etc)
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I can understand why some people might not like it, not only because it is different, but because the style is different, etc, something new does need time to adjust to, and there is fair critique to give on the loss of detail in the background of the image.
However, despite some details missing, the focal point, Satan Himself, looks much better, which is most important in my opinion.
His face in the original image has always looked a bit strange, His expression is hard to read and His face just does not look good, there are quite a few things off in it.
While my painting skills are not that far developed yet (at least in comparison with what can be accomplished with use of AI), I wonder if some of the graphics on the site also will be needed in higher resolution or even scalable vector graphics?
I ask, because I wanted to redraw/vectorize the header image of the Satanic Meditation page anyways, because I think it looks cool. 🙂
I could vectorize/redraw some other graphics as well if needed (Twin Serpent Meditation, Satanic Symbols..etc)
While my painting skills are not that far developed yet (at least in comparison with what can be accomplished with use of AI), I wonder if some of the graphics on the site also will be needed in higher resolution or even scalable vector graphics?
I ask, because I wanted to redraw/vectorize the header image of the Satanic Meditation page anyways, because I think it looks cool. 🙂
I could vectorize/redraw some other graphics as well if needed (Twin Serpent Meditation, Satanic Symbols..etc)
This is needed yes, in fact if you could help with this I think HP Zevios and JG ApolloAbove would be pleased.
They'll see my reply here, but I'll let them know. You should make a sample image of your work, and can make a thread, or send it by email, etc.
Some of the graphics have been updated already, but due to the lack of artists updating everything is slow going.
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While my painting skills are not that far developed yet (at least in comparison with what can be accomplished with use of AI), I wonder if some of the graphics on the site also will be needed in higher resolution or even scalable vector graphics?
I ask, because I wanted to redraw/vectorize the header image of the Satanic Meditation page anyways, because I think it looks cool. 🙂
I could vectorize/redraw some other graphics as well if needed (Twin Serpent Meditation, Satanic Symbols..etc)
This is needed yes, in fact if you could help with this I think HP Zevios and JG ApolloAbove would be pleased.
They'll see my reply here, but I'll let them know. You should make a sample image of your work, and can make a thread, or send it by email, etc.
Some of the graphics have been updated already, but due to the lack of artists updating everything is slow going.
Gained more pixels but lost considerable amount of detail and introduced artifacts. All in all…it’s alright, I guess.
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Gained more pixels but lost considerable amount of detail and introduced artifacts. All in all…it’s alright, I guess.
The content update all-together is very good, but I will never adore an AI picture, I don't care. It's not something to use for holy art.
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The content update all-together is very good, but I will never adore an AI picture, I don't care. It's not something to use for holy art.
I like the new picture of Father Zeus, he looks more real looking than the older picture! Great work 😍
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I like the new picture of Father Zeus, he looks more real looking than the older picture! Great work 😍
This is needed yes, in fact if you could help with this I think HP Zevios and JG ApolloAbove would be pleased.
They'll see my reply here, but I'll let them know. You should make a sample image of your work, and can make a thread, or send it by email, etc.
Some of the graphics have been updated already, but due to the lack of artists updating everything is slow going.
Alright, I am glad if I can help. I'll start as soon as I have some time on my hands 😄
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This is needed yes, in fact if you could help with this I think HP Zevios and JG ApolloAbove would be pleased.
They'll see my reply here, but I'll let them know. You should make a sample image of your work, and can make a thread, or send it by email, etc.
Some of the graphics have been updated already, but due to the lack of artists updating everything is slow going.
Alright, I am glad if I can help. I'll start as soon as I have some time on my hands 😄
The update is more realistic. If one looks closer, it feels like the upper lip and some knuckles on the artwork needs to be fixed. I will be doing some work on it. The update is actually fantastic.
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The update is more realistic. If one looks closer, it feels like the upper lip and some knuckles on the artwork needs to be fixed. I will be doing some work on it. The update is actually fantastic.
The content update all-together is very good, but I will never adore an AI picture, I don't care. It's not something to use for holy art.
Alright then, make a portrait like it's for a king, and someone should develop the abilities for this. That is the realistic case of the topic. If most paintings look like sketches of a lesser level, this is the limitation; I did not create the limitation, it is something that exists because of lack of patience from Artists to reach a level to be able to do this. Many are able, but resolve is needed to actually attain this. That is not something I decide.
One can build a farm; maybe they have the potential to be a good farmer. But who will actually build the farm and feed the people who need the food today? We cannot feed people via the idea of "what could've been".
I keep hearing from artists they will do this or that, and eventually nothing is made, or portraits which are not up to the deserved level for Satan. I love all art and it all touches me, but portraits for Satan that would be listed, will have to be actual paintings of a very high level, as the representations have to be strong and proper.
But please spend these 1, 2, 3 or 10 years necessary to do this. Don't just create standards - update us also along the way.
It expressed frustration and rejection at the same time, and was intended to be displayed this way by the artist. I believe that there was a reason for it (whether he was a Zevist himself or not).
The situation is that this previous picture, had to do with these things that don't really exist. There was no real "rejection from heaven" against Satan - it's based on the bitterness of that narrative and him looking as he was rejected, while it is not the case.
They represent an enemy claimed state; rejection, anger and all these things that no longer exist as Satan does have acceptance and is recognized. We cannot be defined by the paradigms of the enemy.
Other than that, there will be a section in the new page, that will contain all these original artistic depictions, with their timelines, as made by human beings.
I like the new picture of Father Zeus, he looks more real looking than the older picture! Great work 😍
Basically I spent more than a whole day to fix this, so it does not violate the first picture, is very realistic of how Satan appears (it's very, very close) and it's also not based on enemy paradigm. It looks great.
Other than this, I am waiting for something of this level of artistic tier, and would be more than happy to include it, even an oil painting or something similar, in a dedicated art section (this picture and many other historical depictions will be included in a dedicated page for art by excellent artists, by the way):
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The content update all-together is very good, but I will never adore an AI picture, I don't care. It's not something to use for holy art.
Alright then, make a portrait like it's for a king, and someone should develop the abilities for this. That is the realistic case of the topic. If most paintings look like sketches of a lesser level, this is the limitation; I did not create the limitation, it is something that exists because of lack of patience from Artists to reach a level to be able to do this. Many are able, but resolve is needed to actually attain this. That is not something I decide.
One can build a farm; maybe they have the potential to be a good farmer. But who will actually build the farm and feed the people who need the food today? We cannot feed people via the idea of "what could've been".
I keep hearing from artists they will do this or that, and eventually nothing is made, or portraits which are not up to the deserved level for Satan. I love all art and it all touches me, but portraits for Satan that would be listed, will have to be actual paintings of a very high level, as the representations have to be strong and proper.
But please spend these 1, 2, 3 or 10 years necessary to do this. Don't just create standards - update us also along the way.
It expressed frustration and rejection at the same time, and was intended to be displayed this way by the artist. I believe that there was a reason for it (whether he was a Zevist himself or not).
The situation is that this previous picture, had to do with these things that don't really exist. There was no real "rejection from heaven" against Satan - it's based on the bitterness of that narrative and him looking as he was rejected, while it is not the case.
They represent an enemy claimed state; rejection, anger and all these things that no longer exist as Satan does have acceptance and is recognized. We cannot be defined by the paradigms of the enemy.
Other than that, there will be a section in the new page, that will contain all these original artistic depictions, with their timelines, as made by human beings.
I like the new picture of Father Zeus, he looks more real looking than the older picture! Great work 😍
Basically I spent more than a whole day to fix this, so it does not violate the first picture, is very realistic of how Satan appears (it's very, very close) and it's also not based on enemy paradigm. It looks great.
Other than this, I am waiting for something of this level of artistic tier, and would be more than happy to include it, even an oil painting or something similar, in a dedicated art section (this picture and many other historical depictions will be included in a dedicated page for art by excellent artists, by the way):
I didnt like how in the old picture Satan looked kinda...angry? this new one feels more fitting, the background artifcating matters very little IMO its a picture of Satan the background is simply a backdrop
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I didnt like how in the old picture Satan looked kinda...angry? this new one feels more fitting, the background artifcating matters very little IMO its a picture of Satan the background is simply a backdrop
Alright then, make a portrait like it's for a king, and someone should develop the abilities for this. That is the realistic case of the topic. If most paintings look like sketches of a lesser level, this is the limitation; I did not create the limitation, it is something that exists because of lack of patience from Artists to reach a level to be able to do this. Many are able, but resolve is needed to actually attain this. That is not something I decide.
One can build a farm; maybe they have the potential to be a good farmer. But who will actually build the farm and feed the people who need the food today? We cannot feed people via the idea of "what could've been".
I keep hearing from artists they will do this or that, and eventually nothing is made, or portraits which are not up to the deserved level for Satan. I love all art and it all touches me, but portraits for Satan that would be listed, will have to be actual paintings of a very high level, as the representations have to be strong and proper.
For me, I love and adore every essence of Satan`s images (depicted by HPS Pythia). Never ever will any AI in the world have authority over me to question it, even if it would declare itself as new god in the coming future.
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Alright then, make a portrait like it's for a king, and someone should develop the abilities for this. That is the realistic case of the topic. If most paintings look like sketches of a lesser level, this is the limitation; I did not create the limitation, it is something that exists because of lack of patience from Artists to reach a level to be able to do this. Many are able, but resolve is needed to actually attain this. That is not something I decide.
One can build a farm; maybe they have the potential to be a good farmer. But who will actually build the farm and feed the people who need the food today? We cannot feed people via the idea of "what could've been".
I keep hearing from artists they will do this or that, and eventually nothing is made, or portraits which are not up to the deserved level for Satan. I love all art and it all touches me, but portraits for Satan that would be listed, will have to be actual paintings of a very high level, as the representations have to be strong and proper.
For me, I love and adore every essence of Satan`s images (depicted by HPS Pythia). Never ever will any AI in the world have authority over me to question it, even if it would declare itself as new god in the coming future.
Alright then, make a portrait like it's for a king, and someone should develop the abilities for this. That is the realistic case of the topic. If most paintings look like sketches of a lesser level, this is the limitation; I did not create the limitation, it is something that exists because of lack of patience from Artists to reach a level to be able to do this. Many are able, but resolve is needed to actually attain this. That is not something I decide.
One can build a farm; maybe they have the potential to be a good farmer. But who will actually build the farm and feed the people who need the food today? We cannot feed people via the idea of "what could've been".
I keep hearing from artists they will do this or that, and eventually nothing is made, or portraits which are not up to the deserved level for Satan. I love all art and it all touches me, but portraits for Satan that would be listed, will have to be actual paintings of a very high level, as the representations have to be strong and proper.
This picture is very nice too, great artistic work 😍
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Alright then, make a portrait like it's for a king, and someone should develop the abilities for this. That is the realistic case of the topic. If most paintings look like sketches of a lesser level, this is the limitation; I did not create the limitation, it is something that exists because of lack of patience from Artists to reach a level to be able to do this. Many are able, but resolve is needed to actually attain this. That is not something I decide.
One can build a farm; maybe they have the potential to be a good farmer. But who will actually build the farm and feed the people who need the food today? We cannot feed people via the idea of "what could've been".
I keep hearing from artists they will do this or that, and eventually nothing is made, or portraits which are not up to the deserved level for Satan. I love all art and it all touches me, but portraits for Satan that would be listed, will have to be actual paintings of a very high level, as the representations have to be strong and proper.
This picture is very nice too, great artistic work 😍
I refuse to believe that there aren't people among us here who posses ability to create artistic masterpieces.
And I have already seen many examples in JoS Art section that show a lot of promise.
So, everyone who has talent for any kind of art, painting, music, sculpting...work on your abilities. I am absolutely certain you will thank yourself when you realize how far you've came.
Do not give up.
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"You will be here as long as I am here and that is forever."
I refuse to believe that there aren't people among us here who posses ability to create artistic masterpieces.
And I have already seen many examples in JoS Art section that show a lot of promise.
So, everyone who has talent for any kind of art, painting, music, sculpting...work on your abilities. I am absolutely certain you will thank yourself when you realize how far you've came.
Do not give up.
I prefer the new image. In the previous one, Father Zeus has this kind of weird expression that I see as disgust/upset that doesn't fit Him.
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I prefer the new image. In the previous one, Father Zeus has this kind of weird expression that I see as disgust/upset that doesn't fit Him.